Research holds promise for herpes vaccine

A study by a Montana State University researcher suggests a new avenue for developing a vaccine against genital herpes and other diseases caused by herpes simplex viruses. In a study published earlier this year in the Virology Journal, MSU virologist William Halford showed that mice vaccinated with a live, genetically-modified herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) showed no signs of disease 30 days after being exposed to a particularly lethal “wild-type” strain of the virus.A study by a Montana State University researcher suggests a new avenue for developing a vaccine against genital herpes and other diseases caused by herpes simplex viruses.

In a study published earlier this year in the Virology Journal, MSU virologist William Halford showed that mice vaccinated with a live, genetically-modified herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) showed no signs of disease 30 days after being exposed to a particularly lethal “wild-type” strain of the virus.

In contrast, a second group of mice that received a more conventional vaccine died within six days of being exposed to the same “wild-type” strain.

“We have a clear roadmap for producing an effective live vaccine against genital herpes,” said Halford, who works in MSU’s Department of Veterinary Molecular Biology. “Although my studies were performed with HSV-1, the implications for HSV-2-induced genital herpes are clear. Overall the two viruses are about 99 percent genetically identical.”

An estimated 55 million Americans carry herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2), which causes genital herpes. Infection is life-long. Approximately 5 percent of those with genital herpes – 2 million to 3 million Americans – suffer outbreaks one to four times annually. A vaccine offering life-long protection does not exist.

The key to Halford’s research was understanding how the herpes simplex virus overcame the body’s natural defenses.

A cell infected with the herpes simplex virus sends a warning to neighboring cells. This warning — an interferon response — causes neighboring cells to enter “an anti-viral state” akin to putting on a suit of armor, Halford said.

However, herpes produces a protein, ICP0, that tricks every infected cell into destroying its own armor. Once the cell’s armor is gone, the virus can propagate itself and spread to other cells, which are in turn tricked into lowering their defenses.

In his research, Halford created a vaccine where the genetic instructions that make ICP0 were disrupted. Without instructions on how to do its clever ICP0 trick, the virus can still establish an infection in animals, but the spread of the virus is stopped long before disease can occur.

“In short, we can disarm the virus such that it is absolutely unable to cause disease, but is still remarkably potent as a vaccine,” Halford said.

In a human vaccine, the genetic instructions for ICP0 would actually be removed, creating an “attenuated,” or weakened virus. The rest of the herpes simplex virus’ genetic code would remain intact. Measles, mumps, rubella, polio and yellow fever vaccines are all made from attenuated viruses.

Research in recent decades has focused on subunit vaccines, which are made from one piece of a virus (a protein subunit). Subunit vaccines are safer than attenuated virus vaccines because the subunit cannot replicate or cause disease. However, subunit vaccines have proven ineffective in protecting people against persistent infections like genital herpes and AIDS, Halford said.

“From a theoretical standpoint, subunit vaccines are poor mimics of a natural virus infection,” Halford said. “There’s not enough there for our immune systems to build a protective response against the actual virus.”

Halford, 38, is aware that his approach is controversial.

“This is where I’m young enough that I don’t know how long it can take to swing popular opinion among scientists and clinicians,” he said. “I would hope that in five to six years the scientific community would be willing to seriously consider these proposals.”

Halford hopes to find a commercial partner or secure government funding to advance his research toward a human vaccine.

“I’d like to take this concept from the chalkboard to the clinics,” he said.

From Montana State University

 

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251 Responses to “Research holds promise for herpes vaccine”

  1. jim #

    i got the herpes virus from my then fiance . . . she when told of this said she didn’t have symptoms. I know that she gave me it as i had been faithful the whole time we were together and did not have sex for two years after. It really hurt that she didn’t have it too and that my life was now ruined whereas she was getting married, happy as can be . . . This has been me now for ten years; i’m 27 and single. every time i meet someone nice it all ends badly as i try to explain to them the ins and outs of how we’d have to be careful, get tested etc . . . it’s a fucking pain in the ass. I could have a wonderful life if only i could meet someone who understands. so depressed please to all those research pharm guys out there hurry up with the cure. or could we at least start opening std singles bars ?
    lol

    June 3, 2010 at 3:35 am Reply
    • jenny brown #

      I founded out three weeks ago I have hsv 2 which I got from my boyfriend of five years I can’t sleep or eat I feel very depressed . I feelso ruined.

      June 9, 2010 at 8:27 am Reply
    • Gina #

      Yeah…I was pissed when I found out I got herpes 8 yrs ago…No actually I was furious. I keep silent about it, b/c if my boyfriend of 3 1/2 yrs found out I had it…he would leave me in a heartbeat…..I know there is a cure out there somewhere…but Dr.’s and gov. stay rich by us having to buy medicine and all……..I hope to never ever have an outbreak again….I’d have to move out of my town if my bf found out.

      June 22, 2010 at 12:17 pm Reply
      • orlando cruz jr #

        listen and everyone else listen there is a cure a cure for herpes aids/hiv alzimers any disease and virus u culd think of it called oxygenation theray i read about it and it makes alot of sense if u dnt believe me look it up on google oxygenation therapy treatment, its 100 percnt real but the thing is the fda and farmacies and medicle facilitys wont release it y becuzz it wuld ruin there trillion dollar profit tht the make by sellin us posions and medications with side effects. it f’d up how the usa is they want money and thts all they think of. its messed up but in order for this cure to b released we need to tell every one people have to know this becuzz this is real i promise it is just look it up its been around for 70yrs and the government is hiding it on purpose let people noe about this plz im beggin u this is for the future of humanity

        October 8, 2010 at 8:48 pm Reply
  2. You’re honestly trying to tell us that 70 million of the 300 million people in the US are afflicted with STDs?

    June 1, 2010 at 5:13 am Reply
  3. Another Statistic #

    Just found out I’ve got HSV-2. Easily worst day of my life. Totally devastated, furious as hell with my girlfriend, angry at the world. Why me you know? Its the only thing I think about when I’m awake. Wish I could sleep until there’s a cure. Too embarrassed to tell anybody. Researching everything. Don’t think I’ll ever be as happy as I would have been otherwise. Basically depressed, lonely, and angry. When will this go away? How long will I resent my girlfriend? Should I believe that she didn’t know? Did she cheat on me? Who else has this? I really can’t believe this is happening. I would do anything to go back and time. I would do anything to cure this

    May 31, 2010 at 9:47 pm Reply
    • Disgusted #

      Are you still asking yourself “why me?” Are you still with your girlfriend? If you don’t trust her, why are you with her? Do you still believe she didn’t know? It sounds like you are a very selfish, unloving person. One who is always ready to blame someone, and not think about the other person involved. You should learn to educate yourself and try to appreciate the good things in your life. People like you make me sick!

      November 27, 2010 at 7:48 pm Reply
  4. Anonymous #

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    December 1, 2009 at 7:17 pm Reply
  5. Anonymous #

    you are assuming those two statistics are mutually exclusive. They aren’t. About 10% of people who have HSV1 also have HSV2. Not because they were irresponsible, or didn’t care, or because one “mutated into the other” (impossible), but because these things happen. They might be similar, but they are two different viruses. and we can all have more than one at a time.

    Most people would be devastated to know if they’ve ever had a wart on their finger and later tested for HPV (genital warts) it would come back positive. instantly making them think they have warts down there. Get real.

    August 8, 2009 at 10:22 pm Reply
  6. Anonymous #

    Just on the HIV comment… I know someone that is a Harvard grad that did research for a couple years no not on HIV. I asked her about it and she said because the virus mutates all the time, it will be hard to find a cure. Think of it as the flu. We have all these vaccinations but people still get it when they take the vaccination. The flu vaccination is just an educated guess as to what flu will come out that year. I have personally had the flu after getting the vaccination. Herpes should be easyer to cure though, it may be dormant, but it does not mutate like HIV. Hope I would clear that up for you. Oh and a little comment on statistics lol. I was worried about herpes and all, think of it this way… 100% of people have herpes!!! So its 60%-80% have HSV-1… 20% have HSV-2. That is 80%-100%… Chicken pox, shingles/ zoster gets the rest of us lol. Its everywhere, everyone has it…

    May 21, 2009 at 4:21 am Reply
    • orlando cruz jr #

      i truly agree wit u brah but there is alrdy a cure like i said oxygenation theray it works thousands of people who where hiv/aids even in deaths seat where cured look it up its real but USA wont release it cuzz there trillion dollar profit wuld b affected they only care bout the money but wat we all need to do is tell everyone bout this, its for our future humanaties sake this is 100 percent real look it up do some research on oxygenation theray cures. member hiv/aids herpes etc 98percent viruses and diseases cnt survive outta the body long cuzz to much oxygen think bout it if we inject enough oxygen in our bodies from the ozone it wuld kill the viruses i mean it makes sense but if u wanna no more plz ALL OF U REASEARCH OXYGENATION THERAPY ITS REAL I PROMISE BUT IT WAS BANNED FOR A RESON CUZZ THE FDA AND GOVERNMENTS AND THE CONGREES ALONE ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFIT ITS F’D UP BUT ITS TIME I START LETTING PEOPLE NOE THIS IS REAL PLEASE LOOK IT UPAND READ ABOUT IT ITS SO WORTH IT

      October 8, 2010 at 8:57 pm Reply
  7. Anonymous #

    It is far more profitable for pharmaceutical companies to “treat” a disease than to “cure” it. As long as the disease doesn’t kill you they will never attempt to cure it. Valtrex is a cash cow. A cure would eliminate a customer and thus no repeat business. Unfortunately, they only care about the bottom line. Heck, even HIV could probably be cured by this method but since it doesn’t kill quickly they make more off of treatments than a cure. I don’t think anything has been “cured” in a long time. Pharmaceutical companies just aren’t in that business.

    May 1, 2009 at 10:44 am Reply
    • orlando cruz jr #

      I AGREE ABOUT THE PROFIT N YES THERE IS A CURE OXYGEN THERAPY ITS REAL BUT WAS AND IS STILL BEING IGNORED TODAY ITS NOT HARMFULL LIKE THE PRODUCTS THEY SELL TO US AND POSION US WITH ITS PURE OXYGEN AND VIRUSES AND DISEASES CNT SURVIVE OUT THE BODY SO THIS MAKES SENSE Y THEY WULD BANN IT ALRDY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TESTED ON AND IT WORKS PEOPLE WHERE CURED FROM AIDS/HIV AND HERPES AND ALL OTHER ETC THIS SHIT IS REAL AND IT GETS ME MAD THT THEY DNT WANNA HELP US AND RELEASE THIS CURE THEY DNT CARE BOUT HUMANATY THEY CARE BOUT MONEY LIKE U SAY BASICALLY ITS THE USA’S FAULT FOR ALL THIS HATE SUICIDAL DEATHS STRESS AND Y PEOPLE HATE EACHOTHER CUZZ THEY WANT MONEY THTS IT WE NEED TO DO SUMTHIN U GUYS ASAP PUT THE WORD OUT THERE THER IS A CURE OXYGENATION THERAPY LOOK IT UP ON GOOGLE I PROMISE IT WONT DISSAPPOINT U

      October 8, 2010 at 9:02 pm Reply
  8. Anonymous #

    “There are tens of millions that would go for this vaccine, how can he NOT have companies beating down his door?

    Every afflicted single person would be buying this vaccine for their SO in a heartbeat.”

    yes, but there is a limitless supply of money for companies that are selling treatments to the infection, as people must keep buying these over and over. Once a vaccine is made, the pot of money dries up. Unfortunate, but vaccines are not good investments for businesses.

    March 19, 2008 at 12:32 pm Reply
  9. Anonymous #

    70 million are afflicted with STDs in the U.S. alone and an estimated 200-400 million worldwide.

    April 1, 2007 at 10:13 pm Reply
  10. Anonymous #

    There are tens of millions that would go for this vaccine, how can he NOT have companies beating down his door?

    Every afflicted single person would be buying this vaccine for their SO in a heartbeat.

    October 13, 2006 at 11:20 pm Reply
  11. hillbilly #

    how come it is taking so long to find a vaccine for herpes? How come you cant use any type of chemotherapy to destroy it ? or when will there be a vaccine ?

    June 28, 2007 at 11:40 am Reply
  12. Anonymous #

    There is no financial benefit to curing disease. There are drugs that prevent outbreaks and people are dependent on these drugs. Valtrex will have millions of life long customers. If there were a cure wouldn’t drug companies loose billions of dollars?

