If you eschew hyperbole and hang in for the long haul, maintaining a discipline of understatement in the midst of a flashy neon world, you may be offered a modicum of credence when you make an extraordinary announcement. No one is entitled to this courtesy twice. If the news that you trumpet to the moon does not pan out, your readers will be justified in discounting everything you say thereafter.
Here goes.
I believe major rejuvenation has been achieved in a mammal, using a relatively benign intervention that shows promise of scaling up to humans. I’m going to stake my reputation on it.

In the race to effect substantial, system-wide rejuvenation, Harold Katcher is a dark horse. He has the right academic credentials and a solid history of research. In fact, in earlier life he was part of a team that discovered the breast cancer gene, brca1. I asked Harold for a biographical sketch, and have printed it in a box at the end of this posting.
But Katcher has no research grants or university lab or venture capital funding, no team of grad students mining databases and screening chemicals in the back room.
One thing Katcher has going for him is the correct theory. Most of the explosion in aging research (and virtually all the venture capital startups) are looking to treat aging at the cellular level. Their paradigm is that aging is an accumulation of molecular damage, and they see their job as engineering of appropriate repair mechanisms.
The truth, as Katcher understands it, is that, to a large extent, aging is coordinated system-wide via signal molecules in the blood. It was our common realization of this vision that brought Katcher and me together more than a decade ago. Katcher briefly describes his 2009 epiphany below. It was the source of his 2013 essay (it took a few years to get it into print) on the significance of parabiosis experiments for the future of aging science.
Of course, Katcher was not the only one to get the message about the power of signal molecules in the blood to reprogram tissues to a younger state throughout the body. The problem is that there are thousands of constituents represented in tiny concentrations in blood plasma, but conveying messages that cells read. Which of these are responsible for aging? A small number of labs, including the Conboys at Berkeley, Amy Wager at Harvard, and Tony Wyss-Coray at Stanford have been searching for the answer over the last decade and more.
Katcher has been able to guess or intuit or experimentally determine the answer to this question. With seed funding from Akshay Sanghavi, he set up a lab in Mumbai two years ago, and tried to rejuvenate old lab rats, using a fraction extracted from the blood of younger rats. The first round of experiments were encouraging, published in this space a year ago. He obtained the next round of funding from a reader of this blog, and had enough rats to titrate dosages experimentally, and to see if treated rats who aged again over time could be re-treated successfully.
There is a hole in this story that awaits the resolution of intellectual property rights. Katcher and Sanghvi have not applied for patents and have not yet found a suitable partner to provide financing for human trials. They have not revealed any details of the treatment, besides the fact that it is in four intravenous doses, and that it is derived from a fraction of blood plasma. Katcher thinks that the molecules involved will not be difficult to manufacture, so that when a product is eventually commercialized, it will not require extraction from the blood of live subjects, rodent or human.
We’re still waiting for longevity curves of these treated rats. In the meantime, the best available surrogate measure of age comes from methylation clocks, as developed by Steve Horvath at UCLA, and other scientists as well. Crucially, Katcher found an ally in Horvath, who didn’t just test his rejuvenated rats, but did the needed statistical analysis to develop a set of six methylation clocks specialized to rats. FIve of the clocks are optimized for different tissues, and one is calibrated across species, so that it can measure age in humans as well as corresponding age in “rat years” (about 1/40 human year). The two-species clock was a significant innovation, a first bridge for translating results from an animal model into their probable equivalent in humans.
In a paper posted to BioRxiv on Friday, Katcher and Horvath report results of the methylation measurements in rejuvenated rats. “Crucially, plasma treatment of the old rats [109 weeks] reduced the epigenetic ages of blood, liver and heart by a very large and significant margin, to levels that are comparable with the young rats [30 weeks]….According to the final version of the epigenetic clocks, the average rejuvenation across four tissues was 54.2%. In other words, the treatment more than halved the epigenetic age.”

Besides the methylation clock, the paper presents evidence of rejuvenation by many other measures. For example:
- IL-6, a marker of inflammation, was restored to low youthful levels
- Glutathione (GSH), superoxide dismutase (SOD), and other anti-oxidants were restored to higher youthful levels
- In tests of cognitive function (Barnes maze), treated rats scored better than old rats, but not as well as young rats.
- Blood triglycerides were brought down to youthful levels
- HDL cholesterol rose to youthful levels
- Blood glucose fell toward youthful levels
A major question in blood plasma rejuvenation experiments has been how often the cure must be administered. Many of the components of blood plasma are short-lived, secreted into the blood and absorbed continuously throughout the day. The good news from Katcher’s results is that it seems only four injections are needed in order to achieve rejuvenation.
