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Kutraalam is the well known south indian fountain with good qualities of herbs in the mountain,
About Kuttchalaam……kutt+chalam
utrAlam, it is actually ‘kuttAlam’ which means a ‘waterfall’. (kuttu = erect, Alam = water) …
Here, the word chalam refers to water.
In sankskrit the word jalam refers to water so the brahmins have taken the word “chalam” to make “jalam”,
In urdu, “Zam” means the flow of perennial water coming out of various springs.
So, that was the similarities between tamizh, sanskrit and urdu.
bye
Dear all,
Written by sajeesh on net malayalam song it goes (remember this was written way back in 1972)
Manushyan mathangale srishtichoo (humans created relegion)
Mathangal dhaivangale srishtichoo (relegions created Gods)
Manushyanum mathangalumdhaivangalum koodee (humans, God and relegion)
Mannu panku vachu manassu panku vachu (divided land and hearts)
bye
Dear all,
http://pasug.blogspot.com/
Before writing about the similarities between tamizh saivism, christianity and islam i could see some same thoughts written on the above website given.
In tamizh we say,
Eesan…………Sivan
In English they say
Jesus but in tamizh we write Eesaa or yesu…
Kanya kumaari …kanya means unmarried, a chaste woman
Virgin Mary………..again means the same.
Whatever the history of this earth and its evolution, we can see similarities between religions of this world.
TAMIZH……Than+mozhi……i think it is ….thaaanagave vazharntha mozhi…means the language which came into existence on its own without depending on any other language.
see you all
AMMA means mother in TAMIZH
cow will say AMMA .
These will prove that TAMIZH is mother of all language
Thanks a lot Jackel.
A cool breeze.
cow is also a marine animal, when it was coming out from the ocean it was mooing..thats what i guess made the tamizhan to call the water ku,ma. That is why the cow is also called as kumaatha in tamizh. Cow the english word has been formed from “kumatha” or “kauri” (gauri in hindi). “kumaatha” is the ancient word but later on changed but even now used in tamizhnadu.
This is what they say about the owner of sind civilisation.
http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/blogs/delhi_tam_bram/80-we-really-brahmins.html
So the point being raised is if we are doing enough to attain brammam to call ourselves a brahmin.
For instance i used to think i was little incomplete as a brahmin because i was never in TamilNadu and felt i was practising the faith lesser than the local folks here. But now when i am in Chennai, i feel I am so much better off than at least the Chennai Brahmins who are so devoid of even human traits. I am currently so disgusted with the brahmins in Chennai that i am introspecting myself as a brahmin and how i should safeguard the sect.
In fact i ask for su-budhi to all Chennai Brahmins in light of the blighted people they are. In fact they are like slaves to the Vaihyas and Shudras ruling the city.
YES. TODAY THE 18th Monday, 2010 is the day of “REVELATION”.
From the beginning itself, the aryans (the nomadics) had the habit of humiliating the thravidians and their flawless custom and rich culture. The south indians tamizhians,telungus, kannadigas and malayalis who opposed them had to come to the south end of india from the “sind region”. Those who wanted to remain there later on had to loose their originality and they had to heed to their command. The aryans changed their entire culture from language, dress code and even their BLOOD.
Even after having the whole of northern, eastern, western india by criminal tresspass…they could not be satisfied and they again wanted to capture the whole south india and so these blood suckers followed us like a DRACULA and still they are dominating to mint money. We most of south indians had been forcibly evicted from our mother region SIND.
The reason of poverty of india is brahmins because they are cheating in the name of God and religion. So many corruptions are happening because of aryans and their corrupted forcibly pushed customs. These customs are creating criminals day by day. And criminals are not born they are made.
Be hopeful always!
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Dear all,
I see lot of similarities between the tamizh and the urdu name..
In tamil ‘MARIAMMAN’…..mari is rain(water) and amman (mother)
in islam “MARIAM”………it shows the word might have gone into ISLAM.
In Tamil we say “MAARI AATHA” the goddess (parvati….par means world and ati means rule….the one who rules the world…the root meaning the power of water)
In sanskrit the word “MATA’ means mother it might have gone to make the English word or may be it was taken directly from the tamizh word to create “MOTHER” (MAARI AATHA) in english.
Maari aatha…..aa-tha …. “aaa” means unavu (food) thaa means give……….unavu kodu….give food….(“aaa” also use to make some one to open his mouth….we tell the kids to open their mouth while feeding…..aaa kaami………am i write?
