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Dear all,
What siva telling about dowry system is correct and it would lead us all to bright future. We should help the girls and their family. There are so many girls above 35 years still unmarried because they could not pay the money and jewellery because the boy is demanding more. Middle class people are suffering because of this. One another thing the south indian girls should not be crazy about jewellery. She is the reason for creating the desire for gold and other ornaments in the society. Only one thin chain is enough. They feel proud of wearing a lot of heavy jewelleries. It also create the chain snatchers and robberers in the society. A girl looks beautiful without much jewellery. She should save the money instead of spending for ornaments.
When the westerners are following our culture like learning yoga, wearing kurta pyjaama, sarees, doing meditation and our importance for relationships, joint family culture and appreciate the different unique colours of our ancient history. Why cant we people follow their culture without DOWRY?…..a girl in foreign country do not have such problems in the society. She looks beautiful also without much jewellery. She is very very simple. No death because of torture of the family of the bridegroom. Why do we people always expecting the girls family for everything. A boy should feel proud of helping the girls family and he should mingle with them in a friendly manner.
A girl ofter marriage leaves her parents home forever and expect lots of love and affection from the family of the boy, but most of them treat her very badly. Why people are narrow minded, if the mother-in-law treat the daughter-in-law like her own daughter, the girl would also come to know that there is no need for her to feel afraid of her future. She would shower them with respect and love also. Please try to change the corruptive dowry system in the society. In india woman has been given a lot of respect and she should treated as a Godess.
By nature the girls are physically very weak and emotional. Sadly, a woman becomes the reason for murdering a woman in the society.
Where do we keep our brain? Why do we follow so many customs even now evil natured?
Dear all,
one thing i would like to clarify that apart from india the dowry system is reverse. The boy has to to pay or put some money to the girls account before he is going to marry her. Now think at the earlier stages of Indian culture the boy had paid the girls family with 1 yrs required needs (food clothing, etc). But some stupids changed the system i dont want to again & again to point them & the worst thing in this modern century we are following the same. Some changes has to be made.
I hope in upcoming years these will not be followed.
It will be a great boon to all the girls if the boys are not going to demand anything from the family of girls. It will put an end to all kinds of problems in life.
Dear all,
one can not deny the fact that south indian employees are given importance in northern part of india. When they let their house for rent also they prefer first of all south indians, because they are sure that south indians would pay the rent in time. They are all Good pay master for them.
When i left my office, my boss wanted me to search for a south indian computer operator for our office, because they have the opinion that she or he would concentrate on work and be honest. As far as english typing or communication or dealing official correspondence also they think that south indians are efficient. I also have a certificate from my boss for doing the job in efficient manner and for hard work also. He wished me good luck.
So, we should find out why people are crazy about MONEY. Why the autorickshaw wallah is demanding extra money. The first and the worst thing in the society now is DOWRY. The girl has to pay gold jewellery and cash for marrying a guy.
Today the gold rate per gram is 2000/-
If the guy ask you for 20 pavun (20*8 grams) atleast then it would be 160 grams. The value of the gold is 3,20,000/-
But the family of the bridegroom are demanding more than 50 pavun today, they also ask scooter, car, all the electronic items at home, cash also and also the family of the bride would have to spend money for arranging marriage and order food, printing the invitation, gifts for relatives …. So much of money for the marriage.
So, we should first of all pluck out the ROOT then only all the people would get relieved from all the pressure and tension.
I think all should sit and discuss the matters and help the family of the girls. Humanitarian consideration should be looked and please try to be honest. Girls are also earning these days in the cities. Is there a need for the devil DOWRY?
Dear all,
Want of money has made the human to cheat not only in chennai all over the world, the same condition. If you go to PALIKA BAZAAR in new delhi there they would say Rs,200/- for a thing the actual price would be only 100/-. The people who reside in delhi know this, but the people new to delhi would be get cheated. The same is happening for a foriegner in delhi also. To put the blame on a tamizhian is showing partiality.
Everyone has to change and be “honest”. Not only chennaite but the whole india should be honest about telling the original price or fare. Any one can survive in chennai if he knows English. There is no need for hindi to suppress the people. But, the knowledge about hindi language is necessary to communicate since in arab countries also u need hindi for communication.
We always give respect to north indians in chennai. They dont complain about us. But it is not the case with south indians. If you people are living togther there, they wont try to cheat you. But if they know that you dont have support and if you are alone then there are so many GANGS to exploit you. Especially a south indian girl or a woman should be always characterwise good and disciplined. Otherwise she is gone. They may change your mind to go on wrong track. You should first of all observe the people and make friends.
