Most denizens of the interwebs (at least of this corner of the interwebs) will have heard the announcement that the 2009 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine will be given to Elizabeth Blackburn, Carol Greider and Jack Szostak for their work on telomeres - the structures found at the ends of human chromosomes. You may already have read a little about the research behind it (if not, the NobelPrize.org press release is a very good place to start) so I’ll try to keep the background as short as possible. What I would like to do here is to explain the assertions that “cancer research has also benefited from the Nobel-winning trio's work”. If you haven't already done so, I also recommend reading "Understanding Cancer Part 1"
Telomeres are necessary for several reasons, among them to act as ‘padding’ during cell duplication. Every time a linear DNA molecule is replicated it loses a few base pairs from the ends (the reason why is quite interesting, see this description of the end replication problem). The telomeric sequence is simply “TTAGGG” (in vertebrates) repeated several thousand times so it doesn’t matter when some sequence is deleted. But, I hear you cry, how is this important for cancer?
Most cells in the body do not replicate. A typical tissue, such as skin, has a thin layer of stem cells that divide to produce more stem cells, as well as cells that will differentiate into skin cells. These cells divide a few more times until they are ‘terminally differentiated’. In the case of skin that means that they are filled with keratin and die, and when they reach the surface they are sloughed off. In other tissues the non-replicating terminally differentiated cells have different functions, for example as nerve cells or muscle cells. Thus the only cells that need to replicate infinitely are stem cells (and germ line cells, the cells that become sperm and eggs), so they express a protein called telomerase which adds extra copies of the repetitive sequences to the ends of chromosomes.
Those of you who’ve read my first ‘Understanding Cancer’ post – and anyone who knows a little bit about cancer biology – will see why this system is a major inhibitor of carcinogenesis: when a cell starts to over-proliferate it can only divide a certain number of times before the telomeres are fully eroded. In order to continue dividing it has to accumulate further mutations that render it immortal. These mutations have to be very specific, making them rarer: there are thousands of ways to make a cell grow faster, but only very few ways to lengthen its telomeres. Around 90% of cancers (remember: a cancer is, by definition, a collection of cells that have jumped this hurdle) have mutations that cause them to produce telomerase. Most of the remaining cases of cancer have recruited a normal DNA repair mechanism to lengthen the chromosomes by a process called ALT (Alternative Lengthening of Telomeres).
On a short side note: when telomeres were first elucidated it was thought by some that we’d found the key to aging. Unfortunately upregulating telomerase in an attempt to stay young only leads to more cancer, because you’ve removed one of the hurdles that a nascent tumour has to surmount.
Does anyone see the further significance here? All cancers have to overcome a certain problem, and most of them do it in exactly the same way. This makes telomerase a very attractive target for new chemotherapeutic drugs or other types of intervention, and the field is bustling with new ideas. A few clinical trials are showing progress, using gene therapy and small molecule inhibitors (a.k.a. drugs): for a fuller account read this nice open-access review. The approach that strikes me as the most fascinating – and promising – is the idea of vaccinating against telomerase. Almost all cells in the body constantly chew up a sample of their own proteins and display them to the cells of the immune system as a defence against viruses. If you can tell the immune system to attack cells that express telomerase (not quite as straightforward as one might think) it will specifically attack cancer cells. This should be more specific (read: cause less side effects) than most anti-cancer therapies because most drugs attack all rapidly-replicating cells, whereas this would only target immortal cells, and just like you may have learnt from comic books: immortality is a very rare privilege.
