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Taken from net about tamizh and its originality.
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Rev. Dr.G.U.Pope says: “Saiva Siddhanta philosophy is the choicest product of the Dravidian intellect. The Saiva Siddhanta system is the most elaborate, influential and undoubtedly the most intrinsically valuable of all the religions of India. It is a peculiarly South Indian and Tamil religion. Saivism is the old prehistoric religion of South India, essentially existing from pre-Aryan times and holds sway over the hearts of the Tamil people”
The Tamil cultural tradition is independent, not derived, not imitative; it is pre-Sanskritic, and from this point of view Tamil alone stands apart when compared with all other major languages and literatures of India. There exist in India only two great specific and independent classical and historically attested cultures – the Sanskritic culture and the Tamil culture. Tamil literature is the only Indian literature which is both classical and modern; while it shares antiquity with much of Sanskrit literature and is as classical, in the best sense of the word, as e.g. the ancient Greek poetry, it continues to be vigorously living modern writing of our days. ‘Tamil, one of the two classical languages of India, is the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past.’…” The philosophical system of Saiva Sidhdhantha, a system, which may be ranked among the most perfect and cleverest systems of human thought–Prof. Dr. Kamil Vaclav Zvelebil
September 17, 1927 – January 17, 2009
Picture source: http://www.tamilnation.org
Saiva Siddhanta is beyond the apex of pyramidal structure of all religions that rises majestically from a broad base. Its base is Polytheism; its lower half is Monotheism; its upper half is Metatheism; Siva Siddhanta is Supratheism or Camayātītam (Samayatitam = சமயாதீதம் = The Supreme Being, as transcending all religions. Tamil Lexicon). It does not need any support; it has no beginning, no middle, no end and no name. Supratheism is a word coined by me to illustrate its position compared to other pyramidal religions; in fact, it is not a religion; it is the Universal Truth. Man can ascend this pyramid to a comfortable or competent level. When he goes beyond the pyramid, there are no icons, Mantra, Tantra, Yantra or disputations between religions. Metatheism is immersion in and absorption of the emanating essence of unbranded Being (Generic God) without regard to any particular religion. The generic Being may be worshipped as an icon or a word. The mental and spiritual eyes, ears and perceptions of the worshipper are his organons. Drawing the hidden essence and meaning, registering all visual, auditory and extrasensory vibrations emanating from icons, formulating them in words and phrases and laying down new paths are the essence of inspired religious prose and poetry of Metatheism. Some revealed Truths are beyond words. The object of all these constructs is to attain Moksa. (Author Krishnaraj’s view).
URNS DISCOVERED (thaazhi in tamizh)
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Tirunelveli is an ancient city, as evidenced by the findings of archaeological excavations which have been going on since 1840s, in the outskirts of the city in Adichanallur (now under Tuticorin district). At this site, the archaeologists have unearthed and urn which could date back to 500 B.C, containing a complete human skeleton and clay vessels with some rudimentary Tamil Brahmi script inscribed on them. Other ancient urns in which the elderly were buried have also been found in the same district. Along with skeletal finds, husks, grains of rice, charred rice and celts have also been found.More recent excavations at this site has led to the discovery of a habitation site of the Iron Age people. Archaeologists opine that it is about 3000–3800 years old, from the Neolithic period. This has assured us that Tirunelveli has been an abode for human habitation for 3000 years or more. Now, Adhichanallur has been announced as an archaeological site for further excavation and studies.
The known history says that Tirunelveli had been under the prominence of the Pandya kings, serving as their secondary capital while Madurai remained its primary capital.
Dear abdul thambi,
Very good answer from you. We are emotional about our mother language tamizh. This is what i meant to say.
Sadly. “EMOTIONS ARE EXPLOITED” in the name of unnatural Gods.
Thanks for accepting the facts wholeheartedly…i like that….i have seen muslims very attached to their religion and belief and they are adamant about their faith…do you think religion only make all kinds of violence? …Good spirit is needed …once again thanks a lot…very rare indeed!!!!