So, the ancient tamizh people had been worshipping water and the sun simultaneously to give them food.
THE IMPORTANCE OF ‘MAARI'” is explained.
May be the word “SUN” in english was taken from the tamizh word “SURIYAN” …….
It seems to me the meaning of each tamizh word has a deepest meaning inside!!!!!!!!!
Dear all,
The description of ‘mummāri’ – three rains in a month – is given in Tamizh treatise ‘vivēka cintāmaṇi’, verse 26 as under –
26. vēdamōdiya vēdiyar kōrmazhai
nīdimannar neṛiyinuk kōrmazhai
mādar kaṛpuḍai mangaiyark kōrmazhai
mādamūnṛu mazhaiyenap peyyumē
Here below the word “MUMMARI” means 3 rains in a month….it shows that the word “mari” was again refers “water”….So, water has been so far given importance in the tamizh literature and the river especially the water is the main energy and it was compared to the female gender ie…a woman …thats why there is a god by the name “MAARI AATA” the incarnation of Goddess Parvati….names may be different the “Saka thee” or Shakti….in tamil the emobodiment of fire. Thee in tamil is fire….
now, i have seen the names “MARY” in English literature as well as “MARIYAM” a word in Islam also…details given below taken on net.
“In the Qur’an, no other woman is given more attention than Mary. The nineteenth sura of the Qur’an is named after her and is, to some extent, about her life. Of the Qur’an’s 114 suras, she is among only eight people who have a sura named after them. In Islam, she is generally referred to as Maryam, Umm Isa (Mary, the mother of Jesus) or Syeda Maryam (Lady Mary).[citation needed]
Mary is one of the most highly-regarded women in Islam; there are several verses in the Qur’an praising her and confirming that she was an extremely chaste and pious woman”.
Umm Isa (Mary, the mother of Jesus)…here in islam “UMM Isa” is written in the hinduism the another name of parvathi wife of sivan is written as “UMA MaheshwARI”…….So, these are the similarities i have found in TAMIZH, CHRISIANITY AND ISLAM about the word “MARI” or “MARY” or “MARIYAM”.
Do you people get any clue?
Think deeply.
bye all.
“mariam” is no one but “maariamman”. The water or rain goddess.
Dear all,
I never thought my curiosity about the letter “ku” would be a matter of discussion on the net……..hehehe…….see below the website.
http://sites.google.com/site/sumeriantamil/kumari-sagkam-in-sumerian-texts
bye
Miraculous Recovery of the lost “tevAram” hymns
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The great temple-builder King Raja-Raja I (985-1014 A.D.) had also a desire to unearth the tevAram hymns believed to be lost or hidden somewhere except the few that professional singers in some temples remembered. Once he heard about nambi-ANDAr-nambi, a little boy of a village near Chidambaram, whose devotion was considered so great, it was said that the vinAyaka idol of the place yielded to his request to eat a dish of rice offered by him. The King had this boy located and asked him about the whereabouts of the lost hymns of the Saiva samayAcAryas. Back came the reply that the hymns lay in a locked room in the western prAkAra (corridor for perambulation) of the Chidambaram temple under the seals of the hymnists themselves. The King used his authority as well as some imagination to recover the hymns at the place indicated but the whole thing was a heap of palmyra leaves (OLAI CHUVADI- tamizh verses written on palm leaves…an ancient form of writing on palm leaves, Even agasthiyar NAADI KANIPPU – Foretelling of facts were written in palm leaves ) under a mound of ants. At that time there was heard an aereal voice declaring that whatever was recoverable should be enough for this era.
What was recovered was probably
384 out of a supposed 10,000 hymns of Sambandar,
312 out of 49000 of Appar,
100 out of 37000 hymns of Sundarar.
This is how the now well-known tevAram hymns were discovered. Raja Raja I had thus made the greatest contribution to the growth of Tamil literature. From that time onwards the hymns are being sung in all Siva temples of Tamil origin by professionals trained for this purpose under benefactions made by successive generations of kings and philanthropists.
Siddha medical practice it is of dravidian origin is also traced to mythological sources belonging to the Shaiva tradition. According to the tradition, Lord Shiva conveyed the knowledge of medicine to his wife Parvati. The knowledge was passed from her to Nandi and finally it was given to the Siddhas.
