NR is a supplement that affects energy generation in mitochondria and gene regulation through the same pathway as resveratrol and caloric restriction. It has been promoted in recent months, and this month is featured in Life Extension Magazine. But evidence for its life expectancy benefit is indirect. There have been no positive results for fruit flies, let alone mice. If it works in humans, benefits will likely be limited to people who are overweight. And there are reasons to expect only limited benefits from the pathways through which NR works.
Reading about a new life extension supplement, I get excited when I see “we fed it to mice and they lived X% longer”, or better yet, “In preliminary human trials, mortality was found to be Y% lower.” The articles about NR are full of biochemical pathways and chains of genes that promote other genes. In my way of thinking, all the biochemistry is important for generating ideas, but the proof of the pudding is in life extension trials. Lab experiments on live mice run hundreds of thousands of dollars to test a single compound. We can’t be testing everything under the sun, so we rely on biochemistry for plausible candidates. But jumping from biochemical theory to marketing of a supplement is a leap of faith that leaves me behind.
Worms and flies are much cheaper to breed than mice, and the experiments last weeks instead of years. Furthermore, genetics of these lower animals is well-understood, and easy to manipulate. Experiments with worms and flies provide an intermediate proving ground for ideas before the expensive life span trials with rodents. The ultimate yield is low. There are many interventions that work well to extend life in flies that don’t work in mammals.
NR and Resveratrol
Resveratrol, which works along similar biochemical pathways to NR, was all the rage from about 2003 to 2006. First discovered in yeast, its mechanism of action was mapped out. Len Guarente at MIT and others from his lab put the SIR gene on the map, and coined the term “sirtuins” for substances that activate these genes.
Excitement mounted as resveratrol was shown to extend life span in worms, and then flies. A young scientist in Italy launched his career by introducing a short-lived African fish to laboratory genetics. Nothobranchius lives only a few months, one of the shortest life spans of any vertebrate. For his PhD dissertation, Dario Ricardo Valenzano (2006) safaried to Africa to bring back samples of Nothobranchius, figured out how to breed them in the lab, and demonstrated they live 60% longer with resveratrol in their food.
Incidentally: Valenzano found best results for an intermediate dose of resveratrol, not the highest or the lowest dose. This has been a recurrent theme in resveratrol research: a little is better than none, but a lot isn’t better than a little.
Soon after Valenzano’s fish, it was reported that resveratrol failed to extend life span in mice. We were all disappointed. The result came from the Harvard lab of David Sinclair, Guarente’s most famous student, who was highly motivated to get good results because he had commercial ambitions for resveratrol derivatives. Sinclair reported that overweight mice that were fed a high-fat diet could be brought back to a normal life expectancy with resveratrol, but that normal-weight mouse received no life extension from the same treatment.
NR in experiments with lab animals
Almost all the literature on NR is about yeast cells. I can’t find a single study on flies or fish. I found one study of Alzheimer’s Disease in mice that did not look at life span, but the measured the plaques in the brain that are a symptom of AD. These are mice that are genetically engineered to be vulnerable to AD, because normally AD is absent in mice. They showed that feeding these mice NR slowed the progress of their mental decline, a good result that traces dietary cause all the way to behavioral effect, its ultimate benefit. Another mouse study showed metabolic benefits for mice that were fed to obesity. This was similar to the result for resveratrol, but not as strong because life extension for obese mice was recorded from resveratrol, but not from NR. The only study in worms showed a 16% life extension. This kind of performance would be impressive in mice, but there are many ways to double and triple the life span of worms that don’t work in mammals. (the record is tenfold increase in a genetically modified worms).;
Biochemistry of NR and NAD+ / NADH
Biomolecules are a huge variety of different geometric structures, based mostly on covalent bonds between carbon and carbon or between carbon and hydrogen. But the body’s energy metabolism is based on ionic bonds, because they store more energy in each bond. Ionic bonds form between atoms that are very different from each other, like sodium and chlorine in table salt. The standard biological energy repository is in phosphate bonds.
Every cell has hundreds of mitochondria, which are tiny energy factories that burn sugar and produce phosphates for the cell’s use. This energy generation process is an ancient biochemical trick called the Krebs Cycle, and is shared by all plants and animals today. NAD+ has a role to play in the Krebs Cycle, where it absorbs an electron to become NADH, and then is recycled to NAD+ again.
As we age, we lose mitochondria, and the mitochondria we have become less active. We have less of all the chemical intermediates of the Krebs Cycle, including CoQ10 and NADH. CoQ10 is an important anti-oxidant, soaking up ROS and converting their energy to useful form. CoQ10 has been found to improve heart health, but it has failed to extend life span in mice.