    October 31, 2007 at 6:52 pm Reply
  13. Anonymous #

    ALL STD DIASES MUST BE AWARE AGE ONWARDS 13. THRE MUST BE WORLD WIDE ADD OF THIS DISES AND OTHER STD LIKE AIDS ADD. IT MUST BE INVOLVED IN EDUCATION LESSION FROM TEENEGERS LESSON. MUCH OF PEOPLE DONT KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME DIASES/VIRAL INFECTION WHICH CAN TRANSFER BY KISSES OR SEXUAL RELATION WITH CONDOM ALSO….PREVENTION OF THIS CAN AVOIDE ITS EXPAND…THRERE MUST BE MORE RESEARCH TO MAKE HSV-2 VACCINE. for interaction email :-

    November 10, 2007 at 3:11 pm Reply
  14. Anonymous0 #

    I WILL PAY ANYTHING FOR A HERPES VACCINE.

    December 20, 2007 at 1:23 am Reply
  15. Anonymous #

    “no financial benefit”
    - frankly you have no idea what you are talking about. why would one scientist not want to create a vaccine that people want (see below) just because there is a large prevention medication market? they are two different financial interests and the former scientist has everything to gain from creating a vaccine.

    “VACCINE.”
    - i agree.

    January 30, 2008 at 8:19 pm Reply
  16. Anonymous #

    You’re honestly trying to tell us that 70 million of the 300 million people in the US are afflicted with STDs? That’s like 1 in every 4 people. A little fucking ridiculous even for something you just made up.

    February 3, 2008 at 12:22 pm Reply
  17. Anonymous #

    Please let me know the dateline of vaccine. My mail address is ayzobayer@yahoo.com

    February 12, 2008 at 5:06 am Reply
  18. Anonymous #

    The number might be closer to 2 000 000 or so.

    http://www.anonsolutions.com

    February 13, 2008 at 10:39 am Reply
  19. Anonymous #

    Don’t upset by herpes. 1/3 of USA living with herpes. And most of herpes people can manage it.

    February 21, 2008 at 4:27 am Reply
  20. Anonymous #

    Although herpes is a wide spread disease, your assertion of 1/3 of the population is incorrect.

    February 25, 2008 at 1:40 pm Reply
  21. Anonymous #

    Finding a cure…or even just a vaccine would greatly improve the self-confidence and worth of the nation and the world!!
    Can we get one now, please?!

    March 5, 2008 at 11:25 am Reply
  22. Anonymous #

    The stats are accurate. Look them up.

    March 4, 2008 at 7:47 am Reply
  23. Anonymous #

    I didn’t realize it was so common in the US.

    March 4, 2008 at 2:28 am Reply
  24. Anonymous #

    Why is the statistic so hard to believe? Do you know how many different types of STD’s there are out there? HSV alone is estimated to infect 1 out of 5. Then there is HPV which is estimated at 1 out of 4. If we look at the stats for the rest of the most common STDs, I think it would be hard to believe how the overall rate of STD infection is not HIGHER than 25%.

    Sex has been so glamourized but STD’s have been so demonized (and in the case of AIDS, rightfully demonized) that it is hard to imagine something as beautiful as sex can COMMONLY breed something as ugly as an STD.

    April 9, 2008 at 11:58 pm Reply
  25. Anonymous #

    I was recently diagnosed with herpes and was not aware of how common it really is. I was told by a health care professional that stats show that 1 in every 4 are infected with some form of the virus, whether orally or genitally, and are not even aware that that have it, and are spreading it to others. I think more money should go toward educating people on the facts of this virus, and get rid of the “only dirty/slutty people get STD’s”. I am 22 yeras old and have only been active with two people my entire life, and I got it. The stigma has to go!

    The vaccine, for me is too late, but not too late for someone I may fall in love with later down the line. Are the drug companies going to want all this to happen? Probably not, but the millions infected with it already will still have to buy the drugs, so it will be years before they feel an actual hit from it.

    April 16, 2008 at 5:19 am Reply
  26. Anonymous #

    you’re an idiot

    May 23, 2008 at 8:37 pm Reply
  27. Anonymous #

    …but in the case of herpes, it’s because most people who have it don’t know they have it: they’re what are known as asymptomatic carriers. Only a certain percentage of those with herpes would classify themselves as “having an STD” for the simple fact that they don’t realise this is the case. But, yes, somewhere between 20% and 25% of adults in the US are believed to be carrying the HSV-2 virus.

    June 29, 2008 at 12:25 am Reply
  28. Anonymous #

    What ways have you found to further prevent an outbreak? Please tell me

    January 22, 2009 at 7:09 pm Reply
  29. Anonymous #

    I would also pay what ever it would cost to get rid of the virus for good. They don’t make any money off me other wise, because I have found ways of manage it and it keeps me from having any outbreaks. So why wouldn’t they want to come up with a cure to make money, when they aren’t making it anyway. Because people educate themselfs on how to keep it under control. So lets come out with a cure and make some money!

    January 14, 2009 at 5:02 am Reply
  30. Anonymous #

    I was diagnosed a year ago. Very painful thing to deal with. 1 partner for the last 7 years. I did not like the idea of taking drugs for the rest of my life so I did some research. In the book “Women’s Bodies Women’s Wisdom by Christiane Northrup, she suggested vitamin C and Odorless garlic capsules and other herbal remedies. I only used the prescription for a 2 months then switched to using the Vitamin C and Garlic. On page 280 of her book she recommends that whenever you feel the slightest twinge or tingling sensation that indicates an outbreak is about to start, take 12 capsules of the garlic then take 3-4 more capusules every 3 or 4 hours for about 3 days. She said that in most cases this prevents an outbreak. I have been doing this for the last year and have found it to be very effective. Hope this information helps.

    March 14, 2009 at 3:15 pm Reply
  31. Anonymous #

    Have we heard anymore about the the consideration of this vaccine? It’s very interesting. Sadly, there IS more money in the treating of a disease, not the cure.

    March 23, 2008 at 12:25 pm Reply
  32. Anonymous #

    The the people who think companies don’t want a vaccine to protect Valtrex profits:

    1) Only glaxo-wellcome reaps profits for Valtrex, why wouldn’t competing companies want to make a vaccine?

    2) Glaxo is currently spending hundreds of millions testing a herpes vaccine, simplirix, which would eat into their Valtrex profits.

    3) Valtrex’s patent expires in 2009, so your whole theory is based on a false premise.

    March 27, 2008 at 7:06 am Reply
  33. Anonymous #

    I’m surprised that there aren’t yet any pharmaceutical companies (or NIH?) willing to fund further research into an Herpes vaccine. A lot of people would pay good money for this vaccine: there’s definitely a commercial market for it!

    The Herpes virus is incredibly widely spread throughout most industrialised nations: 30% is commonly agreed to be the infection rate. Seems high, but then, everyone’s having sex, so it’s really not surprising, especially as condoms don’t prevent Herpes infections. We just have to face the reality that 1 in 3 people have or have had an STI. Or stop having sex – like that’s gonna happen!

    Herpes is more than just unnattractive and uncomfortable. It can cause serious problems in unborn babies, and has been linked to pre-eclampsia (which can kill infant and mother both) and to cervical cancer.

    March 27, 2008 at 7:30 pm Reply
  34. Anonymous #

    Oh wait…..they HAVE funded it.

    See article on final trials of a Herpes vaccine on this site!

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/2187

    March 27, 2008 at 7:33 pm Reply
  35. Anonymous #

    I believe many people are unaware of herpes. People should be informed about how serious it is. One out of five have it. I believe that if more ads were posted in the newspapers, etc. people (teens, men, women)will be informed of this life long STD.

    What makes this worst is the fact that when one goes to the hospital, and/or clinic, health care providers don’t want to test people for herpes. Why not?

    In terms of the vaccine, I agree that those four out of five that dont have it, should be able to take it against this life long STD.

    May 16, 2008 at 7:01 am Reply
  36. Anonymous #

    Wanted to share a video I made about potential cures and vaccines against the herpes simplex virus.

    Hope you like it!

    /Daniel

    May 17, 2008 at 4:51 am Reply
  37. Anonymous #

    In regard to Valtrex, the patent runs out in 2009!! Thus we move toward the production of the vaccine. Once the patent runs out they do not make the profit on the medication thus they are motivated to move toward a new patent and vaccine. This vaccine should have been funded years ago. Thank God the patent on Valtrex is running out!!

    Has anyone heard an update on funding for the Montana State University vaccine? This is old news (2006 at least) and should have received some funding by now.

    June 3, 2008 at 2:14 pm Reply
  38. Anonymous #

    people are not knocking down doors because the companies know that most of these research vaccines have severe side effects (i.e death)

    August 4, 2008 at 12:13 pm Reply
  39. Anonymous #

    Thank you very much for that… i am 23 and I have recently been diagnosed and I am in the same boat you are with minimal partners. I hope they find the vaccination soon.

    August 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm Reply
  40. Anonymous #

    Maybe I lack some knowledge as to why this is not the growing trend. But in any case I would like to give my opinion on the matter. Women who have the STD herpes pass the immunity to the babies. The babies then have immunity to the virus. (Cant get herpes) However the babies lose their immunity their mother gave them when they begin creating their own. If possible it would be wise to look more in dept of the infant antibodies for the virus. Maybe subtracting a few they will already lose and preforming test with subjects can provide relief. Nowadays they even have immunity transplants. What the body creates natural please pass along to the next and stop playing guessing games.

    August 28, 2008 at 2:39 pm Reply
  41. Anonymous #

    The Cure – a video about potential cures and vaccines against the herpes simplex virus:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71FWd42iKYw

    December 7, 2008 at 1:35 pm Reply
  42. Anonymous #

    A simple google search thwarts your statments.

    http://www.herpes.com/pregnancy.shtml

    Wish it were true though.

    September 11, 2008 at 10:08 pm Reply
  43. Anonymous #

    People we don’t even know we have it, until somehow you decide to go and check that itchy bumb. It really does not show immediately, and the infected person can give it to anybody they have a contact with, because it is a skin-to-skin contact – genetal area, but still skin-to-skin contact! Please be absolutely aware of what your body tells you! People’s lives are ruined because of this, and I do NOT mean to scare you, but IT IS REALITY! Please go and get tested, before you have a new sexual partner, for any STD, viral and otherwise infectious transmited diseases!!! I’m sure a lot of people would thank you!

    November 11, 2008 at 2:13 pm Reply
  44. Anonymous #

    fuck you anonymous

    November 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm Reply
  45. Anonymous #

    I think it is all about money. Yes people would pay about anything for a cure, but these drug companies are making so much money monthly. If they develope a cure there will only be a short term profit. I hope that when the patent runs out for valtrex there competition comes up with a cure.

    January 21, 2009 at 9:35 am Reply
  46. Anonymous #

    While herpes is definitely a problem in our society, your opinion is reactionary and not helpful. Most adults have herpes (HSV-1) and contracted it in childhood. This form of the virus can be spread to the genitals and is in fact the primary variant of genital herpes in some populations. Go get the herpes Ig test and you’ll probably be surprised. The virus has been completely sensationalized by drug companies’ attempts to scare the population to buy their new antivirals. What is the real harm of the virus? Aside from the herpes encephalitis, a severe but not particularly common complication, it seems to me that stigma is the primary problem. Antivirals usually control outbreaks quite well and people live normal lives post-infection. In non-responsive cases, obviously the effect on every day life is greater. Your disgust and lack of understanding is a mark of your complete ignorance and propagates the stigma that has been unfairly marked upon people with this disease. I see no reason to try to further stigmatize the herpes positive people reading in this forum. Your silence would be appreciated at least until you learn more about the subject at hand.

    January 2, 2009 at 10:47 pm Reply
  47. Anonymous #

    While herpes is definitely a problem in our society, your opinion is reactionary and not helpful. Most adults have herpes (HSV-1) and contracted it in childhood. This form of the virus can be spread to the genitals and is in fact the primary variant of genital herpes in some populations. Go get the herpes Ig test and you’ll probably be surprised. The virus has been completely sensationalized by drug companies’ attempts to scare the population to buy their new antivirals. What is the real harm of the virus? Aside from the herpes encephalitis, a severe but not particularly common complication, it seems to me that stigma is the primary problem. Antivirals usually control outbreaks quite well and people live normal lives post-infection. In non-responsive cases, obviously the effect on every day life is greater. Your disgust and lack of understanding is a mark of your complete ignorance and propagates the stigma that has been unfairly marked upon people with this disease. I see no reason to try to further stigmatize the herpes positive people reading in this forum. Your silence would be appreciated at least until you learn more about the subject at hand.