The word Siddha denotes one who has achieved some extraordinary powers (siddhi). This achievement was related to the discipline of mind and its superiority over body, and was accomplished through both yoga and medicine. Thus siddhars (practitioners of Siddha) became the symbols of psychosomatic perfection and so the Siddha medicine became a combination of medicine and yoga.
Siva is also worshipped in the form of known as linga. In Tamil language lingam also means cinnabar (mercuric sulphide) also, and that cinnabar forms one of the constituents of a composition (astabandha) used during the installation of divine idols. Traditionally cinnabar is the source of divine energy and possesses the creative principles.
One of the Siddhars of Tamilnadu, Ramadevar, says in his work on alchemy (Cunnakandam) that he went to Mecca, assumed the name of Yakub and taught the Arabs the alchemical arts. It is significant that some of the purification processes and substances of alchemical significance are common to both Islamic and Indian alchemy.
A true meaning of a great culture got corrupted by the ever cunning and selfish nomadics named Aryans they only say that they are all (once upon a time came in) “CARAVAN”. (group of people who used to travell together in the old days using animals like horses or camels. I dont know which animals they were using while invading into india.
Very very interesting to go to the PAST and know about ARYANS…..the mystry is still now their exact LOCATION. No one is able to tell about their exact home…………..very very mysterious.
me going …….have a great day all of you….
Dear all,
About “REVELATION”
All we Indians especially Hindus know that the worship of LINGAM is prevalent through out india and most of all the hindus know the meaning of it.
BUT………….the fact is actually the Lingam is nothing but the “MORTAR and the PESTLE”.
Mortar …..a hard bowl made of stone or clay in which something can be ground (crushed into powder).
Pestle ….is a heavy piece of stone that is used to crush (break up) a solid substance into powder.
Dear all, ……..Sivan was a “Siddhar” and he was the first one to find out the “Siddha Medical Practice”…He was while wandering in the green forest collecting various medicinal herbs and he was researching them. He was using the mortar and pestle to crush the herbal leafs and the roots and other medicinal things.
But, the aryans made these medical equipments as the male and the female organs of the human body and made the mockery of the whole facts……Even now archeologists dig out so many lingams this infact shows that the ancient people were worshipping these two medical instruments made of different chemicals. So, to humiliate the whole “Saivism” the aryans thought of giving wrong meaning to the very HOLIEST AND DIVINE culture which was away from selfish and crooked minded people. The aryans never wanted the dravidians to be disciplined and cultured. They have mixed poison in our very rich culture.
The Mortar and the Pestle and the river SIND have great connection with other. The siddhars are of 18 they were all famous…..but there were so many siddhars practising siddha medical system in the past as well as today. But very few Indians (most of south indians only) only know about the glory of ‘SIDDHA MEDICINE’. The north indians do not know that the founder of Siddha medical system was “Sivan” … The call him “Shiva” because of Aryans Sanskrit …..thats all!!!!!
In South India, especially in Tamizh Nadu only this medical system is somewhat famous and no one is caring about thinking about its glorious past…………nothing to say……….
RELIGION SHOULD TALE ABOUT THE DISCIPLINE NOT ABOUT FOUL AND NASTY THINGS.
I should admit and accept the truth that i did not know the real form of sivan, he was FIRE.
Dear Abdul Sir and all,
I am sorry sir. I wrote your name wrongly. May be i was thinking about the Great Moghul Emperor “Akbar”. History also says that he married hindu women also……so, our whole northern India now is full of all people with dravidian, aryan and muslim blood. They are all part of this India only……..We should not fight with each other. So far, Tamizh nadu has been the state of Secularism and we embraced all cultures and all religions with open arms.
Vandavarai vaazha vaikkum tamizhagam…means those who entered tamizh nadu would be welcomed and it would make them live…..but why do we opposs aryans is another matter to be discussed.
But, I think the religion Islam has been so far calm in Tamizh Nadu and most of the hindu women goes to the mosque after 5.30pm to get the blessings of the muslim devotees after their namaaz to cure their children affected by illness or any other health problems. It is believed soon after their namaaz the elderly muslim men have the blessings of the super natural invisible power that surely treat the illness of various kind. I dont know whether in other parts of india people are following this custom in mosque. But i myself has gone to the mosque to get the blessings. I believer of Dead Spirits as well as Reincarnation. But i am not so obsessed about these matters. I had personal experience also.
