{"id":1145,"date":"2020-02-06T17:00:43","date_gmt":"2020-02-06T17:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/horizon.peachpuff-wolverine-566518.hostingersite.com\/?p=1145"},"modified":"2020-02-06T17:00:43","modified_gmt":"2020-02-06T17:00:43","slug":"qa-to-protect-the-atlantic-we-first-need-to-understand-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/horizon\/1145\/qa-to-protect-the-atlantic-we-first-need-to-understand-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&amp;A: To protect the Atlantic, we first need to understand it"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"field field-name-field-header field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\">\n<div class=\"field-items\">\n<div class=\"field-item even\">\n<h3 class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>The Atlantic Ocean is under threat from fishing, fossil fuel extraction and deep-sea mining, and the onus should be on these industries to prove that their exploitation is sustainable rather than requiring scientists to come up with reasons to protect it, says Professor J Murray Roberts, a marine biologist at the University of Edinburgh, UK.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden\">\n<div class=\"field-items\">\n<div class=\"field-item even\">\n<h3 class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>He is leading the first ocean-wide health assessment of the Atlantic ecosystem to work out which areas are at risk and how to safeguard them. The study\u00a0will combine\u00a0analyses of existing data with deep-ocean observing technologies, including biochemical sensors and automated underwater vehicles.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<div class=\"relatedArticlesBlock\">\n<p><strong>What are some of the main threats to the Atlantic Ocean?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018I tend to work a lot on deep-water corals. They&#8217;re right in the front line of global change. In deeper and colder waters, already things are closer to being lightly corrosive (to coral skeletons). If we add more CO2 from oil and gas combustion, then that process (of acidification) is happening far faster. And the corals of the deep sea are very likely to experience waters that are corrosive, which will mean the (dead) skeletons start to dissolve. The dead coral skeletons \u2013 the generations of corals one atop the other forming vast mounds in the deep seas of the Atlantic \u2013 the projections are that those will disappear. That&#8217;s a huge tipping point that we&#8217;re facing probably in the next 100-200 years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018(Corals are) the architects of the deep sea, building the habitat that so many other forms of life rely upon. They&#8217;re so vulnerable, not just to local change effects, but also the simple and obvious impact of fisheries. If a trawl runs over a deep-water coral reef, there&#8217;s not much deep-water coral reef left.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018We&#8217;re also adding a whole variety of other new stressors. If we\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/magazine\/archive\/2020\/01\/20000-feet-under-the-sea\/603040\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">mine the deep sea<\/a>\u00a0(for metals to use in batteries), we need to understand not just the impacts on the seabed, where we scrape the nodules or remove metal-rich crusts from seamounts. We&#8217;ll (also) disperse slurries and plumes from the surface that will spread right through the water column (the different layers of the sea). These have been modelled, but no one has actually looked at the effects of those plumes on the pelagic biology, the biology of the water column. We&#8217;ll be doing those sorts of experiments.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>Why does a healthy Atlantic matter?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018The whole circulation of the Atlantic (is highly connected). I&#8217;m sitting in Scotland and I probably wouldn&#8217;t enjoy sitting in Scotland nearly as much if the Gulf Stream from Florida and the Gulf of Mexico wasn&#8217;t flowing across, creating the North Atlantic drift currents and keeping us in a really mild maritime climate. We have evidence that (major) circulation (patterns) have already slowed down quite considerably. We should just compare what the climate is like in the Arctic territories of Canada, compared to Norway and Scotland \u2013 that\u2019s how different the world would be if that current system wasn\u2019t operating.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018All of the fish that we eat, everything that&#8217;s fished from the Atlantic and also the sea basins &#8211; the very productive North Sea \u2013 all of these things are highly interconnected. And if one system starts to suffer, the others, very quickly, will also degrade.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>You are carrying out an Atlantic ecosystem assessment under a project called\u00a0<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/cordis.europa.eu\/project\/id\/818123\"><strong>iAtlantic<\/strong><\/a><strong>. What\u2019s the goal?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018Our focus is on understanding the pressures \u2026 and creating a sort of risk-based approach to managing human activities. It&#8217;s all about maintaining function.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018One would argue (that) where you see an ecosystem that&#8217;s showing signs of tipping from one state into another, plus it&#8217;s in an area experiencing very rapid climatic and perhaps human-induced changes, those are the areas that we&#8217;ll need to manage the most carefully. So, we might be putting in different management measures around deep-sea mining, or expanding oil and gas, or how we prosecute fisheries in the future.\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"dynamic_article_image_bloc\">\n<figure style=\"width: 969px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/horizon-media.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/s3fs-public\/IMCEUpload\/murray_roberts_headshot.png\" alt=\"Assessing the health of an entire ocean is an 'extraordinarily ambitious agenda', says Prof. J Murray Roberts. Image credit - Hannah Roberts\" width=\"979\" height=\"955\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Assessing the health of an entire ocean is an &#8216;extraordinarily ambitious agenda&#8217;, says Prof. J Murray Roberts. Image credit &#8211; Hannah Roberts<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"caption credit\"><strong>How does this get done?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018Many of the areas we work on are areas beyond any nation&#8217;s jurisdiction (in the deep and open ocean). They&#8217;re managed under the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.un.org\/depts\/los\/convention_agreements\/convention_overview_convention.htm\">United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea<\/a>. At the moment, the UN is negotiating a new legally binding treaty to manage biodiversity in areas beyond national jurisdiction. And so iAtlantic will be very focused on making sure its science translates and is relevant directly to such processes (to feed into new legislation).