Tamil people lived during ancient times are classified according to the kingdom they lived .They are classified as Adhiyar,Arular,cheral,cholar,pandiyar etc.They are not divided by any caste,religion .But the Brahmans divided the people in the name of caste by the type of work they had done.I was proud to be born as Tamil because the caste name is not included in Tamil names.But the case is different for north Indians where all the people have included their caste name with the their names.It will be embarrassing for the lower caste people because they will be easily identified by their name.Tamil people must thank thanthai periyar and anna durai for removing the caste name from Tamil names.
Dear periyar mainthane,
Siddha books explained a mental diseases in a names of Amirtha choodu, Piramai, Pitham, Manapramai, Payithiyam, Vattu, Very Noi as good as Marul noi.
The disease called ‘PIRAMAI’ can be called in english as ILLUSION. Speechless state of a person.
Here the word PIRAMAI has been taken by the aryans and they have created among the people the illusion BRAHMAM. So, as long as people under their created illusion, NOTHING CAN BE DONE.
Extra intelligence is needed to come out this circle.
The doctrines by the aryans through their selfish sanskrit (the sanskrit the original word itself has taken from tamizh language later on gone through foreign tongues and spelt as “sanskrit”) has so far mixed the POISON in our divine and peaceful culture. It has so far created tension, crime and sin that has no salvation at all.
I think we tamizhians in the south understood the very nature of the selfish aryans (good aryans….not a myth) than others of india. As the society changes, the old fashion changes, the new one would not ever come to know the deepest meaning. NO ONE CARES ACTUALLY. Those who cares only take notice of everything and may reform the society. They SHOULD……
Dear periyar mainthane,
Thanthai Periyar had changed one or two letters, the style of writing not the whole letters. It was because of the domination of the brahmins and their vadamozhi sorkal (letters came from north or say… from their tongue) The spoken tamizh was the same. It was not changed. For example the letter “Lai”. Instead of keeping the upper font like “the trunk” of the elephant, because the worship of an elephant god was becoming famous i suppose. Get the details if u can.
Casteism is still prevalent in india and we should all indians feel shameful about this.
dear miss m,
i know what you have said.because there is no time for me i was not able to explain clearly.
LACK OF TIME makes us all dwell in the dark world. We should come to the world full of BRIGHTNESS.
do your duty first…we are in need of money for survival….language tamizh can wait and watch!!!!!….money yes money…am thinking about the face of bugs bunny!!!..do you know that my name has mani?
AKARA MUTHALA EZHUTTHELLAAM AADI PAKAVAN MUDATREY ULAHU. (THIRUKURAL by Sage.Thiruvalluvar)
This verse means that of all the letters “Ah: is the first letter and serves as the root /base for all other letters. Like that this whole universe has emerged from the Lord Almighty.
“Akaram” in tamizh means different letters of tamizh language, related to study.
In the tamizh dictionary on the net it is
Akaram – a letter A
Sp, the english word “Academic” has the root word in tamizh.
Academic means connected with education.
Academies…………the school or college where special training is given.
Dear all,
Another name of Mariamman (rain goddess) is KAATERI. Veeramamunivar in his poem of 1100 stanzas, “Kittêri ammalle saritiram” he sings the praises of the martyr St. Quiteria (not St. Catherine, as some writers have mistakenly asserted). I suppose, the ancient belief of worshipping kaateri amman or maariamman would cure the diesease of all water related. St.Queiteria is also worshipped in the same way as some one has written that the scars on her face faded away by worshipping St.Quiteria.
Taken from net now.
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“Mari” was considered as a causative force for smallpox, chicken pox, mumps and measles (Maari in Tamil means rain. Since the rainfall cooled the otherwise hot area and protected people from summer sicknesses like viral infections, people started worshipping the rain goddess as Maari Amman)
So, kaateri amman (the ferocious look) and St.quiteria has relation with each other.
the “amman” worship in tamizhnadu would put light to the topic the “oldest language”. Because, no other state in india has the serious worship of amman but only in tamizh nadu. Hundreds of names given to this goddess would clear the doubt and explain the relation between names of this world given to humans. The craziest worship of “amman” in tamizhnadu alone can lead and end the topic “the oldest living language”. There is no need to work hard just make the list of names of amman in tamizhnadu. The fastest and easiest way to reach the destination without hardships. Few examples of names given below,
isaki amman
sooli amman
veperi amman
muthu maari amman
The names given to Gods in india would prove that it was once upon a time a dravidan country and how it has been faced drastic changes later on.