We do not cheat the north indian girls and women here. But its not the case in delhi. The condition is the WORST. Keralities in delhi live united and they can not be cheated. But changing the mind of a innocent girl is very easy for people with crooked mind. BE ALERT!!!!The poverty of the girl does not create sympathy….i think even after worshipping Gods why people are doing this? All are ETHIESTS.
Today, knowing hindi would only mean to protect yourself and also for better communication.
*Actual price in Palika Bazaar is Rs50 only.It is not cheating but it is the pricing skill.You should have the skills to explore the actual price,you can win the deal.If one say the price as Rs 50 ,then buyer would try to bring down to Rs 15 or 20.So,they start with Rs200 and depends on your bargaining skill ,you can reduce the price even lesser than Rs 50.If you continue to speak or bargain in Tamizh to them ,THERE ARE ULTIMATE CHANCES TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE.This a strategy to overcome negotiation within appreciable limit.Also,this changes from market to market.This is nothing to do with cheating confined to particular region.
*Keralites are (not only united in new delhi) united everywhere…!
Dear abdul sir,
yes you are rite. BARGAINING makes all the wonders. Ok, me leaving for some days.
Diwali is nothing but DEEPAM+OLI= LIGHT+BRIGHTNESS.
THEEPAVALI – THEE means fire….OLI means brightness in tamizh.
I think abdul sir is here to explain all the words and their root words clearly.
bye all of you. take care all of you.
yes, the north indian business men knows about south indian culture, they would reduce the price but they wont do it for a punjabi..because they know that we are people who lead life so simple and we dont waste money on luxury goods. We do not spend money for lipsticks, perfumes and other make-up items, and colourful slippers, handbags, fast food etc etc. We give importance to basic things for leading life. Thats the reason why a heartless punjabi is exploiting a poor tamizhian also. We are always treated badly for leading our life so “simple”.
Dear All,
Because there is no Hindi in tamilnadu the real beneficiary was auto drivers,who are charging three times higher from other state people than they charge for local people.A north Indian friend told me he has given 150 Rs. for coming from Chennai central to Chennai park station.I was shocked to hear this,because Chennai people will know what is the distance between central and park.A white man from U.K. given a nick name as cheating Chennai because of auto drivers.Tamil peoples attitude has to change either we should know Hindi or English.Because of politicians making politics with language the image of Tamil and Tamil culture get destroyed.
Evey where auto drivers cheat ,either it is chennai or newdelhi? nothing to do with place.It is the only place where national unity rests.Even a auto driver in chennai has tried to fool me by charging 3 times of real fare ,on seeing my south tamilnadu slang(madurai slang which is different from chennai chentamizh).They are good at cheating all ,direction either north or south doesnt matter here.It is all about economy and it is a common phenomenon.
Dear Abdul Sir,
I am laughing here when you say that chennaite are talking chentamizh. Today no tamizhian in chennai is proununcing the letters correctly. They have murdered the tamizh language….hahahaha……They dont know how to prounounce “zha” and “Nna” (mooNu suzhi Na) they dont know how to prounounce “Lla” For example to say avargaL, they say avargal, for vazhaipazham they say vaalaipalam.
Ok, one another the poor people under poverty line say BEMAAANI this is nothing but in hindi BEMAAN (means faithless) it seems the poor people had been learning a lot of hindi words from the pawn shop owners Marwaaris. The servantmaid in my flat says, when the maarwari community leave their state rajasthan for chennai, they would say “THERE IS A STATE FULL OF MAD PEOPLE, (pythiakaaran ooru) LETS GO THERE AND EXPLOIT THEM” and they pack their all goods and come here. hahahhahaha……
bye
SO finally, humans are against humans, how to solve the problem?
send all of them to the jungle and make all the animals live in the city. :)
but i have found people so innocent in the deeper south parts of tamizhnadu. The atmosphere especially in the cities like nagarkoil, kutraalam, thenkasi, senkottai, my pavoorchatram, keezhapavoor, the nearby villages and cities of tirunelveli is really pure. I can not find such innocence anywhere. Here, the life is “restless” and “corrupted” because of selfish people and modern culture.
Dear Muruven and all in South Africa,
How are you all? I hope all are fine. Recently, i read on newspaper that you people are going to complete 150th year in Afrrica, by next month November16th, 2010. A group of people from africa had a meeting with Chief Minister Mr.Karunanidhi also and requested him to send tamizh teachers to africa to teach the people and requested also to set up a tamizh library to keep all the tamizh literary works. Great!!!! We must do something to keep our tradition ALIVE.