In addition to its role in the Krebs Cycle, NAD+ works through sirtuins. These are high-level chemical signals that can close up DNA into tight balls (facultative heterochromatin) selectively in certain places to block expression of many genes at once. NAD+ can turn on sirtuins in order to turn off a panoply of pro-aging genes. This has been shown to work well to slow aging in obese lab animals, but not normal animals. It works by some of the same pathways as caloric restriction, but without the restriction.
Saturation of the CR pathway
Life span is programmed in a flexible way, so as to respond to external mortality. Famine is one of the deadliest dangers for populations in nature, and so evolution has provided extra ruggedness in the face of starvation. Death from aging takes a vacation just when the death rate from starvation is highest, helping to level out the overall death rate and protect against extinction.
The fact that life span is extended by hunger was first discovered in the 1930s, and many years later, the genes and biochemical pathways associated with sensing food scarcity have proven to be the most accessible, the easiest to manipulate.
Underfeeding, and tricking the body into thinking it is underfed, are the simplest, most fertile, and most reliable strategies for extending life span. On a percentage basis, these strategies work best in short-lived species. With caloric restriction we can double the life span of worms, add 40% to the life span of mice, but only 15% to dogs and 5% or less in Rhesus monkey experiments reported last year. So 3 to 5 years is an optimistic range for the available flexibility in humans via the caloric restriction pathway.
There are many ways to activate this pathway, either by eating less, exercising, or taking metformin or resveratrol, for example. The benefit you get from each of these do not add together; rather you are getting the same 3 years over and over again. So NR is likely to work best for people who are overweight and not taking metformin or resveratrol.
The bottom line
It may be that there have already been experiments feeding NR to mice or rats, but sometimes negative results don’t get published. I am going to wait and see before jumping on the NR bandwagon.
Discussion
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Hi Everyone!
I have been on the anti-aging gravy train for the last 4 years ( I am a 46 years of age, Male and in good health now). I experimented with NAD and other Sirtuins enhancing supplements. Gradually I developed the same problem of getting crashes and worse mood/cognition after a while. So I would stop and loose all the amazing benefits as well over time.
After some serious digging I found out that B3 derivatives and Mitochondrial enhancers may deplete Methylation and lower Serotonin causing all the doom and gloom. This was the Tipping Point or Secret Sause!
Since last 2 years I have been taking these supplements first thing in the morning and it is working like magic.
NMN = 200 mg
Resveratrol (98% pure) = 100 mg
TMG = 200 mg
Berberine = 100 mg
Exercise twice a week (Jogging and then a little strength training like Push-ups and Pull-ups)
At Dinner I take a Multivitamin.
Thats all...
Hope that helps
-By the way I ditched NR because I felt much better results with NMN (working in my body, of course it could be subjective).
-And Resveratrol for some reason improved my Serotonin!
-TMG took care of the Methylation depletion.
The fact you needed TMG is showing most NMN is ending up as NAM and not being recycled back into NMN via NAMPT.
(I experienced the same thing).
I see you're trying berberine for AMPK. Interesting to see if this helps even if you cut the TMG. Allicin and Taurine also raise NAMPT but this didn't help me.
I've been taking Nicotinamide Riboside since March 3, 2017. Two medical doctors, and one physician assistant in a third medical doctor's office, assumed it is the same thing as Nicotinamide when I told them that I am taking it. One of them even talked about the Nicotinamide research that has been done over the past one or two decades. I've decided to let them believe what they think for now.
I have a vague understanding of how Nicotinamide Riboside works, but I can't seem to find an answer to my dilemma anywhere, so I thought I would ask here, in hopes that someone would know. I'm a 45 year old female and I have been taking Live Cell Research Niagen for 8 months. I have taken several breaks, usually due to finances. At first, it was a wonder supplement, giving me energy and helping my workouts. I've read about people taking 1 gram a day and more, and anytime I've tried to go up to 750mg a day, I crash- passing out napping in the afternoon. it happens every. single. time. So I have stuck with 500mg/day. This last run of my Niagen supplementation lasted 4 months- 500 mg a day. Suddenly in the 4th month, I started getting extremely drowsy in the afternoons, like uncontrollable napping (even though I sleep 8 hours a night). I stopped the Niagen and felt great. I stopped for a week, went back to it today at 250mg and crashed again, sleeping for 2 hours in the afternoon. Why is the niagen doing this to me? Have I built up a tolerance? Historically and currently I am low in D3 ( i take 10,000 iu a day), B12 (i inject weekly for several months out of the year) and Ferritin ( i take supplemental iron as well).
Harvard Medical School Scientists Pinpoint Critical Step in DNA Repair, Cellular Aging
http://www.newswise.com/articles/harvard-medical-school-scientists-pinpoint-critical-step-in-dna-repair-cellular-aging
Please note - I did not say that NR is damaging my liver, or that it "might be" damaging my liver. There is no suspicion of that. My doctor's hypothesis is that NR was raising blood markers (ALT and AST) that in other circumstances would be a warning of possible liver damage, but in this case they are a "false positive".
