{"id":525,"date":"2015-06-12T14:22:57","date_gmt":"2015-06-12T14:22:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/genotopia.peachpuff-wolverine-566518.hostingersite.com\/?p=525"},"modified":"2015-06-12T14:22:57","modified_gmt":"2015-06-12T14:22:57","slug":"th-pua","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/genotopia\/525\/th-pua\/","title":{"rendered":"TH, PUA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2015\/jun\/10\/nobel-scientist-tim-hunt-female-scientists-cause-trouble-for-men-in-labs\">Nobel scientist Tim Hunt: female scientists cause trouble for men in labs. English biochemist tells conference women in laboratories \u2018fall in love with you and when you criticise them, they cry<\/a>\u2019\u201d (<em>The Guardian<\/em>)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/science\/2015\/jun\/10\/tim-hunt-apologises-comments-trouble-female-scientists\">\u201cI did mean the part about having trouble with girls&#8230; \u00a0I\u2019m really, really sorry I caused any offence, that\u2019s awful. I certainly didn\u2019t mean that. I just meant to be honest, actually.\u201d<\/a> (Tim Hunt)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Stockholm, 1983. A certain English scientist whose surname rhymes with&#8230;let\u2019s go with a small boat that you pole along the river Cam&#8230;is 40 years old. He has received an invitation to the Nobel festivities honoring the geneticist Barbara McClintock, \u201cfor her discovery of mobile genetic elements.\u201d He fancies himself a pick-up artist and thinks this will be an excellent place to meet girls. He starts at the top.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nobelprize.org\/nobel_prizes\/medicine\/laureates\/2001\/hunt-press.jpg\" alt=\"Tim Hunt (Nobelprize.org)\" width=\"300\" height=\"376\" \/><\/p>\n<p>BMC: And so, Your Majesties, Your Royal Highnesses, Ladies and Gentlemen, in conclusion, I wish to thank you and the Swedish people for their many courtesies. I hope I have conveyed some of the joy of the marvelous maize plant and the startling phenomena of the genome that one can discover when one has the time and the solitude to watch and to think. Are there any questions?<\/p>\n<p>TH (aside, to companion): <em>Watch this. Observe the master.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(to McClintock): \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, thank you. Before I speak, I\u2019d like to say something: that\u2019s a smashing dress.<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I hate dresses. They said I had to wear one, so I wore one. My niece found it somewhere near here.<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ahem, yes, I see. Well, jolly good one on me then!<\/p>\n<p>[<em>You see? She\u2019s falling for me. Works every time.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What I wanted to say was, all of these elegant trappings notwithstanding, that I find your argument&#8230;unconvincing. You haven\u2019t shown any data of any sort that a contemporary biologist would recognize.<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Are there any questions?<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 [<em>Always compliment them, then insult them a little. Never fails. Watch.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What I mean is, I don\u2019t mean to be indelicate, but what gives you the right to make such claims?<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What gives me the right, or what basis do I have? Please be clear. Well I can address both. What gives me the <em>right<\/em> is fifty years of studying genetics and the fact that I\u2019m standing at\u00a0the Nobel podium. The <em>basis<\/em> for my claims is my data, which I just reviewed. Weren\u2019t you paying attention? Are there any <em>other<\/em> questions? Yes, you in the back&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>TH:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 [<em>Ouuuuch! &lt;grins&gt; God I love older women! They find me irresistible!]<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Later, at the Banquet&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>TH: (suavely) \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ah! Dr. McClintock!<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I just wanted to apologize for my remarks at your lecture.<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>TH:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I ought not to have been so candid in such a public forum.<\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n<p>TH:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I mean, I <em>don\u2019t<\/em> honestly see what all the fuss is about your work. but I ought not to have said so in front of all of those reporters and, you know, the King and all. I hope I didn\u2019t upset you. I just wanted to be honest.<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You\u2019re the one who looks foolish. Did I upset you?<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You&#8230;me&#8230;? I&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Your pronouns seem to be functioning normally. But haven\u2019t you any verbs? I would have thought Cambridge would teach you better English.<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now look here. There\u2019s no call to be insulting.<\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, don\u2019t take me too seriously. Turn sideways. <em>[casts her eyes downward]<\/em> I\u2019ll give you this: you have a nice tush. <em>[pats it]<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 WHAT?!? I <em>never!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Never? Too bad. Me neither&#8230;much. Never had the time. I was just too interested in chromosomes\u2014and the Y is so short and stubby and dull. I do enjoy looking at a good tush, though.<\/p>\n<p>TH:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You never fell in love? Say, with a charming professor, aloof yet alluring, with beguiling nostril hair?<\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <em>[snorts]<\/em> Good one. Maybe you\u2019re all right, Tom.<\/p>\n<p>TH:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Tim. Timothy.<\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Suit yourself. If I may be frank, I could never feel attracted to someone I thought wasn\u2019t as smart as I am. And, well,&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>TH:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 [stiffens] <em>Really!<\/em> Now listen, what I need to tell you is this: Your experiments are just so <em>baroque<\/em>. You practice this old-fashioned style of genetics, your writing\u2019s impenetrable, and your experiments! They\u2019re so complicated\u2014one has to learn half your maize strains and strange chromosome constructions just to grasp your hypothesis! I can\u2019t honestly imagine how the Nobel committee even followed your work, let alone evaluated it. Why don\u2019t you do some molecular experiments? Things become so much simpler!<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes. As I was saying&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Are you implying that I\u2019m not&#8230;???<\/p>\n<p>BMC: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Must I spell it out for you? If you\u2019re not clever enough to grasp what I\u2019m doing, why are you even here? God I hate these stuffed-shirt evenings!<\/p>\n<p>TH: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <em>Now look here, madam<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No. <em>You<\/em> look here, squirt. And be quiet. I don\u2019t mean you any harm\u2014you\u2019re no dumber than most of the other men I\u2019ve spent my career around. But you\u2019re no smarter either. I\u2019ve been listening to you for ten minutes now, and you haven\u2019t said a <em>single<\/em> intelligent thing. Don\u2019t you ever grow up? There are more interesting <em>punchbowls<\/em> in this room. And I\u2019ve had plenty of your Australopithecine views. That\u2019s A-U-S&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>[<em>At this, TH\u2019s eyes start to well<\/em>] T-R-A-L-O-P-I-T-H-E-C-I-N-E. <em>There!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>BMC:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Gold star. <em>[rolls eyes]<\/em> Tom, I\u2019m sure what you do is perfectly interesting to someone. And maybe\u2014although of this I\u2019m less certain\u2014what you say, someone finds charming. But with me, neither happens to be the case. Now, about that punch&#8230; <em>[walks off]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[<em>Tears stream down TH\u2019s cheeks. He falls to his knees, one arm extended melodramatically in her direction<\/em>] Barbara! Dr. McClintock! Don\u2019t go! I\u2014I love you!<\/p>\n<p>BMC: [<em>To another, female, guest<\/em>] My trouble boys is that all they want to talk about is romance and their own feelings. Always falling in love with you and weeping. How do they ever get any science done?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> McClintock was known to compliment people\u2014men and women\u2014on their tushes. In the words of a long-time friend, \u201cShe just liked tushes.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cNobel scientist Tim Hunt: female scientists cause trouble for men in labs. 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