<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018The onus is always on those that want to see protection to come up with a reason to protect. The onus is very rarely on those that wish to exploit an ecosystem to prove that their exploitation is sustainable. We need to flip that around.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>How do you go about assessing an ocean that runs from the Arctic down to South Africa and the tip of South America?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018It is an extraordinarily ambitious agenda, to assess ecosystem status across an entire ocean basin.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018We&#8217;ll be looking at datasets (illustrating ecosystem changes over time) alongside the physical oceanography of the entire Atlantic and looking at which areas across the broad reach of the Atlantic are changing the most rapidly. So, for instance, there are areas where we see expanding deoxygenation zones. We&#8217;re seeing areas that are acidifying or becoming warmer and marine heat waves that are increasing in severity and in frequency.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018I&#8217;m very curious to see what we learn about the deoxygenation signals, the lowered oxygen assessments. It will be fascinating just to see how the system is actually operating, as opposed to how we think it might be operating.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018We&#8217;ll be running experiments at several thousand metres water depth using seabed landers, akin to lunar landers, that operate on the deep-sea floor. We rely on remotely operated vehicles, to survey and sample and be our hands and our eyes on the deep-sea floor.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>Are you really analysing the whole ocean?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018We have (identified) 12 regions in the Atlantic \u2026 and those are the places where we&#8217;ll focus our activities.<\/p>\n<div class=\"quote-view quotesBlock quote_horizontal\">\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018It will be fascinating just to see how the system is actually operating, as opposed to how we think it might be operating.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">Prof. J Murray Roberts, University of Edinburgh, UK.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>Could you give us an example?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018(We\u2019ll have\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.iatlantic.eu\/expeditions.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an expedition<\/a>\u00a0to study) the Walvis Ridge, which is the ridge that effectively points southwest from Namibia and out into the open south Atlantic. A very rarely studied place, likely to be a very important hotspot of corals and sponges. We have an autonomous underwater vehicle that will robotically map that area and we&#8217;ll have a remotely operated vehicle to sample and survey the area. That will be deployed with an autonomous plankton sampler so we can sample environmental DNA and preserve those samples even down to 6,000 metres water depth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018So that allows us not only to map and photograph the sea floor, but also create an archive of the biology that&#8217;s in the water. To me, that&#8217;s like science fiction.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>Previously, research on the Atlantic was divided into North and South, but now\u00a0<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.atlanticresource.org\/aora\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>scientists are coming together to study the whole Atlantic<\/strong><\/a><strong>. What does this enable?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018There\u2019s a huge emphasis on capacity building. We are learning from the capacities of experts in South America, particularly, because they&#8217;ve maintained and enhanced their expertise in taxonomy, the ability to recognise and classify marine life. Sadly, in Europe and in North America, we&#8217;ve allowed our taxonomists to age and retire. We haven&#8217;t trained enough new taxonomists.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>What else could we learn, apart from how we should protect the Atlantic?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018We have taken an approach where we will work on key organisms that have a really important role in the ecosystem. They might be the corals or the sponges or key organisms in the water column (like the humpback whales that migrates throughout the Atlantic). And we&#8217;ll experiment on the (corals and sponges) in the laboratory, using future scenarios derived from our understanding of how the ocean is likely to behave. I think those experiments will be very telling because sometimes we find that animals have ways of acclimating that we don&#8217;t (yet) understand.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">\u2018(In the future) I&#8217;m very much looking forward to how we better understand the evolutionary potential of Atlantic animals. That&#8217;s the science that will be completely fascinating.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><strong>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\"><em>The research in this article was funded by the EU. If you liked this article, please consider sharing it on social media.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"moreInfoBlock\">\n<h3>All-Atlantic Ocean Research<\/h3>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">The Atlantic is the world\u2019s second largest ocean, stretching from the Arctic down to the Antarctic. Understanding this body of water, how it\u2019s changing and how to protect it, needs researchers from all Atlantic nations to work together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">Until now, researchers have been grouped into two communities: the North Atlantic (<a href=\"https:\/\/ec.europa.eu\/commission\/presscorner\/detail\/en\/IP_13_459\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">EU, US and Canada<\/a>) and the South Atlantic (<a href=\"https:\/\/ec.europa.eu\/research\/index.cfm?pg=newsalert&amp;year=2017&amp;na=na-130717\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">EU, South Africa, Brazil<\/a>). This is changing with the establishment of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.allatlanticocean.org\/our_focus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an all-Atlantic Ocean research community<\/a>\u00a0to identify future research and innovation activities in six areas: climate variability, ocean resources, ocean observation, ocean technology, emerging pollutants and polar research.<\/p>\n<p class=\"selectionShareable\">On 6 and 7 February, representatives from the different countries will come together at the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/allatlanticoceanresearch.eu\/home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">All-Atlantic Ocean Research Forum<\/a>\u00a0in Brussels, Belgium, to hear the findings from research projects to date. 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