I feel proud that you people are away from all kinds of nasty things and especially hinduism which is exploiting the innocent people all over india. At the same time, i also feel sad that you people had to leave our mother land and your talent could not be exhibited here. Anyways, wherever you are i am sure you people are spreading the glory of Tamizh and also about our lost land Kumari kandam and Dhanushkodi which are silently sleeping in the deepest ocean and our very own country sri lanka (ilangai) everyone knows the fact that the hard work and sweat of the tamizhians only made a country what sri lanka today is. A tamizhian is exploited everywhere.
Just like you people love south africa and the people over there, no people from outside of south india especially tamizh nadu do not love this land and the people. They are all selfish and they want to exploit us.
If there is a tsunami threat in tamizh nadu if there would be forecast that the whole tamiz nadu would go deep into the ocean, NO NORTH INDIAN, NO ARYAN would stay here. They would all go to their respective land (the rest of india) . But the tamizhian has no place to go in india, even if he goes he would be working as servants only. The honesty of a tamizhian only make him work as servants otherwise he or she would be flirting around and doing business of immoral nature like some indisiciplined people of india to earn money.
If you people visit india next time please visit important places in tamizh nadu, great architecture and herbal falls like kutraalam, paapanaasam, maamallapuram, chidambaram, madurai, tanjore, rameswaram (the paampan bridge),thirunelveli (nellaiappar temple world famous for great architecture) and teach the youngsters about our ancient glory also. Our tamizh kings had done a great job before leaving our sand.
Take care all of you.
Dear Ranjit and all,
What ranjit trying to say is correct. Everyone should know each other language to communicate in a better manner. But, the question here is the expoitation of poor tamizhians in this country called “India”. Yesterday, a tamizhian married woman, former LTTE group member was raped in sri lanka as per todays news paper report Dina Thanthi. What is the central govt. doing still? When it is quickly reacting for a north indian, why does not respond for a tamizhian.
It seems the life of a tamizhian is so cheap. The fair skinned north indians though they have dravidian blood always remain DEAF AND DUMB about tamizhians sadful plight.
Tamizhian by giving space to all the people from northern part has so far proved that he is secular. But what is the use? 90% of employees in Tiruppur Garment Factories are all biharis (from the state Bihar) Even then, no person from the bihar state government raise a voice in support of tamizhian. Maarwari (Rajasthanis) build huge buildings both commerical and residential here and receive huge rent and the tenants are also treated in a bad manner. Evenafter they are enjoying in our tamizh land they are torturing tamizhians. If we go to north they humiliate a tamilian by nick name, if the north indian come to tamizh nadu also they humiliate and torture. I want to know after all tamizhian does he have SELF-RESPECT or not?
If i learnt hindi then i also appreciate the hindi literature also. But if a north indian if ever learn tamizh fully will he ever try to appreicate tamizh literature? I think they learn for communicating and make their business flourish…thats all. The north indians first of all should know who a tamizhian is and what is his history and try to mingle with him in a friendly manner. Supporting “Sanskrit” is not going to help them all.
Sanskrit would only create partiality among people and encourage rivalry as well. It would only create commotion and confusion in india. We want a peaceful india where all communities live with dignity.
Dear Ravanan and other Friends,
Germany people speaking German and France people speaking French only because they are a separate nation.But Tamil nadu is not a separate nation,it is one of the states of India.There will be differences among us with other language speaking people but that doesn’t mean we are all not Indians.when there is hate campaign against north Indians in Maharashtra,sachin tendulkar has boldly spoken against Bal thackeray and Raj Thackeray by saying that he is an Indian first then only maharastrian.He also said that mumbai for all.I agree that Tamil and its culture is the oldest survivor in the world.we should not allow others to dominate us.But we should leave our ego and accept other languages as our languages.Do you know Tamil people who goes for north India loses their money to taxi drivers and auto drivers because they don’t know Hindi same fate for north Indians who are coming to Tamilnadu.so try to learn other languages also. if you know many languages then you will be like son of the land in any states.otherwise you will be like a foreigner. we are all Indians at First then only Tamizans.
IC. i still want all the tamizhians to explore all the languages.
Dear all,
In the film “Nayakan” it was told that vardha bhai was visiting the red light area, it is offenceful to show without knowing the real facts to defame a person who was respected by the poor tamizhians of mumbai. It would only show that all the tamizhians are people of bad habits. But in reality we are not….we were not in INDUS VALLEY but caught all the bad habits because of aryans.
Even illful drugs and drinks were introduced by the aryans. SOMA AND SURA both drinks were consumed by the aryans and thats what opened the way for all kinds of intoxicating drinks and spoil so many families today.
