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Dear All,
Its good to have the knowledge in tamil & i am learing from this. Let me know that after we migrated to south part of india do we created a kingdom ? then why we have not attacked the aryans.. what is the real facts behind that. As the aryans mentioned we are not strong enough to face them. Before the cheras, chola, pandia, pallava, who ruled us? Even these kings does they have any war against the nother part of our country.
“Now the present situation questions”
1).We are thinking that we all are Indians do the others think the same on us.
2). All the other state pepople keeping one nick name & calling us.
3). The nature has been stopped its rain & even our near by state the dravidans they are not giving water to us.
4) Even the temples which we made, we are not allowed.
5) An racism problem in australia on Indians our all media went & our indian govt involved to solve but in the Gulf countries more deaths happens no steps were taken, because all came here to do job are south Indian.
Who will solve this & how to solve this. Now what should i think i am Indian or ???????????????????
Dear Shiva,
*Your words are indeed true.So, we should reinforce our tamizh community to face unavoidable challenges encountered thrugh Indian Government.
*It is very sad that our dravidian brothern (kannadigas,telugus and malayalis) never support and dreaming about fake world.They even dont have mouth to accept that their language is the offshoot of tamizh.On contrary they comment that ” our language is born out of sanskrit”,very disgusting to hear.Whether these hindians(northerners) acknowledge them..no way happens!.our brothern are unknowing expressing these false propaganda because (of the history designed by the Indian Govt) of poor knowledge of history.
*India is an imaginary word not a country.As per the world history all the countries small or big divided on the basis of language (primarily) ,ethinicity and religion.etc.Ancient Tamizh literature even has never spoken about united India.It always comments that Vadakinar and so on.Tamizh land has its own demarcation(boundary) mentioned earlier scripts ( attested by like Tholkappiyam).
*Hindians(Northerns) are very clever since antiquity.Hindians are pure business people want to wander india without any pain to realise easy money.They are the people with moto”No pains, more gains”.So ,they used the sovereignity to impose hindi all over India which will make a easy pathway for business communication.They are also further comment “Hindi is spoken by majority of indians”.It is an incrediable statement.If Govt introduces Tamizh as Compulsory subject all states ,then tamizh will also be spoken by appreciable majority.4 south indian states(except few places like Hyderabad ,bangalore and some of kerala ) & 7 north east states ,donot have any knowldge of Hindi even now!So,above statement is false.Hindi is not the native language of (H)India.Indgeneous (Pure Native language) of India is Tamizh .Even some north indians comment that “y u tamizh people not tolerant to learn Hindi ? y r not respecting the sovereignity of the nation? donot u have patriotism?
Just answer them by questioning that,assume british has joined india and china together during independence as a sinle country and introduced Manderin or Cantenese (chinese languages) as National language ,will u hindians accept just as mark of respect to patriotism,soverieignity and tolerance? never happens,because they are people of poor tolerance,These peope even stay at tamizh land ,never speak tamizh even after their settlement crossses a decade or more?so these hindians are people of por tolerance.Also, donot encourage hindians by speaking hindi especially inside our tamizh land.let them struggle and learn our language.For hindians ,we are always raavanas,asuras,or outsiders.Just they foolu and make money out of u ,they call the name of national unity but it is true wrd out of their selfishness.Even now ,tamizhian s donot be fools and fall prey to their complications.Even history has shown the real face of them during Srilankan war.Would they (hindian govt)show similar attitude ,if hindian settlement are enslaved and subjugated in Srilanka? attitude differs with respect to people,So innocent tamizh ,dont be ignorant.I believe tamizh nadu will prosper at the times leaves from the clutches of (H)indian.Hindia is only for Hindians,not for us.Tamizh nadu will grow withTechnology ,innovation and science at global level,only if tamizhnadu becomes seperate nation.
Vazha Tamizh…………….!
Vazha Tamizh Kudimakkal..!
Dear Abdul sir and all,
What you have written about the “Fate” of tamizhians are really true. Eventhough we have come to know reading the history of the nation that tamizh is the mother language of indians, we are wasting our time and energy to establish this fact.
Unnecessarily, we are arguing even now that which one is the oldest, tamizh or sanskrit. Very sad indeed!!!!!!
How cunning they are to have gathered all the knowledge from the tamizh language and created sanskrit and still now they are adamant about occupying the land so pure, and spreading rumours about gods to fool the people so innocent and they are calling us by names which they have created ONCE UPON A TIME during veda period.
Even after knowing that they are still with superiorty complex, the idiot indians are visiting temples to pour on them money. They have mixed poison in our milk like culture.