Re-birth the concept itself is a great thing to be taken for discussion. 8 years before a the spirit of a canadian poet made me write some few words later on i came to know that it was the title of the poem written by a canadian poet…she was a tormented soul before her death and in the same book i could also find out a whole chapter written about recarnation. What do i write? You people would make me one day go to the past..
Take care Abdul Sir.
Dear all,
I would come up tomorrow with a “revelation”.
I want the whole SINDUISM or SAIVISM to be the purest one away from all evil hearted people.
Some words of tamil day today use are found in sanskrit. When these words are seen, tamil pandits get inferiority complex and instead of finding out that root they term this as sanskrit derived words.
Thulaparam-thulai+param= weigh balance+weight
Darshan- theriyanam-therisanam -darshan
kaariyam- karumam-karmam-kariyam-kaariyam
pasu- pas in sanskrit means rope. All think cow is controlled through pas so pasu. But pas is from pai-pasai-pasu a tamil root.Pai is the root for pachai and pal(milk)
Shakshi- satchi(santru)- satshat is very often used in stories written by sanskrit influenced writers
Visumbu- visuvam
palam- valam
dayai- thalarvu-thayavu
prachanai-problem- prazhchanai
Sigichai- Sikizhchai- Tamils pandits use ‘panduvam’ for sigichai thinking that sigichai is sanskrit word.
vishayam- vidayam
osti- uyarthi-osaththi-osti
Juram(fever)- suram=sur+am-suru+am. ‘surunguthal due to heat’
suraththal,suranduthal,suriyan are from this root.
Pashana- pasanam- paichanam- pai is the root.
nirupanam- niruvuthal, niru/uru is the root.
patcham-pakkam
elakkam,elakkiam- elatcham,elatchiam
giri-kiri-kuri means malai. kurichi,kuravar has same root.
Suththam- suthai+am – Suthai a name for ‘sunnambu'(white/clean).
Asuththam might have evolved in sanskrit since equivalent opposite word forming might be difficult since sanskrit is artificial language.
For example, abaram-baram-param-varam(since ‘v’ is not in sanskrit) -varai+am, varai(border),Compare varayarai & var(belt).
Therefore abaram(-ve) means borderless-excellent in meaning.
Not only words.Sanskrit Grammar also is from tamil. We can conclude sanskrit is the northern replica of tamil. Sanskrit vedic religion is tamil adapted religion.
Inthran is eulogized in vedhas.
Inthran/varunan= inththu=im+th+u- Im and U are suttu words specified the water/cold water of river. varunan=vari(alai) again a name for water flowing/sea.
The same inththran was god of masses when tamils turned agriculturists. The same inththran was turned sivan later.
The god of water based/agriculturists was inththran. That is why
some of the castes of tamilnadu called themselves inthrakula katthiriyar(Shatriyar) and inththrakula vellalar.
Karikalan celebrated ‘inththra vizha’ in kallanai. Silapathikaram talks about inthra vizha.
Sanskrit adapted this caste system/ideology.
Sindhu the river name means the same cold water flowing.
Kangai,the river name is formed with the root ‘kankai’ which means light heat.
If the above concept is followed a significant breakthrough in tamil-sanskrit combination will be invented and the myth that sanskrit is all in india would be broken into pieces.
Dear all,
Singer : T.M.Soundhararaajan
Lyrics : Subramaniya Bharathi
Sindhu nadhiyin misai nilavinilae
chaera nannaattilam pengaludanae
sundharath thelunginil paattisaiththu
thoanigal oatti vilaiyaadi varuvoam
(manasithi neekoasam madhukada neekoasam
mamathaa vaedhaa maayani mathukaasam)
gangai nadhippuraththu goadhumaip pandam
kaaviri vetrilaikku maarukolluvoam
singa maraattiyartham kavidhaikondu
saeraththu thandhangal parisalippoam
(sindhu nadhi)
singalath theevinukkoar paalamamaippoam
saedhuvai maeduduththi veedhi samaippoam
vangaththil oadi varum neerin migaiyaal
vaiyaththu naadugalil payir seyyuvoam
(sindhu nadhi)
This song of Poet subramaniya Bharathiyar tells that our civilisation started from SINDU…but the poet did not mention that TAMIL was their language…..was there partiality? Whoever use the tamizh language do not accept its origin and show their loyalty to the land…..was it because of the fact that we did not allow their created SANSKRIT to flourish in our thiravidian land.
See you all
Hai Miss M,
I am Abdul Not Akbar.
hi miss m
Bharathiar is also a Brahmin.. can you say he is bad? Like wise in all castes good as well as bad persons are there… Understand that..
i know all fingers are not the same.
