I have promoted the idea that aging is programmed and that the program is epigenetic. Hence epigenetic age is fundamental. But what is it that imprints epidemic age on the chromosomes and keeps it updated? Is the “methylation clock” responding to a higher authority, a separate clock which coordinates epigenetic age throughout the body? Do epigenetic clocks in different tissues talk to each other? Such questions are important not just for theoretical understanding, but also because they have two practical consequences. (1) Can we rejuvenate the body with system-wide signaling, or do we have to de-age cell-by-cell? (2) Can we be confident that if we set back the body’s methylation age the person will feel younger and live longer?
I have been reading and thinking about these questions for several weeks, and I can report no clear answers.
Is aging a cell-by-cell deterioration, or is it orchestrated at the level of the whole body and managed through signal molecules in the blood? If pressed, I think everyone would have to admit there is some of each, and differences within the community of aging biologists are about the relative importance of the former vs the latter.
One thing I think we ought to be able to agree on is that the system level, including signal molecules in the blood, makes a vastly more accessible target for anti-aging interventions. Repairing the body cell-by-cell is a daunting proposition; whereas modifying levels of signal molecules in the blood is a piece of cake, once we identify those molecules and determine their optimal youthful levels. The words “low-hanging fruit” come to mind, as well as “Pascal’s wager”.
If there are multiple, independent aging clocks, it is probable that the one that registers the oldest age is the one that can kill us, independent of the others. To make the big leaps in life extension that we are looking for, we probably will need to reset all the clocks. How much do the cell-level and system-level clocks talk to each other? How much progress can we expect to make by working at the (more accessible) system level without addressing the (more challenging) cell-level aging?
| Why is the preponderance of research devoted to aging at the cellular level? A small part of the explanation comes from scientific inertia; aging was understood in terms of increased cellular entropy for many years, whereas the paradigm of central control remained in a Russian backwater until publication of the Stanford parabiosis experiments in 2005. A larger part of the explanation has been the infusion of venture capital into aging research in the last decade. You can’t patent hormones and you can’t make money from rebalancing blood levels of the body’s native signal molecules. I believe that the profit motive has deeply corrupted aging research, as it corrupted medical research through the previous century. |
I am passionate about these issues, but I leave them aside to talk about questions of fundamental interest: Differential gene expression—epigenetics, and methylation in particular— seem able to change the body’s age state. It seems clear that gene expression is the primary way in which the age state of the body is transmitted and coordinated system-wide. But is gene expression the end of the line, the ultimate upstream aging clock? Or is there a “higher authority” that keeps track of time and programs the body’s methylation, etc accordingly? Does the epigenetic state of the body constitute an autonomous time-keeping mechanism, or is there a time-keeping reference clock, perhaps in the hypothalamus, which dictates the body’s age through secretions, and distant cells respond to these secretions by adjusting their methylation patterns?
And, if the answer is that methylation constitutes an independent clock, does that clock advance cell-by-cell independently, or does gene expression at the cell level export proteins that coordinate methylation age across the body?
I don’t have answers, but several experiments bear on these questions, and offer a nuanced outlook.
The practical question
We need measures of biological age in order to efficiently tell us when we are on the right track with an anti-aging intervention. Methylation clocks are presently the best technology we have for measuring biological age. So, can we be confident that if an intervention sets back the methylation clock that the intervention really is making a person (or animal) younger?
Reasons to think yes:
- Methylation clocks track chronological age better than any other biomarker
- Some of the difference between methylation age and chronological age is meaningful. It correlates with mortality. In other words, each of the major methylation clocks is a better predictor of life expectancy than chronological age. Remarkably, this is true even for the clock algorithms that were trained only on chronological age.
- There are theoretical reasons for believing that epigenetics is the primary driver of aging, so that methylation changes may actually be close to the causal nexus of biological age. (This conclusion is especially cogent for theorists like me who believe that aging is an evolutionary program; however, there are also prominent scientists in the field who reject programmed aging but embrace epigenetics as a primary driver of aging.)
Two things that could go wrong:
- There could be a higher authority, a centralized clock that sets up the methylation state. If this is the case, then setting back the body’s methylation age may be temporary, and the methylation state will revert to the age programmed by a central clock. (Cavadas and Cai have adduced evidence that aging signals are transmitted from the hypothalamus.)
- In the worst case, methylation changes with age could be an adaptive response when the body senses the accumulation of damage. In other words, the body changes its gene expression when damaged because it is working overtime to repair that damage. In this case, resetting methylation state to a younger age just makes the body less able to cope with the consequences of aging and actually shortens lifespan.