Dravidians festival PONGAL is one of the examples for purity. It does not create pollution as DIWALI. During HOLI festival in north, guys use BHANG a kind of drink which makes them excited and and create giddiness. So, aryans made festivals involves “impurity” .
Dear all,
Maniratnam may be telling the truth and making films of imagination, but he failed to show in his film “Nayakan” in the last episode how vardhabhai (Late Varadaraja mudaliar) died. In reality, his death was a NATURAL DEATH, he was not shot by anyone. If we say in the film “Gandhi” how he met with his end, then the facts were gathered and shown to the public. But it was not in the case of Nayakan. After all a non-brahmin had to suffer in films also. Truth should be told as truth to the people if the real story of a person..the director should not cheat the public using the cinema medium so strong.
Well! hinduism is nothing but full of tales and animal headed gods like varaaha avataar (pig headed), elephant headed avataar, snake, kaamadenu (it should be kuma+denu) hanumaan (monkey) etc…The aryans have been creating and the dravidians have been worshipping closing their eyes. One another story of vinayaka (elephant) is that when wife of sivan, parvati was before having bath gathered all the dirt from her body, heapful of them and made vinayaka. Very awful!!!!! May be its because the colour of elephant is black. They aryans had been creating stories and writing them also to fool the people. Periyaar during his period as per records in written form was making mockery of the Idol ganesha (elephant God) thats why during mayavatis’ plan to gather a meeting in the name of periyaar, …..the brahmins spread the tale that IDOL GANESHA IS DRINKING MILK to create the illusion and fool the people.
Yes. pongal is celebrated for thanking SUN and also thanking farmers who are our food suppliers. This help us all with daily meal and this pongal tell us about hardwork and about the energy of Nature. Also we worship cows and bulls as well ..we decorate them.
Lord muruga son of sivan is worshipped only in tamizh nadu and may be in other parts of our country. Siva and muruga both were tamizhians. Pucca dravidians!!!. Just because of the fact that murugan married a gypsy girl he is not worshipped anywhere. Who knows what is the truth and what is not. Anyways…all the stories are bedtime stories to make the kids sleep. But we elders only dont wake up even now.
Which God now should come down on earth to help?
when “nature” is watching who is the culprit and punish him for his bad deeds, why humans are punishing people because of their hatredness. its very difficult to understand humans, i feel so afraid to be with humans, let me go to the jungle full of poisonous animals, they are harmless indeed!!!! the one who is sending the “bow” is not noted but the “bow” is noted always.
Dear All,
We are always kept aside in all over the India even if u speak Hindi. India is stiched country by the Britishers. Before how it was & now it is the same. As per the north indian views we South Indians are Raavanas pepole as per the Ramayanam that drunked man’s story, who has the cruel mind, presently i am facing this problem. From the history (as per their views) to till date the same has been followed by these people. In this situation i should respect the Director of Ravanan Respected Mr. Manirathinam in his story he told( if its happened really) the truth he always do in his film.
We all know that Deepavali is the Festival of Light but it is not that, it is showing the Domination of us. Naragashuran is a created devil person by these people & he belongs to our community. The lord Krishna from their side he killed the naragashuran and that day is celebrated as deepavali.We should be ashamed to celebrate but do we.
Pongal is our festival do we all celebrate this as like deepavali, no. I was shocked by one christian friend he told me that pongal is a Hindus festival not us. I explained him that pongal is not religious festival, all religion can celebrate it is just giving thanks to the light which helped us to eat. See our festivals which will never hurt anybody in the world. The festivals which we are celebrating that will show the purity of us.
Does lord siva has two sons no & never. He has only one son Murugan & they were human beings and as per my knowledge these two persons were first members in Tamil Sangam. Then how this Vinayaga came in picture there u can see the dominations. One story for the fruit that vinayaka will win while rounding his father & mother that shows the real cunningness. Do u all know when this animal worshiping came in south india (Vinayaka). Raja Raja Chola has a war on Ganga & he wins there. He was shocked that they are worshiping Elephant & he introduced vinayaka in South India.
One sad thing has happened yesterday i kept Thiruvalluvar in my desktop as screen saver, My friend he belongs to south india he saw that picture & asked me who is this. This is not because of lack of knowledge, this is exactly because of Domination.
So friends dont fed up for this dominations, we are always capable of facing anything. we are survived from Mohenjadaro to till date in the complex of dominations means we are having something. So bring that something outside and make it in to manythings. Develope ourself with knowledge in all fields, then the world will tell us who we are.