    January 2, 2009 at 10:48 pm Reply
  48. Anonymous #

    You obviously don’t suffer from this condition. There is a percentage of people that have to struggle with tremendous problems from this virus. Go get infected and see for yourself. Your silence should follow immediately.

    January 30, 2009 at 9:10 pm Reply
  49. Anonymous #

    Your just plain wrong. Halford’s vaccine has not killed off it’s test subjects. Do you work for some pharmaceutical company? That might explain your propaganda.

    A vaccine would be a miracle and blessing for all humanity. This disease makes people more susceptible to HIV.

    Get a clue.

    January 30, 2009 at 9:13 pm Reply
  50. Anonymous #

    Look at how long the process for phase I, II, and III takes. It will be at least five years before a decent vaccine is out. Herpevac might get clearance in a few years, and it is in Phase III right now. It only helps women who have not yet been infected, and it is only like 50% effective. It uses old vaccine technology of a non live virus, it is very safe… But should a person not have the choice to risk their life if they wanted to try a more experimental vaccine? I hate how our medicine system works in this country. We spend more than any other nation on health care, yet we rank 34′th in the world. What gives? I love the USA, but I realize that we are WAY far away from realizing the potential of our science. We shackle ourselves with monetary, societal, and superstitious hindrances.

    I’m resigned to letting my insurance company pay THOUSANDS for my Valtrex or Famvir, and I realize that this is a perpetuation of the root problem… I pray that President Obama can begin to reform our decrepit, greedy, and corrupt medical system.

    January 30, 2009 at 9:21 pm Reply
  51. Anonymous #

    Is there any thing that clearly tells us that there is no longterm side effects of taking a drug like Valtrex daily? Could people be shooting themselve in the foot so to speak by taking a drug like Valtrex daily to simple limit a herpes outbreak?

    February 20, 2009 at 12:03 pm Reply
  52. Anonymous #

    I am 16 years old. have only had sex once and also have herpies. Please for the love of god someone do something about that vaccine, ps. any advice to healp controlle my outbreaks would be sick.

    March 16, 2009 at 4:23 pm Reply
  53. Anonymous #

    Lysine. Once a day. Every day.

    March 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm Reply
  54. Anonymous #

    Does anybody know what percentage of Americans have the type 1 oral variation of the Herpes Simplex Virus? I get cold sores and was just wondering how many other people percentage-wise are in the same boat.

    Thanks.

    March 6, 2009 at 3:14 am Reply
  55. Anonymous #

    I took Valtrex for maybe a month and got very depressed, losed hope and was not able to rationalize through problems. After a few friends started making comments I stopped taking it and my thinking improved in like 3 or 4 days.

    March 26, 2009 at 6:20 pm Reply
  56. Anonymous #

    I got herpes from a virgin who had never had symptoms. We had a very honest and good relationship, now I have almost constant genital herpes symptoms. I really hope a vaccine becomes available.

    April 6, 2009 at 10:09 pm Reply
  57. Anonymous #

    Believe it or not! You and I have the same situation in common. I was married 18 years before I seperated from my husband. I thought we were going to try to repair our marrige and we had sex. He never wanted to repair the marriage but he wanted to hurt me and said to me you have seen my nice side and you will soon see my wicked side! About a month later I started having symptoms. That was three years ago. I have not told a single soul! not one soul. No body! It has never left my mouth. I walk around with so much pain and hurt in my heart. I too have met some one, I am so deeply in love with him he’s some one I use to see before I met my husband. He and I have never had sex, in the past or even this time. I am old fasion as well and don’t beleive in premarital sex. we are boh in love with each other. I know I will have to tell him sooner then I want to. I wish I would never have to have this conversation. What give me hope is the valtrex commercial. It give me hope when I see the couples. One says I have genital herpies and the orher onse says and I still don’t. That give me hope, that when I am force to tell him, I could share with him that we can have a sexual relationship and he dont have to contract the virus if we are carful. That is if he is willing to take the chance. I will add you in my paryers always.

    July 29, 2009 at 9:19 pm Reply
  58. Anonymous #

    Believe it or not! You and I have the same situation in common. I was married 18 years before I seperated from my husband. I thought we were going to try to repair our marrige and we had sex. He never wanted to repair the marriage but he wanted to hurt me and said to me you have seen my nice side and you will soon see my wicked side! About a month later I started having symptoms. That was three years ago. I have not told a single soul! not one soul. No body! It has never left my mouth. I walk around with so much pain and hurt in my heart. I too have met some one, I am so deeply in love with him he’s some one I use to see before I met my husband. He and I have never had sex, in the past or even this time. I am old fasion as well and don’t beleive in premarital sex. we are boh in love with each other. I know I will have to tell him sooner then I want to. I wish I would never have to have this conversation. What give me hope is the valtrex commercial. It give me hope when I see the couples. One says I have genital herpies and the orher onse says and I still don’t. That give me hope, that when I am force to tell him, I could share with him that we can have a sexual relationship and he dont have to contract the virus if we are carful. That is if he is willing to take the chance. I will add you in my paryers always.

    July 29, 2009 at 9:21 pm Reply
  59. Anonymous #

    Oral and Genital Herpes are in the same family (Herpesviridae) as Mononucleosis, Chicken Pox, Epstein-Barr and Shingles. Anybody on this list not had at least one of these diseases in their lifetime? I think researchers should be giving a little more attention to the spread of this virus type.

    April 20, 2009 at 12:02 am Reply
  60. Anonymous #

    1. therapeutic. treat/supress infection not CURE it
    2. preventive….. the above vaccine is to PREVENT infection. a cure for HSV will be very difficult to find.

    April 20, 2009 at 5:52 pm Reply
  61. Anonymous #

    I will share what has worked for me to suppress the outbreaks. This is after years and years of out breaks and trying what I am sure is what everyone else has tried by searching the web. From oxygenated liquid , MSO, red marine algae….etc.
    I use 91% rubbing alcohol Walgreens brand and 1000 MG tablets of L-Lysine Nature Made brand
    It must be 91% !!!! NOT 70% Isopropyl.
    Also must be Nature made 1000mg L-Lysine tablets.
    Both are available at your local Walgreens and are inexpensive.
    I wash genitals morning and evening.
    If you have a current outbreak put on cotton ball and keep it on the out break.
    When I started this and stopped the last outbreak I had. I took 2000mg L-Lysine morning, 1000mg noon and 2000Mg evening. Until it was gone. Now once a week I might take 2000mg. this has also kept me from getting any cold or flu this winter.
    I am male 5’11 200lbs and athletic build. That is what I have found works for my body type. I hope this helps some one. it can be frustrating.

    April 25, 2009 at 8:27 am Reply
  62. Anonymous #

    While everyone is worried about the funding for a cure why don’t we start the funds our self if everyone that is infected could make some contribution to the funding of the cure for herpes we may be able to start research as soon as funds are availiable. Im no expert on finding a cure but it seems like the shortage on funds is the base of the problem. Their must be sum way all herpes victims could start a fund and be able to use it only towards the research for the cure of herpes. I know its not much but its a start does anyone agree, disagree, or know how we could get started on this. Because if science can’t get started on it fast enough, why not take action ourselves.

    May 4, 2009 at 9:02 am Reply
  63. Anonymous #

    I used to get break outs all the time. Now I get almost ZERO by eating raw broccoli every day. AND its healthy and prevents cancer! But it tastes nasty. So you can eat with a dip

    EVERYONE TRY IT>>>>TRUST ME!!!!!!!!

    May 5, 2009 at 1:45 am Reply
  64. Anonymous #

    and this if from 2003…..you will prevent many things and the chemical in Broccoli thwarts off herpes…..please spread the word everyone on other sites because not many people know this!
    webmd.com/genital-herpes/news/20030915/broccoli-may-thwart-herpes-virus

    May 5, 2009 at 1:51 am Reply
  65. Anonymous #

    I read your comment and I think it is very interesting as well as the article from web-md i want to give it a try because it is alot easier and cheaper than buying the medication and besides I LOVE BROCCOLI!!!! So im going to talk to my husband about it and i will also spread the word to any one else with the same problems. Thanks!!!!

    May 5, 2009 at 6:38 pm Reply
  66. Anonymous #

    And I forgot to ask how much do you eat a day or does it matter!!!!

    May 5, 2009 at 6:40 pm Reply
  67. Anonymous #

    EXCERSISE, DON’T DRINK ALCOHOL, DON’T EAT CHOCOLATE, EAT YOGURT!!!!!!! AND DRINK OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT PILL ONCE A DAY!!!! THATS IT!!! YOGURT IS VERY HIGH IN LYSINE AND VERY TASTY!!!! I TRIED IT AND WAS AMAZED I EVEN DRANK FOR 3 DAYS STRAIGHT AND NO OUTBREAK!!! (YES NO OUTBREAK) TRY IT OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT PILLS ARE VERY CHEAP ONLINE YOU GET THEM FOR ABOUT $6 SO ITS INEXPENSIVE HEALTHY AND WILL DEFINATELY WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 12, 2009 at 8:06 pm Reply
  68. Anonymous #

    I tried the broccoli once a day and I am also taking 2 1000mg of lysine once a day and I don’t have any outbreaks. The only time I notice symptoms of an outbreak is the day after me and my husband had rough sex, but I read that trama to the area could trigger an outbreak, but as soon as I noticed symptoms I took 3 1000mg of lysine instead of 2 and my symptoms went away. And I also eat and drink alot of dairy products because they are also high in lysine, and they are very good to– trust me IT WORKS!!!!!!!! A bottle of lysine is about $10 at any GNC but you have to take 1250mg or more a day for it to work!!!!!

    May 17, 2009 at 2:39 pm Reply
  69. Anonymous #

    I have not had any real outbreaks since I got HSV-2. I have not taken any medication either. Before I could get out of the “denile” phase of my infection, I did not take procautions and got my girlfriend sick. I would use saliva to masterbate and spread this shit to my lips and tongue. Somewhere along the lines, I also rubbed both my eyes and got it all over the lids. I went through the initial outbreak twice, even though there was no actual outbreak. Red little bumps sure, but my immune system must kick ass, cuz they never broke. It has been 8 months and I am still in the same spot. My skin especially ball sack and eyes get itchy. If I stretch the skin on my penis, I can see the hordes of tiny demons deep underneath, trying to claw their way to the surface… but they never do. My skin, from using the same towel again and again during my denile phase (oh, by the way, I did go to the doctors and was not diagnosed 3 times) has left my skin rather rough. It is not baby smooth like it once was. I feel as if my immune system were to shut down, my whole body would break out and I would be one giant blister. BOOM! I am smarter about my towel usage. I use 1 for my face and body, and the other for my genitals…. I just thought I would share. Please reply if you have a similar story. Also, is there something I can take to just make the itch go away?

    May 21, 2009 at 12:40 am Reply
  70. Anonymous #

    I feel the same way….if you ever come in contact with this reply, i would like to chat, i feel hopeless as well..

    perhaps we can give each other support on how to deal with this…at times i feel suicidal.
    Not to be cocky, im a good looking guy, a great personality, and great to get along with, and never had any trouble finding someone..but just the thought of going from someone like that to someone whos even afraid to even start talking to someone is horrible.

    In short words, i feel like my life is over. Im young, and ironically i never got it by having sex with anyone, not even oral sex. Instead i kissed a guy who didnt bother teling me anything that he had oral herpes, and he gave me a handjob with complete clothes on, which apparently his hands were also infected with perhaps his suliva.

    God only knows how much hate i have towards him. I wish every day that he gets his karma.

    If anyone would like a friend more than anything, those willing to chat, all are welcome to message me or email me at
    camerafamous@gmail.com

    July 7, 2009 at 6:39 pm Reply
  71. Anonymous #

    how do I donate?

    July 9, 2009 at 6:47 pm Reply
  72. Anonymous #

    I was pacing around a pharmacy looking for a miracle cure to my cold sore when a Pharmacist told me I wouldn’t find anything that would really work, but that I should take Lysine everyday to keep from getting an outbreak in the future. I wish I knew that man’s name because he is one of my Heroes! The cold sores I’ve gotten since I was about 12 were absolutely enormous. Not something that could be hidden at all. Awful.

    Ever since learning what contributes to an outbreak I’ve had tremendous success in suppressing outbreaks. 10 years, no outbreaks!!!

    Lysine is taken to balance out your Lysine/Arginine balance. Too much arginine in your system and an outbreak is likely. Google a list of Arginine rich foods and avoid them if you can. A short list is; coffee, chocolate, legumes, peanut butter. All things I love by the way.