- by Colin Hockings. Blue-Genes is run by three recent graduates and more commonly found at http://www.blue-genes.net. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter
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bogus; telomerase does not cause cancer
October 7, 2009 by Anonymous, 7 weeks 21 hours ago
Comment: 45305
Upregulating telomerase does not lead to cancer. There is no scientific evidence of this, only speculation. TA Sciences is offering a telomerase promoter supplement, TA-65. If they were causing people cancer, I think people would know about this by now. Here are few links showing this:
"We have shown that while telomerase does not cause cancer (which is caused by mutations in oncogenes and tumor suppressor genes), the continued presence of telomerase enables cancer cells to maintain telomere length, providing them with indefinite replicative capacity."
http://www.geron.com/technology/telomerase/telomerase.aspx
"Unfortunately, the strong link between telomerase and cancer has led some to confuse telomerase activation with cancer, and others to overstate the cancer risk of telomerase activation therapies for degenerative diseases."
http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v21/n4/abs/1205076a.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7037691/2-Telomerase-Does-Not-Cause-Cancer
The evidence is that telomerase repairs telomeres, which in turn leads to cell stability. Cellular genetic stability actually *prevents* cancer from forming. Telomerase is not a carcinogenic substance. Cells that are already cancerous do use the telomerase mechanism to continue dividing, but telomerase is not what causes the cells to become cancerous in the first place. Ergo, there is no evidence that normal cells become cancerous solely because they are exposed to telomerase, which is naturally present in low doses in all cells.
Visit the telomerase blog:
http://www.telomerase.org/
Aging...
October 9, 2009 by BlueGenes, 6 weeks 6 days ago
Comment: 45351
Aging is a much more complicated kettle of fish. I can assure you that there is no simple relationship between telomere length and aging, even at a cellular level. At the level of an organism it's much more complicated: for example mice have long telomeres and short lifespans, we have short telomeres and a long lifespan. There is one thing that everyone in the field agrees upon, and that's that upregulating telomerase will not prevent aging (at least: everyone who doesn't already have a financial stake in the idea). It may be useful in other cases, such as the PNAS paper you linked to (marked 'Telomerase Does Not Cause Cancer'), where they were trying to extend the life of vascular smooth muscle cells taken from patients with a view to building up artificial veins and re-implanting them. You'll notice that at the end of the paper they're still not convinced by their own experiments and suggest that transient expression would be best (and I agree - some of their assays were a little iffy: who measures the doubling time of cells in culture as a measure of tumorigenesis? Who makes the conclusion that their cells are not predisposed to cancer by comparing with HEK293 cells (their positive controls) which have been in culture for like 30 years?). I'm afraid I didn't bother to read the other paper, but I assume it was similarly cherry-picked. It is very difficult in science to prove a negative (e.g. upregulating hTERT/telomerase DOESN'T cause cancer), because you have to be right every single time for anyone to believe you, and people will quite simply assume you just didn't find what you were looking for. It's even harder to convince people that telomerase doesn't cause cancer when proper in vivo experiments show that it does. For example this paper where they expressed mTERT in mouse basall keratinocytes (skin cells to you and me), and found an increased sensitivity to chemical carcinogenesis, and this paper where they created transgenic mice expressing mTERT in several tissues, and found tumours in those tissues.
Interestingly, TA sciences (who you appear to be speaking for, although my apologies if you're not) says that there IS a risk of cancer on their FAQ, although they brush it off as 'theoretical'. They have a very interesting website. There is excruciating detail about the purification of their product, TA-65 (N.B. a search for TA-65 doesn't find any results on PubMed), repeating over and over again how important and science-y it is, but as soon as it starts talking about the mode of action there's little asterisks after every claim. Ah! I thought when I first saw this, the footnote will be a nice reference to back up the claim! Unfortunately not. It reads:
After failing to find any evidence that it does what it's supposed to, I checked over at Geron.com, Geron being the pharmaceutical company that TA Sciences claims invented and tested TA-65, and there's no mention of it. Not to sound like a grumpy arsehole, but I don't like Geron either. On their telomere page (that dear Mr. Anonymous linked to too) they keep saying "We and our collaborators have shown that telomeres...are key genetic elements involved in the regulation of the cellular aging process", "Our work has shown that each time a normal cell divides, telomeres shorten" and "Our work and that of others has shown that telomerase is not present, or is present at very low levels, in most normal cells". Woah there sombrero, you can't take the all the credit for that you douche! You may have shown these things to be true, but I bet you weren't the first to do so so you can't claim these discoveries as your own.