A second question which these experiments resolve is whether rejuvenation requires both adding and removing molecular species from the blood plasma. For example, pro-inflammatory cytokines are found in old blood at much higher levels. Irina and Mike Conboy, people who I regard as most credible in the field, have said that removing bad actors from the blood is probably more important than restoring youthful levels of beneficial signals. They were grad students at Stanford 15 years ago, when the modern wave of parabiosis science was initiated, and have pursued the subject continuously ever since. Katcher’s experiments have achieved their results only by adding blood components, not by removing or even neutralizing others. This suggests that he has found the necessary formula for re-programming epigenetics, so that lower levels of the bad actors occur as a result. But it remains to be seen whether even better results can be obtained if some plasma constituents are removed.
A question that remains unresolved concerns the location and mechanism of the aging clock. I have been undecided over the years between two models:
- There is a central aging clock, perhaps in the hypothalamus, which keeps its own time and transmits signals throughout the body that coordinate methylation state of dispersed tissues
- Information about epigenetic age is dispersed through the body, and the body’s clock is a feedback loop that is continually updating methylation age locally in response to signals received about the methylation age globally.
There is a suggestion in the data that the hypothalamus may be more difficult to rejuvenate than other tissues. Does it play a more important role than other tissues in coordinating the age of the entire body? Horvath (personal communication) counsels caution in drawing this inference until measurements are corroborated and more experiments are done.
The Bottom Line
These results bring together three threads that have been gaining credibility over the last decade. Mutually reinforcing, the three have a strength that none of them could offer separately.
- The root cause of aging is epigenetic progression = changes in gene expression over a lifetime.
- Methylation patterns in nuclear DNA are not merely a marker of aging, but its primary source. Thus aging can be reversed by reprogramming DNA methylation.
- Information about the body’s age state is transmitted system-wide via signal molecules in the blood. Locally, tissues respond to these signals and adopt a young or an old cellular phenotype as they are directed.
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Harold Katcher, Biographical Sketch So, you might consider me a late bloomer. While I have thousands of citations in the literature, with publications ranging from the discovery of the human ‘breast cancer gene’, to protein structure, bacteriology, biotechnology, bioinformatics, and biochemistry, there was no center or direction to my work as I had given up my personal goal of solving/curing aging when I learned that ‘wear and tear’ was the cause of it. Yet something happened in year 1985 when I was in California working with Michael Waterman and Temple Smith (fathers of bioinformatics) that is inexplicable: I found myself in Intensive Care with a tube inserted into my trachea and the knowledge that I might not live. And then I had a dream: I dreamed that somehow in the far future (and on another world), I was being feted for ‘bringing immortality to mankind’. Clearly, I survived that incident (started with an infected tooth). I lived a wonderful life – becoming a computer programmer (which I loved), leaving that for the University of Maryland’s Asian division, becoming a full professor and then the Academic Director for the Sciences, in Tokyo, Japan. By the time I left Japan in 2004, (my daughter Sasha was a fourth-grader, (yonensei), in the Japanese school system), I was teaching for U of M online – somewhat retired, and looking forwards to writing computer programs for fun and profit. Yet I never ever forgot that dream. It was clearly impossible; I had no lab – and really, there was no way to repair all damaged cells – it’d be like sweeping back the ocean. And then, in 2009, I read an old paper from 2005, a paper written by the Conboys, (Michael and Irina), Tom Rando and others, coming from Irv Weisman’s lab, that completely changed my life; that showed me that everything I believed about aging was wrong – that aging occurred at the organismic level, not at the cellular level and could be reversed. Well, the rest of the story is about persistence and the blessed intervention of Akshay Sanghvi who too saw there was another way and provided the structural, monetary, and emotional support (and some good ideas) that had me start a new career at age 72 in Mumbai, India. I feel twenty years younger than I did three years ago, I guess that’s another hint about aging. Now the ‘mystical’ dream? It wouldn’t be the first time in history that that happened – take that as a datum. |
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A major paper concerning E5 in Nature - Aging, April 2024. Contains results including isolating miRNA loads of EV that seem to have much of the active effect of E5, among other things. See this link https://www.nature.com/articles/s43587-024-00612-4
Hi Akshay, I hadn't drop here for a long time, but I read Harold ad you last paper, which even yield more questions to me. I am not going to post them here.
recently I foun dquiean interesting paper about the possiblity of cultivatinc EV in bioreactors
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9506336/
Do you consider this as a mid term possibility?
I hope you're going forward with your dogs trial, please. keep us updated.