Evidence from parabiosis
In parabiosis, a young mouse is surgically joined to an older mouse of the same genotype. Tissues of the old mouse respond by becoming functionally younger. Since this 19th-century finding was brought to the modern scientific community, the search has been on for chemical factors in the blood that either promote aging or promote youth. [read more].
The parabiosis phenomenon and related findings in rejuvenation through blood plasma transfusions has led to a paradigm that says aging is coordinated throughout the body by signals in the blood. To the extent that single cells age, this is happening under central control, and the process can even be reversed if the cell is exposed to the right signals.
BUT
Evidence from bone marrow transplants
Bone marrow transplants are the most powerful available treatment for leukemia, and are also applied for some rarer diseases. The bone marrow comes with the epigenetic age of the donor, and thus the (white) blood cells subsequently generated by the transplanted bone marrow also carry age information. Several different studies [ref, ref, ref, ref] have found consistently that the white blood cells (and presumably the bone marrow from whence they came) retain the age signature of the donor. The donor may be younger or older than the patient. In either case, the methylation age of the patient’s white blood cells—post-op and for years afterward—remains keyed to the donor and does not correlate significantly with the patient’s age.
The lesson of parabiosis experiments was supposed to be that cell aging is not cell-autonomous, but rather a response to signals in the blood that instruct the cells what age to be. Young somatic cells could be aged rapidly in an old blood plasma environment, and — more impressively — old somatic cells could be made younger in a young environment.
Now we have a series of bone marrow transplant studies where the methylation age of the donor is the determining factor, not the patient into which the marrow was transplanted. Bone marrow contains the stem cells from which blood cells grow. Blood cells turn over every few months and they represent an accessible tissue sample which reflects the age state of the bone marrow in approximately real time.
“We found that the DNAm age of the reconstituted blood was not influenced by the recipient’s age, even 17 years after HSCT, in individuals without relapse of their hematologic disorder.” Soraas et al (2019)
This seems on its face to contradict our paradigm from parabiosis that says cell age is not cell-autonomous, but is programmed by the environment. How can we interpret the two results together? Some possibilities…
- Maybe only differentiated somatic cells are susceptible to age programming by plasma proteins, and not stem cells.
- Maybe these stem cells are providing the biochemical environment in the plasma. Maybe the stem cells and the white blood cells that they generate are the agents that secrete the plasma proteins responsible for sending age signals.
- Please think creatively about other possibilities.
Another result from these bone marrow studies
Consistently, the blood cells get older after transplant, whether they are transplanted from young-to-old or from old-to-young. This says two things. First, the point of comparison is the donor age, i.e., the age of the cells pre-transplant, and not the age of the patient who is associated with the systemic environment. Second, the cells seem to age rapidly after transplant, as measured by the methylation age. From there, the age of the cells may (in some studies) revert slowly to their original age trajectory over a period of several years.
Why the rapid methylation aging? It seems like a good guess that the rapid aging initially comes from high rates of reproduction in these transplanted cells that are generating a whole new source of much-needed blood. Could this be a link between telomeres and methylation age (which previously were found to be inversely correlated? Or is there another mechanism by which stem cells keep track of the number of times they have divided asymmetrically?
Am I the only one asking these questions?
Already a decade ago I was thinking about the question How Does the Body Know How Old It Is? Questions about time-keeping mechanisms and coordination of age information through the body go hand-in-hand with conceptions of aging as a programmed phenomenon, and perhaps the prejudice against programmed aging helps to explain the fact that few aging researchers are thinking in this way. A welcome exception is this article by Argentine gerontologists, which I was delighted to discover just yesterday. Lehmann et al: Hierarchical Model for the Control of Epigenetic Aging.
Although there is evidence suggesting that the cellular epigenetic clock possesses an intrinsic ticking rate [ref, ref, ref] multiple observations at organismal level in humans and other mammals lead to the inference that in vivo, the ticking rate of the clock in tissues is synchronized by a master pacemaker.
Lehmann cites as prima facie evidence for this
For a given chronological age, it was found that in DNA samples taken from whole blood, peripheral blood mononuclear cells, buccal epithelium, colon, adipose, liver, lung, saliva, and uterine cervix, Horvath’s algorithm read essentially the same epigenetic age, the only exceptions being some brain regions and very few other organs.