    Other triggers for cold sores; sunburn, this is HUGE always use lip balm with sunscreen, ALWAYS. Friction; for example, drying your face with a rough towel and dragging the towel over your lips too hard, I had this trigger an outbreak once almost immediately.

    Stress. Gotta regulate the stress people. I know how hard that is.

    Take the Lysine, Sunscreen on the lips, limit arginine rich foods!!! Good luck, this is an awful curse.

    May 28, 2009 at 10:54 am Reply
  73. Anonymous #

    you should ask your doctor to write you a prescription for: Nystatin and Triamcinolone Acetonide (Oitment) USP 60MG. Is a great cream and you use a little in the itch area. Works very well. I took Valtrex for voer a year and am taking another medicine now for over 6 months and nothing works. Every month I suffer with the same unconfortable itchy. My ex gave me this crap and I did not know the bastard had herps. I was with him for over two years and did not know that the itching spots was herps. My doctors also all failed me. I complained about it so many times and they told me ” it was nothing, i do not see anything” until I changed doctors and he gave me a blood test and there was, positive. This is so awful. It totally ruined my life and I do not date anymore, since I can not go a single month without breakouts and also I do not know when if I am ever safe to even think of having sex with a person. The last thing I need to to give this awful thing to another person.
    Anyways, get yourself this cream(not generic) one and you will feel better in 30 minutes after.

    May 29, 2009 at 5:41 pm Reply
  74. Anonymous #

    I love your Idea. If we all give a little bit I bet the fever will catch on and soon we will have a vaccine. What if we contact that Doctor in fron the State University of Montana.
    He has the right idea of using the live virus to make a vaccine. It is the only way to make a vaccine that will work.

    May 29, 2009 at 5:46 pm Reply
  75. Anonymous #

    by practicing yoga and taking gud diet , u can live long time with this virus, think that u r not alone in this world. vl hope for a gud day that can help millions from this virus. vl pray silently.

    June 3, 2009 at 4:01 am Reply
  76. Anonymous #

    To make the itch go away (and I know this sounds really odd, but it helps alittle) but Lotrimin works to ease off the itch. My doctor gave me some medication and cream, but that did not work, that was before results came in. After I was diagnosed she gave me the medication for the outbreak, but did Not prescribe me any valtrex, or anything for that matter, which I found odd. But I totally understand about the towels, I do the same thing. I am not currently on medication, I still do not know if I could tell if im on an outbreak, they say the first one is the worst, and I only had the first intital outbreak, as far as I know. Try Lotrimin use it on your genitals to help relieve the itch. Otherwise try a different clinic in getting diagnosed. Or as them for the medication as if you were on an outbreak, to see if they help!

    June 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm Reply
  77. Anonymous #

    Whenever I feel that slight twinge down under I immediately pour peroxide on the spot, sit a few moments, dry the area and put neosporin for pain on the area. After I pee thru out the day I reapply the neosporin. At night I wear really loose shorts so that it has time to get air and not be constantly moist.. after about 3 days the tingles go away and a blister doesn’t appear.

    June 17, 2009 at 6:03 am Reply
  78. Anonymous #

    i went to church one day and a minister just so happen to speak about Jesus healing people….he then spoke about how the doctors said he had a life long disease…herpes! long story short…as i sat and listened he then call people up to get their healing…at first i didnt want to go and only because what the doctor told me…which was there is no cure…then i thought that HEY STUPID DIDNT YOU JUST HEAR WHAT HE SAID??? JESUS HEALED THOSE WHO ASKED TO BE HEALED. AND I ASKED TO BE HEALED ALONG TIME AGO…so of course i went up to the alter and just by taking those first steps, i was walking into my healing…if you dont believe me just as God to heal you…just as you would if you needed anything else in this world…or just wanted anything and got it…but just remember it starts with opening your mouth and then persuing it…(no one sits around and waits after ur healed to go to the doctor and get meds)
    PS. IT COULD BE THE BROCCOLI MIXED WITH THE LYSINE OR THE JUST THE LYSINE OR WHATEVER ELSE…EVERYONES DIFFERENT AND ALL BODIES ARENT THE SAME…SO YOU HAVE TO FIND WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!! JUST ASK AND ITLL COME!!

    June 23, 2009 at 7:56 pm Reply
  79. Anonymous #

    Hi,

    I am real sorry that you are only sixteen and have this trouble.

    I’ve had the same trouble for 16 years! But it’s really not an issue anymore.

    In almost everybody, as time goes by, this disease becomes less of a problem. You will have fewer and fewer outbreaks until they basically stop happening. Our bodies are amazing things, and you will not always have outbreaks like you do now..

    For now, you can probably see a big difference by taking 2000mg. of L-Lysine every day until it stops/slows down. You should expect to see good results gradually over a period of six months or less.

    You MUST keep your immune system strong to keep your disease under control. Try not to drink much alcohol, and DO NOT take any recreational drugs. Eat healthy, vitamins, sleep etc.. Google anti-viral foods like shitake mushrooms, EV coconut oil etc…

    Use this time to re-examine your attitudes about sex and morality. Grow your spirit while your body heals itself. Talk to others and learn all that you can about the disease. Try to relax and accept this thing for what it really is…a nuisance. Stress makes it worse.

    You are going to get past this thing…I promise. You are so young. Life is so much more than having sex ! And who knows if tomorrow is the day someone finds the cure.

    Best regards,

    Mario

    July 19, 2009 at 12:23 pm Reply
  80. Anonymous #

    I found out last week. Was married 18 years….been divorced for a few years….my only partner for the last 20 years was my x-husband. I never thought this could happen to me because I was married. The only reason I found out is because the dr asked me during a physical if I wanted to have the test and I said, “Sure, it’s going to come back negative.” I wish I had said no. She blew my mind. Right now, I am asking myself could I have had it all these years from a previous partner and didn’t know? Did my x step out on me and bring this home?

    I’ve been seeing this guy for the last few years since my divorce and have not had had sex, because I want to wait until we married (old school). He tells me he is in love with me all the time and I think he’s going to want to get married.

    This is going to break his heart and may destroy our future.

    The only reason why I haven’t taken my life is because I have children that need me.

    I am trying to be strong, but I am devestated. I pray they find a cure.

    July 19, 2009 at 7:09 pm Reply
  81. Anonymous #

    I’m planning to put up a site for funding for research to cure these diseases.

    Jus wait…

    And pray for me.

    July 21, 2009 at 6:03 am Reply
  82. Anonymous #

    yah.. this would be a good step.. please do it

    July 21, 2009 at 4:34 pm Reply
  83. Anonymous #

    Do you have herpes or are you just offering your own oppinion? And if you do have them have you been healed by your prayer?

    July 22, 2009 at 11:53 pm Reply
  84. Anonymous #

    your comment has gave me a sensation that reached the surface of my head, thank you

    July 31, 2009 at 7:23 pm Reply
  85. Anonymous #

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ …………Lets all contact the president so he can put some pressure on real research for a cure……they cant ignore all of us…i already emailed them..i will be doing it once a day

    August 3, 2009 at 9:22 pm Reply
  86. Anonymous #

    Awesome idea! Of course, they will be forced to read your daily emails and all those who you urge to flood the WH and president with mail. No way, they can’t ignore you. Please, let us know what their automated spam message says, the anticipation is killing me already.

    August 12, 2009 at 5:57 pm Reply
  87. Anonymous #

    Obviously your not understanding the people. Obviously your oblivious ignorance show us the people of this disease, this stigmata that you don’t care. Do not get me wrong sometimes something should not be said, but if the people of this disease do not and stand up for our well being and focus on eraticting this disease. Then you could be opening up a world of upset people. That some might just use there disease as a powerful weapon, infect. Yes, I understand that you cannot die from it, but then its opens you up for HIV. Which as i understand, you can die or be very sick. I am not threatening you or anyone else. We the people of this disease, are not being selfish or thinking only for ourself. We are trying to help all and provent this disease from spreading, which could also open a window through reasch for other diseases.

    I strongly feel that is to suggest we are uneducated about this issue. If you would just read these forms, there are people of young ages and older asking about information about this unfortunate compilication. That to belittle us as wrong or attempts to be heared as one voice in a commen goal. Is saying that we have no right, To talk about our discussion of the situation at hand and thoughts for a way for populations to be free of this disease or any other diseases.

    I myself, no wish to stand by and let someone of your ingnorance to shut down these people.

    Yes, ill be honest. I am among these people who are infected. I recently found out that I have HSV-2. just like many others I fell into depression, and almost pulled the trigger to end the suffering. I’m afraid of it, but after my doctor told me what he saw in me when he walked into my room. Has moved me in ways that I cannot… stand by particularly this non-responsive form or the pharmaceutical companies won’t help.

    I believe that, we the people can by pass these pharmaceutical companies. I’m still reseaching the by-laws and complications of this situation. Though, still if we the people of this disease. Put even one dollar each into a funding to support reseach for a cure today. We could have millions or more.

    All we need is to come together as one for this motion, to over come what other might block us from doing this country or the world a great deal of good.

    if anyone is up for this please lets all try together.

    you can reach me at:

    gabepierson2007@hotmail.com
    or at facebook using this email.

    thank you I hope my voice is heared.

    Benjamin G. Pierson

    August 8, 2009 at 4:51 pm Reply
  88. Anonymous #

    I saw the video posted here on December 7, about the probability of already existing 2 vaccines for herpes.
    If this is true, then something should be done.
    I’ll post here the link for that video again, so that more people see it and maybe give us some information about it.

    August 13, 2009 at 1:23 pm Reply
  89. Anonymous #

    Has anyone heard of this company Resolve Herpes? They claim that they have a certain combination of minerals that boosts your immune system to the point that it pushes the virus out itself… ??

    October 3, 2009 at 12:09 pm Reply
  90. Anonymous #

    I am from Europe and been to the USA many times. Your health system is based on theft not on helping or curing people. What they charge you for medicine we almost get for free overhere.(Austria)

    Healthcare in Europe on average works likes this:

    Private: You pay around 80-120 Euro a month and you are covered for everything the doctor does to you. From X-Rays to operations.Its all included.Any accidents etc.
    Employed: The healthcare plan is substracted from your income and you are totally covered.Same price more or less. Same coverage.

    If you are a poor without an income you apply for the emergency funding and you get enough money to afford food and your health care plan is for free. You need however to apply for this,get registered and attend seminars where they will try to find you a suitable work but you are definitely covered and don’t pay for the doctor.

    I believe in Barack Obama, he is the first president in almost American History that makes sense to me. Your former presidents were crooks and thieves on an epic level…

    October 4, 2009 at 1:05 am Reply
  91. Anonymous #

    One question: Why is it that when people around the world want to be cured of a serious disease or illness, they come to the US?……..hmmm, maybe because we have the best doctors and medicines???? We pay the price for having a free market economy and private healthcare system. Is our healthcare system perfect? NO, not by a long shot. However, Barack Obama is NOT the answer. History will show that Barack Obama was a complete mistake. You only see what the media wants you to see.

    October 21, 2009 at 9:28 pm Reply
  92. Anonymous #

    please dont pay a coin towards this resolve products. they are fake. itsbasically another scam.
    i have done so, followed every step and after three months, the outbreaks returned. I didnt have sex so it wasnt a reinfection. these are sort of guys one would ask why governments are allowing them to make amockery of people suffering from the desease. its a shame. I spent £230 pounds just to detox my body, that was it really. the virus is sdtil there and a i write this comment, I am experiencing an outbreak!
    but I think the job pof professor halfolrd should be followed up! he might have the answer to this crazy shameful disease
    mj/uk

    November 21, 2009 at 1:59 pm Reply
  93. Anonymous #

    Don’t tell him. It will cause u great pain. I will say a prayer for u.

    November 28, 2009 at 10:58 pm Reply
  94. Anonymous #

    Prayer is the key. I believe I read where you said the guy you are dating loves you. Did I read that correct? If so, Honey what are you afraid of? If the love is genuine then whats there to worry about. The devil is a lye and you believe that and begin to speak and claim you healing. In the name of Jesus!!!

    January 3, 2010 at 10:05 am Reply
  95. Anonymous #

    I myself am a believer of all things being possible thru prayer, trust me your not in this alone. god does things to us that we will understand eventually & he carries us thru obstacles that we will thank him 4 in the end. no were not being punished or tested, you make mistakes 2 learn 4rm them & eventhough there is no cure for this disease as of now, it will not be like this 4eva. there will b a cure one day & my faith is in Dr. Bryan Cullen. google him & you will find info on him & his workings. don’t give up hope or faith just yet, god will make things better for you, just pray! & in the meantime I will keep you all in my prayers. if anyone needs someone to talk to u can reach me @ “nesha21613@yahoo.com” I hope I have helped some of you & hopefully you believe that there still is hope, just dnt give up yet. take care & god bless.