Never reject to learn any buisness languages & Die instead of forgetting our Mother tounge. So keep this learning session continued so everyboby will know & gain knowledge on Tamil. Never worry for the Dominating comments. Keep continuing this is really helping my kind of people.
Valzha Tamil,
By Tamil Virumbum SIVA
Dear all,
German and French people speak their mother tongue. No doubt. But for communicating with people from outside they only use English. So, there is no harm in learning hindi at present. During the period of Late Rajaji and Periyar, the situation was different. There was a plan that by pushing Hindi, they wanted to suppress our mother language tamizh. Casteism was very much ACTIVE that time. But, the suppression is not prevailing today though it create problems here and there very silently. Even uppercaste non-brahmins are using this casteism to exploit the people who are facing poverty in the society. Selfish people use these customs to satisfy themselves. It is the “truth”.
If people working in gulf countries are facing problems because of hindi and if it is the “must language” then there is no harm in learning and communicating. Knowing a hindi language would only lead to perfection. BUT, if any language is trying to crush our mother tongue and try to send it to the GRAVEYARD then we should protest.
We tamizhians know the antiquity of our language tamizh and we do not disrespect any other language of this world. What we feel fear about is that there would be an attempt to dominate our tamiz land and tamizhians by spreading hindi in our state.
When we tamizhians are not given respect anywhere and when tamizhians are killed and tamizhian girls and women were raped in sri lanka, no one ever tried to help us. By sending the Indian Army to help the sri lankan army only shows that we are left ALONE. We were helpless and even now so many poor tamizhians are suffering in so many houses of wealthy punjabis working as servants and we do not know about their fate after some time. Are we tamizhians “indians”?
During british rule also south indians were suffering because of atrocities of aryans and their cruel customs. We had been suffering, tolerating and carrying pain in our heart. We could not express our problems to others. We had been protesting all alone. Wrong meaning was given to people about tamizhians. Tamizh land has been so far giving, giving and giving…..even then people who use our language do not treat us in a good manner. They are making mockery of poverty of a tamizhian. Those who are commenting about poverty and torture them are not HUMANS. Instead of removing poverty they are enjoying snatching the money of tamizhians.
Learn more and more langauges and try to go on path of progress. We have talent and we are all honest and hard working that would lead us to popularity.
HI
MISS M
I HAVE BEEN READING YOU MAILS AND I AM PROUD TO BE LEARNING ABOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON TAMIL PEOPLE.
I AM A SOUTH AFRICAN BORN PERSON OF TAMIL ORIGIN.
WE HERE HAVE THROUGH THE YEARS LOST MOST OF OUR CULTURE,BUT WE HADE NO CHOICE,IT WAS FORCED ON TO US . YOU GUYS IN INDIA FIGHT TO KEEP YOU CULTURE,BE PROUD OF WHO WE ARE……
I never thought i would be one day on this blog to pour my emotions and opinions. After coming here only, i came to know about the rich culture of tamizh and its connection with other countries and the gentlemen from foreign countries who devoted their life in learning tamizh they are so many…and i also believe “honesty” and “good character” leads you to a destination where you identify the secrets of this mystical world..I am also happy to explore the lady so chaste “kanyakumari” because she is the one who invited me here i guess alongwith Sivan(fire)
should she believe that you are really “proud” of her? i have seen colours.
Dear Friends,
Sons,Daughters,grandsons and Grand Daughters of Tamil nadu Politicians are learning ten to fifteen Languages.But Poor people
like us know only Tamil because it is our mother tongue.we need Hindi in government schools then only we can able to search any jobs in North India without any fear.Even in Gulf countries we have to speak in Hindi because North Indians,Pakistanis and Bangladeshis works there.we should try to be like the great Tamil Poet Mahakavi Bharathiar who knows many Indian languages other than Tamil.Rich people who studies in cbse and matriculation schools has the opportunity to speak and write Hindi and English Fluently.But poor people like us not able to speak either Hindi or English.
Germans speak only german, French speak only french. hence they are at the top of the world. we speak many languages and become workers for ever.
why do we idiots have to go behind some one. dont we have a language, culture for us.
Ultimate tragedy of mankind is not due to brutality of few, but the silence of many.
well said!!!!
Dear Ranjit,
Politicians of not only tamizh nadu but the whole india have “sufficient money” for the next 5 generations atleast. There is no need for their children to learn foreign languages. They learn them for knowledge and for communicating and some for “hobby”. But a poor tamizhian should learn other langauges for “survival”.
I have explained the difference between the rich and the poor. Always try to apply your brain on the path full of purity and bright future. Do not immerse into hindu rituals and expect God for blessings. Without hardwork nothing can be done. God created us , His duty is OVER. We should only search for “light”. If we go and sit in the temple and pray and again sit idle…what would happen? nothing.