Velaankanni Amman and “Valentine” day has relation with each other also.
I am also researching the word “ATOM BOMB” the word “atom” is from “aathi antham”……at+om
in tamizh we say for “atom” the pure tamil word is “aNu” means the “karu” the “womb”. Karu…the core….the centre of any object.
ok…one another word in greek is “anthrop”….
in tamizh we say “aathiroopam”….the “primitive form”.
so, the word in english “anthropology” or the word “anthrop” have the root in tamizh.
we have the word “anth” in hindi means “to end” “to destroy”
“paap ka anth” in hindi means the “destruction of sin”.
So we have the word “antham” (end) in hindi as “anth”
LET ME SHARE FEW WORD FOR YOUR REFERENCE
Tamil English
KOLL KILL
Vanjam vengence
Katumaram Katmaron
Mankaai Mango
AARU ANJU Orange
( 6+5 sulai’s…..If you break the orange you 5 pieces in one side of your hand and 6 pieces in other hand, so how much you get 6+5 ) English people named after the fruit colour as one of the hue in thier list with same tamiz word.
the explanation of the fruit “orange” is very much interesting…yes it has the two nos…6+5…..aaru is 6 and anju in tamizh is 5……and they named as “orange” for this fruit and also for colour….one of my favorite colours….knowledge leads to perfection…
aathi in tamizh means the “beginning” and “antham” means “the end”…so “aathi antham illathathu” means “the one which does not have the beginning and end as well…..”aathi manithan” in tamizh means the “primitive man”.
“aathi antham illathathu” this tamizh sentence indirectly tells us the shape of circle with has no beginning and end as well. No need to tell that they had idea about the shape of this earth earlier itself. So, the ancient tamizh literature has been the inspiration for so many but they dont accept wholeheartedly.
Dear all,
I am researching the word “ADAM” it must have come from “ADHI”(AATHI) “ANDAM” (may be aatham). The words “Thee” and “tham” the exact meaning is needed.
ok..now the stories of the Bible and the myths of ancient Greece and Rome have contributed mcuh to western culture. The word ‘money’ for example is derived ultimately from the name of a Roman Goddess, JUNO MONETA, whose temple was used as a mint in ancient Rome.
As i said earlier the civilisation has started near water, the “need” for stomach after air and heat.
Possibilities.
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JUNO MONETA…….KUMARI ….”KUMA”….’MARI” …
the word JUNO must be “KUMO”. Since the letter “J” has been added it is spelt as JUNO……
MONETA……….in tamizh if we say MAZHAI+THAA means give rain.
MAZHAI+ NEER = RAIN+WATER.
MAZHAI NEER THA……GIVE RAIN WATER.
It seems, while worshipping the river kumari ….mari is infact water and they requested to Goddess to give them rain water.
JUNO MONETA……give us…oh rain Goddess give us rain water.
“KUMARI MAZHAI NEER THA.
“JUNO MONETA” has very close relation with what i have written above. As we have seen the babylonians had the habit of saying “mina (meen…fish) as “nina”…they have replaced the first letter “m” here. similarly the romans have added “n” removing “m”.
So, they have all it seems come from the full form “KUMARI”. The word ‘MANITHAN” in tamizh means an “individual” but i think it is MAZHAI+THA…….RAIN+GIVE. The tamizh word “manithan” and roman “moneta” has relation.
c u all
Manithan here mani means mazhai neer, the rain water and “THAN” means “coolness” as we have the word for water in tamizh “thanneer”. So, mani+than would mean rainwater+coolness. So, we should now have the meaning of for the word manithan as “rain water so cool” instead of “man”.
periyar felt that people used religion only as a mask to deceive innocent people and therefore took it as one of his duties in life to warn people against superstitions and priests.But still priest like nithyananda,.kanchi sankarachariya are worshiped like god.It was very sad that musllim leaders had called jeyanderar saraswathi for solving the ayodhya dispute.when the whole world knows what jeyandrar has done to innocent people especially to women.