In addition, she cites Katcher’s success in rejuvenating rats (and their diverse organs) using only a set of intravenous signals. The article goes on to propose a model in which there are four time-keepers in the body, coordinated by signals in the circulatory systems. The four are:
- Methylation
- Light-sensing and neural processing
- Neuroendocrine signaling (esp the suprachiasmatic Nucleus of the Hypothalamus)
- The Immune system, including thymic involution
Curiously, she does not include the replication counter implicit in telomere shortening, which Fossel, Blasco and other luminaries have adduced as the primary source of aging. I also would add that the hypothalamus is the best candidate we have, not just for one aging clock among several, but as a central, coordinating organ.
Fig. 1. Proposed organismal regulatory network in mammals. The diagram includes the autonomic nervous system (ANS, acting via neurotransmitters), the neuroendocrine system (NES, acting via blood-borne hormones), the immune system (acting via blood-borne cytokines and thymic hormones), the circadian clocks (acting via blood-borne hormones and neurotransmitters) and a putative pathway connecting the neuroendocrine network to the DNAm clock in organs and cells. All networks act on peripheral organs. Inset- Bidirectional interactions among all networks including (in red) the hypothetical DNAm network.
In addition to Lehmann, there is a 2021 review by Raj and Horvath, speculation from the horse’s mouth. They note that all the Horvath clocks are based on small differences in % of cells methylated at a given site (conventionally notated as β).
Increase in epigenetic age is contributed by changes of methylation profiles in a very small percent of cells in a population.
One way to interpret this fact (my speculation, not R&H) is that immune sensitivity, (anti-) oxidation, and inflammation are all under tight homeostasis in the body, because these are sensitive functions, balanced on a knife edge between insufficient protection and self-destruction. It is easy to tip the balance over toward self-destruction with small changes in the set point for a few signal molecules in blood plasma.
Another way to interpret this (again, my speculation) is that it is only a handful of cells at the tail end of the distribution that go over an edge into a state where they cause all the damage of aging. This hypothesis is consonant with the story about short telomeres, cell senescence, SASP, and the powerful benefit of senolytics. However, a big hole in the narrative is that it requires a set of CpG’s that would be capable of precipitously tipping the cell over into a toxic state. We know that critically short telomeres can do this, but there is no study yet of methylation-induced cell senescence. R&H speculate about such a mechanism connected with PCR=Polychrome Repressive Complex.
Raj and Horvath also stress the continuity between epigenetic changes that begin in utero, associated with development, and the changes that lead to senescence late in life. Blagosklonny as well has emphasized this point.
“Collectively, these five features of DNA methylation allow one to summarize with some degree of certainty that epigenetic ageing is a measure of change of epigenetic heterogeneity, contributed by a relatively small percentage of cells, seemingly in line with developmental processes that are conserved across species and begins very soon after conception. This seemingly inescapable deduction provides us with a reference point against which models and hypotheses can be measured.”
If I may carry the logic of these two experts one step further, I would emphasize the role that methylation has in determining what hormones and enzymes are secreted into the blood. Therein lies the possibility that intracell methylation clocks are coordinating, both with other cells and with other clocks, via signal molecules in blood plasma.
Other provocative findings that we might hope to integrate into a theory of aging
The methylomes of naked mole rats age at a normal rate, but the phenotypes of the rats themselves show no signs of age [ref]. Males and females age epigenetically in somewhat different ways [ref]. Methyl donor molecules in the diet can lead to a younger methylome, with benefits both for hyper- and hyomethylated regions (validated for MTHFR snps only) [ref]. When human fibroblasts are reprogrammed (with RNA) to turn them into neurons, they remember their Horvath age even after forgetting their identity [ref]. BMI is associated with accelerated methylation aging [ref]. Mice challenged with a high-fat diet can be brought back to normal weight with a normal diet, but accelerated methylation aging persists [ref]. Cessation of smoking decreases Hannum and Horvath DNAmAge [href]. The methylation shadow cast by years of smoking is a better predictor of subsequent morbidity and mortality than the smoking history itself [ref]. Methylation image of telomere length is a better prediction of age and mortality than is telomere length itself [ref]. Pregnancy increases Hannum Age, DNAmAge, and PhenoAge [ref].
(Apologies to Rafil Kroll-Zaiti)
| Bulletin
Katcher has been conducting a longevity trial for rats treated with E5 (background story here). Partial results suggest that treated rats are living statistically longer than untreated, but not as much as you would expect if the greatly reduced methylation age indicated full rejuvenation. The results are preliminary, and I will publish a full analysis in this space as soon as I can get the detailed dataset. The finding, if validated, suggests that multiple clocks in the body are not completely synchronized, and the “fastest clock wins”, meaning that it kills the animal no matter what the other clocks may say. |
Conclusions
I am disappointed as you are in not being able to provide fundamental answers, but I hope that (together with Lehmann, Goya, Raj, and Horvath) we have provided a framework and a set of questions that can guide fundamental research. Very few other researchers are addressing these questions, and the answers will be crucial both for devising effective interventions and also for measuring the effectiveness of interventions that we already have.