Vallavanukku pullum ayutham.
Even a grass becomes a weapon for a person full of talent.
We should all try to be united and utilise the talent.
Dear all,
We have in schools of tamizh nadu, the hindi as second language. It is optional. If any one have not taken hindi as a second language and if they want to learn the language then please visit the given below site for informations. Please search for the latest information about the Central Hindi Directorate in delhi.
http://indiaedunews.net/announcement/show.asp?aid=1048
Applications may be sent to:
The Deputy Director,
Department of Correspondence Course,
Central Hindi Directorate,
West Block – 7, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110 066
Central Hindi Directorate Phone Number : (11) 26178454 26105526
This above website has been given by me for those poor tamizhians who work in gulf countries to communicate better in hindi and survive. I hope they shall all be faithful and dedicated to their mother tongue tamizh forever….The workers who are in need of hindi…what to do? they are helpless and supportless…they are in need of money and comfort to make their family members happy…for marriage, for medical, for entertainment they need money….sad indeed!!!!…they should all be happy.
Dear all,
Today, because of heavy rain all the temple towers in tamizh nadu are taking BATH. We should thank NATURE for this kind attitude.
Dear Satish,
I dont feel bad about writing the word which the north indians use to humiliate south indians. They should only feel shameful about using such terms for people from neighbouring states. I dont know the origin of such terms….why did they use?…Even the people who reside in tamizh nadu do not show their loyalty to the land then who would respect. All started because of Late Rajaji when he wanted to impose hindi in tamizh land. Always tamizhian had been suffering because of brahamanism in tamizh land, so Thanthai Periyar thought that it would increase the “upper caste arrogance” in the state again and he thought that it was a tactic to abolish the glory of tamizh. Thats why tamizhians wanted to keep the antiquity of the tamiz literature and culture. There was a protest. But hindi is not a difficult language. I learnt it only when i was 24 years old. Though i am not good in hindi grammer but i can write, read and speak the language very well but slightly with tamil accent. Its all about observation. If you have interest then you can learn everything good in nature.
If some one is talking against tamizhian then its because of rumour that they hate the language hindi. Its not the fact. Its about “Self-respect”. If a german or a russian wants to protect their language then we also do the same. After all tamizh is our “mother” with a history full of glory and honest people.
“Tamizhukkum Amudendru per”
(P.Susheela sang this song)
The another name of Tamizh is nector”
My father had good friends also from the brahmin community and they were all athiest. Because of them only my father came to know a lot of supersticious belief in the society. Infact, i used to sing in “Navaraathri Golus” ..they only used to invite me to sing when i was young….that time i did not know about casteism and other rituals of exploitative nature. Only when i use my brain and connect things i have so many questions. Is there a need for a statue at all? When there is no water in chennai they are using litres and litres of water to clean the statue and for “kumbabhisheka,” cleaning the temple tower. Even after following all rituals very religiciously (ammi paaartu …arundhati paarthu) divorce cases are increasing. It shows the society is changing…So many dowry deaths are occuring then why dont the government abolish these customs. Parents of daughters know what to give and if they have the capacity to give they would continue giving money and valuables to their daughter. They are well wishers only. Why this “dowry” system is here to pressurise the parents? Most of the guys are using this “varadakshina” to exploit so selfishly. All the people are not wealthy.
Hindi is a “business language”….it was formed mixing sanskrit and urdu words. Because of aryan invasion and later on muslim dynasty in northern parts of india…the language hindi came into existance. Its full of 70% urdu words.
They talk about the antiquity of sanskrit. When tamizh is a spoken language why sanksrit could not be a spoken language. Because, the answer is “it does not have the deep root” but tamizh has a very very strong root it is holding the ancient glory. Thats why we keep on holding it even now. When a dead language wants to get up….why people talk ill about the living language “TAMIZH”. It should not die. Somewhere it should survive….it deserves a lot….
Tamizh land has so far given life to so many people but they do not want to praise the glory because all of them are selfish people and they want to exploit the tamizh and the people. They are sinners.
Idathai kuduthaaal madathaiye pidunginaaraaam.
means
The space was given for a stay…but they snatched the whole space for them.
In hindi “Chori upar se seena jori”….I think it explain what i have written above. ]
By allowing them “in” we are loosing and we are trying to get up…..
Hindi is not a difficult language. But the current Tamil script consists of 12 vowels, 18 consonants and one special character, the āytam. The vowels and consonants combine to form 216 compound characters, giving a total of 247 characters. So, it is advisable to teach the tamizh and then hindi. Because anyone can anytime learn the hindi very easily.
