Absolute Space has no direction, or geometry (Euclidean or Riemmanian) it is all one, there is no part of absolute space. When you speak of coordinates or references you are not speaking of space itself you are speaking of points or lines within space - not absolute space itself. A body always has two energies - one vector (kenetic) relative to other bodies and one scalar (inertial mass) relative to absolute space.
The "laws of nature" are the frame work of the universe and determine its personality. They create "absolute space" and everything it contains. Absolute space can only exist within the domain of these laws, where the "laws of nature" end - absolute space ends. This is the limit of the extent of the universe. If space is expanding (highly unlikely), it is only because the laws of nature are expanding into the void.
The two types of energy we are concerned with here are: motion/energy and mass/energy.
Motion/energy of a body is its momentum relative to other bodies,(Mo=MV). Mass/energy of a body is its energy level relative to absolute space. Mass/energy is manifested as a body's "inertial mass" or its "space energy level". Bodies do not move relative to absolute space, no motion is involved.
A proton's rest mass is variable, depending on its "space energy level" relative to absolute space. A proton's "rest" mass in the outlying area of a spiral galaxy will be greater then a proton's "rest" in the slower central part of the galaxy. Also a proton's inertial "rest" mass in a galaxy that is at a higher (or lower) energy level relative to absolute space, then is ours, will be greater (or lower) than a proton in our galaxy.
Isaac Newton thought that absolute space was a distinguished frame of reference that could show bodies to be truly moving or truly at rest. - He was half right, all bodies relative to absolute space are motionless (at rest). He did not realize that nothing moves relative to space itself as was later indicated by the Michelson/Morley experiment.
M/M could find no evidence of a change in the speed of light no matter what direction their apparatus was aimed. This is an indication that the earth is motionless relative to absolute space and light will travel at the same rate no matter which direction it travels. It also indicated that there was no aether or aether wind. Light needs no medium to travel through (other then absolute space). When a body emits a photon only the body and its space energy level are considered - the motion of the body relative to other bodies is not considered.
Don Hamilton
Refer: http://novan.com/mind.htm - (The MIND of Mankind - Part 2)
Comments
Huh?
November 17, 2007 by Gadfly, 2 years 1 week ago
Comment: 26050
Einstein's work makes sense.
I don't understand anything about Don's answer.
Would someone other than Don tell us what the heck he is trying to say?
This bite of realism brought to you by "Gadfly."
Movement in absolute space?
November 16, 2007 by Gadfly, 2 years 1 week ago
Comment: 26031
Don, you declare as fact that:
"absolutely nothing moves, relative to absolute space"
Then how can things move relative to one another if none of them moves relative to absolute space?
Putting it another way, how can "absolute space" be absolute when it is stationary relative to bodies that move with respect to one another? Does that mean that it is not stationary with respect to a body that is stationary relative to it? What does stationary mean in that case?
Fred is right, by the way, that Earth's frame of reference is not inertial. Is "absolute space" then non-inertial as well?
This bite of realism comes to you from "Gadfly"
Re: Movement in absolute space.
November 16, 2007 by donzzz, 2 years 1 week ago
Comment: 26043
Gadfly says - "Then how can things move relative to one another if none of them moves relative to absolute space?"
Don says - (Motion is a comparative phenomenen. To measure a body's motion it must be compared to another body or reference. Its position must be changing, relative to something. When you think of motion you must always qualify it by saying , "relative to what"?? All motion is relative to something, but when you compare the motion of a body with absolute space your comparing the body's movement with universal emptiness - a perfect vacuum. (no matter or energy is considered.) There is no reference to compare it too.
Einstein said, "the motion of one object or wave can only be measured relative to another." Einstein went a step farther. He said that, "the nonexistence of the ether means that the universe has no absolute frame of reference".
This is where he went wrong. Although there is no motion involved with a body relative to absolute space, there is the mass/energy of the body to be considered. Mass/energy is the body's energy level relative to absolute space (its space energy level). This energy is manifested as a body's inertial mass.
A body has no motion, relative to absolute space, (it is motionless) but it does have an inertial mass that varies with its energy level relative to absolute space (its space energy level). Evidence of this takes place when a proton's inertial mass increases as its velocity relative to the cyclotron increases.)