Discussion
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Jeff Bowles points out that truncated proteins are known to cause various rapid aging pathologies. Most proteins are assembled from multiple mRNA's via "splicing factors" which become damaged with aging. Professor Lorna Harries at University of Exeter Medical school has shown resveratrol totally restores splicing factors to a youthful state in old cell cultures. Hypothetically repeated doses of resveratrol can do the same for aging humans..
Hi Richard! you are focusing on the final push for the end solution of aging! I am working with Lorna (via email chats) right now to finish the whole puzzle. It turns out that as we age Steve Horvath has found that one gene gets turned on called LARP1 which has an RNA binding domain which is very rare. It likely improperly truncates the ATM protein RNA to make the mutated ATM protein which causes ataxia telangiectasia. Normal ATM protein controls RNA spicing all over the genome. When the protein is in the mutant form it screws up RNA from all sorts of genes including the lamin A protein that is truncated in progeria it also looks like it truncates the normal WRN RNA in normal aging -this WRN protein is mutated in Werner's syndrome- (based on a study I found) -inhibiting ATM protein rescues both progeria and Werner's cells- but i believe the researchers did not realize they were inhibiting mutated ATM protein caused by improper aging-related RNA truncations not normal ATM.....it also attacks the mitochondria to cause mutations... So if aging is programmed why not just attack DNA instead of RNA? Because I have come up with the first hallmark of programmed aging- all aging has to be reversible so you can run the program backwards and get embryonic stem cells from adult cells (what harold is doing to a limited extent). If you damaged the DNA that would screw everything up! that s why thiws part of the aging program only attacks RNA transcripts!
because it is totally reversible and does not damage the DNA. Lorna also has found 2 other genes are doing the same thing FOXO1 and ETV6 she says these are more powerful than ATM in causing splicing errors and these are downstream from AKT and ERK I found both ATM and AKT control production of Lamin A which is mutated (truncated) in progeria and during normal aging. She has written a HUGE paper on this>>> FOXO1 and ETV6 genes may represent novel regulators of splicing factor expression in cellular senescence
and it only has 3 citations! One of them form her! Nobody knows how far ahead she is! It is kind of funny! She is way ahead of her time and in my book on aging I am working on I might describe her as aging science after Horvath!
Could you provide the source for the paper? I should like to read it.
Small molecule modulation of splicing factor expression is associated with rescue from cellular senescence https://bmcmolcellbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12860-017-0147-7
Thank you for the paper link.
Professor Lorna Harries publications: https://medicine.exeter.ac.uk/people/profile/index.php?web_id=Lorna_Harries
Here’s a fascinating study showing the transformation of old human skin into young skin after being transplanted onto a young mouse.
They were able to isolate the protein responsible to vascular endothelial growth factor, or VEGF-A. This supports their theory of angiogenesis and anti aging.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm6756
One issue here is that VEGF is associated with cancer , and more specifically, metastatic cancer. In fact, inhibition of VEGF is one of the primary anti cancer mechanisms of rapamycin. Is this, like with telomeres, going to be one of those trade off debates?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11821896/
That is a very interesting study, and relevant here as VEGF-A is identified as a systemic factor leading to organ (in this case skin) rejuvenation. Of course as the resident telomere champion I must point out that VEGF-A benefits to angiogenesis require telomerase activity, see: Telomerase Mediates Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor
dependent Responsiveness in a Rat Model of Hind Limb Ischemia
Intriguing.
Maybe other proteins are involved, too.
Skin cells that express a high level of COL17A1,divide symmetrically, outcompete and eliminate stressed clones that express low levels of COL17A1, which divide asymmetrically.
Hemidesmosome component collagen XVII, or ( COL17A1) has also been shown to encourage replication of healthy skin and discourage replication of old damaged skin.
To maintain healthy levels of COL17A1 in skin? Researchers found two potential chemicals that might help: apocynin and something called “Y27632.”
Collagen 17, is a specific type of collagen protein that is critical for rooting the stem cell to the basement membrane.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/anti-aging-discovery-could-lead-to-restorative-skin-treatments/
That is basically a stem cell competition argument. Symmetrically dividing clones will come to predominate over asymmetrically dividing ones. Y27632 is a ROCK inhibitor, so it is preventing full differentiation, i.e. keeping precursor cells as precursor cells. It would of course be a fine balance as if all stem cells divided only symmetrically we'd all be dead.