Welll said geeta (miss m)
Tamizh is the mother of all languages!
Sanskri is the corrupt form of tamizh .So called, sanskrit scholars have predated all (pali & prakrit literatures) sanskrit literatures to BC which may have belong to 7th or 8 th century AD.They are humiliating the innocent dravidians and others in the name of spiritualism and burying the prosperity of Tamizh…!
yes innocent dravidians are also targetted most of the time. it is true!!!!!
YES, vaazhga tamizh kudimakkal!!!! but what about “kudimakkal” i mean the drunkards who drink whiskey and other narcotic alcohol based drinks, families are suffering. Close all the liquor shops at once. They spend their salary buying these things and can be seen on the platform these days.
DONT BE HARSH. There would be more and more broken hearts if all the liquor shops are closed. So be lenient :) guys on platform infact find solace there not at home…you get that.
tamizhnadu a separate nation, our mother KUMA should take the decision. Tsunaami alert!!!!! :)
The original words in tamizh like
In tamizh———————-In Sanskrit
Suryan————————Surya
Chandran———————chandra or chanda in hindi
Indiran————————-Indra
Manthiran———————Mantra
Enthiran———————–yantra
Thanthiran———————Tantra
Sivan—————————Shiva
Only sivan was worshipped or we can say appreciated or admired in dravidian culture but soon after the arrival of aryans everything changed….so many Gods were introduced…..the glory and richness of a culture with purity was changed completely to satisfy aryans. They created all the problems.
Hinduism has been flourished for selfish purposes to mint money. a talented person was there once upon a time and he was given different names by the dravidians and later on he was made a “God” by the aryans. The exact meaning of everything is changed.
The truth is “Somewhere an invisible power exist”
We can not clearly say how does it look…..We are merely “PUPPETS”.
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YOUR ALL DEGENERATES MANUFACTURED BY THE BRITISH AND EUROPEAN UNTOUCHABLES.
FOLLOWERS OF THE ARAB CULT OF ISLAM. GO BACK TO THE ARABIAN DESERT WHERE YOU BELONG.
central asian (Ariyan or Brahmain)may go back to their respective homeland…!y r u denigrating a integrated atmosphere in Dravidian homeland?
so do not ever blame the british that they are reason for dividing people to rule india. Nature is still watching all. I think britisher are always having sympathy towards all who are suffering, old britishers must have told all the secrets to them i guess. yes!!!! only people belong to christianity and islam only know all the secrets.
Secrets means the ancient secrets. They both know very well that we dravidans are the worst affected.
Dear all.
First of all no one is “Brahman” in india if it gives the meaning to explain the “uppercaste arrogance”.
First of all “Indian” A muslim in india is also an indian. We should not talk about caste system here. A christian in india is also an indian. Muslim belongs to the religion “Islam” and Christian belongs to the religion “Christianity”.
No variations should be there in the society to degrade the people.
Tibetans are also here in india, chinese are also in calcutta for centuries. Gujaratis, Parsis and rajasthanis in chennai for centuries. Negroiod people in gujarat too. They are working for a monthly salary of Rs.3000/- there since the time of king of gujarat in junagadhTribes of Gujarat – RabarisTribals such as the Siddhis, Rabaris, Padhars, Mers and Bharwads live in the coastal Saurashtra districts of Junagadh, Jamnagar and Kutch. They work as casual labourers, cattle breeders and find employment in the ports.The Siddhis are known to have come to India from East Africa and have distinct Negroid features. The Rabaris and the Mers seem to have come from the Mediterranean in early times.
India is full of all culture and relgions and thats why it is called the “country of Secularism”. If to demean any tamizhian for the topic Tamizh or sanskrit would not be entertained in future.
The topic should be discussed and proof should be given to establish the antiquity the tamizhian should not be humiliated in future and whoever is supporting by evidances should not be treated as an enemy.
While drinking the water of thiravidian land one should know that the water is for all not for particular community. The fresh air is flowing for all not for any particular community with “superiority complex”. What we breath the same air is left for the people living nearby. Those who have black hair on head should paint it white if they keep hatredness for the black colour.
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Cunt.
Dont use the word “muslim” to defame the muslims.
Aryan has been talking against muslims for years and still it continues. I dont know what is their “problem”.
Dear,
In sanskrit the names of star are Tara, Sitara and nakshatra.
Tn tamil we say “Natchathiram…so the root word is here natcha+THIRAM…here comes “thiram” which became “tara” and chathira became “Sitara” in sanskrit and natchatiram became nakshatra by adding the sound “Sha”.