Anyway, back to TA-65, it would only take a few days to isolate some primary cells, add TA-65, and do a western blot for telomerase. It's not like it would be difficult to get a bit of proof that your product does something interesting. That in itself would probably be publishable, and other telomerase researchers would probably be quite pleased, because then they can do their upregulating telomerase experiments twice: once by added a new telomerase gene by transduction, and once by using TA-65.
Oh, and one final note. The 'clinical trial' run by TA Sciences in 2005. No thanks. I tend to disregard the evidence of unpublished, unregistered (admittedly I only searched clinicaltrials.gov, but I get the feeling a longer search would have been fruitless) trials with groups of 6-12 self-selected participants with no mention of randomisation. Having reached this conclusion I decided to skim through the 'report' anyway and found, to my suprise that all due care had been taken to ensure that the statistics were as clean and relevant as possible with no possible way for anyone to accuse them of measuring lots of things and shaking the data until they found something with low p-values. Sorry. That was another paper I read. No, in this report they decided, upon looking at the numbers and finding that it made no difference whether the patients took 2 or 4 pills to put the groups together. Um...do they know that they're not allowed to do that? I don't know in what world they're living, but suddenly they're allowed to talk about p-values of 0.2 and 'trends' and p-values of 0.1 as 'significant'. WTF??. I dread to think what they mean by "We systematically took multiple approaches to the data set". Actually no, I know exactly what they mean. They mean that they pushed the data around an excel sheet until nice numbers popped up.
I think I may have gotten into a little bit too much of a rant there, but that's what happens when people are so confidently, blithely, mistaken
Telomerase does not cause cancer
October 10, 2009 by Anonymous, 6 weeks 5 days ago
Comment: 45374
The post would not have been anonymous if your posting mechanism offered the opportunity to say who I am. I did offer a link to my blog, www.telomerase.org
Perhaps lengthening telomeres with things like TA-65 doesn't lengthen lifespan, but maybe it will in the end. If they had to go through FDA approval by making claims, it would be 2020 before we would see a product on the market. As it is, they decided to call themselves a nutritional supplement, qualify everything they say for the FDA, and get on the market earlier. I though that was pretty clear from their site.
The evidence is that longer telomeres are associated with longer life. The University of California has shown a number of different reasons for having short telomeres, including chronic perceived stress and low vitamin D levels. Maybe writing blogs, being angry, and cursing reduces telomere length. There's a study for you to do!
Yes, you had a long rant, but basically your core response to the claim that telomerase does not cause cancer was a couple of studies on mice. You yourself say that mice and men are different in that one has long telomeres and short lives, and the other short and long, respectively. Not everything human can be tested in mice. That is why we *always* have human trials after animal trials. If you want to be convincing at all, you had better find a study with human cells in which telomerase caused cancer. I gave several links; not it's your turn.
Why is it that we don't all die of testicular cancer or ovarian cancer in childhood? Those cells have telomerase turned on normally. Care to explain that? And how about the fact that ESCs have high levels of telomerase to enable them to replicate and produce the human organism. Why are we not all born with cancer and die soon afterwards? The reason is that telomerase alone is not a carcinogen.
You do provide some humor. You pretend to be Mr. Skeptical and Mr. Reason, but as soon as the words "douche" and "WTF" appeared in your post, I knew that you were not really serious.
Tedium
October 13, 2009 by BlueGenes, 6 weeks 2 days ago
Comment: 45445
Firstly: telomerase is not a carcinogen (in the classic sense). The lack of telomerase in non stem/germ cells is simply an extra barrier to the development of cancer. Remove the barrier, you get more cancer developing. It's the same sort of principle as a car seat-belt: removing the seat-belt doesn't cause injury or death, but it increases the risk of injury or death. If certain circumstances happen (e.g. mutations in tumour supressor genes etc. etc. etc.), that are bound to happen occasionally by chance, you'll be pretty glad your cells can't replicate too many times.