I find it incredible that such a long discussion of the development/aging process has not once mentioned Vince Giuliano and his pinpointing of H3K27me3 as a major participant. The fact that this trimethylation occurs within 4 hours of the onset of egg laying in nematodes and turns off a great number of cellular repair mechanisms would seem to strongly support the programmed theory of aging at the expense of the it's all just damage folks.
In any event, I am beginning to wonder if the word "clock" shouldn't be changed to "stage" or something to reflect that aging, like development, is a series of states that occur in a predetermined order (the plan or program). This is not to say that stochastic damage does not occur, only that it is the programmed ability to deal with it that is important. Consider the largemouth buffalo fish whose fecundity and repair ability both increase with age.
In 2014, a DNAm "clock" was developed that used only THREE CpG sites with a purported error of less than 5 years. In 2019, CRISPR technology was used to change the methylation state of CpG sites related to the Oct4 gene which resulted in a changed expression of said gene. Unfortunately, other epigenetic changes were not measured. Nonetheless, it would seem that the intervention would not have directly changed other epigenetic factors (histone modification, chromatin remodeling, post-translational alterations, etc.) except downstream as an effect of the changed gene expression. An in vivo experiment changing just the 3 sites of the 2014 clock might yield some interesting results. Meanwhile, DNAm now seems more causal than I previously thought.
Notwithstanding the above, to unravel all the interactions of changes in thousands of gene expressions in order to fully understand the development/aging process seems well beyond current capabilities. Finding regenerative treatments would seem more likely to occur by intelligent trial and error. Analysis of the mechanisms of action of treatments that seem to work such as revealed by the ITP could point to more potent interventions. When the makeup of E5 is revealed, a lot more of the mechanisms of aging might become known.
Hi Josh
The acceleration of methylation age parallels the shortening of telomeres that accompanies HSC implantation and expansion into peripheral blood cell types.
Whereas in the case of telomeres the mechanistic cause is obvious, for methylation changes are likely reflecting shortfalls in the available material for the remethylation (then demethylation) process that comes after the creation of the daughter strand in DNA replication. Hence why additional telomerase can make this appear worse, as it permits more divisions.
It may be that differential strand methylation is actually what drives asymmetrical as opposed to symmetrical division. But further 'error' is likely just reflective of further cellular division and/or DNA repair, which also requires the methylation machinery.
All this suggests to me that methylation is reflecting the balance of cellular turnover and DNA repair and the ability of the methylation machinery to keep up and is not itself the driver of aging. Therefore judging the success or failure of anti aging efforts by this measure is likely to lead to disappointment.
New study demonstrating that in extreme longevity, hypothalamic function is intact.
Suggests a relationship between the two.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.13656
Alternatively it is not a clock, but a gradual failure of cell processes through a lack of acetylation of the histone which drives the rest including methylation.
John, bravo! I was wondering when someone would point out that histone modification may be even more controlling than DNA methylation. I know that some correlation between DNA methylation and histone modification has been suggested, but I am unaware of any study that shows that histone modifications are controlling. Could you provide a reference?
I wrote this section "Chromatin as a substrate for epigenetic regulation of cellular aging" as part of a review on social forces and aging (references also added below):
Nearly all of the above-described research focused on DNA methylation, which is relatively easy to measure and done most often using leukocytes, which might not be representative of other tissues. As stressed by Cao-Lei, et al. (2017), the complexity of epigenetics means we have as yet little understanding of how different epigenetic mechanisms might interact to regulate gene expression. Chromatin is highly relevant because its component histones can be epigenetically “marked” through methylation, acetylation, phosphorylation, or ubiquitination, leading to changes in expression of associated genes (Cao-Lei, et al., 2017; Szyf, 2009; Tikhodeyev, 2018). Aging has been associated with transcriptional deterioration as a result of impaired chromatin functioning, with increasing mitochondrial dysfunction considered a likely cause (Perez-Gomez, et al., 2020).
Changes in the 3-D structure of chromatin can also modulate gene expression, which like DNA methylation also involves CpG sites. As explained by Lee, et al. (2021), the chromatin architecture of each cell type is optimized for precise gene expression. However, this architecture is liable to disorganization over time which “has long been speculated to be the primary culprit behind age-associated physiological deterioration” due to its association with normal aging, cellular senescence, and premature aging diseases (p. 1). Their research suggests critical differences between genes with versus those without high frequencies of CpG dinucleotides, called CpG islands, in their promoter regions. In mammals, about 60% of genes have CpG islands and are generally expressed throughout the body, while about 40% do not and tend to be expressed only in specific tissues. Evidence suggests that genes without CpG islands are much more liable to be misexpressed, leading to “age-related physiological deterioration, notably for increased secretion of inflammatory mediators” (p. 1). This proposal is supported by a relatively rare example of primate research on chromatin epigenetics, in which female rhesus monkey social status was experimentally manipulated. Falls from higher to lower social status, as well as low initial social status, were found to be associated with lower chromatin accessibility and hence reduced expression of certain immune cell genes, which might help explain why low status is associated with high inflammation (Snyder-Mackler, et al., 2019).