So, the root word of english word “STAR” is in tamil word “NATCHATHIRAM”.
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The word Naksatra is Combination of 2 tamizh words (Nasi+Taram)
Nasi- Nasi means ‘Azhi’ or nasukutal or destroy(English)
Taram: Taram derivative of the word ‘ Tula ‘ meaning ‘to shine’
Taram(star or planet which is shining) -Tarakai-Taraka(Sanskrit)
Nasi + Taram= Nasitaram=Naksatra(sanskrit)
Usually stars are considered to falling after life time such as meteors or other heavenly bodies.Falling star or ‘shining material falling after its lifetime.
Dear Abdul sir,
Thanks for the information. I think i could not explore the tamizh literature because of personal problmes in life. I do not have knowledge about english literature also. Only 2 years of study of MA could not provide me the whole culture of this world. I had the opportunity to study in english medium for 4 years only . (11th &12th standard & MA) I think i need more and more time to explore this world.
who is who??????
Dear all,
“Full moon” in sanskrit is POORNIMA
But in tamil is MUZHU NILAVU……so the English name “Moon” is from the tamil word muzhu+nilavu= mu+n.
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In Indonesian, POORNIMA becomes “PURNAMA.”
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Dear Zul,
First of all I remind you that buddism started in India and later on it was taken to other countries like japan, china, malaysia and indonesia. Magasthanis is one of the buddhists who travelled a lot spreading the religion buddism.
Though we have some words related to this “pura” in tamizh like “Puranam” (tale) Literally Periya PuraNam means ‘big literary work’ and the name given by SEkkizhAr was ThoNdar PurANam (தொண்டர்புராணம்).
We in tamizh culture have the habit of telling tales to kids by watching and showing the moon so that the kids eat the food properly.
Pura also means …to keep, preserve, protect, govern, bestow, reverence.
Purai means defect or error also.
We say theipirai and valar pirai….theipirai means the Thei+ pirai is the waning period of the moon from the Paurnami (full moon) to Ammavaasai (black moon). …Valar pirai is the waxing time of the moon from Ammavaasai.
We also say in tamizh “poorana nilavu (the full moon).
The sacred tri-strips (Thiru Namam) on one’s forehead.
So, the pura+nami …the stripes are white in colour because they are made of ash made by burning the cow dung. Nami must have come from “Namam”.
Nilama in tamizh is Blue Sapphire. So, here the “poornima” is from the word “Nilama”….nila+ma.
I think i have to go to the deepest meaning of ancient words.
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Muzhu mathi would sound better
Dear Abdul Sir,
Yes. “muzhu mathi” sounds two ancient tamizh but i was trying to connect between moon and muzhu nilavu..if you say continuosly muzhy nilavu without stop then this word moon comes…we also say nilavu another tamizh word for moon.
nila nila odi vaa…..
moon moon come fast…
It seems so many ancient tamizh words are lying deep in the ocean. Still mysterious. Poor people they did not have the modern technology in those days to preserve them all. I am curious about how many people died in kumari kaandam and also curious about any relatives of those who died in “Lemuria” Are they still alive in any part of India and do they have any secrets about the lost city of lemuria?
So, SUN, MOON AND STAR have connection with the tamizh words. The three important energy providers and symbols of divine nature for all the religions of this world
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i found relation between MuzhU Mathi (full moon) and Mohammadi…your religion give importance to moon..I may be wrong.
Tamizhians always become refugees not because of natural disaster but also because of atrocities man-made. we are made to live in this region forcibly. But it is good to mingle with the ocean, she is chaste always. Let all the sinners live happily forever.
Please visit the givenbelow site for the informations about the relationship between sumeria and indus valley.
http://sites.google.com/site/sumeriantamil/home
Because of population explosion, trade, desire to see new lands, war and destruction, enmity, poverty and pestilence, floods and deluge and such other reasons the Tamils of Kumari spread across the land in different directions.
After Tamil was sufficiently developed, the main direction of their migration was towards the North. The fact that Bengal has as its capital city KaaLik Koottam, a word in pure Tamil itself is an indication that in the ancient times itself the Tamils migrated as far as the snow clad mountains of the Himalayas.