    January 3, 2010 at 9:45 pm Reply
  96. Anonymous #

    Every word from Mario is true and genuinely good advice. What you lose as freedom you gain as wisdom.

    For overall well-being, stay emotionally strong, get your rest, guard against colds and fatigue, be honest with yourself and with others, don’t be taken over by stress and remember you’re not alone with this problem.

    RE: Homeopathic help & a tip that has worked for me: Pure Tea Tree Oil. Keep a small bottle handy and apply it with a cotton swab to the outbreak area when you feel it coming on or upon the time of visible outbreak for relief and faster disappearance. Very effectve.

    RE: RX — You should also ask your doctor for a prescription (refillable) for a tube of Zovirax (Acyclovir) ointment. If you have infrequent or minor outbreaks it may just be adequate enough to use this only when you have the outbreaks, and forego ongoing doses of it in pill form when you don’t have outbreaks — especially if you find you have sex infrequently, use condoms, and tend to refrain from oral sex.

    Less fun, but you’re not on a pill every day wondering if you’re keeping it away. Do try to practice safe sex, and re-think how you deal with oral sex in your relationships, you can work it out and still enjoy a degree of intimacy.

    THERE IS LIFE AFTER HERPES… AND IT CAN BE A NORMAL AND EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY ONE.

    January 30, 2010 at 11:42 pm Reply
  97. Anonymous #

    F.Y.I. Mario’s words of advice were posted in the string below — see July 19th — and the message was titled Hello…..

    Good luck and keep the faith for healthy life and an ultimate cure.

    January 30, 2010 at 11:55 pm Reply
  98. Anonymous #

    First off, I just want to say that the people who claim that all we need to do is “pray”: you are idiots. If Jesus is the only one that can save us, then I’m in a lot more trouble than I thought. Us that are infected need to scream publicly at the top of our lungs that this epidemic needs to be addressed. After all, we live in a Democracy. Even that’s even not good enough. All of us that are affected, either indirectly or directly, need to collectively donate to credible organizations that can help (either by coming up with a cure or, at least, a vaccine). Perhaps modern medicine will not come up with at cure, if there is a vaccine, at least I will know that my partner is protected.

    I contracted after recently breaking up (or so I thought) with my fiancé. The story is not important, other than the fact that I was on the rebound and I had a conversation before I engaged in sexual activity with the girl I contracted this from. I do not think that this was my fault, in the sense that this girl assured me she had no STDs (even told me that she knew she couldn’t get pregnant if we had sex without protection). The point is that there are bad people in the world, and you can’t really protect against that. If a person decides it is within them to potentially ruin someone else’s life for whatever their short term or immediate objective is, there’s really nothing anyone who trusts them can do about it. I don’t want to go on and on about my experience, but I had sex with this girl one time (after specifically asking her about her history and if she had anything I should worry about). Also, I had just “broken up” (I will be the first one to admit that I don’t understand women and how they communicate) with my fiancé within a few weeks of this experience. It seems like everyone is entitled to a justified rebound without serious consequences—except me.

    I haven’t been able to bring myself to date in a while (several months). I have met some women that have seemed interested; however, I have been unable to call them back because of my condition.

    Recently, last week, I met another girl who I know is very interested. To make a long story sort, I did call her back (although I was under the influence at the time). We’ve been talking, and she has even brought up the fact that she looks forward to being physical. In the olden days, we would have already been together; but I’ve just told her at this point that I want to make her feel good, but there are things we need to talk about. Unfortunately, I fear that this message has unintentionally caused her to feel closer to me. Every time I think about having sex I have a mini panic attack. Just to make things clear, there is no way that I will have sex with this girl without telling her about my condition. Be that as it may, I think I’m more concerned if that when I tell her she will be okay with it. I’ve learned that even condoms aren’t enough protection. I like this girl, but I don’t really know her. This situation is so fuct up because (I am talking only about myself) I can’t love someone without potentially hurting them. Not only that, what if I do infect this person–is it my obligation to be with this person as long as they want me to because I changed their life forever (even if I’m not feeling it)?

    I’m living a nightmare that I can’t wake up from. We all need to pull together to find a vaccine/cure.

    February 1, 2010 at 12:19 am Reply
  99. Anonymous #

    omg I so agree wit erthng u are sayn. I have had many posts on here so I won’t say much but I do believe we all need 2 cum 2getha & get da ball rollin on puttin da word out about a cure AND vaccine! we dnt want jus one, we need both! this world is controlled by medicine & sick ppl means $$$ & we need 2 stp lookn @ da dollar $ & look @ da big picture & dat would be a CURE! yes we all want a cure for this horrible disease & I thnk we are owed dat much. I mean dis is the only virus that does nt have an vaccine! nw dats nt rite or fair…I thnk if the medicine wrld wld read des posts dey wld have a change of heart & get on da ball 2 find a cure or vaccine! I hope things begin 2 change…& I dnt mean n da nxt 15yrs either…its 2010 I mean damn hw lng does it take? erthng u read says researchers are still searching, well what’s da hold up? plz read & hear our cries..we wld like a cure for this horrible disease! u cnt even enjoy bein wit sum1 without havin the fear of passin it onto sum1 else…I pray 4u all as well as myself! god bless & take care..& continue postin!

    February 1, 2010 at 9:19 pm Reply
  100. Anonymous #

    im 18 years old and found out about 2 months ago i have herpes. went to 3 different docs and none of them could tell me what was wrong. i could not walk, i had every flu symptom, i didnt pee for 3 days because it hurt so bad. after about 2 weeks, finally i went to the emergency room and got the news. i kept thinking they were wrong, and it was a mistake. when reality finally set in, i wanted to die. i felt so dirty. i kept thinking of that stupid guy. we were not in a relationship, auctually, i barley knew him. it was a one night stand at a party. i was so discusted with myself. i cant even discribe the feeling of hatred i had for myself…

    it seems to be getting better tho. the emotional part of it at least. its only been a month, but i feel like im moving on. i dont think about it as much, and when i do, i no longer have that discusted feeling with myself..not really at least. i have not yet had anoher outbreak either.

    the thing im scared of most is spreading it. i have been doing my research about it for a while, but i still have some questions i hope someone can answer for me.

    besides the tingley feeling, is there any other way to know before you get an outbreak?
    is the like an itch or something? and how long does it ususally last before the outbreak?
    can i spread it even when there is no sores?
    and if so, is there any way to know?
    how can i tell the difference between razer burn, an ingrown hair, and an outbreak?
    can i spread it through a pool or shower?
    and you spread it through oral sex? ( stupid question i know, but just to be sure)
    are the other outbreaks as painfull as the first?( i read its not, but i want opions from people who know first hand)
    i used abreva and it seemed to help for my first outbreak, what else seems to help speed up the healing process?
    does having a healthy diet help reduce the chance of a outbreak?

    these are only some of the many questions i have. if you have any information you might think helpfull, please let me know. im scared to death of this, and getting some answers would really help me out a lot.

    thank you so much

    May 6, 2010 at 1:34 am Reply
  101. Anonymous #

    Personally i believe they already have cures and vaccines for many of the diseases. the difference is who gets it and who doesnt. Cures and vaccines are those who have money. I talking BIG MONEY. The rest of us are just cash cows for the drug companies. What the government wants me to believe is that with all of this technology, classified and top secret info there’s no cure for herpes? come on man. as we already know about the non-profit in cures doesnt mean that they dont have them. What if the president caught HIV/AIDS. You really think they wouldnt give him something to make that shit go away? when one starts to do research in depth you will find these fuckers are hiding everything from us because really we’re nothing but cattle to them. Why buy the cow when you can continue to get the milk for free.

    May 22, 2010 at 10:43 pm Reply
  102. Anonymous #

    i got herpes from my x before he went to the army. i hate him every day for it. i hate myself for leaving my first love for him. and i hate myself for not seeing the signs that he was playin me. i also hate myself for giving it to three people already including my best friend. who in result hates me now. ive considered killing myself, but i havent yet. i dont think i will. but herpes ruiened my life and i dont think ill ever get over the depression. even with these stupid pills and all the drinking/drugs i do. fuck life. fuck chad. and fuck herpes.

    May 26, 2010 at 12:26 pm Reply
  103. Anonymous #

    So… the vaccine would be amazing… what would that mean for people already infected? a cure?

    November 3, 2009 at 4:04 pm Reply
  104. The Herpes Blog #

    It is a huge leap from successful testing in mice to success in human trials. Also, it will take an abundance of funding to bring this to fruition. Whether it is the stigma of genital herpes, or the already profitable anti-viral medications in existence, there has consistently been a lack of funding for a herpes vaccine. A herpes vaccine will also be of limited value to those of us already infected with HSV.

    While rooting for a future vaccine our best treatment is education and immuno support. Don’t be at war or fight the herpes in your body. Focus, build and have gratitude for the health and immunity in your body. This alone will help to reduce outbreaks.

    http://www.theherpesblog.com

    November 4, 2009 at 9:19 am Reply
  105. Anonymous #

    Hello guys here is the site.
    To help fund the research.
    http://herpescureresearch.org/

    But it’s still under construction.

    August 27, 2009 at 2:15 am Reply
  106. Anonymous #

    I’m from the UK and when I hear what type of antivirals you use (Valtrex), I have never heard of it. You say it doesn’t work. I use Aciclovir and you take 5 tablets a day for 5 days but it goes within the first 2 days its great. I also see where you say they will never find a cure because you have to pay for Valtrex and thats where they will get money, but in the UK we don’t have to pay for any prescriptions that are to do with sexual transmitted diseases and contraception.

    So don’t put it out of peoples minds that they won’t ever find a cure. Its something that I look fowards too at least.

    And I also find that when itching starts I use any type of cream with Lidocaine. It numbs the area and really helps for women when they have to relieve themselves on the toilet. Off course you need to make sure with your doctor using this.

    It is really hard to have this virus. We just need more information about this and just abit of hope

    September 29, 2009 at 8:35 am Reply
  107. Anonymous #

    Hope the suggest could be passed, it is useful for herpes.

    herpes outbreak

    October 6, 2009 at 7:58 am Reply
  108. Anonymous #

    Herpes may be the sole cause of alzheimer’s disease. We need a cure.

    October 14, 2009 at 9:34 pm Reply
  109. Anonymous #

    I was in a wonderful relationship for over a year we were talking about marriage. Then it happened. I thought I had an ingrown hair. I even showed her. I had know idea it was my first outbreak it was one red spot. A few weeks later she had a full out break. She kept accusing me of cheating. She said I was a nasty filthy diseased person. She kept having massive outbreaks . She hates me and tells everyone I’m a nasty bastard. I understand I gave them to her but I promise I had no idea I had them. Even when I thought it was an infected hair I knew I was faithful and I was sure she was. I want to thank everyone who has comminted before me. I realize I am not disgusting I realize there was a way I could have had it and not known it

    October 28, 2009 at 12:16 pm Reply
  110. Anonymous #

    Nice to know that all avenues to a prevalent and “old” disease are investigated…it shows you how much progress can be made by a dedicated and innovative individual bucking the system.

    October 28, 2009 at 1:48 pm Reply
  111. Anonymous #

    Hello,
    I was diagnosed with HSV-2 almost 2 years ago. It was devasting, and being since I have never had any symptoms, I was very confused. I have only slept with one person three times, using protection. I ahve performed oral sex on less than five men; however, I really do not feel that I received the disease from them. A few weeks ago, I got a call from a friend in California who said that her doctor refused to test her for HSV-2 because she has previously had mono. He went on to say that the test, oftentimes, confuse the two viruses. She called me because I had severe mono for two years when I was younger!

    I am wondering if I really have HSV-2 or not….I can’t get a crystallized answer, and I have only ever had a single bump come up- that could be anything theoretically.

    Can someone help me with this? Surely, if I really had the virus, I would have had an outbreak. My poor immune system has been down and out. I did not even get a single bump when I contracted Typhoid Fever in Africa….or when I had the flu….or when I was completely bombarded with stress from school work..

    Help!

    November 9, 2009 at 9:47 pm Reply
  112. The Herpes Blog #

    I am so sorry that you are going through this.