I had been singing the songs of bharathiyar in my school days.
I wrote about corruptive tamizhians also. But why the importance about aryanisation was written ……the reason is the “SCAR”. It cant be erased from minds of people. It is still fresh.
They had already killed the emotions of so many people and they are trying to get up slowly.
A shoe monger today is sending his son or daugher to school to get education because no school…..especially a non-brahmin school does not ask about his CASTE…..but only the religion.
I am happy to see the happiness among poor people.
u kno what? They still now use the words “vaishyas and Shudraas……Elders teach youngsters to follow their rules and customs.
We can tolerate the torture but “TAMIZH” can not tolerate.
bye……..
You are always seeing the one side of the coin.. i accept all your points.. Even I dont like to use the word shudras.. It will be eradicated soon.. i know.. i have the hope too… But remember one thing, being polite and giving respect can change anything in the world.. I am a follower of gandhi.. Just be polite in ur words… as its a public medium..
Dear Mantra,
Your word MANTRA is nothing but MANAM+THIRAN….manam means the mind and thiran means the capacity.
It is used to call the people who are magicians also.
Maaya manthiram……then only it is mantra in sanskrit.
I think abdul sir would explain the word mantra better than me because he is a scholar of so many languages.
We were polite always. But when hey started to abuse a Tamizhian on net just because of the topic “which one is old tamizh or sanskrit”, then we had to leave all sorts of peaceful methods.
No one is SUPERIOR. No one is INFERIOR. All are of human race. Only we humans only made all sorts of divisions.
If you go and call a person “Shudra” …can you imagine how much of pain and humiliation he experience. Its like breaking his hearts into pieces.
I can give you examples of so many people who are called shudra and they dont want to shed tears because they dont have tears in their eyes.
Now, i think i made you understand why was i writing about brahmins. We are not against brahmins but their views about brahmanism.
We are not against sanskrit entry into tamizh land but before that you should make sure that people wont be exploited and tamizh wont be humiliated because TAMIZH CAN NOT SPEAK TO PROVE THE FACT THAT IT IS ONE OF ANCIENT LANGUAGE FULL OF ANTIQUITY.
u were humiliating tamizh, how do u expect me to be polite? u snatched the whole place, our kankai, our arithuvaaram, our imaalayam, ur unique way of mixing the poison into the bowl of milk. We did not know how to fight with you. U made us the worst affected. Because we had been asking you questions. You were sending them all to the graveyard. Are u God-fearing? Yes. you will be the god-fearing because you are doing sin again and again.
first of all, you should understand that all the fingers are not the same.
Dear Akbar Sir and all,
After reading some of the facts regarding INDUS VALLEY CIVILISATION and how our dravidian people were made to run away from their own home land to different parts of SINDUSTHAN and how their originality was spoiled and how much pain they had been carrying in their heart and how much struggle to eat and sleep in their own land, i am really sad because i did not know the real facts so far. Only for past few days only i had been able to study some of the origin of indus valley and the dravidian culture.
Thiraikadal odium thiravium (treasure) thedu
this above given sentence means “cross the seas and grab the fortunes”
I think our thiravidian land was full of treasure thats why it was named after the tamizh word “Dravidian”. But since the arrival of Aryans we had to run from pillar to post and even to migrate to foreign countries for SURVIVAL.
Thiravium means treasure in tamil then i think the word ‘DRAVIDIAN’ should be “‘THIRAVIDIAN”. (a person who belongs to the land full of treasure) Am i correct?
So far the internet has been helpful to me for digging out the past and be knowledgeble. But some crooked minded people are using this facility to defame the tamizhians. We the south indians are fighting here not knowing our glorious past. I think so far we have been facing so many suppression in the name of colour, language and our nature of worship in the past.
I know those who oppossed sivan started VAISHNAVISM against SAIVISM, and the followers vaishnavism are Iyengars in tamizhland.
The iyers who follow the saivism along with dravidians were not ready to mingle with dravidians but they wanted to rule the entire SINDUSTHAN. This is the fact. My natural instinct only helps me so many times to gather informations.
Even now we are not against anybody. All should be GOD FEARING. Because i know a super natural power invisible is watching us all.
see you all later on.
Taken from for the readers.
http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/current-affairs/2309-politics.html
Making a Mockery against Brahmins became a fashion by DK based parties like DMK Since the past 60 years.