Dear Miss M,
IF You write like this other language speaking people will hate
Tamils.There are some good people in Brahman community also.you must
also know that Tamil people are suffering in north India when they go there f
or any business or personal visits because there is no Hindi in
tamilnadu.Nothing will happen to Tamil if Hindi is introduced in schools as
second language or third language.Hindi is spoken in many parts of the
country that is why it is chosen as national language.we Tamils are gundu
sattila gudhirai vottarom.
Dear Ramesh,
I am also staying in Delhi ,without knowing hindi for last 2 years but I didnt find it is hindering my progress.Also,I dont wont to learn hindi.Still,I can show u ,numerous Tamizh people in north are excelling with flying colors(Katravarukku chenra idamelaam sirrappu..!).Proper planning is important for business people , studying hindi cant make u speak hindi..!Unless otherwiseit is spoken..u cant get with any language.So,If u want 2 learn hindi or find a job in northern land,go there n stay for 6 months ,u will get that language.No language is difficult ,if u hav interest and involvement.These are the words of person with poor level of confidence stating that “They require hindi to be introduced as second language for further career growth”.Secondly,u r not going to create any hindi literature r hindi draftings for career r business pursuit (as like english)?.For learning any language to converse,it will hardly takes 6-12 months based on ur curiosity.Thirdly,hindi has not yet received national language status,hindi is just a national official language like other indian language.So,all Tamizhians dont be foolish or ignorant and finally conclude by introducing hindi into tamizh land and destry our identity.
Hindi and western (french,german)and eastern(japanese & chinese) languages could be introduced as optional subjects in Govt schools and colleges of Tamizhnadu, not a compulsary subject or imposition.
Always try to learn a languages which is moving harmonious with science and technology(if required) or translate it to tamizh for deep understanding.
Also,TAMIZH inhabitans should build entrepreneurial spirit in global prespective.so that, we wil not rest as slaves or knowledge workers any more.They should build a leadership quality and enforce new technology to the world,so that ,we can become more autonomous like japanese and germans,french in terms of language.Promote and kindle to learn and think in mother tongue ,so that technolgy may improve henceforth.
Dont think to emerge as job seeker ,change ur attitude,try to become a job giver.so that world may stand behind us.Go to north or any part of world and start a business.so that world may get to know about us.
Dear Abdul Sir,
What you have written is perfect. If you go to any part of india, u can pick up the language in 6 months time. Its true. There is a need for observation. Tamizhian has the capacity to learn anything good in nature. He can do wonders if he go on searching for new knowledge. He should not sit idle in tamizhland and die. He was under suppression for years. I dont know why he was not using his brain so far. What made him hold the religion and the rituals very foolishly. OK….now the doors are open for him.
If a south indian wants to know how to write hindi and read then he can go for correspondance courses offered by the central hindi directorate in delhi. I have seen some episodes of DIL DIL MANADIL in kalaingar TV some years before, and i could not believe my eyes about seeing the adventurous spirit of tamizhians. All were fantastic showing their talent and bravery. He has so much arts in him. He should utilise them in proper way and exhibit on proper platform to surprise this world.
No aryan shows arts of hardwork in nature. This is the truth. Dravidians have martial arts in their blood by nature. They have the art of yoga in his blood. He is capable of doing anything dangerous in nature also. Every human in india if he is talented then he can show …no partiality should be there. We tamizhians have welcomed all but this kind gesture of us should not be exploited. We can not deny the fact that we are exploited by so many so far.
i dont think the casteism in india would prevail after 100 years, because inter-caste marriages have increased. Even the daughter of my grand uncle married an american citizen, his father is american his mother is german. So, the blood would change…..no caste in future would remain….Because of “dowry” and torture, girls are choosing love marriage these days.
UNITY is the best policy satish…but you are adamant.
they only made us to dwell here in tamizhnadu, it is a difficult task to make the world understand why are we adamant still about tamizh, because it is our past that is holding still lots of truth. Exploitation. They can now learn all the languages. Do not stay here, get away all of you go and explore the universe.
Enough is enough. Tamizh is immortal!!!!!
i never said, just ride ur bike in ur city..why dont u people go to some other parts of india..rajasthanis are coming here, gujratis, punjabis, malayalis, telugus, biharis,..they are going to loot our tamizhnadu one day, we dont know hindi and we are not ready to explore their places and settle there, this is going to be a head ache for we the tamizhans. There is no space for me to park my moped. The city is crowded with biharis and maarwaris. HELL!!!! My neighbour maarwari is expecting free goods from the govt. of tamizhnadu, she is very happy to receive them.