Next: you can't do telomerase experiments with humans because the only situation that's important is in vivo. I.e. you need to change the laws, dispense with ethics and become pretty damned evil, then you need to do a decade or two of solid research into human cloning, and then you may be able to generate humans with systemically upregulated telomerase. Then you can watch them die of cancer.
Upregulating telomerase in a cell line and doing in vitro assays or injecting into nude mice isn't going to help. That's like putting a people in a car with no seat-belts on a big fluffy mattress to see whether they suffer injury or death. While I admit that a systemically upregulated telomerase mouse model is not perfect, I don't see any reason to doubt the results.
It is unfair (read: wrong) to dismiss the experiments that I raised purely because you don't like the results. I have an explanation for why I disregard the studies you referred to: they're not realistic, don't answer the question at hand, and simply fail to show the effect (i.e. I reckon their assays weren't sensitive enough. I'm still decidedly unconvinced by their using HEK 293Ts as positive control)
Ovaries: if I remember my high school biology, all eggs are grown before birth and start to mature during puberty. Testicles: sperm germ cells don't replicate during childhood. In both cases the seat-belt-less car is in the garage. After puberty, the car leaves the garage, and I'm sure you know someone who has or has had ovarian cancer.
As for early embryos what do you think would happen if a cell started replicating uncontrolledly? Death is what. If it was early enough no-one would ever know. If it was a little later, it's called a miscarriage. Anyway, you can't say 'in this normal, unadulterated wild-type situation you have telomerase expressed, but no cancer, therefore exogenously exoressing telomerase doesn't increase the risk of cancer'. There is more than one way to tackle the problem of cancer and multicellular organisms have been doing it for quite some time. In some cases they may have airbags, in others they drive slower, etc..
Incidentally, the real use for TA-65, if it worked, only occured to me after posting. It would revolutionise biology (well...certain fields of biology), because when you isolate primary cells for culture you need to try to keep them alive (think back to the study with vascular smooth muscle cells). I think that at the moment most people infect them with a lentivirus that carries telomerase (the older method was to wait and hope that they became 'transformed' - roughly translates to 'cancerous' - by themselves). That of course is a very invasive way of doing things and has lots of effects on the cell. If TA-65 worked you could just add a little bit and problem solved. Even more significant is that it would make autologous transplants so much easier and safer, transforming medicine by allowing us to culture someone's cells, mess with them a bit, and re-introduce them into the body.
If anyone reading this goes and tries it, and it works, please mention me in your Nobel Prize acceptance speech.
I'll finish with three comments:
1) I'm glad I provide humour. I was actually hoping to get my new musical 'Mr Skeptical and Mr. Reason' ("...uproariously funny...the best sex I ever had." - Kenneth Dinglebury, Weekly Telegraph) picked up in the West End.
2) I know you're going to take this the wrong way, but I'm not going to reply again because I've got better things to do with my time. I shall also endevour, in the future, to avoid being sucked into the black hole of SIWOTI syndrome
3) If you're in contact with TA Sciences, could you please ask them to send me an aliquot of TA-65 and some anti-telomerase antibody (a good one please!). If I get a signal on my western blot then I'd be happy to a) set the record straight, and b) sign a contract regarding the development of TA-65 as a tool for autologous transplantation. (You'll find my email address on my blog at http://www.blue-genes.net/)
What about those pesky gametes?
October 13, 2009 by Anonymous, 6 weeks 1 day ago
Comment: 45459
Ovaries have telomerase turned on normally.