Cao-Lei, L., De Rooij, S. R., King, S., Matthews, S. G., Metz, G. A. S., Roseboom, T. J., & Szyf, M. (2017). Prenatal stress and epigenetics. Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews, 117, 198-210.
Lee, J. Y., Davis, I., Youth, E. H., Kim, J., Churchill, G., Godwin, J., ... & Beck, S. (2021). Misexpression of genes lacking CpG islands drives degenerative changes during aging. Science Advances, 7(51), Article eabj9111.
Perez-Gomez, A., Buxbaum, J. N., & Petrascheck, M. (2020). The aging transcriptome: Read between the lines. Current Opinion in Neurobiology, 63, 170-175.
Snyder-Mackler, N., Sanz, J., Kohn, J. N., Voyles, T., Pique-Regi, R., Wilson, M. E., ... & Tung, J. (2019). Social status alters chromatin accessibility and the gene regulatory response to glucocorticoid stimulation in rhesus macaques. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 116(4), 1219-1228.
Szyf, M. (2009). Epigenetics, DNA methylation, and chromatin modifying drugs. Annual Review of Pharmacology and Toxicology, 49, 243–263.
Tikhodeyev, O. N. (2018). The mechanisms of epigenetic inheritance: How diverse are they? Biological Reviews, 93(4), 1987-2005.
There are quite a few references for the crosstalk between acetylation and methylation eg
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3711869/
However, IMO acetylation has to be the first step.
The reference appears to me to be talking about crosstalk between histone modifications. An admittedly quick read by my 81-year-old grey cells found no mention of CpG methylation. I am thus still without a good explanation of the relationships of DNA methylation and other epigenetic mechanisms.
It is obvious that epigenetics includes not only DNA methylation, but also histone modifications of many kinds plus changes in the structure of chromatin (that is very well established). This is true independently of the fact that only CpG methylation clocks have been investigated up to date. There is an obvious need of studying also the other two main types of epigenetics acting on histones and chromatin structure (both are surely extremely important for aging and control and cross-talk with the gens of the nuclear aging program)
Methylation is just one of many epigenetic mechanisms. It's a historic accident that methylation is the easiest measurement to make, and the breakthrough in clocks came with methylation clocks. Maybe the future of aging clocks is in proteomics, where (1) we integrate the effects of all epigenetic mechanisms and (2) we have a more direct way of knowing the phenotypic effects of the data points.
It seems that the clock that coordinates development must be present just after conception.
If that clock ticks based on days it seems that an experiment on mice subjected to longer light/dark cycles might show up in epigenetic age or longer lives.
Totally plausible. Day/light cycles determine sleeping and eating cycles, which determine transcription and various internal cellular reactions that drive epigenetic changes.
Dear Edmund O Kelly,
I saw experiment in mice by perhaps the most famous Spanish biology researcher Juan Carlos Izpizsua (Nature paper?) previously at UDSA now working at China. They treated mice with Yamanaka factors but the curves published stop at middle age! so they do not demonstrate anything concerning life span extension. And they used short-lived strains as controls. All too badly designed for gerontology standards.
Did I miss it but you did not seem to discuss the recent experiment treating mice with doses of Yamanaka factors that seemingly reduced affects of aging without deleterious side effects. Altos labs with $B in funding and an impressive array of participants (including Yamanaka and Horvath) seems to be pursuing this avenue.
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/cellular-rejuvenation-therapy-safely-reverses-signs-of-aging-in-mice/
Hi Edmund I think that was a few posts ago
I have an annual Portulaca Oleracea in the pot (still 2 out of 3, the third flowered and produced seed bags before I noticed early in spring) growing the second season. I just cut the shoots before they start flowering. It's just one of the many examples of species that naturally die long before they could have lived long after. So the master program is the main obstacle to longer living for now. Methylation is the result of this program (which is controlling dropping level of AKG, epithalon, GHK-Cu and unknown number of other still unknown factors, which in turn manifest as methylation aging), not the driving factor, but it may be useful indicator of this program and maybe just maybe interventions on it. But beyond this there are factors of pure deterioration, like AGEs and lipofuscin and other factors that the body don't know how to fix. Both programmed aging and demage repair (after controlling master program they will be more evident) must be mastered before radical life extension will take place.