Because Tamil was the natural language and the only one language for a long time there was no specific name for it, it was just known with the general name of ‘language’ as such. But as it spread across the Northern lands, it started changing and assuming new forms. Because of this the ancient Tamils called the North a land of changed language. It is only at this point the Southern variety was known as Tamil
When Tamil changed and became a branch language that was unintelligible , the word Tamizam also became Tiraavidam( tamiz > tamizam> tramiLa> travida. travidam. traavidam). And because of that the language that differentiated itself from Tamil came to be known as Tiravidam. Initially it was just a single language but in course of time multiplied into a variety of such branch languages. And because Telugu was the first such a language to branch off, it was called Vadugu ( a language in the North or of the Northern lands). Then it became vadugu. This word assuming the -am ending became also ‘vadugam’. This word ‘vadugu’ became ‘badagu’ in Kannada. We must note here that the tribal people living in the Nilgiri Hills and who speak a language that branched off from Kannada are called Badagar
It is only a branch of the Northern Dravidians who went further North West and founded the Sumerian civilization.
The city of Abraham dated around 2000 B.C. is said to be Ur. This word in Babylonian language means a township, a city etc. In ancient Tamil Nad , only large settlements in the agricultural areas was termed Ur. One of the beams unearthed in the excavations done in (Sumerian) Ur, is said to be teak wood from KeraLa. The initial ‘aab” in Abraham appears to be a variant of ‘appan’ a Tamil word meaning father.
Ur was the capital of Sumer. As a general name for a city it was wide in use in SumeroTamil literature. You can see this in Sirbiyam, MutarIbiyam, and Suruppak’s neRi that is currently being studied and serialized. Yes it is in the agricultural lands that Ur as a settlement and a city originated. Moral thinking and legal institutions also originated here as part of temple culture. You can see evidences for this in the Kes Temple Hymns of Enhudu Anna ( ~2200 B.C.) and the Suruppak’s NeRi). The name Abraham can also be derived from ab-ra-akam where it means ‘the one who came (ra) from the waters (ab-ba). In Sumerian we have both abba as father and ab-ba as a large sea. Abraham may பெ a descendent of Ji.usudra, the hero of the deluge. Saivites retain this memory as the TONi Appar, the Old Man of the Boats.
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In 1960, B.B. Lal of the Archaeological Survey of India wrote a paper in the journal Ancient India. It carried a photograhic catalog of megalithic and chalcolithic pottery which Lal compares with the Ancient Indus script.[9] Ancient inscriptions that are claimed to bear a striking resemblance to those found in Indus Valley sites have been found in Sanur near Tindivanam in Tamil Nadu, Musiri in Kerala and Sulur near Coimbatore.
Dear all,
About Siddha
Siddha system of medicine is a form of a traditional medicine system which originated down south. Siddha means achievement, which was attained by Siddhars. They were saints who were mystics and are credited for developing and forwarding the system of Siddha medicine. It is believed thDat there were eighteen Siddhars in total, who are also referred to as the enlightened souls. The Siddha literature is also written in Tamil and is mainly practiced in Tamil speaking regions of the country and abroad.
The Siddha System is largely therapeutic in nature and its origin can be traced back to the birth of human race on the planet. According to mythological and historical beliefs, the initial home of mankind was located in the temperate and fertile regions of the East. The human race started its culture and career from here. India for that matter of fact can also be regarded as one of the first countries in the world, from where the mankind started its journey of evolution.
Moreover, this wondrous land was primarily inhabited by the Dravidians of whom the Tamilians were the most prominent. They were also accredited for being one of the most developed civilizations which ever dwelled upon this planet. However, even at that point of time a dominant segregation was visible between the North and the South regions of India. For instance, Sanskrit presided over North while Dravidian language was predominant in South. This holds true for the science of medicine as well.
Like Ayurveda was prevalent in the north, Siddha was flourishing in the south. Owing to its antiquity, the origin of this system is attributed to the Creator himself. As per traditional tales, it is deemed that Lord Shiva unfolded the knowledge about Siddha to his divine consort Goddess Parvati. She in turn passed it onto Nandi Dev, who eventually handed it to the Siddhars. Nevertheless, Saint Agastiyar is accredited for founding the Siddha system of medicine. His works on medicine and surgery, still serve as standards among Siddha medical practitioners.
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Whoever created this world whoever was the first human race….a miracle shall happen one day to tell about Tamizhians!!!!!!!!
About Siddha, the ancient tamiz medical practice.
Varma treatment
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Varma is a separate science prescribed by the siddhars. According to siddha science there are 72000 varma in our body. In the Varma texts, like “Odi Murivu Sari Nool”, there are 108 varma points in our body.
