{"id":214,"date":"2014-02-17T23:49:39","date_gmt":"2014-02-17T23:49:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joshmitteldorf.peachpuff-wolverine-566518.hostingersite.com\/?p=214"},"modified":"2014-02-24T20:22:50","modified_gmt":"2014-02-24T20:22:50","slug":"anti-oxidants-can-nullify-the-benefits-of-exercise","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/joshmitteldorf\/2014\/02\/17\/anti-oxidants-can-nullify-the-benefits-of-exercise\/","title":{"rendered":"Anti-Oxidants can Nullify the Benefits of Exercise"},"content":{"rendered":"<p dir=\"ltr\"><em>A lot of people still try to understand aging as a kind of accumulated damage, or wear-and-tear. \u00a0Theories of oxidative damage are one poular version, and anti-oxidants have been promoted as a remedy for aging by people who should know better. \u00a0One trouble with the damage theories is the of things that increase damage, but that lengthen life span. \u00a0Exercise is the best example, but <a href=\"http:\/\/mathforum.org\/~josh\/SENS4-Mitteldorf.pdf\">there are many others<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><em>For twenty years and more, it has been clear that <a href=\"https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/joshmitteldorf\/2012\/11\/19\/anti-oxidants-a-disappointment-or-worse\/\">anti-oxidants don\u2019t lead to longer life<\/a>. \u00a0More recently, there is evidence that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/05\/12\/health\/research\/12exer.html\">anti-oxidants can actually take away the benefits of exercise<\/a>. \u00a0The latest such study was reported just last week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/AgingAdvice.org\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-200\" alt=\"AA-Banner\" src=\"https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/01\/AA-Banner.png\" width=\"600\" height=\"291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/joshmitteldorf\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/01\/AA-Banner.png 600w, https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/joshmitteldorf\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/01\/AA-Banner-300x145.png 300w, https:\/\/scienceblog.com\/joshmitteldorf\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/01\/AA-Banner-500x242.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Writing in her NYTimes column this week, <a href=\"http:\/\/well.blogs.nytimes.com\/2014\/02\/12\/why-vitamins-may-be-bad-for-your-workout\">Gretchen Reynolds reported<\/a> on a Norwegian study<a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/1cBuCAOwnJV1OEYZhv78gbH57kom2HeophBwsusUwPZk\/edit#jp\">*<\/a> combining vitamin C and E supplements with a vigorous exercise program. \u00a0The study recruited people who were already exercising, and intensified their aerobic program for 11 weeks, with both endurance exercise and interval training. \u00a0The outcome that they highlighted was in the mitochondrial metabolism. \u00a0Mitochondria are tiny \u201corganelles\u201d, hundreds of them in each cell, burning sugar to supply the cell with energy. \u00a0One of the things that happens to increase strength and endurance in response to exercise is that the cells grow new mitochondria, and the existing mitochondria become more efficient. \u00a0In the Norwegian study, this seemed to be happening on schedule in the test subjects who exercised without vitamin supplements, but not in the group taking vitamins. \u00a0Nevertheless, endurance capacity of both groups was imroved by the exercise program.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The first result of this type (that I am aware of) was reported from a German study in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pnas.org\/content\/106\/21\/8665.short\">2009<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/1cBuCAOwnJV1OEYZhv78gbH57kom2HeophBwsusUwPZk\/edit#1971\">**<\/a>. \u00a0In this study, non-exercisers were given an exercise program for just 4 weeks, and their insulin sensitivity and glutathione both improved; but supplementation with vitamins E and C blocked these benefits. \u00a0I think both these are pretty good markers for aging &#8211; more basic and more closely-related to aging than mitochondrial markers. \u00a0Of course, what we really would like to see would be long-term effects on mortality and longevity.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">In between, there have been a number of studies confirming the effect. \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/21085043\">Here\u2019s one<\/a> that found that generation of new mitochondria is blocked by alpha lipoic acid. \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ajcn.nutrition.org\/content\/87\/1\/142.short\">Another one<\/a> related <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/dr-mark-hyman\/glutathione-the-mother-of_b_530494.html\" target=\"_blank\">glutathione <\/a>and mitochondrial markers to vitamin C. \u00a0There are studies of old and young people, people who did no exercise prior to the experiment, and people who had exercised regularly, and were challenged with more. \u00a0There were also some studies that failed to find an effect [<a href=\"http:\/\/ajpendo.physiology.org\/content\/301\/5\/E779\">ref<\/a> for rats; <a href=\"http:\/\/ajpendo.physiology.org\/content\/300\/5\/E761\">ref<\/a> for humans]<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2006\/11\/17\/health\/17drug.html?pagewanted=all\" target=\"_blank\">In one study of mice<\/a>, very large doses of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.webmd.com\/heart-disease\/resveratrol-supplements\" target=\"_blank\">resveratrol<\/a> seemed to give the mice great strength and endurance. \u00a0However, in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/23878368\">human study last year<\/a> (from this same Norwegian group), resveratrol diminished the benefits of exercise.