In the Film,” Sabhapathy” of those days a dialogue will come, “Brahminargal Sappidum Idam”. Instead of writing like this, a wrong meaning as,” Brahminar Kaal Sappidum Idaam”. Here it means, “Toddy”.
Our community ancestors including respectful Rajaji never condemned these sort of Nasty dialogues in Cinema.
Slowly that sort of culture developed….
As soon as DMK comes to power in 1967,”Poonal Cutting Incidents ” became a regular occurance by DK.
DK used to propagate on stages against Sanskrit,saying that it is a un-understandable language,at the same time those DK and DMK will never speak about Arabic system of worships on Mosques.Those ****** are Non Belivers of God.
In olden days,Christians used to come daringly in all agraharams and propagate Christianity in Brahmin Prodominent Streets with Mike and Loud Speaker.As they have the indirect support of Rowdies and DK,and DMK people ,and all our ancestors are soft cornered they kept silence in the issue just as ,”Dogs may bark while caravan Passes on”.
After the influence of ,”Bharatia Janasangh” pro BJP during 1980s this Rowdism was stopped to some extent.
This was because ,Jana Sangh (old BJP) started to critisise Christians and Muslims simultaniously. I am sure all our people who crossed 60s by now will definitely admit this.
Last edited by KRS; 24-07-2009 at 07:13 AM. Reason: Offensive language
Yes it is true that Telugu is derived from Tamil.There are many words in common between Tamil and Telugu.But the fact is that the root of those words can only be found in Tamil but not in Telugu,hence the reason.For example butter is known as Vennai in tamil and Venna in telugu.While venna can’t be split further, vennai can certainly be split as ven(white)+nei(ghee).Since that ghee is more greyish than butter,primitive Tamils called butter as a white ghee(vennai).Similar is the case with the common word Vennila(moon).Vennila=Ven(white)+Nila(moon).Moon appears white when seen from the earth and that made Tamils add an adjective ven to it.Many more such examples can be given thus.
But anyway my Telugu is more sweeter than Tamil.
Dear telungu guy
Whatever language if tamil can be mixed then it can become sweeter and the sweetest.
Thanks for apreciating our dravidian language we are all dravidians and separated by regions made later on. We should all be united. No NORTH INDIAN, no SOUTH INDIAN no EAST INDIAN no WEST INDIAN….no WESTERNERS no EUROPEANS. We are all……since aryans use their sanskrit to cheat the whole universe we are protesting and we protest against sanskrit becos it is used to cheat people most of the time without guilty conscience.
I have to go with my telungu friend for shopping. Her name is padma.
bye…take care ….
Hello miss m..
If u don’t have sufficient knowledge about a thing, U r not the right person to criticize or praise that… First learn that… how can u say sanskrit as a cheating language? do u know fully about sanskrit.. ? You know how its originated? Try to substantiate watever u say! U simply trying to create problems between Indians.. Try to be an Indian..
Sanskrit has lost its “sanskriti”
First of all know the truth about Tamizh or please and dig out the ocean and find out the truth.
You can not go to the deepest of ocean.
bye
wat u know about sanskrit?
Reply for this..
Sanskrit is nothing but the northern replica of TAMIL.
I learnt this from abdul sir.
If you ask me what Russian or Arbaic is then i wont be able to give the answer…when i would observe and research those languages then only i can give the answer.
I have only so far researched the word “KANYA KUMARI” and QUWARI KANYA.
In tamil we say komatha (maadu) for cow in sanskrit they say Gowri in hindi they “gaay” but the origin is “Kanya Kumari”
The cow “MAADU” means the animal while saying “maa” shake his neck….so maa+aadu…..cow+shake……..I have to now explore the word “MILK SHAKE”.
i have work….bye.
First of all i want to be a HUMAN..not an INDIAN. I have seen all kinds of cultures and do not forget anything.
indian..ic, i dont think i am an indian, by the way, what the indian govt. is doing for tamizhnadu? Dont make me the irritated one. Understood. I want to be a human. Indians would feel proud when P.T.Usha wins the gold in the olympics or Dhanraj pillay(tamizhan) wins the game hockey, then they will call themselves, we the indians..they dont treat a tamizhan a tamizhan. Only during games, they are emotional and united.