A varma point is a place was life force is acting. If it is hurt in a particular manner and with force, signs and symptoms develop according to the site of the point. If these signs and symptoms are not set aright within the stipulated period, death will occur. So these are emergencies, which can be called orthopedic emergencies according to recent medical science specific physiotherapy was indicated for each type of varma. . In fact varmakkalai, as it is called, is the forerunner of now popularly known “acupressure”. Because varmakkalai , is like a two edged knife it was not taught to all and sundry. Hence its popularity waned even though the art itself is well preserved and practiced by specialists to day. Varmam speaks of circulatory system of physic. As treatment it is used to repair blood blockades in body .As self –guarding method it teaches of impairing blood circulatory system. Varmam is like a junction where several blood vessels meet .If you know from where the particular blood vessel comes and to which part it goes then by properly attacking those junctions you can cure or create disease at some other points in the body. Thus it is a double-edged blade. There are 108 such junctions identified in the body.
There are mainly three different types of varmam namely
1. Thodu varmam
2. Padu varmam and,
3. Thattu varmam.
In addition internal medicines were also indicated. Varma science described the various kinds of fractures, which occur in the body and their cures.
This science seems to be the basis for the different types of martial arts like KALARI, JUDO AND KARATE.
Plenty of martial arts of tamil siddha or secretly practiced in the KANYA KUMARI area. At there plenty of varma treatments are held by varma asan (master). All varma roots only we see at this place only. All un known symptoms and diseases are only cure through varma treatement.
Dear all,
Kal thonri man thontra kalathay mun thonri mootha kudi”- a second century literature- means when before stone became sand in earth the tamil tribes were formulated
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Taken from net.
“Thevanayap pavanar” started his career as English teacher went on reading English formation and at last he found tamil was the origin for all the languages in the world. He started the roots formation guided by Maxmuller / Galduwell.
Doorvaja Banthgae (Hindi) ‘Theruvasal poththunga’ (tamil)- ‘Kathava Moodunga’ (another dialect)
Doorvaja Kolagae (Hindi) ‘Theruvasal Thoranga’ (tamil) ‘ Kathava Thiranga’ (another dialect)
Yahang Aav (Hindi) ‘Engae Vaa’ (tamil)
Kithap patna(Hindi) ‘Puththakam padi’
Tamil started with suttu oligal / vowels.That is a,e,u . ‘a,e,i,o,u’ are vowels as you know by English. These will have a, aa, e, ee, u, uu, o, oo,i apart from ae, aae, av, ah sounds which were present only in world ancient languages. In this ‘av’ and ‘ah’ sounds were predominantly in ancient languages.
All suttu oligal have meaning only in tamil not in any other language of world.
These suttu oligal formed extension in words.
Expanded words shrinked and tilted in its form formulating new dialects / new languages.
These shrinked words don’t have vowels at the beginning. But have consonants of later origin.
Tamil only can claim the root words since most of the Sanskrit words never start with vowels.
For example : Eravu – Raththiri
Eravu has ‘Iru’ root . This root formed the words ‘erumpu, irul, Irukku, Iruppu etc.
Tamil consonant starting words also have root in vowel starting words.
‘Sanku’ – sam+ku – ‘Sam’ is from ‘Am’ which formulated the word ‘ambalam’ where Am and sam has same meaning ‘club’.
You talked about common origin. If there is a common origin where is the common origin ? No symptoms of common origin prevalent in India.
You must understand Tamil history is related to world history. Hence talking tamil history shall not mean talking against any language / race.
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The above given informations taken from net.
Dear Mantra,
Though there are so many Anglo-indians in india and converted christians during british rule most of the christians today in india belong to the backward class. They could not tolerate the fact they are neglected in the society and they are given the name “shudra”. There were cases in kerala several years before that the temple priest had not allowed the backward class people into the temple. They could not tolerate the humiliation. When their heart was full of pain, Christianity came as an effective “balm” for their woundings.
They asked the question when “God” is for all why they are not allowed into the temples. Thats the reason why their mind had gone towards the relgion christianity. Evenafter spending money for the Hindu God…God does not grant them blessings. Who makes diversity among people…..it was only the priests of the temple.
So many christian mission used to and even now they give monthly relief money to the christians. It helps them to some extent get away from their life full of poverty. Would hindu temple give them money?
No hindu temple give money to the poor people. If they put the money in the “Hundis” thats over..they can not get it back after some time even if they could not afford to get three time meal. Gone is Gone.
We have similiarities between the three major religions, saivism (hinduism), christianity and islam. The religious spot whatever it is …should follow simplicity and discipline. I think we dont provide the hindu people who are in despair the relief and life full of comfort
But the christianity is providing the poor christians with money.
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Taken from net ……
Tirupati (Andhra Pradesh), May 24,2010 (ANI): The Tirupati Temple in Andhra Pradesh has for the first time deposited 1,075 kilograms of gold with the State Bank of India (SBI) owing to security concernsThe interest rate offered by SBI is one percent for three years, 1.25 percent for four years and 1.5 percent for five years.