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The theory is that temporary elevation of ROS (= free radicals, sources of oxidative damage) is a signal that tells the body to build new muscle, to proliferate mitochondria, and to improve the sensitivity to insulin. \u00a0All these changes are plausibly related to better strength and health, and perhaps youthfulness. \u00a0The fact that the effects appear when measuring a variety of outcomes from a variety of anti-oxidants (vitamins A, C, E, CoQ10 and resveratrol) lends to the credibility of this idea. \u00a0Vitamin C, in particular, is intimately related to the energy metabolism of the mitochondria, lending plausibility to results for vitamin C in particular.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Summary<\/strong><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The bottom line, for me, is that results are still quite sketchy, that we don\u2019t know the full story, that some physiological benefits of exercise seem to be blunted for some people, if certain anti-oxiadants are taken in combination with the exercise program. \u00a0But the broader context is clear: \u00a0<strong><em>Anti-oxidant vitamins have never been shown to increase life span in rodents, or to reduce mortality in humans. \u00a0But exercise robustly increases life span in animal studies, and reduces mortality in humans.<\/em><\/strong> \u00a0For me, the evidence is clear enough to advise against vitamin E and C supplements for people who exercise. \u00a0For resveratrol and CoQ10, I remain uncertain.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p>* I get error messages when I try to pull up the original study in the Journal of Physiology. \u00a0If I get a good web reference to the study, I\u2019ll link it above and erase this footnote.<\/p>\n<p>** There are precursors that go back to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/5571788?access_num=5571788&amp;link_type=MED&amp;dopt=Abstract\">1971<\/a>, when competitive swimmers were given vitamin E, and it was reported to slow them down. \u00a0Here\u2019s a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/9401591\">1997<\/a> study that reported CoQ10 supplementation dragged down performance improvements from high-intensity sprint training.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A lot of people still try to understand aging as a kind of accumulated damage, or wear-and-tear. \u00a0Theories of oxidative damage are one poular version, and anti-oxidants have been promoted as a remedy for aging by people who should know better. \u00a0One trouble with the damage theories is the of things that increase damage, but &#8230; 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The surprising fact that our bodies are genetically programmed to age and to die offers an enormous opportunity for medical intervention. It may be that therapies to slow the progress of aging need not repair or regenerate anything, but only need to interfere with an existing program of self-destruction. Mitteldorf has taught a weekly yoga class for thirty years. He is an advocate for vigorous self care, including exercise, meditation and caloric restriction. After earning a PhD in astrophysicist, Mitteldorf moved to evolutionary biology as a primary field in 1996. He has taught at Harvard, Berkeley, Bryn Mawr, LaSalle and Temple University. He is presently affiliated with MIT as a visiting scholar. In private life, Mitteldorf is an advocate for election integrity as well as public health. He is an avid amateur musician, playing piano in chamber groups, French horn in community orchestras. His two daughters are among the first children adopted from China in the mid-1980s. Much to the surprise of evolutionary biologists, genetic experiments indicate that aging has been selected as an adaptation for its own sake. This poses a conundrum: the impact of aging on individual fitness is wholly negative, so aging must be regarded as a kind of evolutionary altruism. Unlike other forms of evolutionary altruism, aging offers benefits to the community that are weak, and not well focussed on near kin of the altruist. 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The surprising fact that our bodies are genetically programmed to age and to die offers an enormous opportunity for medical intervention. It may be that therapies to slow the progress of aging need not repair or regenerate anything, but only need to interfere with an existing program of self-destruction. Mitteldorf has taught a weekly yoga class for thirty years. He is an advocate for vigorous self care, including exercise, meditation and caloric restriction. After earning a PhD in astrophysicist, Mitteldorf moved to evolutionary biology as a primary field in 1996. He has taught at Harvard, Berkeley, Bryn Mawr, LaSalle and Temple University. He is presently affiliated with MIT as a visiting scholar. In private life, Mitteldorf is an advocate for election integrity as well as public health. He is an avid amateur musician, playing piano in chamber groups, French horn in community orchestras. His two daughters are among the first children adopted from China in the mid-1980s. 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