All the best
I had suggested about this in another topic in this same blog (in end of 2023), but... wow! I see that even 2022, this already was addressed!
Investigating the synergistic effects of agents that upregulate Klotho and LL-37 is a sophisticated and nuanced area of research. While specific studies focusing on the combined effects of these agents on Klotho and LL-37 upregulation are limited, we can hypothesize potential synergies based on their known mechanisms of action and biological roles. Here's an overview:
Vitamin D3 and Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Both are known for their immune-modulating effects. Vitamin D3 upregulates LL-37 and potentially Klotho. Omega-3 fatty acids, through their anti-inflammatory actions, might enhance this effect, potentially creating a synergistic environment for both LL-37 and Klotho expression.
Vitamin D3 and Curcumin: Vitamin D3's role in upregulating LL-37 could be complemented by curcumin's broad anti-inflammatory properties, which might indirectly support Klotho expression. This combination could have a synergistic effect on reducing inflammation, a key factor in aging and immune function.
Curcumin and Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Both have potent anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties. This combination could create a favorable environment for the expression of anti-aging genes like Klotho, and possibly for antimicrobial peptides like LL-37, by reducing oxidative stress and inflammation.
Sodium Butyrate and Vitamin D3: As an HDAC inhibitor, sodium butyrate can alter chromatin structure and affect gene expression, potentially enhancing the effects of Vitamin D3 on both LL-37 and Klotho expression.
Generated by a Custom GPT designed for active agent up-regulating Klotho. It would imply that there should be some benefit of combining Vitamin A, and D3, Curcumin, Omega 3, and Sodium Butyrate.
Maxwell Biosciences believe they have found the rejuvenating factor in young blood: "LL-37 - also known as Human Cathelicidin Antimicrobial Peptide." It would be a super-drug except it's too unstable. They have developed a cheap stable small molecule they call MXB-22,510 that mimics LL-37 and are going to human trials next year.(2024). They call it a "synthetic immune system". It's causes most human pathogens both viral and bacterial to be quickly eliminated replacing both antibiotics and antivirals. They believe Immune senescence is the main driver of aging, and expect this drug to increase human life expectancy from 74yrs to 120yrs by 2033. https://maxwellbiosciences.com/healthspan
The above should have been in quotes to avoid plagiarism, but I don't recall where to attribute it.
Maxwell Biosciences have found a single molecule that seems responsible for heterochronic parabiosis effects. It is very fragile and elusive but they have made a synthetic version that is stable and they are going to human trials in 2024
It’s almost impossible posting a reply here recently as it continues to get flagged a Google verification failed error with message that you are not human. So if you don’t see my replies the reason is this. I am trying to post this:
Dear Shay and our supporters here thank you so much for worrying about us ???? we are in between funding rounds and the VC funding has come down by 70% since its peak in 2020 for biotechnology in general so that compounds the lack of funding. We also need to fill a gap in our management team: we need a senior executive who has taken a drug from lab to clinical success. Once we recruit such an executive our funding search would become easier. We are actively hunting for this executive. If there is anyone here who would like to invest and I will qualify as accredited investor please write to me atomicblissventures at gmail dot com. Currently our dog trial is delayed due to an entire batch of plasma that we collected over many months not clearing QC tests. We are in the process of sourcing from alternative suppliers. We also improved our QC assay. So in the next couple of weeks we should have enough E5 to start the dog trial and the topical E5 human clinical trial.
Yes, that Google thing is not good. One gives up. My comment is that NEEL is not possible to ship outside US on your page ?
Regarding NEEL gel. Amazon bot has erroneously flagged it as a restricted drug when it is safe cosmetic product. Unfortunately it takes really long to appeal. We have shared with them a legal memorandum from our regulatory attorney that confirms it to be a cosmetic product. So hopefully someone senior enough at Amazon will relist it soon. In the meanwhile one can always buy NEEL from our website: Neelgel.com
Regarding NEEL one our regulars on this blog has been diligently applying NEEL all over his body since a year. Probably the only person I know who has done that. He can name himself if he wants. He has emailed me about incredible improvements he has noticed. He sent me before and after photos of his face and it looks 20 years younger to me. He says that his strength and energy has gone up considerably: for example he needs to carry two buckets of water for a regular task in his garden. Earlier it had become quite strenuous but now he says he can sprint back with them. He also mentioned improvements in other aspects which I won’t mention here but hope you get the drift. He said over the year nothing else was changed except the application of NEEL. Anyway this is just a n=1 kind of anecdotal data but it’s really exciting to imagine what will be the effect of an oral pill that’s under development with us. Takes me back to the reason Harold and I decided to develop products of Ghk: the Broad Institute gene mapping study that showed Ghk reset 1/3rd of our genes to youthful expression.