The temple annual income which was Rs. 37 lakhs in 1945-46 rose to 9 crore in 1970-71 to Rs. 23 crore by 80-81 and then toRs. 108 cr. (90-91) and touched all time high of Rs. 300 crore during 1997-98 By the end of the millennium TTD is expecting its income to touch the Rs.350 crore mark.
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Evenafter crores of rupees are showered on the temple by the public i think Andhrapradesh is still facing ‘NAXALITES’. Recently Kanchi Sankaracharya donated a crown worth Rs.2.5 crores to the Tirupati temple to decorate the Lord. What is the use? He said that it was the money collected from the (people of tamizhnadu (obviously) devotees that helped making the crown. We tamizhilians would have been the happiest if the money was used to remove the poverty of Andhrapradesh. They are also humans. We dont treat them badly. It is the duty of the temple authorities to help the poor mass.
I think i have written enough.
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Dear all,
We would like to ask Why recently S.V. Sekhar went to meet Rahul Gandhi?
What was the reason?
What was he discussing with him?
Now, Rahul Gandhi is in chennai to ask the tamizh actors to join the politics….does that have a connection with “Spiliting of Tamizhians”?
I know a foolish tamizhian is crazy about actors and they are always ready to build a temple for the famous actors. very very funny!!!!
Do they still want to make all of us fight with each other and die?
Innocent people never use their “brain” they are very very emotional, thats why so many people are exploiting these days.
Terrorism or any other sort of violence in the name of religion or caste or creed is objectionable. No one is supporting killing a woman by stoning or cutting one’s head off. Very very barbaric. No one is supporting a muslim terrorist with a BOMB. We already told Abdul sir to teach their youngsters to follow peaceful methods.
The whole INTERNET is talking about aryanisation from the beginning to present day customs and terrorism of muslims, sikhs, LTTE, maoists and naxalites of all sorts. There are so many topics written about all the religions which are exploitative in nature and cheat the public. U can find out.
I think people are “frustrated” about so many things.
Where there is IMPURITY tamizh can not survive.
If it would be ever “Dead” let it sleep under the sand.
AN EMPTY VESSEL ONLY MAKES NOISE.
Niraikudam koothaadaadu.
I think i am wasting my time making efforts to keep the antiquity of tamizh.
I wish the three oceans should engulf all of us tamzhians at the earliest so that we can go peacefully from this place full of corruption vulgarity and people with superiorty complex.
Let us medidate for the blessing “Death”. We would be all silent in the graveyard and sleep peacefully.
JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED.
U wrote
“So being good or bad depends on the situation u live and it doesnot depend on the language u speak or the caste u belong to”
Again and again why the term “Caste” is being used”
All belong to the HUMAN RACE only. The way of worshipping is different. The religion should not exploit the people and humiliate them.
If you go to visit the sentinel tribes of Nicobaar region they wont allow you in…because they want to live a peaceful life. They know humans would harm their nature of living.
The sentinels dont have caste and religion and they are LIVING.
The only island on earth which does not have human made castiesm and religion is the NICOBARI ISLAND. They are the best examples for ‘DIVERSITY”.
Even today …i write about this year “2010”, so many DALIT people are suffering because they are neglected and made to experience the humiliation.
No one was protesting when Later Prime Minisiter of India, Rajiv Gandhi was sending the Indian Army to kill the tamizhians in Sri Lanka…you write about DIVERSITY and you write also that TAMIZH is the PRIDE of India.
ya… i accept ur point… but u cant say oly brahmins are spreading diversity… see, even people belong to BC( sorry for using this word) wont marry a girl or guy from MBC/SC….See the diversity starts here.. not oly brahmins, in all type of area diversities are there.. I used the word “caste” becuse of u oly.. i dont care about castes..
Dear Mantra,
Thanks for your comments. Today so many people are donating blood and it helps a lot of people during accident cases.
The hospital authorities dont ask for caste before taking the blood from the nerves.
Those people who care about caste would change after 10 years.
I hope so.
they wont allow.
you the creator of all problems..hell with you!!!! When God was creating you beside him satan was also sitting. God was innocent. God only know how to hold the sand so tightly, he was keen about his job but satan was diverting him at that time. God did not fill up but satan did. God also made both good and bad humanbeings only to test them all.
Sorry, there was a mistake while writing.
MEERA JASMIN, the actress was NOT ALLOWED inside the temple of LORD AYYAPPA because she is a CHRISTIAN.