Dear periyar mainthane,
I read the news also and have seen the photo too in news paper.
Yes, you are right. 60% tamilzhians are following dead bodies almost dead because they dont have sympathy for the poor people who are kept in darkness in hindu temples. The worship of nature has been changed and the brain of the people are kept in the rooms full of utter darkeness.
you are very polite and kind hearted with them all but not with me…am very very sensitive…be careful about words you use when you are angry….dont explore my past.
Aruire in tamizh means the “dearest”.
Given below is one of Babylonian Gods named “ARURU”
Aruru was one of the names of the “lady of the gods”, and aided Marduk to make the seed of mankind. At first she was “Aruru, lady of the gods of Sippar of Aruru”, in the time of the dynasty of Hammurabi called Ya’ruru. Another was “Nin-hur-saga, lady of the gods of Kes”. Mama and Mami are other names of “the lady of the gods”, equated with the creatress of the seed of mankind, Aruru, probably so called as the “mother” of all things. Another name of this goddess is Ama, “mother”. The Hebrew “Am ha Eretz” can be read as “Mother Earth.
In tamizh we have “Meena” the one of the names of parvati, wife of Eesan (aasaan, the teacher or the MASTER). For fish we say “MEEN”. The excavation in indus shows there were symbols of fish. Just find out connection between these two cultures. Tamizhans and babylonians.
Goddess “Nina”
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From the name Nin, Ishtar is also Nina. Identified with Aruru, the goddess who helped Marduk to create mankind, Ishtar was also regarded as the mother of all, and in the Babylonian story of the Flood, she is made to say that she had begotten man, but like “the sons of the fishes”, he filled the sea. Nina, as another form of Ishtar, was a goddess of creation, typified in the teeming life of the ocean, and her name is written with a character standing for a house or receptacle, with the sign for “fish” within. Her earliest seat was the city of Nina in southern Babylonia, from which place, in all probability, colonists went northwards, and founded another shrine at Nineveh in Assyria, which became the great centre of her worship, and was called Ninaa or Ninua after her. As their tutelary goddess, the fishermen in the neighbourhood of the Babylonian Nina and Lagas were accustomed to make to her, as well as to Innanna or Ishtar, large offerings of fish.
It is clear that all the religions has the origin near water.
c you all
The symbol of “fish” that is “meenamma” or “meenaachi” still we worship this “amman” it has been the symbol for Babylonians also, they have worshipping also the fish, the one who ruled the water. Ishtar the God of Babylonian is no one but Eesan only. I have found relation between the sumerian God “ENKI” and Tamizhan God Isaki Amman…ISAKI…here ISA is Sivan and “Ki” given for the female form, the “oneness” of the two Gods ISA+KI. Just like We say “thevaki, (devaki) Maathanki etc. the name given for girls in tamizhnadu. So, MEENA and EESAN are the two names so ancient still used.
Interesting news taken from net.
The history of veshti (lungi)
Manuscripts and other evidences point out the origin of the lungi in the present day Tamil Nadu. The lungi was earlier known as ‘Veshti’, a white colored garment.
Historical evidences point out that the Muslin cloth of Veshti was exported to Babylonia from Tamil Nadu. Writings in Babylonian archaeological articles specify the word ‘Sindu’, which in Tamil means ‘garment’. A sect of fishermen in Tamil Nadu called ‘Baradavargal’ exported lungis to East Africa, Egypt, and Mesopotamian regions. With the passage of time, the white lungi became a more refined and colorful garment with flowers and other designs printed on it. Gradually, stripes, checks in various blends of fabrics, cotton being the most popular, were made available in the market.