Thanks for this update. Akshay.
Many friends were wondering why it was removed from Amazon.
I wonder how much money we are talking about, to get human trials going with E5? It would be a shame for this to just stop here due to lack of funding. There may be a way to get funding going again with the right people involved, including the people who visit this blog! Many of us could help in various ways, I am sure. Does anyone have an idea how much money is needed to get this going again?
Dr Katcher seems to be pretty mad at the lack of funding (?) right now. I wonder if a last ditch effort is in order. Something like channeling all resources towards making enough E5 for one person, and then using it as a proof of concept. But maybe I'm reading too much into his exasperation?
To me there seem to be companies doing "something" in regards to this, and having effect like he testimonials at https://www.wellbeingint.com/ or Sally Kaufmann. The enormous verification processes required by the FDA seem to having been avoided. Its sad if our guys are running out of funding, but to me the way forward seem to be Harold doing a full cure himself based on the best possible guess from what we now know. The proof is in the pudding anyway...
I've seen a few companies offering these treatments or someting similar but it seems that they only give small quantities of EVs or cells which probably isn't sufficient to overcome the body's own signaling. It's like they are sitting on a gold mine but they don't really know its value because they don't have the right framework to work with; they think "regenerative medicine", with very specific applications when they should think "rejuvenation", with full body treatment in mind.
I would think so too regarding the dosage.
sandra kaufmann said i a podcast she does extracellular vesicles once a month and stated the she believes they are behind at least 80% of positive results from gene therapy...
Its an annectode but all science start with annectodes, and combine this with the faboulus work carried out by Akshay and Harold, E5 in my oppinion represent a good lead and maybe the highest potential for short term benefits in this area of all leads. Sad if they run out of money...
I think that in the moment Dr. Katcher apply E5 on himself and the results were fascinants, show himself to internet, TV shows and investors will flood into his house to get more information about.
It's simple, every anti-aging lab and scientist claims that their discovery have results on animals. But most people are skeptical why until moment, no human show impressionant results.
Aksay and Katcher should try that, it would be the best proof of concept. Not only pictures, but for those that could say that is makeup, plastic surgeries, etc, they should collect biomarkers before and after infusion.
As I said, everyone is claiming that found the youlth formule. But people are tired of seeing results on animals or just statistics in papers. People want see fascinant results in real life people!
I think that in the moment Dr. Katcher apply E5 on himself and the results were fascinants, show himself to internet, TV shows and investors will flood into his house to get more information about.
It's simple, every anti-aging lab and scientist claims that their discovery have results on animals. But most people are skeptical why until moment, no human show impressionant results.
Aksay and Katcher should try that, it would be the best proof of concept. Not only pictures, but for those that could say that is makeup, plastic surgeries, etc, they should collect biomarkers before and after infusion.
As I said, everyone is claiming that found the youlth formule. But people are tired of seeing results on animals or just statistics in papers. People want see fascinant results in real life people!
Update on NEEL
I have now used the NEEL for half a year. Although slowly and steadily I will say there is an incremental improvement.
As I am approching having used half of the last bottle I was going to buy more at Amazon, but the page was taken down. Akshay, would you know anything about that ? I would hope it is still possible to buy, but it dont look like that. I was planning to buy a new batch for continous use.
I must have gotten one of the last bottles.
You are a lucky guy :)
Sad if our guys are running out of money on the E5 and have to spend all time chasing investors.
To me the way forward seems to be "flushing" young esovesicals into the body and hope for the best anyway. Then hopefully the proof will be in the pudding...
If this is to be run through the FDA "efficacy" process I guess we will be dying while waiting for approval... :).
Hi, Are. Yes. It is no longer listed on Amazon. I tried ordering some from Walmart but they said "Out of Stock until further notice." I see some available online for very high prices. GoSupps seems to have some for sale, for a decent price, but I know nothing about them. I may try one bottle from them and see what happens.
Hi Akshay,
Do you need to match the gender of the animal used in E5 to the gender
of the person getting the treatment?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Akshay, what’s your opinion on chemically induced reprogramming? I do not know the first 3 molecules but the last three are very well known Sodium Butyrate, Valproic Acid and Forskolin. What would happen if we would take the last three I mentioned for a few days? Maybe histones will acetylate and it will spread some Euchromatin to the genome? Thanks
For some reason I do not get emails for new messages like I used to before. My friend Larry told me about messages on this post. Azza chemical reprogramming will have a limited effect with chances of off target changes as well. This is also true for other types of induced reprogramming.