    It is very possible that you do carry the virus and are asymptomatic (meaning you do not have outbreaks or symptoms but can pass the virus on through viral shedding). However it does seem equally possible that you do not carry HSV2 based on your history with mono.

    There is specialized testing available: The HSV2 IgG claims to be 100% accurate in determining if it’s HSV2 or 1 and the HerpeSelect is about 91%-100%. I would consult with either an infectious disease expert or qualified OB-GYN to get an answer.

    You do not need to spend the rest of your life trying to protect sexual partners from a virus you may not even carry. The technology is there to provide you with a definitive answer.

    Good luck!

    http://www.theherpesblog.com

    November 10, 2009 at 11:45 am Reply
  113. The Herpes Blog #

    I am not sure if you are checking back for a response but I came across this blog report at Web MD from 2008. It really does seem like your test could be wrong.

    http://blogs.webmd.com/genital-herpes-intimate-conversations/

    Please let us know if you are retested and are negative.

    All the best,

    The Vaginal Herpes Blog

    November 11, 2009 at 6:57 pm Reply
  114. Anonymous #

    I was diagnosed with Genital Herpes earlier in November 2009. I am only 17 and cannot believe this could have happened to me. I have always been aware of STI’s but never though it would happen to me, maybe this being my age and naivity.

    I have only ever had one sexual partner in my life, and only had intercourse 3 times with the same boy in the same year. Twice in January and once in November. He swore to me he had no other sexual partners but clearly he did, i still havent spoken to him about this disease as he is back with his ex-girlfriend and I would rather have nothing to do with him ever again.

    I am now so afraid of the future and what it may hold, how am i ever going to have sex again without spreading this awful disease? I feel i am too young to get into a serious relationship and have this type of conversation with another boy at my age. I am so worried and scared this could lead to some sort of depression.

    January 2, 2010 at 9:45 am Reply
  115. Anonymous #

    Baby I feel your pain and I know what you are going through. I was infected by someone I was intimate with for 5 years and when I mentioned my situation to him he denied ever being with anyone else besides me. To make a long story short. I just want to assure you that when you meet someone and he is right for you, he will accept you for who you are regardless of what you have. I also advise you not to say anything about your condition untill you see and know forsure the relationship you have with your next partner is just more than sex. Make sure he likes you for who you are and so on……But be encouraged everything happens for a reason, I promise you all things will work out for your good only if you believe. When I say this Im also speaking to myself. Be Blessed

    January 3, 2010 at 9:52 am Reply
  116. Anonymous #

    I know how all of you guys feel, trust me i’m in the same boat & with each day it gets a bit easier & a bit harder to deal with. this is a disease that affects so many people, no its not life threatening but the after effect that it has on one’s life is serious. & the emotional stress that go along with it is also serious, I wish someone would find a cure for this disease & soon. idk if anyone has ever came across “Dr. Bryan Cullen’s” website, all you have to do is google him and you will find some info that will change your life & hopefully open you up to believe that somewhere out there a cure is on the horizon. i’m willin to listen to anyone who jus needs or wants someone to talk to that can relate what your goin thru, so my email is nesha21613@yahoo.com & plz feel free to email me & I will surely respond. I hope i’ve helped…god bless & take care.

    January 3, 2010 at 9:25 pm Reply
  117. Anonymous #

    Hi,
    I can understand what you are going through at this point of time. I have also been infected with the same some two years back. Its our mistake to put our trust in wrong places. What has happened is happened we cannot go back and change that. Rather thinking about your infection focus on the beautifull part of your life. what are the things you can do and enjoy in this single life which we have. You are not alone. You’ll meet a person who can love you with the way you are as it happened in my case. I meet a girl who made me fall in love forgetting everythig about this infection. She knows about my case and she still wants me to be with her. You’ll also find the love of your life just wait dont try to search for it. Everything happens for a reason and you’ll also have yours soon. Trust in god dont give up. The cure can come anytime. Dont spend too much of time in thiking rather spend it on thinking about your future. Have a goal and work towards it. This ‘ll divert you mostly. Again dont commit the same mistake putting trust in wrong places. True love, friendship everything are not made that happens. Just relax and let those things happen. A person who cannot be with you in your worst times has no rights to be with you when you are shinning. May be this could have happened to us just to show that these are the people who can love us with whatever we are and these are people who are using us. Dont give up. Keep smiling there is plenty of smiles left in our life. Keep smiling. Take care

    January 4, 2010 at 11:44 pm Reply
  118. Anonymous #

    my issue with this matter is the fact that doctors say its not life threatening which is why they are taking so long to find a cure & making new treatments instead of a cure. to me its really life threatening being that you can contrat HIV from the lesions that come along wit the herpes virus. this issue is more serious then doctors make it out to be. & HIV kills, so why can’t someone find it in their heart to change ppls lives? it would make a great impact on the wrld. this is the breakthrough we need & I know its out there so why is it taking YRS 2 reach us? its not fair to the ones that are suffering from this hideous disease. it causes emotional stress & stress kills as well. I think something needs to be done about this issue & A CURE NOT A TREATMENT NEEDS TO BE FOUND! everyday a new treatment is found, we have enough treatments, we need a cure now! plz somebody find a cure so that you can change lives & make a difference in this wrld! my other issue is that this particular disease hides out n the nerves, well if a cure is found would it cause some type of nerve damage?

    January 5, 2010 at 11:35 am Reply
  119. Anonymous #

    I’ve read your comment and understood that you’ve a good relationship. I want to know how you manage your relationship. Whenever there is intimate moment when you have lesion would you refuse her and wait until it’s fully healed? Put a condom on and prey that it doesn’t transmit?

    I also want to understand about re-occurrence. Is it normal for it to come back almost once a month.

    January 7, 2010 at 7:30 am Reply
  120. Anonymous #

    Id just like to say thankyou to all of your replies. I have not returned to the webpage for a few weeks and really did not expect any replies what so ever, so they mean so so much.

    I am still finding it very hard to cope with and still have not spoken to the boy who has potentially ruined my life. I know sex is not everything but at my age I just feel as if i have had so much taken away from me, or I guess I could say so much freedom taken away from me.

    At times I just find it easier to even try to trick myself into believing I am not infected, which I understand can sound ridiculous but at this point in time I find it the easiest way.

    When I was diagnosed I already had an idea it would be Herpes and had an idea it was not curable but was not certain, I mentioned this to the doctor and he assured me it was.

    I find myself very confused and therefore I have asked my mum to take me to the doctors and get tested for anything else and to get so many questions answered, for now Im just hoping this will help me dealing with this horrible thing.

    Again thankyou all so so much, xxxxx

    January 12, 2010 at 1:43 pm Reply
  121. Anonymous #

    honey there are many ppl who suffer from this hideous disease & we would all love to imagine that we don’t have it. I mean I know exactly what you mean, I don’t put it in my head that I don’t have it but I do try not to spend most of my time thinkn bout it all day. but all the while I spend a lot of time on the net searching and findn facts about a future cure for this disease. I believe in my heart that one will be found sooner then we think, if they already haven’t found one. it’s all bout the $ honey…& it’s so unfair to the many ppl who suffer from this. all we want is our lives back, is that to much to ask for? & the fact that they are coming out with a vaccine that only helps women from being infected & not men is so unfair as well! can’t men get this disease? aren’t there men out there now suffering from this disease? YES! so is it to much to ask for when I say we need a herpes vaccine that will protect both men & women?! what is the world comin to? the things that go on in this world today are so horrible, it’s a shame! & why offer blood tests that are meant to find this disease in ppl but many ppl have false negative & the only way you will know is when you find out from an outbreak. many ppl carry this disease & have no clue that they have it. its so sad cause while doctors or ppl say its not life threatening I however say that it is, anytime you can contract HIV from these lesions that come along wit the HSV virus. so I say the pharmaceutical industry need 2 get off this high horse that they’re all on & release this cure, cause I kno damn well one has been found by now. someone needs 2 find it in their heart to find a cure for this horrible disease that has taken control over many ppl’s lives! plz…if yal can find a vaccine for the swine flu as quick as yal did den what is taking so long to find a vaccine or better yet a cure for herpes? this will only get worse & more & more ppl will continue gettn affected. so stp this disease in its tracks with a cure!!!! WE DON’T WANT OR NEED ANYMOR TREATMENTS OR SUPPRESORS FOR THIS DISEASE, WE WOULD LIKE A CURE & SOON! NOT IN ANOTHER 5YRS CUZ I KNOW IT DOESN’T TAKE THAT LONG, BEING THAT YAL HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING FOR A CURE ALL THESE YRS I THINK YAL SHOULD BE DAMN CLOSE TO FINDIN ONE BY NOW! to everyone who suffer from this jus keep god in your prayers & keep your spirits high! keep prayin as well…our day will come when a cure is found! don’t give up jus yet…I kno one is comin!

    January 15, 2010 at 7:19 pm Reply
  122. Anonymous #

    I have the virus that was sexually contracted. However this is not just a STD as i have passed it to my children through kissing them on the lips like mums do, not knowing i had the virus. I cant tell anyone, this is causing me severe anxiety and i dont know what way to turn. My children and I were all healthy until their father brought it back to our home. This virus has severe consiquences that makes me feel like leaving this world. Someone needs to listen.

    February 4, 2010 at 2:52 am Reply
  123. Anonymous #

    I feel ya pain, I mean I kno as a mother this has brought terrible pain to you & has made u feel like you ruined their lives…I do agree that someone needs 2 listen…this disease is takin ova the world & it hurts because ppl have it & have no clue that they do which is y it gets spreaded…this has gone on lng enuf & we need a breakthru ASAP!

    February 5, 2010 at 7:16 pm Reply
  124. Anonymous #

    My daughter has had tiny cracks inside her lower lips a few times since she was a small baby, but I put it down to sun, food etc as she also has skin problems and allergies. She hasn’t had it for over a year and a half, but got it again earlier this month and it looked like tiny little blisters. My son got the same a few days later (as it is impossible to keep them separated). Then my daughter caught a particularly bad cold, and got what looked like a pimple under her nose. She kept on rubbing her nose with her little wrists, and a few days later she had tiny blisters on her arms. She also has one on her leg and one on her thigh. They are really tiny. I’ve had two doctors look at her, both which said that it is not herpes and even if it was it would be the type 1 strain. Now, me and my husband are bot type 2 positive, not type 1. We never let anyone kiss her (because we were scared she would contract HSV). We never had a babysitter for her until she was at least two years old. I never left her with anyone, not even her dad, for 11 months (while I was breastfeeding) so nothing could have happened to her that shouldn’t have happened. We wash all our underwear etc separate from the kids stuff, wash hands etc. I am asymptomatic, my husband has a few outbreaks per year. I never thought it could transmit via kissing, not the type 2 virus. The scary thing is that all doctors say that is a sexually transmitted disease, and should she test positive we would have to be reported. Imagine that, not only have you passed it onto your child, you will be accused of sexually molesting them. I understand that they have to, as there are children out there that are being abused, but my children are more important to me than the ground I walk on. Me and their dad would never let anything happen to them. We ahven’t had them tested, out of fear that it would come back positive. There is still a remote chance that my husband has a HSV 1 infection as well, so I’ve sent him for a blood test. If that comes back positive, I can hopefully convince myself that it is a HSV 1 rather than a 2 that they’ve contracted. But I’m terrified. What do you tell your children? When do you tell them? How? Will they hate you forever?