According to Thanthai periyar if you remove the Sanskrit words from Kannada,Telugu and Malayalam all these languages sounds same like Tamil.Todays modern Tamil is because of periyar.periyar has made some corrections in old Tamil for the people to write and speak in easiest way.
But, tamzh is intact in “full form”..this is the most important point.
Dear all,
All the passages we have written and our hard work would get vanished away in some more days. Some one else would come to struggle i hope so.
TEARS
This givenbelow website is for Abdul thambi.
About Thiru. Devaneya Pavanar and his service to Tamizh language.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devaneya_Pavanar
Dear all,
I have some latin words, the pronunciation and the relation they have with tamizh words.
Root…………………latin……….meaning…………………..tamizh words
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mater,matr…..mater,matris….mother………..mariaatha (water goddess)
am, amat…..amo, amatum……..love……………………..amudam
bel, belli……..bellum………………war………………………vellum (victory)
corp,corpor…corpus……………..body……………………..kayam (body)
cur, curs…….curro……………….run,go……………………kadathal (cross)
flect,flex……..flecto………………..bend…………………….valainthu (bend)
gen,geni…….geno………………..give birth to……………eendru (delivery)
gyn————gune……………….woman…………………….peN (woman)
man,mani……manus…………….hand…………………manithan (individual)
nom,nomen….nomen……………name…………………naamam (name)
……….nominis……………….Thiru ‘namam’
pend, pens….pendo…………….pay…………………….paNam, parisu
pensum weigh (money, gift)
(relation with coins)
phil, philo……philos………………loving……………….iLLRaram (home,family)
“iLL”
vir………………..vir………………..man, male…………..Veeran (man)
the one who won the war.
volt, volut……..volvo,volutum….roll, turn…………….uruLum (rolling)
(swirl)
tact…………….tactum………………touch……………….thatuvathu (touch)
(thatelluzhthu)
(typewriter)
sid, sede……..sedeo………………sit, settle…………..sittham, sinthanai
be situated…………..(think,meditation)
quir……………..quaesitum………seek, ask…………….keLvi
keLvi khyanam
(attain wisdom by questioning)
port…………porto, portatum…. carry……………….poRu ( bear it)
PoRumai (patience)
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I dont have time now……i have so many words….c you all.
The aryans sole aim was to change the worship of “Sivan” they could only succeed in Andhrapradesh by introducing “Vishnu”.
If you just examine this name Vishnu….it is Ishnu…isaa+nu….The sound “sh” was added. The aryans never wanted a Dravidan God in india, they always wanted to change the whole faith. OK.
Now, the faith is only dragging the people to all the temples, the name is and the same person is worshipped with different names. As i said i have not explored the God “SIVAN” so far.
Because the aryans could not make the people worship all over india, they have settled with “LOCAL GODS” like Rama, Krishna and Iyyappa. so, they have stopped their efforts after seeing the popularity for these famous personalities (dont know the history) and started minting money. The sole aim it seems to keep the people in darkness and grab their wealth….
i am not shocked to know the fact that there was no person called “sivan” in reality, because i was not attached to Gods and had always confusion about so many Gods. I once asked my school mate who was “Eesan”? She replied he was “sivan”. No wonder why he was always an “illusion” i think the watery shadow of sivan on the wall made me always curious and am surprised it only brought me here…so i think i should give importance to my “destiny”. I believe still God has no form.
Uruvam in tamizh means “FORM”. Aruvam in tamizh means “FORMLESS”..How can we cross and reach him?????
unanswerable question.
There is no need to explore the god Sivan, because it will burn you, it is only “fire” but if you go near banyan tree it wont burn you it will only give you cool shade :) both are red coloured in ancient time.