I really appreciate the true words of Telungu guy.He is the best example for a Dravidian.We are all dravidians,we are all one.Just by geography ,we differ.I would appreciate ,if other dravidian may also ,come together to throw light about the Sanskrit’s injustice to Tamizh.Sanskrit has stolen all the words of Tamizh and manipulated the same with different tone.As like, Tharuthal(T) has become Dhaan(S), and Aan MAA (T) has been manipulated as Atma(S),like this we can quote n number of words of Dravidian origin borrowed and maniulated by Sanskritist.
hey friend…
Just think one thing.. In tamil We are saying Electron as Electron.. Like.. many scientific terms are taken from English and still we are using them as like… It doesnt mean Tamil doesn’t have the capability to create new tamil words for that… Like wise there will be some similarity between tamil and sanskrit… Thats it.. Pls Use dis arena to develop ur Positive and healthy attituides.. This is not the place to speak ill about other languages or other castes… Create a healthy India thats free from all these diversities…
First of all bring a positive balm for our SCAR.
And show us a bright future full of promise away from Re-aryanisation.
Give some years of hope and growth.
First of all remove the inferiority complex from the minds of the backward class people.
So many tamizhians died for the independance of india. Dont forget that.
Islam does not snatch away the hard earned money of hindus.
Christianity does not grab the money from the pockets of hindus. I talk about today.
you get that?
First of all, I think there should not be any topic like Which language is the oldest?
Tamizh or Sanskrit……….
If a tamizhian is copying the style of Rajnikant or any other hollywood actor then he wont mind telling that he is copying that actor.
If i copy the style of P.Susheela or any other hindi singer then i wont mind telling the facts.
Accepting is the virtue that would show our “broad mind”.
When no one especially those created sanskrit do not accept it then leave the topic even.
They are narrow minded and if it wont create any friendly atmosphere surround then it is OK …..be silent.
Life is also about struggle. Tamizh may die but Truth shall never die.
i hope you would change your people. But what about brain, it is keep on changing. whats the PROBLEM? after all?
hi abdul,
Dont mistake me for the thing that i am going to say!
In India most of the terrorists have islam names.. for that can i say all the muslims are terrorists? I cant, right?Now u can understand i hope…. In all the religion,In all the countries ,In all the castes bad persons are there…. If i am betrayed by a christian guy i cant say , all the christians are bad… and cheating people.. So being good or bad depends on the situation u live and it doesnot depend on the language u speak or the caste u belong to… Hope u got my point… Forgive me if any of my words hurt you!
I thought of you as a sanskrit professor and i was thinking so seriously also. misunderstanding is the one which makes people behave differently i guess. Before coming to this blog i had in my mind that there was a person called SIVAN in the past…. :) i did not know it was one of five elements almost representing all the 5 elements and banyan tree was also SIVAN… how childish i was to write that he wore the skin of tiger and he was a hunter…hhihihi
ABDUL 16. Oct, 2010 at 3:49 am # Tamil words :It is said that there are more than 400 Dravidian and Munda loan words in Vedic Language is there any direct Tamil or Kannada word in later Sanskrit Language,Some of the few are as ollows,
1. uN ->वृ ण् vRuN, to eat
2. muLugu ->बु ल् bul, to sink
3. kothi ->थ ः kvath, to boil
4. tēkku ->ध े dhē, to drink
5. changam ->चङग changa, handsom, beautiful
6. pulam ->फु लरीकः phullarīkah, Place
7. ericcal ->इरय irasya, anger
8. irai ->इर ा irā, Food
9. iraivan ->इर ावान् irāvān, king
10.irai ->इय
11. Eru ->ईर् īr, to rise
13. uku ->उ् uksh, to scatter
14. alagu (beauty)->व ग ु valgu, beautiful
15. utavi ->ऊितः ūtih, help
16. kanai ->किनद kanikrada, to neigh
17.pila ->िबल ् bil, to split
18.putai -> bud, to hide
19. petan ->प ोटा pōtā, hermaphrodite
20. pīlal ->लक ः plakah, Pudendum muliebre
21. vīsu ->िबस ् bis, to throw
22.వెళుల్vellu ->वल ् Vall, to go
23.paravu -> ू brū, to say
24. vaḻaṅku -> valk, to speak
25 vel (veluppu,ெவளத Veluththu) ->वभ् valbh, to eat
26. kuRu-vēr ->िहरवेर
Dear Abdul Sir,
Thanks for your genuine efforts and your hard work for establishing the facts about the past.