When people were writing the name ARYAN no one came to protest but only the name BRAHMIN was used they come.
So, what is hurting after all?
It is hurting them because they could not again impose upon people
that brahmins colour is white, vaisyas’s brown, kshatriyas brown and shudra’s black.
Who are you to divide the people in the name of caste system?
Who gave you the authority?
Did you ask your elders before talking about DIVERSITY why they are still using the terms they created to split the humans?
There are shudras white in colour in northeren india but the colour of a brahmin in south india, is brown or black here. Could you say that he is a “SHUDRA” just becos he is black?
Even we tamizihans do not know the exact name of AGATHIYAR who wrote the grammer of tamizh but u people are writing even the names of his father and mother and he was a native of Gujarat. Even today a brahmin can not pronounce the tamizh words correctly and you say that a brahmin had created the tamizh grammer…..
We tamizhians do not try to talk the tamizh in its purest form but you people are trying…. it shows that it is a “foreign” language for you.
When you do not know the ‘ANTIQUITY’ of tamizh just do not comment about that.
There was an incidant last year the malayali actress MEERA JASMIN was allowed to enter the temple LORD AYYAPPA. Because she is a CHRISTIAN. Before converting her religion she was a “human” belong to the dravidian race. What is her fault? Instead of appreicating her desire to visit the temple you people made a controversy. It shows even today the brahmins always split the people in the name of religion and caste. WHERE WERE YOU THAT TIME? ASK MEERA JASMIN.
Just try to mingle with all the tamizhians.
again i am trying to tell u one thing… Even christians wont eat the prasadams given in hindu temples… hindus will go to churches… but mostly christians wont come to hindu temples… so i cant say christians are the reason for diversity…. got it? Our government give us full rights to follow whatever we choose… I like gandhi so i am following him, if some one likes subhash ,i cant say he is bad… Hope u understand!
Generally humans are full of all kinds of emotions, love, hatredness, sympathy etc.etc. when they are not treated as humans and not given a space to sit in the holy shrine what is the use of that God and shrine? God never stops them only selfish humanbeings. Do not talk and indicate the religions, christians, muslims, hindus, sikhs…just think about their emotions. Thousands of sikhs were murdered in india said to be the place where all kinds of religious thoughts emerged, what kind of lessons or morals those hindus learnt from their holy scriptures, what made them the animals and kill them for no fault on their part. Those murdered were all innocents, parents, kids all “brutal massacre”, muslims were murdered, tamizhians are murdered. These matters are very very serious.. How can people change their colour so easily? When you would talk about killing of animals for having feast, would you also sit and think about killing of humans by humans in a cruel manner? In orissa, a christian father was burnt alive some years before…We got a call from orissa from our manager Mr.Satpathy telling about the murder. I spoke to him too in delhi full of shock….i do not want to relate the uncontrolled flood later to create the natural destruction in orissa thereafter with this. What kind of discipline we see in india? we are heartless.
I want you to be “human”. you hate all but not the brahmins who were the real creators. We are all suffering because of them.
Light shows “God”
Darkness shows “Satan”
Wisdom shows “God” that is “Formless”
Fear makes “God”
But people are in need of a “Form”
But It does not show its “Form”
STOP SEARCHING.
The matter is over.
THE TRUTH IS THAT THE EXISTANCE OF A
“SUPER NATURAL INVISIBLE POWER”
Thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sivam
Dear all,
In this recently released Vijay’s song (Tamil film “vettaikaaran”) why sanskrit words had been added. who was responsible for adding these words? Did vijay know it before? Who were the people responsible for mixing sanskrit in tamil song? Who is the music director?
In the beginning as well as in the last para of the song, the sanskrit words are coming (listen to the song)
It would mean that “RE-ENTRY OF ARYANS” in TAMIZH LAND again.
Do not ENCOURAGE them in future. BEWARE!!!!!!!
Puli urumudhu puli urumudhu
Idi idikkuthu idi idikkuthu
Kodi parakkuthu kodi parakkuthu
Vettaikaran varatha paathu..
Kola nadunguthu kola nadunguthu
Thudi thudikuthu thudi thudikuthu
nalakolaikuthu nalakolaikuthu
Vettaikaran varatha paathu..
patta kathi pala palaka
patti thotti kala kalakka
paranthu varan vettaikaran vaamararin kootukaran
nikkama odu odu odu odu odu odu
odu odu odu odu odu odu odu odu
varan paaru vettaikaran
Puli urumudhu puli urumudhu
Idi idikkuthu idi idikkuthu
Kodi parakkuthu kodi parakkuthu
Vettaikaran varatha paathu..