Dear all,
Ever -green melodious songs of M.S.SUBBULAKSHMI. My one of favorite singers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpUxqR2t38
Thank you.
miss m
im really proud of u and mr.abdul .dont care about wat these guys say,we know that tamizh is the oldest language in the world or even universe who knows. can those guys who argue can tell any literature or book which can be considered as good as THIRUKURAL. THIRUKURAL alone is more than enough for us to prove that tamizh is the oldest and greatest language.I have studied in my school days (mozhi valthu) in which they say that tamizh language is the language of gods(theiva mozhi).we tamizilians have well developed knoweledge in ancient time itself, KALLANAI which was builted by KARIKALAN a grest chozla king about 2000 years ago, which is still in use and in good condition can u tell any such dams which is 2000 years old and still in use .like wise there are like wise i can tell one by one but it would take me to infinity .one day or other the world will come to know the hidden mysteries and great culture of tamizh, that day is not too far..!!!
vaalga tamizh , vaalga vaiyagam..!!!
Dear Shyam,
Thanks a lot for your comments. Unless hardwork nothing can be achieved. I dont have much time to spend to establish the facts. But i can surely say that all the worship started from NATURE. Mainly the FIRE has been the main energy thats why we always associate Sivan with Fire. Various names of him say that he taught the art of dance. If you observe “burning fire” or “flame” or even a “candle” while burning you can get so many clues. When air blows the fire becomes much more active and it gives you different kinds of shapes.
The various kinds of movements of hands and legs i suppose have come from inspiration given by fire. I come from the family of scientists and my uncle was invited to create “rolling gas” for a film shoot in the early 60s. The gas was coming step by step and colour was added to it.It would give you an impression like water fall. It was a famous hindi film.
My uncle had a letter written by ALBERT EINSTEIN with him and in return he also wrote letters to him…. I dont know about his life full of science. He was very much obsessive about his work and he would not allow anyone to touch even his pen. One another uncle was invited by the American Government in early 60s because he was a genious. He was reluctant and then later on he was made to get out of India and he was in america but he could not survive for long he died due to cardiac arrest. Had he been an unmarried person he would have achieved a lot. I think most of scientists could not achieve a lot dealing personal affairs also.
I dont want to give informations now. Thanks a lot for encouraging us Mr.Shyam.
Dear Shyam,
Since you have mentioned Karikaalan and his KallanaNai dam, i am now remembering my late uncle who was connected with water and dam. He was a scientist and achieved a lot in india and his blood is now in canada.
nothing to say.
miss m
there is no need for saying thanks and all, i only did my duty.Its the duty of every tamilian. continue your good work we are always there to support you and mr.abdul
and we are proud of both of u i must say thanks to both of u for the service u have given to our language.you are from a family which has rich heritage and im proud for talking with you mam.continue your work we are there for you.
Dear Shyam,
The word “mam” has in it “amudam”(love). All who supported here for tamizh have done a good job. Every language has its own charm and glory. Their tonal expressions are different and expressive. The only difference in india about tamizh is that it has the FULL FORM as well as not a single so many words to express a thing from the beginning itself. They are used by our neighbours.
I have found some words of telungu with me they have almost reduced the words to form a sentence. And in kannada also i found similarities with tamizh, they have either removed the letter in the beginning or at the end…. and the very nearest and the very thickest relation we have …is with malayalam. Sadly, sanskrit had been mixed in their language and it shows the domination only.
For example, ( u can get the clear picture of sanskrit domination for easy pronounciation)
Tamizh………………………Telungu
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Annan………………………..anna
akkaa…………………………akka
thambi…………………………thammudu
thangai………………………..thamki
kannipen……………………..kanyaka
thalai…………………………..thala
mooLai………………………..moola
ottakam………………………..ontte
kaakai…………………………..kaaki
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avarkal enge ponaarkal?…vaaru ekkada ki poyiri?
paal vilai enna?………………palu vele emi?
nee velai seyvaaya?……….neevu panee seykalava?
sathamagap pesu…………..katikaa maatlaadu.
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Dear shyam, my father himself was an intellectual person who was known for his writing talent. His elder brothers both and his younger brothers had also achieved a lot. My father used to appreciate all the people of all religions. He had bible with him in his briefcase i found it after his death very strangely though, he was crazy about Nagoor Hanifa’s songs, qawwali music and also western and carnatic music. From michael jackson to Elvis presley he used to listen all kinds of music. His second brother was a “man of words” means he was a “English Dictionary” himself. He knew the meaning of all words and explantions. He was a magic. Sadly, we dont have them today.