Hi there-YES the flowering and "going to seed" of annual plants is an excellent example of what is controlling at least one aspect of aging (I believe there are 2 major aging systems 1. sex/reproduction related (seen at an accelerated rate in humans in Werner's Syndrome which kicks in at puberty) 2. somatic (seen at an accelerated rate in the rapid aging disease of progeria which kicks in at infancy) I have not researched this but I would suspect that the hormones that cause the annual plant to develop from a seed into a plant and then to flower and then die are all the same hormones- the development/reproduction/aging hormones (at least that's seems to be how it works in humans with LH and FSH). So if plants are aging in the same manner as humans, different levels of the same hormones cause different stages of development reproduction and death. If you pinch off the flowers of an annual plant before they make seeds the plant can live a much longer and healthier. In fact in the American Colonies tobacco growers were required by law to remove any and all buds to prevent flowering of tobacco that was to be sold for consumption. Similarly if you castrate a pacific salmon it can live 7 years+ instead of rapidly dying at age 3. Reports of Korean Eunuchs (serving in the ancient king's court) suggest castration may allow males to live 15 years longer on average than intact males . I expect in flowering plants, that the flowers and seeds themselves are cranking out much higher levels of the development/reproduction/aging hormones. And if changes in DNA methylation are the ultimate cause of aging and death- then we may have identified the upstream regulators as hormones.
>"flowers and seeds themselves are cranking out much higher levels of the development/reproduction/aging hormones"
Or the production of seeds are using up resources that cannot be replenished.
I wonder if the dwindling sex drive in aging males is a kind of self preservation
to not burn up much needed resources and prolong homeostasis.
HAHA that's kind of a version of Kirkwood's disposable soma theory that so much resources and effort go into reproduction that the soma (body is an afterthought) and can be disposed of....maybe it's a path and reproduction strategy that the plant choose in its evolutionary path.. but that sure is a huge sacrifice of your genetic contribution to the gene pool as compared to being able to continue to reproduce every year which we know is possible when you look at the existence of annuals. I suspect that there is some sort of evolutionary advantage that the plant dying has and that is why its death is programmed. For example in the case of bamboo trees they live a long time but trees of the same species all around the world flower drop seed and all die at the same time- and it is always a large prime number of years. (usually between 40 and 80 years) sometimes as high as 130 ish..this seems to be a predator avoidance strategy so that a predator can't easily time the flowering to feed off of the seeds of flowering bamboo tree. This is similar to the reproduction/life cycle strategy of the cicada which hatches abd comes out of the groupnd every 17 years to have a mass mating orgy and ehn lay eggs and die and then wait another 167 years to be reborn...17 is a prime number...
Here are all the prime numbers up to 200..... I am sure that all bamboo species will have ages at which they flower as one of these prime numbers.>>>>
2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97,101, 103, 107, 109, 113, 127, 131, 137, 139, 149, 151, 157, 163, 167, 173, 179, 181, 191, 193, 197, 199
I also believe there is some sort of evolutionary advantage for Pacific Salmon to rapidly age and die right after mating and laying their eggs. The massive amount of salmon carcasses laying around provide a superabundance of food for predators and scavengers that they won't spend much time eating the salmon eggs on the river's bottom.
Pacific Salmon are killed by a huge surge of LH and FSH right before and during spawning upt o 15,000% Similar to but much higher than humans' 500 to 1000% increase in LH and FSH around age 50.
Likewise, bamboo flowering and death are also controlled by hormones.
So the bottom line is I suspect the disposable soma theory as being the reason annual plants die as they produce seeds is likely not the correct answer. I think it confers some sort of evolutionary advantage toward the survival of the seeds. Either it fertilizes the ground where the seeds will drop, or possible a dead plant looks un appetizing to a potential seed predator. kind of like a possum playing dead to avoid being eaten.!
I suspect many present interventions to prolong health and life, like calorie restriction, stalling development and reproduction, are merely hurdles we throw into the path of an evolutionary program that is running from birth over organism growth, possible reproduction and offspring protection to death.
Abstinence from reproduction may add some years to life, as we see in monks living in monasteries but finally they also meet their end.
The immune system follows a regulating principle were single cells are seen expendable for the greater good of the whole organism as millions of cells are driven into apoptosis or are killed off each day.
Maybe the seeds of our early progenitors carried a program where the greater good was an increase in the survival probability of all the brothers and sisters in the seeds, when the generation had a limited life span.