Kola nadunguthu kola nadunguthu
Thudi thudikuthu thudi thudikuthu
nalakolaikuthu nalakolaikuthu
Vettaikaran varatha paathu..
Yaarivan yaarivan yaarivan
Antha aiyanaar ayudham pol koor ivan
Irubathu nagangalum kazhugudaa
Ivan irupathey ulagukku azhagudaa
Adanga marutha una azhichuduvan
Ivan amilathamondu thanam pudichiduvan
Ivanoda nyayam thani nyayam
Athu ivanaala adangum aniyayam
Podu adiya podu, podu adiya podu
Tangaru tangaru tangaru tangaru tangaru tangaru naa
Podu tangaru tangaru tangaru tangaru tangaru tangaru naa
Puli urumudhu puli urumudhu
Idi idikkuthu idi idikkuthu
Kodi parakkuthu kodi parakkuthu
Vettaikaran varatha paathu..
Kola nadunguthu kola nadunguthu
Thudi thudikuthu thudi thudikuthu
nalakolaikuthu nalakolaikuthu
Vettaikaran varatha paathu..
*****Ashadhoma shargamaya dhamasoma jyothirgamaya
Brithyorma amirthamgamaya om shanti shanti hee*****
what is there in using sanskrit words in a tamil song? it comes under Indian languages only know.Y u r using English? U r allowing a Language(English) from a people who made us to be slaves for more than century… But U wont allow sanskrit ah? If every one start to think that their language is the best, Thats It.. sanskrit is one of our India’s Pride like Tamil… Under stand that…
I know WHO YOU ARE.
Stop torturing “TAMIZH” please. Leave us alone.
Like all languages “Tamizh” innocent, the people who use it for selfish purposes are not “INNOCENT”.
We had enough. You know that.
According to me, everything in this world has both pros and cons.. Its upto us to choose which we want.. I am a tamizh orator.. Tamizh is my mother tongue… i love my mother more than any other languages.. But still i am giving respects to the other languages too… Understand..
Dear Mantra
“Thayir siranda koyilum illai”
No temple is as great as a “mother”
Its good to know that you respect your mother a lot.
When i sing a song in hindi i want to immerse into it knowing the meaning. Eventhough i could not understand the real meaning of hindi song when i was a kid i used to appreiate. Without knowing bengali language i like Robindra Sangeet, without knowing the meaning of our national Anthem “Jana Gana Mana” people give respect to the song all over india. Language does not know partiality. It does not show any barrier.
We people only want to create the barrier and rule the region. I know so many brahmin elders are suffering in the “old Age Homes”. They only curse their children. Even so many customs introduced by an aryan are not acceptable in their own community itself. “Tonsure of Head” is one of the examples. It was abolished later on. Tonsure (cutting the hair of a widow after her husband’s death) They only created this custom and later on it was abolished.
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Human Rights and Culture – Issue 23
FOR PUBLICATION
AHRC-ART-024-2008
September 12, 2008
Sati – Brahmin Annihilation of Widows – Chapter 5
This chapter proves that Sati was a result of Brahmin oppression and cruelty. Initially introduced by barbaric Aryan invaders, the Brahmins enforced it upon the non-Brahmins in order to confiscate the properties of the non-Brahmin widows and to exterminate non-Brahmins races so as to establish an ethnically cleansed `Brahmavarta’.
The Aryans, upon their invasion of India ca. 1500 B.C. introduced the horrific custom of sati, ie. the burning of a woman after the death of her husband. When performed singly it is referred to as sati, when performed en masse by all the women and daughters of a town in anticipation of their widowhood (eg. when the men were to fight a battle against all odds), it is known as jauhar. It is sanctioned by their most sacred texts, and was practiced from the fall of the Semito-Dravidian Indus Valley civilization to the modern age
The Vyasa Smrti gives one of the two alternatives for a Brahmana widow, ie. either to become a sati or to take up ascetism after her tonsure [ Vyasa Sm. II.53 ] [ Sm.S. p.362 ] [ 1200, p.67 ftn.136 ].
No brahmin woman it seems lost her life following SATI but surely she had to perform “Tonsure”.
I hope like tonsure and sati other cruel customs would also be abolished as a humanitarian efforts.
I hope no person would be called brahmin, vaisya, kshatriya and shudra….all can perform or do all kinds of jobs…all are talented.
i really do not understand “you”….what is your problem after all?
why did u erase the tamizh words in kancheepuram temples? answer me. Go and delete ur sanskrit and make our tamizh mother live.