"The average age for the onset of menopause in humans is about 51 years. On the other hand, premature ovarian failure (POF) is generally defined as the onset of menopause before the age of 40 years. Telomeres have been extensively examined as a mitotic clock. Telomeric DNA is elongated by telomerase. We analyzed the telomerase activity of 20 patients with normal ovaries and 5 patients with POF. Telomerase activity was present in the normal ovaries, however it decreased with age. Eight normal ovaries under 38 years of age showed significantly higher telomerase activity among the women with a regular menstrual cycle. Two POF patients showed high telomerase activity and 3 showed low telomerase activity. Our findings indicate that telomerase is present in the normal human ovary and that telomerase activity decreases with age. Patients with follicle dysfunction showed high telomerase activity and those with follicle depletion showed very low telomerase activity. Based on these results, we speculated that the decline of telomerase activity in the ovary is related to primordial follicle depletion with age and telomerase activity can be used as a marker of the ovarian functional age."
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/tjem/190/3/190_231/_article
Testes have telomerase turned on normally.
"The expressions of TEIF and hTERT were detected in all samples of normal, atrophic testes, and seminomas ... The strong expression of hTERT in normal testes and testicular seminomas comparing with the low expression in atrophic testes may suggest a role for telomerase in maintaining proliferation of germ cells."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16261899
Now, you were probably not reading academic journals in HS biology. It seems pretty clear that telomerase is *normal* in ovaries and testes. It actually declines in ovaries with age, and ovarian cancer occurs more frequently in women as they age. That seems to imply that not only is telomerase not a carcinogen, but it might be that it prevents cancer.
Care to offer an explanation for why these cells do not become cancerous? The telomerase is there, and it is there for decades.
Your mouse experiments have anything to say about that? These are actual human cells in vivo. And not experiments--this is the normal state of things. "Strong expression of hTERT" in human cells for decades.
If you are so scared of telomerase causing cancer, maybe you should ... well, how did Jesus put it, "if thine eye offend thee..."
Cancer or not, telomerase therapy probably still worth it
October 13, 2009 by Anonymous, 6 weeks 1 day ago
Comment: 45458
If you are so confident that it causes cancer, why don't you do the logical thing and get a law degree (might help with logical reasoning, too) and wait around until all the TA-65 users get cancer. You will reap actual financial rewards, if you are right. Even a class action suit for the big bucks.
I still don't think you've made any point. Cancer cells turn telomerase on anyway. They don't need us to provide the telomerase for them. As you said, the "normal" cells don't turn cancerous just because the telomerase is there, and when cells do turn cancerous, they provide their own telomerase. Where is the problem, exactly, with treating the normal cells with telomerase? Nobody, including you, have answered this question.
If I could *afford* telomerase activation therapy (going rate is now $14,000 a year--initially it was $25,000), I am confident enough that I would not get cancer that I would use it myself. That is a strong statement, I think. If long telomeres translate into 5 extra years of life, that's not too bad. And if there is a chance of cancer (by no means proven now) that treatment with telomerase reduces lifespan by 2 years across the population of people who take it, and the treatment translates into 5 years of increased life across the board... Well, do the math. We allow smoking, and that has a proven impact on cancer--it causes it for certain--and there is no positive health side effect like telomerase provides. You have to put things in context.
If I have a 5% chance of getting cancer and a 100% chance of living an extra 5 healthy years if I am in the 95%, it is hard to say no. Especially when it may be possible in the near future to eliminate cancer with gold/nanoparticles and radio waves throughout the whole body.
http://kanziuscancerresearch.com/researchupdates-c-72.html?osCsid=c6f86448e4416474911b89a92152eb61
So, if telomerase actually does cause cancer, but extends life, and there is a way to target and kill cancerous cells using radio waves, maybe the logical thing to do is:
1. provide telomerase therapy as a medical procedure covered by insurance (public option, anyone?)
2. provide radio cancer treatment (non-invasive) if there are any signs of cancer
That way, you get the life extension benefits and don't have to worry about cancer at all.
As for you not responding, it's really ok. What I was concerned about is the page rank your article had and the over-the-top pronouncements you were making about telomerase causing cancer. It's the other readers of this page who need to be given a different point of view.
http://www.telomerase.org