    February 11, 2010 at 4:31 am Reply
  125. Anonymous #

    i’m 17, and was diagnosed on March 1, 2009 when i was 16 and it is now February 15 2010. I had been with one a person for around 2 months with no sex. After deciding to be with this person, my friends strongly disagreed and left my side. I had no friends and only this person i barely knew from only being with them for a short period of time. I confided in him and asked him if he had anything. Of course his automatic reaction was no. Thinking back to that day, if he had said yes i have no idea how i would have felt about it. But anyways, i believed him. We had sex all the time considering we were exclusive and i had no one else but him and had become very close to him. After awhile the relationship became toxic and he became very controlling knowing that i was weak because he was the only person i had since i had no friends. He controlled my life, and the only reason i stayed with him was because i was afraid to be alone. School was hard enough to go through with everyone hating youu, not to mention if i was even more alone by not having his support. so this went on for about 8 months until around the summer time when i finally made some new friends and built up the courage to shut him down and not let him treat me that way anymore. After breaking up with him i finally felt happy. That summer, summer of 2008, i met the guy i would later fall in love with. We hung out just as friends at first, but then he became my best friend and it didnt hurt that we both were sexually attracted to each other. We hooked up after a month or so. And i can honestly say i had never been more happier in my life. We had our ups and downs for around a year when after having sex one day i felt very weak and tired. This went on for around a week until i told my mom about it and she took me to the doctor. This was the most horrific and degrading experience of my life. I complained to the dpctor that i had some red sore on my privates. I allowed her to examine me but i told her that i was very very very sore and to please be gently. She proceeded to pull me apart and poke me with different objects i think were swabs. I groaned and began to cry because i was in so much pain. She acted like i was a slut when in all realism i had been completely monogumous with the guy i had fallen in love with. She left the room and i began to cry to my mom. IT was embaressing and hurtful that she didnt respect me and consider my feelings but instead did it with little care and really hurt me physically. She came back about 15 min later and asked my mom to leave the room, where she proceeded to tell me that i did in fact have herpes. I began to cry obviously and didnt want to be alone with this women who was looking at me like i was dirty and deserved what i got. I asked her to bring my mom in and i told her what i had. After a while the doctor left and me and my mom sat in the room holding each other as we cried and realized my life would never be the same and would be much harder from here on out. Still the scariest part was going home and having to tell my dad, who had no idea i had ever had sex since me and my mom both wanted to wait to tell him. He didnt talk to me for around 3 days wich was hard considering i already felt so alone. but next came the even harder part, keeping it from the person i loved. Now i know this sounds so wrong in every way. But i was 16 and he was 20. I wanted to tell him so bad because i knew he deserved to know but the fact is in highschool, people can ruin your life and they arent mature enough to deal with things like this that happen to people who you wouldnt even suspect. So i always had protected sex with him and this went on for another year, and we had been whatever we were for going on two years. When he met someone else, a girl who was his age and more for him. she was gorgeous and everything i guess i couldnt be for him, i had never felt so lifeless in my life. It was the worst thing in my life having to have the person you love tell you they wanted to be with someone else that they loved. I think about him constantly and yesterday was veltines day and that was the hardest. Being through so much in such a short amount of life has sobered me to so many situations. I want people to learn from me. I hear so many of my friends worry about being pregnant because they did not use a condom, i want to be able to say why would you let one small amount of time change your life! catching something that lasts a lifetime is not worth a couple minutes of pleasure. believe me i know this. I want them to never have to suffer from something that i do. I find the future to be bleak for me. Being as i have matured a lot over the last couple of years going through all that i have, i think about marriage and dating and having children. Which all seem so impossible. I’m trying to deal with this day by day, some days are better then others, and some days i just want to curl up in a ball in my bed and cry and cry. Im becoming a lot more used to it and have only had 2 outbreaks in the last year. I am very hopeful for someday having a cure, even though i am not sure there will be one soon. This efffects one out of every four women and that is mind boggling. I want someone to help all of us, this shouldnt be called genital herpes but rather the good person disease. 17 and awaiting something to help her.

    February 15, 2010 at 9:12 am Reply
  126. Anonymous #

    Hello, This is the first time I have commented on a forum for disease. I contracted genital herpes recently from my boyfriend whom I had been seeing for several months. I was devastated when the doctor told me what it was. All my life people I had known of people who had anything like that were treated and talked about like lepers, dirty and disgusting. To make it worse my boyfriend insisted that since his wife of 16 years never got it he didn’t believe he could have given it to me. He had a couple of sores on his buttocks he said his doctor had advised him were “shingles” and wore band aids to cover them. One night he didn’t because he considered them healed up and from sleeping against him skin to skin on the same uncovered spot, I got what I thought was a small bole on the spot that was against him while sleeping. Then came what I thought was a yeast infection and an irritated area I showed to my doctor. I have never had anything like the bole or the other spot before.

    The doctor told me that there was no doubt that my boyfriend had given it to me and he should just accept it and get over it (he was depressed about “the possibility” and in need of “his space”). Needless to say he eventually dumped me anyway. This was all hard enough to deal with in normal circumstances without having to also deal with the knowledge that I know had something that ensured future rejection. I had lived my life alone before and knew I could do it again if I had too, but I didn’t really want it to be because I had no choice or to eliminate any possibility of finding true love.

    The very next guy I dated was pushing and pushing for sex and I didn’t want to get that close to someone again unless I was sure they cared about me the person. I had made a decision to set some boundaries and insisting that they and myself be respected or else go back to celibacy as I had done in the past. The guy assured me he was really interested in me liked me very much and wanted to know why I was holding back. I was so scared but I had to tell the truth and couldn’t lie so I bit the bullet and confessed about the herpes. He was so wonderful about it because he had dated a girl for 11 months who had it and was just careful and didn’t have sex when she was infected. He said it as a mere inconvenience and no threat if you were careful. After they had broke up he had himself tested specifically and he was clean of the disease. I was so grateful that he didn’t reject me and make me feel like a scank that the euphoria of getting past that first dreaded talk and not being rejected after all lead me to going ahead and having sex with him before I was ready. The very next day Mr. Sweet and Into me started exhibiting all the classic characteristics of a guy who got what he wanted and was ready to move on. This is a long story, but I am writing it for other women out there who are just finding out about getting this disease and are trying to deal with the emotional affects upon their self esteem.

    I just started dating a new fellow whom I really, really like in every single way. I could so fall in love with this man and spend the rest of my life finally with a decent man who lives a decent life and not a commit-aphobic. But guess what? The attraction is so strong between us he is getting into the physically side of things faster than I am ready for emotionally. I had to keep backing off to cool things down and keep my self-respect over and over. I finally just went ahead and told him about the herpes. He was understanding at first and I was so relieved but wise to my own reactions to those emotions because of my previous experience. So although things got heated again, I backed off again and he respected that and cooled down. I need to know that I am worth getting to know.

    The problem is that now I am sitting here at home the next day alone waiting for “the call” that will or will not come saying he has had time to think about it and just doesn’t want to take the risk. His reactions to me at the end of our date and since then have been decidedly cooler than before we had “the talk”. I understand it is a lot to deal on behalf of someone he hasn’t known that long. I didn’t want to tell him til he got to know me as a person enough to be able know if I was worth the risk. I didn’t want to have sex anyway til I knew it was me as a person he cared for and not just sex. I hadn’t thought that someone who was as devote as he is would be pushing for sex that soon anyway so I was taken aback and was confused about what to do.

    Now because I felt pressured and am still in the beginnings of learning how to deal with this stigmatic disease, I am kicking myself for revealing too much too soon. I never would have had sex with him or considered it without first telling him the truth and giving him the choice I wasn’t afforded. I am getting really depressed now knowing I blew it and just assured the rejection I feared would come anyway.I have never been given a chance for love by this caliber of man before. And although I have now known him very long, I mourn the lose of a rare opportunity.

    I have struggled so hard to get to the point in my life where I could be positive and live each day one day at a time and now I feel like my future is already decided for me that all the positivity and mental effort towards not worrying about the future in the world just isn’t enough to keep free of this mind numbing depression. I don’t want to burden my friends and family (the few that know) with my problems with the deeps of my dark thoughts so instead I am here talking to others who may understand exactly how I feel.

    February 15, 2010 at 1:02 am Reply
  127. Anonymous #

    How could i donate?

    February 21, 2010 at 5:39 am Reply
  128. Anonymous #

    I found out that i had genital herpes when i was 18. I caught it from my fiance of 2 years. He had been cheating on me… getting herpes was how i found out. Every since then my life has been unfair. I’m to ashamed to tell any of my friends or family. I’ve sabotaged every relationship since then, ending it before it gets to serious, or after we have slept together and i freak out. All i want is to find someone to adore me, and to love me for everything i am. To have a family. Now i wonder if any of that is going to be possible. To have kids i will have to get a c section to avoid exposure. And more difficult, to find a man who’ll be willing to be with me knowing i have this ticking time bomb in my pants.
    I really wish these experts were looking more for a cure than a vaccine. Yes the prevention would make life a bit easier for us, not always having to be so nervous about spreading it. But in the long run, there has to be something better.

    February 21, 2010 at 6:32 am Reply
  129. Anonymous #

    Dear fighter:

    It must have been luck for me to give you these words of encouragement.

    You are not alone who has experienced the shame, the pain, the fear and torment of the Herpes virus family. For those unlucky ones, who doesn’t even have a fighting chance, died as young as infants. For us survivors, the road is tough and long. This scenario reminds me of the the movie 300. Our strong will is what’s keeping our dignity and mentally intact. While the world constantly sends its forces against our will power. Spears and arrows of loneliness, temptation, sadness, fear and forever changing events shot toward us. For people like us who have a conscience, knowingly avoiding contact to protect the ones we love, is so much more honorable than those devils what spread it a muck in the first place.

    If love is what you seek, it is not easily attained and treasured. Unless its someone who know the pain, the other half may not find it accepting until they have experienced it. If love is not attainable, there’s more in life that we can achieve. Success in carreer, in moral, in art, in everyday of your life, is more valuable for you at this moment in life than any other. There may be a cure that will come along a few days from now, a month and just another year. If you surrender now, you will never be able to taste the sweet taste of freedom. Freedom from the curse that have troubled you for so long.

    Stay strong my dear, for I am one of many that is fighting along your side under the same blue sky. Until our curse is lifted by the will of God and human ingenuity, we must live our lives to the fullest. I wish you a good journey on your path to true happiness.

    March 3, 2010 at 5:29 pm Reply
  130. Anonymous #

    Thank you.I really needed to “hear” those words of encouragement. The virus was a present to me about a year and a half ago by someone whom I dated for 4 years. He kept it a secret from me and it is something that is still hard to accept. I try to stay positive though and hope someday soon there is a breakthrough in the scientific world that will help tremendously. I was one of those people who didn’t find it accepting until having experienced it. Never judge. Take care & God Bless.

    March 14, 2010 at 8:50 pm Reply
  131. Anonymous #

    Umm in february 2010 i went to the doctors because i wasnt feeling well, i got a full check-up and everything, about a week later they had called me and told me that i had herpes on my cervix, i was sleeping with my boyfriend b 4 that without a condom and b 4 that ,me and him got checked and came back clean, so it obviously means that he cheated on me :( My stupid doctor also told me that it was nothing and that it is okay because he would give me medicine to get rid of it, after he said that i thought my life was back to normal and i had nothing to worry, and just today i thought that i wasnt feeling well again so i called health link and told them that i was in the doctors about 2 mnths ago for herpes on my cervix and than she broke the news and said that It doesnt go away :(
    i couldn’t stop crying and crying…i finally stopped now and decided to read everything on here, i used to look at these and wonder why ppl just wouldn’t wear protection, and now im here typing out a comment because i am diagnosed, i don’t want people to look at me like a gross girl who cant do anything right, and im very hurt that this has happened to me i feel like theres nothing for me to live for or be happy, its like i want to do drugs and stay high so it wont bug me as much. I hope that one day soon there really is a cure that will help us..and i hope and pray that i will get help. can someone please just say something that will help me feel alittle better.

    March 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm Reply
  132. Anonymous #

    You are the female version of me! My ex-girlfriend cheated on me and gave me the gift that keeps on giving. I’ve been on the verge of a nervous breakdown for months. The shame has totally killed me, and I haven’t been able to tell anyone due to the fear of being “outed”. I feel so alone.

    March 23, 2010 at 11:06 pm Reply
  133. Anonymous #

    From “dealing with finding out I have herpes and dating”:

    It does get better. I am on suppressive medication and haven’t had a breakout since I last posted. Also I met a sweet guy who doesn’t have a problem with it even though he doesn’t have it. It really is true that if they want a reason to break up with you or not get into a serious relationship with you they will use the herpes as an excuse, so the rejection would probably have happened anyway despite your disease. Not always, but often enough. If a guy is understanding and really like you and really is wanting something serious to last a lifetime, he will accept you with all your flaws and all your problems. They are few and far between, but that has always been so even without a disease to contend with. I know how you feel, I have been there and might go there again for all I know, but at least now I know there is hope after all.

    March 25, 2010 at 1:40 pm Reply
  134. Anonymous #

    I just found out I have HSV 1 around june or may 2009.
    I mean i got tested, i had no clue that herpes was there since i had no break outs, now i’ve had symptoms for about a week but they’re not really severe, it’s mostly the psychological factor i guess.

    I think the vaccine idea is great , i hope he at least goes through with the trials.

    March 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm Reply
  135. Anonymous #

    please explain how you get over that phase, after i found out i had herpes i know my life is ruined. I think that i am not as attractive anymore, and feel like nobody wants me. I am not that same jolly person that i was and alot of people tell me that which makes me feel even worst. Its just in my head 24/7 and i cant help it. I just want to be the girl I was before.