Josh, Could you update us whether your enzymes returned to normal after stopping NR?
Many thanks,
Erik
I'm pretty sure the liver enzyme had nothing to do with NR.
I am a 60 year old male and have been taking 250 mg of HPN Niagen for 3 months, with some changes in the way I feel – mainly more energy and memory clarity. Don't workout anymore due to serious neck and knee surgeries so I can only walk - the same distance to and from work 5 days a week - and my walk times have decreased per my fitbit. Drink a lot of beer twice a week and hangovers are mostly gone which is different from pre-niagen. Started taking a low dose of a statin a year ago but stopped because of side effects so I am curious to see niagen's impact on my cholesterol levels (and my liver enzyme levels per Josh above), if any. I am not overweight but would like to lose 10-15 pounds to get back to where I was before marriage and my wonderful desk job of 30 years. Also have been taking 100 mgs of ubiquinol a day for 2 years before I started taking niagen and continue to take it with the niagen.
So did you ever get into using NR?
Mark -
I've been taking it for 8 months or so, with no noticeable change in the way I feel - but then, I didn't expect any. Its benefits are supposed to be long-term. Recently, my doctor suggested I stop because she thinks it has elevated my ALT and AST in blood tests, giving a false positive for liver damage, and she wants to check.
- Josh
Hi Josh Mitteldorf,
Please update us when you know. It is my second month but definitely do not want to damage my liver!
Cheers!
Yes, I have used NR for I suppose it has been about 2 years. Mostly it gives me the energy to keep jogging without getting tired and having to stop. Jerry Collins
there is a trial in Colorado boulder university on niagen. they do not publish results. does someone know why?
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Their first study of a single dose of NR was successful. I see no mention of the results of their 6 week study.
I feel it is more about the quality of life while living as much as extending it. I do feel more aware, energetic, with better metabolism and overall a happier person on it.
Hi Longevityseeker, Thanks for the update. My eyesight needs improvement, too. I am thinking of trying Phosphatidylserine. I hear it is good for the brain, also; and helps memory, too.
At 64 I feel , well not really like a stud, but after taking 300 to 400 mgs/day of NAD+Cell Regenerator since April 2014 I think it gives me the extra energy to exercise. In my case the big gain is in resistance training. I gained muscle and look a lot more trim.People comment on how young I look for my age. However , taking NR has not prevented me from getting cataracts.
Jerry, following the latest trends on the main NR discussion website you should consider to take about 500 mgs per day if possible. I would like to do the same but costs are prohibiting.
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/82770-nicotinamide-riboside-curated/page-51#entry794458
This is about month four
-feel great working out more regularly
-nails and hair still growing
- no improvement in eyesite- maybe worse
But it's age related
-sexual drive increased
- able to fight food addictions and weight has dropped from 312 to 268
- food cravings and ability to do a bullet proof coffee in am and salmon dinner at night w some vegetables and walnuts- able to calorie restrict and my feel if I do t take the niagen I get food cravings and feel food addiction feelings- not taking niagen if I run out I tend to binge on those days and gain weight real fast
- less bloating and my feel a fatty liver is Better w less fluid retention
- able to memorize seven digit phone numbers and I never could before
- gradual but steady increase in muscle but it's the motivation and improvement in mood and depression
- feel like dancing sometimes. Just better mood
- better sleep and more dreams- my feel better sleep architecture
- people can't believe I'm 48 even though I have a grey beard- I do think I look younger
- just energy and focus- I have high stress job and focus more
- I do yoga and meditate last two years as well so don't know how to filter out signal from noise but both signals result in better overall health
- being able to control Appetite and thoughts about food is key to my wellbeing and was on my way to a fatty liver and Diabetes
- neuropathy in feel is better
Ditto. I feel my overall wellbeing is so much better and has helped kicked all other possible crutches except a little gin occasionally ;)
Hi Peter, Thanks for the update. Niagen does not improve my weightlifting; but YK-11 (aj SARM) does; so I suspect your improvement in strength may be due to the Cell Regenerator. It is too expensive; but I may try NR for just a month to see what it does; so thanks for the suggestion.
Some human results have finally been published. Looks like one gram a day of NR will double the NAD+ of middle-agers, about the same effect as a the NMN used in Sinclair's mice. Whether that will turn us elderly into studs remains to be tested.
The only thing I have noticed is that on 2 pills of Niagen each day, I can jog as long as I want without getting tired and having to stop to rest. I was hoping it would improve my weightlifting, but I don't think it does; because weightlifting is anaerobic, whereas jogging is aerobic. I am 75 years old.