I feel proud of all of you.
c you all tomorrow.
Dear Shyam,
Thanks a crore for ur kind appreciation and generous motivation.Just northerners are trying to embalm or preserve the dead body(Sanskrit) which never serve the purpose of mankind.Tamizh seeks its own uniquiness and chastity which cant be challeneged by anyone..! Vaazha Tamizh..!
Dear Shyam,
Thanks a crore for ur kind appreciation and generous motivation.Just northerners are embalming or preserving the under developed infant(sanskrit) which is dead in the womb of mother Tamizh.Tamizh has is own uniqueness for all time which cant be challenged by any world languages about its antiquity ,heritage and richness…! vaazha Tanizh..!
Dear Shyam,
Thanks a crore for ur kind appreciation and generous motivation.Just northerners are embalming or preserving the under developed infant(sanskrit) which is dead in the womb of mother Tamizh.Tamizh has its own uniqueness for all time which cant be challenged by any world languages about its antiquity ,heritage and richness…! vaazha Tamizh..!
Dear abdul thambi,
Are we in science laboratory? Suddenly, i can see rows of glass bottles with dead infant bodies and strange creatures. I think all the beginning and the ending depends upon nature a lot. I think there was a severe earthquake in the indus valley thats what had changed a lot of things and another earthquake in the deepest ocean near tamizh land was also a reason for all the destruction.
Even after facing natural calamities and manual destruction, still we are here to debate and giving prooofs that only shows our spirit.
Though english and other languages have different ancestors to create their vocabulary. I think tamizhian culture had left a strong impression and spotless marks.
Thanks a lot all of you for taking sincere efforts.
miss m
im really astonished , how can u gather so much information every day.hope god guides you for ever and im very proud of your father and his brother we all miss them a lot ,but they are with us and they will be with us to help all of us.continue your good work.
vaazhga tamil , vaazhga vaiyagam..!
mr.abdul
yes i know that northerners are trying hide the truth,but we know that truth alone triumphs at the end. dont care about what they say we know what is the truth,just coming here and posting some flase and fake messages will not make it true and more over we are not dumbheads to believe it.we have solid proofs and facts about tamizh so dont worry brother we are here for u .
Thanks a lot shyam dear.
Dear Shyam
“AAAyiram Kaikal maraitaalum aathavan maraivathilai”.So,our mother tamizh has reached heights repute more than Himalayas which cant be hidden any more.
Dear Abdul thambi,
Your comment is like Tamizh is “ANDAM” and Sankskrit is “PINDAM” so the outer part of this globe like tamizh carries the pindam to the core. Without tamizh this pindam was not possible. Anyways, it leads me to another thought.
Thank you for your comments which is full of the theory of evolution, the gradual development of something from something else that came and was simpler.
it seems abdul thambi is very very emotional.
Ultimate tradegy of mankind is not brutality of few (Ariyans)but the silence of many(Dravidians)..!I never act emotionally ..then ,i might have kept away myself like other tamizh muslims by saying…” Arabic is the oldest language….”because Quran is revealed in Arabic.I m moving with rational facts ..that the reason ,I m supporting..sorry ..accepting the geniune facts of Tamizh..I hope ,i m acting wisely rather than faling prey to emotional sentiments..
yes thambi, truth it is!!!! Struggle is the another name for life…so we are struggling here. The world would never accept the hidden truth, but it is our duty to reveal the secrets of this great civilisation beyond imagination. Dont feel bad..we have done our duty for our mother Tamizh. She is happy with our work i hope so.
i dont understand you what you are in reality. But i would like you to lead a life without problems.
just like THIRUKURAL..THIRUQURAN is also preaching good morals to all the humanbeings, so i found here relation between tamizh and islamic thoughts, but sadly, no one accept it, because today is a modern world, we have changed a lot. We can not see the peaceful atmosphere which prevailed during ancient time.