Don Hamilton
http://novan.com/nat-laws.htm
http://novan.com/solar.htm
bug,bags but the fish man is the best
November 15, 2007 by Spicychinchilla, 2 years 1 week ago
Comment: 26011
Well, The guy that started to talk about football instead of the ghost was real dumb and funny, the people that think that is a BUG are typical losers that can't come up with their own ideas, it could not be a bug or a bag if the man watched it with his eyes too, lol. duh ~ but the best of all ! was the moron that suggested this is a FISH ! lol, that guy gets 1st prize in being this blogs biggest idiot.
Absolute nonsense!
November 15, 2007 by Fred Bortz, 2 years 1 week ago
Comment: 26010
Don writes re the Michelson Morley experiment:
The boldface clause is incorrect.
I promised myself not to get involved in long discussions of misguided science, but I guess I just have to speak my piece and leave.
So here's my one comment on the discredited idea of absolute space, a.k.a. the ether. There is no such thing. It is not necessary to explain the universe as we know it. All motion is relative. There is no privileged frame of reference. And even if there was such a frame, it is nonsense to assume that it is the frame of an insignificant planet of a slightly larger than average star in an ordinary galaxy, which is what the bold words are stating.
The following is from pp.12-13 of my Physics: Decade by Decade (Twentieth-Century Science series, Facts On File, 2007).
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I will not reply further. But such awful misinterpretation of centuries of understanding gets my goat.
No, Don, our planet is not stationary in a privileged frame of reference. In fact, it is not stationary in any inertial frame of reference. The work of Copernicus, Galileo, and Newton tells us that. You are not only rejecting Einstein but also several centuries of science before that!
Fred Bortz -- Science and technology books for young readers (www.fredbortz.com) and Science book reviews (www.scienceshelf.com)
Re: Absolute Space
November 15, 2007 by donzzz, 2 years 1 week ago
Comment: 26026
Fred said - Some people interpreted the failure to detect such differences as evidence that the ether does not exist. Einstein went a step farther. He said that the nonexistence of the ether means that the universe has no absolute frame of reference. The motion of one object or wave can only be measured relative to another, but not with respect to the universe itself.
Don says - (Einstein was wrong that "the universe has no absolute frame of reference". - He failed to take into account that the although the motion/energy of a body relative to absolute space is zero (0), the mass/energy of the body is not. The body's mass/energy depends on its energy level relative to absolute space. (its "space energy level"). The higher the "space energy level" the greater is the body's inertial mass. Although there is no motion involved, relative to absolute space, the body's inertial mass/energy level does vary with its "space energy level".)
Fred said - Einstein's view of relativity was a natural extension of earlier scientific thought. At first, people viewed the Earth as the unmoving center of everything. Then they realized that Earth was one planet moving in a larger solar system. The natural human reaction was then to place the Sun at the center of the universe. But by Einstein's time, astronomers could tell that the stars were moving with respect to one another. They no longer had reason to think that the Sun -- or any other star -- occupied a special place in the universe. From that perspective, it was easier to give up the idea of an absolute frame of reference.
Don says - (The astronomers were right about the planets or stars not having a special place in the universe! The fact is absolutely nothing moves, relative to absolute space. Everything ( galaxies, stars, atoms, photons, etc.) are motionless relative to absolute space, BUT their inertial mass/energy level relative to absolute space does vary. - Like Einstein said, "the motion of one object or wave can only be measured relative to another.")
Fred said - That led Einstein to state this basic principle of physics: If two observers are moving at constant velocity with respect to one another, neither observer's frame of reference is preferable to the other's. It is impossible to make any observation that determines that one is moving while the other is absolutely at rest in the universe.
Don says - ( They are both moving relative to each other BUT they are both motionless, relative to absolute space.)
That simple principle produces some surprising consequences. As noted in the Introduction, Maxwell's equations predict the existence of electromagnetic waves that travel at a definite speed. That means that two observers, regardless of their relative motion, must measure the same speed for a beam of electromagnetic radiation.
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I will not reply further. But such awful misinterpretation of centuries of understanding gets my goat.
No, Don, our planet is not stationary in a privileged frame of reference. In fact, it is not stationary in any inertial frame of reference. The work of Copernicus, Galileo, and Newton tells us that. You are not only rejecting Einstein but also several centuries of science before that!
Don says - (Sorry about your goat Fred - I'm sure glad you don't have the power that the Pope had back in the days of Galileo, when the church "knew" they had all the right answers.)
Don Hamilton http://novan.com/energies.htm