I think the word “Quari” itself i mean the original tamizh word “Kumari” made so many people to create new words. “Ri” was used to mention that the river was compared to the female gender……is this becos the word in english “RIver” Especially now, this “Ku” ….
kuaon in hindi means well,
kuwalai in tamil means a vessel to drink water
kudam a vessel to fill up water
kuliayal…to take bath
kulam…..pond
kutraalam….the fountain near tenkasi full of herbal value
kuarangu……monkey
kudirai………horse
kural…….voice
kudhithal…to jump
tc….no time
INSPIRATION near water (ocean, river, lake….water)
parappana, oorvana, nadapana….ellame thanneeril aarambam.
those are flying, crawling and walking both (“humans”) and “animals” came from water.
Did i write the above given details about “KU”? seriously i am asking? What made me write?
Triveni, the union of three rivers in Allahabad(UP), here also the “ven” (white) the tamizh is here, it seems the northeners, most of them who invaded had forcibly evicted our mother tongue tamizh and they are proudy about their skin and thats the reason we are facing problems today. Most of northners they only pray and chant but truly they dont have good conscience and they dont work hard and most of them i found indisciplined as far as moral character is concerned. They want “easy money”. South indians should not follow this they should follow their disciplined culture and tradition.
Thousands of innocent hearts are suffering in the brothels of mumbai for no fault on their part only becos of cunning, money-minded and fearless humans of india in general. They goes to temples and worship and have sumptuous feast at home. Hell with them all!!!!!!!
Sindh, as a western frontier of the South Asia, has always been exposed to the entry of migrants from Central Asia and the Middle East. The invasion of the Aryans around 1500 BC altered the demographic composition of Sindh forever. The Dravidians were the original inhabitants of Sindh and founded the prosperous Indus Valley Civilizations, which included the cites of Mohenjo-daro and Harappa. However, the arrival of the Aryans pushed Dravidian populations southward into the Deccan plateau.
The people known as Sindhis today, like most of the inhabitants of South Asia, are mainly the product of Aryan-Dravidian intermarriages.
miss m :
thanks for the nice informations..
i guess ur states are so true..
please continue telling about these infos..
Dear Vijay,
Thanks for encourging us. We do not actually exposing the facts that who we are….. because there is always a fear among people that the brahmins would begin to use cunningness to ruin our life…..they have been so far using their cunning ‘TACTICS’ to remove whoever asked them “questions” in fact they had been destroying all the people who opposed them,
They are very very poisonous……
I think even after creating a land of treasure (courtesy NATURE) and making it a globally known civilisation in SIND (was the word before “SIRANDA” in tamil it means the “fantastic or very good… i guess later on the word SIND came into existance) ….the thiravidians were made to move towards the south by the aryans and thereafter they had established a very large empire full of precious secrets full of mysteries and wonders beneath the ocean now most of them…..i wonder now about their WILL POWER, HARD WORK and DEDICATION….It shows their high spirit and their policy ‘NEVER EVER GIVE UP”…….I want to write a lot but i can not now as i have to do my duties at home. I
c you all.
Stop speaking about other castes… You are using this arena to increase the aversion against Brahmins.. No one has the rights to speak about other caste or religion.. Its illegal to speak ill about another caste.. Its illegal to use Internet to speak bad about Other caste and religion..If u love ur caste, thats good… But there is no need to slander about other castes.. We are Indians thats it. Don’t create diversity by your words.. We are the pillars of future India… We Should be strong enough to face the challenges… So Never Ever try to create Diversity… All are good unless or untill you huet them.. Thats the fact of life…
Its unless or until u hurt them…
We have been meditating and tolerating.
There is no need for “meditation” when the atmosphere surround is pure.
I talk on behalf of those women who lost their life in the name of caste and dowri and i write on the behalf of those devadaasis who died in the corner of their dark rooms.
First of all stop” HUMILIATING TAMIZH THE CHASTE MOTHER”. You are sitting under her and enoying the shadow, i mean she is the banyan tree.
do you know really the exact meaning of “HURTING”? You are fortunate enough to live in a place called tamizhnadu which was the reason for the birth of sanskrit? Accept the fact that you are the MOST FORTUNATE one.
First of all tell me the meaning of “HURTING”.. We are all hurt because “TAMIZH” is hurt and innocent tamizhians are also HURT.
sankararaman, a brahman opposed and they had sent him to the graveyard.
Meditation, renunciation, morals based on karma and equality were followed in the INDUS VALLEY CIVILISATION.