Dear all,
Bursting diwali crackers would also increase the global warming and sometimes dangerous to use them in crowded areas. So, try to avoid spending money on crackers and if possible give some other employment to the poor people (children also) who are suffering while making these crackers full of chemicals in Sivakasi city. Tamizhnadu.
No one would come to help a tamzhian, so we should only make efforts to help poor people here. Create more employment for our people in tamizh nadu itself so that they dont have to face humiliation in any other part of this country called India. We had enough so far.
nothing to say.
bye.
Dear Siva and all,
Like siva i also had the same questions in my mind. I have been thinking these matters so many times. The skin colour has been the main reason for all. By nature a dravidian was full of bravery and adventurous and talented and he knew all sorts of skills to face the nature. Had all the dravidians oppose the aryans in the beginning our pure culture would have been intact. But, since aryans knew that only by brainwashing these dravidians they could rule and dominate so, they started introducing various customs by the name of “Gods”.
They created so many gods also and with it so many festivals and rituals to mint money.
The name of God was used only to suppress the people. The name of God was used to torture innocent girls and women. The Casteism was introduced to split the dravidians. Skin colour was shown again and again and comparison was shown only to create “Inferiority complex” among dravidians. Compete brainwash.
After learning tamizh to some extent they began to create a language called “sanskrit” and they wrote about “casteism” to pressurise the people. They made the dravidians to believe that their vedic culture was connected with Gods and they created the illusion among people that they had been sent by God himself on earth and they had every right to implement rules and regulations.
Since kings were ruling tamizh land, they by capturing the post of ADVISORS to kings to torture the people. Since they told that they are in the place of brain of a human, ie., brahmin means “Brain” and Shudra means the “feet”. So, they made the kings to believe that whatever they would say it would be the correct custom and advise for the masses. So they began to torture the people below poverty line and people with darker skin. They made them all their “servants”. This has been the reason why a north indian today is against the colour “black”.
We also have the news that during british rule also brahmins were enjoying because of Anne Besant. So, by occupying the post of powerful nature they use their cunning tactics to suppress the people.
The tamizh kings could not understand the very nature of aryans thats why there were continuous wars between them. They had been incited by these aryans and they lost their wealth and health because of them. By introducing “ANTHAPURAM” (place of entertainment) in the kings palace, they gradually introduced prostitution also. They used the women to lure the kings and hatched so many plots.
We are indians we believe because of our nature of tolerating. When a north indian is attacked in Australia, the indian govt, would raise its voice and would send warning message to australia if the name of the chief minister Shiela Dikshit was pronounced wrongly or the Governor of australia an north indian if he became a victim of mockery. BUT, if tamizhians are attacked in sri lanka the indian govt. would shut its mouth tightly and no one would send warning message or no indian of this india would protest. understood!!!!!
The north indians do not know who is a telungu guy, kannadiga and keralite guy. So the north indians generally are calling a south indian by the name “madrasi sala”. This “saala” is nothing but in hindi “brother-in-law” only. Just like we use the word “machaan” (brother-in-law) they also use. But since they want to show their anger against their brother-in-law…this has become a habit for showing their hatredness against all the people. They even say on seeing a pandit (brahmin) “pandit saala”…..”saale bihari”…the guy belongs to state of bihar. In my office a punjabi guy would use this word for even a keyboard, CPU or a coffee cup to show his anger. Very funny….i made him stop using that word “saala” for everything. But, even after hearing all these words, we have not found any word for north indians so far….it only shows that we people are following good culture.
A day would come in future, all our neighbour state people would come forward to help us. We would all be together to make a new future full of brightness. We have been so far helping a telungu. kannadiga and keralite to show his or her talent and become famous and earn money in the entertainment field. If all south indians come together to show their talent and hardwork i am sure we can all be happy.
Siva, i have seen dravidians making the pillars of a temple sitting and sweating for a meagre amount. In those days also their energy and time were utilised by the aryans in a cunning manner, even then they had been atrocities against the dravidians. They wont have “salvation” (moksha) ….motcham in tamizh.
There was a tsunami in indonesia yesterday….and it is a warning for all the people of this world that the nature is changing day by day. We should stop immediately “GLOBAL WARMING’ to protect our earth.
I go to buy crackers just for giving life to the children who are making crackers for three time meal. I dont celebtrate these aryans made festivals. I only celebrate “PONGAL” (farmers festival).
bye
who is going to make tamiznadu the “state of gardens”? atleast i would like chennai to be a “garden city”.
so, diwali is also reason for global warming. Stop buying crackers :)