It would need different approaches wether aging is just biophysical decay, accumulation of unhealthy metabolites, progressing methylation of genes, stem cell depletion etc, or a basic program which constantly regulates in the background with the final target of organism death.
In that case we would have to constantly intervene against a master program, wether we clear senescent cells or supplement decreasing biosynthesis of enzymes like NAD.
Regarding plants I found an interesting paper from 2008 where the blocking of two proteins changes the phenotype of an annual plant into a longer living one of a perennial shrub. "Flowering-time genes modulate meristem determinacy and growth form in Arabidopsis thaliana" (doi:10.1038/ng.253).
Sadly for humans we do not know of an alternative longer living form to transform into like a flowering plant can transform into a woody plant.
Regarding disposable soma, has anybody noticed the apparent course reversal of its developer, Thomas KIRKWOOD, probably the most prominent opponent of programmed aging? See:
Omholt, S. W., & Kirkwood, T. B. (2021). Aging as a consequence of selection to reduce the environmental risk of dying. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 118(22), Article e2102088118.
In this article, Omholt and Kirkwood essentially abandon the central tenet of disposable soma, namely early-late life energetic trade-offs across growth, maintenance, and reproduction. But they provide barely any explanation and absolutely no historical context. Their aim here seems to be to save disposable soma by restating it: “In essence, the disposable soma theory proposes that natural selection should favor allocation to somatic maintenance only as much as is necessary to keep the organism in good functional condition for as long as it has a reasonable chance still to be alive, subject to the prevailing level of risk.” (p. 1)
Instead of trade-offs, they proposed that “natural selection might drive the establishment of a genetic program that leads to reduced allocation to somatic maintenance from an initial state where there is no such reduction” (p. 6). Although energy thus saved might be invested elsewhere, trade-offs “will not involve somatic maintenance as such” (p. 7). Rather, the adaptive purpose of just-enough-energy-allocation-to-maintenance would be to reduce mortality risk, with their prime example being reduced need for energy-seeking activities (e.g., foraging, hunting) and hence fewer contacts with abiotic and biotic sources of mortality. They also suggested that increased energy storage might be programmed to reduce mortality risk by providing backup for surviving environmental challenges, mobilizing the immune system, or detoxifying contaminants.
This seems far from some “universal physiological principle” explaining aging, as they promised in the introduction!
@Wayne, the Bigmouth Buffalo fish has no telomere shortening, therefore it doesn't age.
Jeff is probably right that with no predation and a stable, pleasant environment evolution selects for a longer life rather than the breed
-quick, die-young, fast life strategy that plagues most mammal species.
Jeff, what causes the "huge surge of LH and FSH right before and during spawning upt o 15,000% Similar to but much higher than humans’ 500 to 1000% increase in LH and FSH around age 50. " ?
It seems very important to investigate.
Are the driving changes localized or global/systemic ?
If the changes, at some stage, are local to some part (organ/tissue/gland), maybe removing that part can eliminate that LH/FSH surge and allow much longer lifespan?
This is a testable hypothesis with today's technology. There are drugs used in treating late stage prostate cancer that act as "chemical" castration. They block the creation of both LH and FSH. What ose would be needed for only partially blocking LH/FSH is unknown, but testable in animal models.
Josh, thanks for your excellent post on methylation and aging clocks.
At the end of your post, just before the "Conclusions" you state: " ....suggests that multiple clocks in the body are not completely synchronized, and the “fastest clock wins”, meaning that it kills the animal no matter what the other clocks may say.".
But if this were true, then the non-PA argument against a single master clock would be valid, because INDIVIDUAL selection would eliminate such "fastest clock", because it would strongly decrease the fitness of the individual.
In fact the escape to this problem by PA proponents has allways been that there are more than one intermediate level msster clocks. This is analogois to my postulation of various intermediate hierarchical level Master genes instead of a sungle MASTER GENE inside the cell nuclus Aging Program (Barjs, Biogerontology,2008, 2019), to avoid this classucal problem of individual selecton eliminatin a SINGLE master clock in the body and a sungle Master gene in the Cell Nuclear Aging Program.
Multiple Mastter clocks or genes could be a way out of this neo-Dsrwinistic classic criticism on PA. What do you think og this relevant problem?
Maybe one of the ways to find the Master Timekeeper would be to find all the body processes, cells, etc that are dependent or connected to the SAME gland, organ, body function,,blood marrow, blood signals or nervous system by direct or indirect
connection. This SAME _____?? could be the Master Timekeeper.
Obviously this would be a daunting task but maybe biologists of the human body have ways to do this?
Christa