    April 5, 2010 at 9:18 pm Reply
  136. Anonymous #

    I completely Agree, I am only 19 years old, I found out the day after my 19th birthday that I had genital herpes. It completely changed who I am. I used to be the girl in the crowd that was always smiling, no matter what was going on. I used to laugh, and play, now I go to work, go to school, and hardly ever smile. I feel so degraded, and invaluable. How can you ever really have a real relationship? I read that one of you found a really great guy, and I appreciate the hope, but it really is hard to have hope for myself. I have had sex with less than 5 people…. 3 of which I dated for a very long time… How can you fall in love with someone and then tell them you have a disease like that? Why would anyone want to be with someone who could potentially ruin their life as you did yours? I have a very hard time dealing with this, maybe because it is so recent.. All I ever want to do is eat and sleep.. I think the over all trauma has made me depressed? Also, I was diagnosed with herpes by my doctor only looking at my Outbreak.. He did no cotton swab or blood test. I hear the blood test is inaccurate, how true is this? I was told it gives false positives and false negatives…?

    April 14, 2010 at 6:24 pm Reply
  137. Anonymous #

    i know it is real hard and i still havent been able to get over that phase. i am 19 as well and i feel the same way like no man is going to want to be with me. I am even scared to fall in love. i have had 2 outbreaks in the last month and it is real sad. I had a best friend that was diagnosed with herpes but she doesnt talk to me anymore for some reason and now that the doctors told me I have it it makes me sad and it makes me even sadder that now that we can relate to each other she is holding some grudge against me but fuck it. i would love some support or a friend with the same thing i have i think it would make me feel better. whats crazier is that i thought i was never going to get this disease, a disease that doctors dont give a shit about and that they dont continue to search for a cure they dont care :(

    April 14, 2010 at 10:02 pm Reply
  138. Anonymous #

    i know it is real hard and i still havent been able to get over that phase. i am 19 as well and i feel the same way like no man is going to want to be with me. I am even scared to fall in love. i have had 2 outbreaks in the last month and it is real sad. I had a best friend that was diagnosed with herpes but she doesnt talk to me anymore for some reason and now that the doctors told me I have it it makes me sad and it makes me even sadder that now that we can relate to each other she is holding some grudge against me but fuck it. i would love some support or a friend with the same thing i have i think it would make me feel better. whats crazier is that i thought i was never going to get this disease, a disease that doctors dont give a shit about and that they dont continue to search for a cure they dont care :(

    April 14, 2010 at 10:02 pm Reply
  139. Anonymous #

    I have had G Herpes for about 30 some years. You might say I haven given up on life. I won”t date and I live in a small town and everyone know e veryone So if there would be any research vaccine trials going on soon please let me know.

    I live in SW Mo, which is Carthage, Mo. Close to Springfield,Mo. Tulsa, Ok. and KC, Mo.

    Thanks for taking the time to read my comments.

    Patty

    April 18, 2010 at 4:39 pm Reply
  140. Anonymous #

    Hi there-
    I completely understand you and find myself in the same boat. The only difference is that I am still with the man who gave it to me even though I know I deserve more. I know I am trying to settle because of the fear of future rejection. How often do you get an outbreak? Did Mr. right ever call back? KIT-
    ~L

    April 18, 2010 at 8:08 pm Reply
  141. Anonymous #

    Im a 19 year old girl too…my boyfriend of three year cheated on me, gave me herpes n left me..its been two years and i havent heard a word from him since…and he is still with the other girl. he told me he would never leave me….I was/maybe am a beautiful blone blue blued princess who was athletic, happy, friends with evertone etc…you know the story…
    the doctor had no remorse. she looked at me and said “looks like herpes”, told the nurse to take my blood and left the room. i wanted to shoot that lady…i also wanted to find a gun in the cabinet to shoot myself. as bad as that sounds. i cryed…even tho i know i had to rewalk through the lobby….couldnt drive…couldnt think…i was fuckkked up. There was probily like 50 small white-ish looking puss pimple looking cankersores. that is exactly what it looked like. Canker sores….they hurt really bad too. like i would litterally put ice on it til it was numb. i got every flu like symptom they said i would after about 3 or 4 days after i slept with my cheating bf. it was crazy cuz all i woulda had to do was take back one day..one fuckin day…i think about it all the time ..ne way…couldnt work, play the last summer softball turnament, nothing…my dad was asking my mom y i was sick n shit…she never told him because she swore she wouldn,t…i told my mom because shes my mom n will always love me. im glad i did…i talk to her about it alot and it feels good to talk about it.
    i thought my life was over….the last two weeks i thought about suiside everyday and did not see any purpose of life…sometimes i still dont know but i feel alot better with myself. i was put on anti-depressents n went to counciling alot…i will never know if it helped b/c idk what u r supost to be like on them but i still hated life.
    i thought i would never date again..and i hated boys n became very concsious of the word “herpes”…it gets said alot actually..and always jokingly..it kills me..but i usually laugh alot or something…i wish everyone with herpes had a sign for only me to see so i would see what other types of pple suffer..only they know what it is like and how i feel. i feel like the only one…in the world..for real.
    neway…a very nice boy really tryed hanging out with me..i got to know him for a very long time…he was sweet and forreal…one night i got the guts 2 tell him. i asked him if he knew what “abreva” was for…he said yea…then i said i have that problem..but down there…i told him i just am trying 2 b honest n 4real wit you because i really like you and want to be in an honest, trustworthy relationship….he told me he loved me no matter what..and even after i broke up with him, he loves n and loves being around me….I talk about it 2 him all the time but he says he honestly doesnt think about it…it is releiving…but i never thought ne1 would EVER be like that…
    my other boy- bestfriend said if i would date him, he would except him (only those 2 boys know..confide in pple that you KNOW love u no matter what..and they will not look at u differenly)
    overall now i havent really gotten ne outbreaks except for a few red deep pimple looking cytes on my booty cheeks…i hate them but i rarely take meds..even though i have veltrex just incase “down there” feels funny
    i hate the fact I am Diseased….but i know it is me now..and i am a changed person..its my 2nd year of college…i dont go out n party n i dont make new friends…i hate the boys here..they r tools n only lookin for sex…i find sex to be just handed out like candy here..it discuses me..and i always worry about others getting STDs..actually..i wonder how all of the OTHER pple that have so much sex DONT get stds…or maybe they do…i have no idea…makes me wonder…it also makes me look like an angel here because i dont sleep around.. pple call me the good girl..but i feel more like the consealed girl…the girl who can never really tell pple who she is…I would love 2 tell someone about me n say ..yeah im a changed person..i became more responcible and had to grow up..i had to love myself..but had 2 hate myself b4 that love came…i wanna say I have herpes and went through litterally hell and back with about 2 years of my life…when i was 18 and 19 years old…i dont understand how i could get herpes from someone i loved and trusted…my moral is DONT trust anyone….if u have doubts…u r right…if u think you have it..i almost garentee u do…it will change ur life..but dont let it kill u! because ultimently it is mind over matter…it takes time…but once u are comfortable with yourself the battle against ur own self gets easier.
    no1 will understand y i am who i am…but ur real friends will stick by ur side. and if they do not…u will b fine alone…i usta be always around pple..but now i love being alone…no1 to judge u…and it gets better when you stop judging urself.
    be strong. herpes is just a gross word…dont let it define you…let it be a learning tool to critique and redifine urself.

    April 20, 2010 at 3:50 pm Reply
  142. Anonymous #

    I have herpes but haven’t had an outbreak for a while sooner or later this will happen I thought it was the end of my life too I got it off a guy who I now wish id never met. . . But it really is not the end of your life. . . . I still go about my daily life exactly how I used to I’m 20 going on 21 . . . . I have a boyfriend who loves me. . . But he doesn’t know about the herpes but I am asymptomatic. . . And have been for a while now. . . I don’t feel the need to tell him because if you are careful then you won’t spread it . . . I haven’t and have been with him for a year and half. . . . You are still the same people as you were before you got the virus. You should never let this get you down there are more people with herpes than you think. . . In america alone there are over 55 million people with the virus and with it spreading well there’s just going to be more and more so you are not alone. . . Go out and live your life the way you want to!!! :-)

    April 23, 2010 at 3:14 am Reply
  143. Anonymous #

    When Will it be ready? I’ve been wait and wait and wait…

    April 25, 2010 at 7:43 pm Reply
  144. Anonymous #

    Guy and Gals,
    As I read and read all these responses they make me angry. I tested positive for HSV2 after ending a relationship that lasted 3 years. My girlfriend in the relationship had had sex twice in her life(25 years old) before meeting me. Talk about luck. Neither of us have ever had any symptoms. Fortunately, I have an incredible physician. After testing positive(which even she stated was borderline), she sat me down and told me “herpes” is a dirty word because of how society looks at the term and not at the disease. She even told me some practices don’t inform their patients if they test positive due to the emotional impact it can have on ones life, they would simply rather treat symptoms when they occue. TO EVERYONE: Herpes of both types is a very common disease. A disease that is nothing more than cold sores. HSV1 virus lives and resides in the mouth tissue. HSV2 lives and resides in the ganglion at the base of the spine, which just happends to be close enough to where it counts. I know some of us have symptoms and monthly episodes that can be bad, what I’m telling you is that don’t let it ruin your life. The emotional stigma of these “cold sores” causes much more pain than the physical side. Herpes is a bad word because of society and std classes in elementary school. They are cold sores that come and go in two places on the body. The best thing you can do is treat them, have safe sex, and be responsible about it. Don’t let it ruin your life, it’s not worth it. There are 50 million people in this country (that we know of) that have it. It’s common. Check out positivesingles.com or other dating sites that allow you to be open about your status. We’re human, humans always find a way.
    Be happy and live, don’t hide. Treat it and be honest. Good luck and please don’t beat yourself up, how can you protect yourself against something you can’t see? My ex-girlfriend was a virgin when she graduated college, had protected sex twice with two people and got it. I love her and I know shes a good person, it’s a commonplace disease and sooner or later it will be cured. For now, treat it and be safe.

    April 27, 2010 at 11:48 am Reply
  145. Anonymous #

    I have a 2 year old son and as his mother I am terrified of kissing him touching him changing his diaper giving him baths so not to pass him anything. If I would ever in a million years thought this would happen I would’ve been celibate for the rest of my life because each day goes by that I cant kiss my son or take our little daily baths together breaks my heart into a million pieces over and over again. This is the worst feeling in the world. I pray a CURE is made available soon enough to where I can still provide my son with lots of kisses and hugs and not be terrified. THere is another thing that just plagues me. Herpes infected individuals are 2 to 3 x’s more likely to contract hiv when in contact with it than non infected persons. Could you imagine not only giving your child something like this but making them 2 to 3 more times susceptible to contract hiv if in contact with it. I know a vaccine is on the horizon, but what about a cure. When my son gets booboos and tells me to kiss it, I cant. I immediately just start crying, hug him and tell him mommy’s sorry baby, Im so sorry.

    April 29, 2010 at 6:59 am Reply
  146. Anonymous #

    That is really messed up not to tell the person you are with that you have a disease that they could catch and that would alter the rest of their life! i was honest with someone about having HSV 1, and ended up getting HSV 2 from her- she did not tell me until a few days later that she had herpes and was having an outbreak around the time we slept together. And in case you weren’t aware the HSV 2 outbreaks are a lot worse. You owe it to the person you’re with to be completely honest and upfront about your status so they can make an educated decision about whether to be in a relationship with you. Absolute honesty and respect for one another will go a long way toward having a healthy relationship.

    May 3, 2010 at 9:51 pm Reply
  147. Gina #

    No, it is true… 1 in four sexually active americans has Herpes

    June 22, 2010 at 12:22 pm Reply
  148. Dr. I.D. Reynolds #

    actually, it is closer to 170 million persons in the US afflicted with STDs in general, and over 1 in 5 afflicted with herpes in particular

    June 24, 2010 at 11:26 pm Reply
  149. chris #

    i have herpes too. i feel your pain. can we talk? ccscriptboy@gmail.com

    October 4, 2010 at 8:22 am Reply
  150. Anonymous #

    I know how you feel… I have had this for 16 years and I feel as badly today as I did back then. Although I don’t break out but once an year and oddly enough since I have type 1 it isn’t visible like having it on the lips.. BUT I have not broken out with a odd version called Herpes whitlow and its on the fingers.. go figure… so I am dealing with it all once again.. and yes it makes you want to kill yourself.. somebody does need to listen..

    November 27, 2010 at 6:13 pm Reply

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