The english word “ENCODE” itself has the tamizh word “eN” means the number.
encode means to put a message into a code (a secret writing system) or to change a message into a form a COMPUTER can read.
So, the tamizh word is used in this particular word “ENCODE”.
Kodu in tamizh means the line which is drawn. so the word “code” is also a tamizh word.
“DECODE” means to find out the meaning of sometthing which is written in a code.
“CIPHER” in english means “code”..or the number “zero”. For example if you say the police caught the foreign spy sending a wireless message in “cipher” means (a system of secret writing).
So, the tamzih words “EN” and “CODU” (code) are used in english language.
It is Stupidity to say that Tamil(Damn it not Tamzih) is the origin of some word and some part of it. In that sense every part of other languages can be said to be from another language.
Just a simple logic.
count numbers in Telugu Kannada tamil and malayalam
you will see that all the numbers sound similar.
All the languages were born out of sanskrit and it is also said that Telugu is the oldest language.
Digest this now :
Telugu is the only language in India which has all the words that end with the sound of Vowel. It is called the “Italian of the East”.
Dear arun,
It may be and is “italian of the east” but you should think about the origin of the language and its development. Indeed, telugu words have lots of similarties but more and more sanskrit tongue has entered into your language.
When you have written about “Italian” then i should tell you the fact “Veeramamunivar” was the first ever christian i suppose to have taken the tamizh words to “Rome”.
The history of tamizh is beyond “IMAGINATION”. We have so far given lots of proofs to establish the facts. All started from indus valley and excavations of tamizh letters and words prove the facts. So, there is need for us to prove now. Enough is enough!!!!!!
I will come up with relation between tamizh and latin words may be tomorrow.
c you.
Dear arun,
Just because you have sanskrit words in your language you are side by side humiliating the Dravidian languag, his hardwork, his efforts, his devotion to the nature, his capacity to control his MIND and yoga kalai (the art for good health), and bharathanatyam (the divine dance) and you are humiliating the dravidan super man Sivan (an illusion). He is a MYSTERY still. Are you a dravidan by birth?.
the only mistake of Saint Veeramamunivar was that he was not exposing the facts about the language tamizh to this world though he did a lot of marvellous literary works for tamizh. The only surprise to me atleast is that he devoted his valuable time spending in tamizhnadu. He is still a “wonder”. Person like him are very very RARE. We dont have complaints. Let the secret be the secret forever. We need peaceful atmosphere than glory for our tamizh.
i could understand the “mayhem” that prevailed when he was here. Aryans are to be blamed for whatever they have done to the nature concept. at the end, 5 elements are to be appreciated and keenly observed. let the science grow but we are helpless.
THE METAL “IRON” WAS USED IN SIDDHA MEDICAL PRACTICE BEFORE THE ARYANS INVADED INDIA.
Aryans who invaded india only to LOOT the treasure and SURVIVE and then later on they LEARNT everything.
This system of medicine developed within the Dravidian culture, which is of the “pre-vedic period”.
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The Neem tree was regarded as sacred in Mohenjo-daro Civilization. In the annals of the ancient Siddha System of Medicine, the first medicinal plant mentioned as well as found a place, in ancient Tamil literature is Margosa or Neem. This has been used by Tamils from time immemorial as a deterrent for smallpox and other infectious diseases and also considered to possess powers to ward off evil spirits. Perhaps they were aware of the germicidal action and the medicinal properties of the Margosa, Tirumular, the great siddha is said to have been in deep penance for several thousands of years before the Christian Era in eternal bliss under a sacred pipal tree.
According to Siddha medical science the universe consists of 5 elements. Earth, Water, Fire, Air and Ether which correspond to the five senses of the human body. Man consumes water and food, breathes the air and then maintains the heat in the body. He is alive because of the life force given by ether. The earth is the first element which gives fine shape to the body, including bones, tissues, muscles, skin, hair etc. Water is the second element representing blood, secretions of the glands, vital fluid etc. Fire the third element that gives emotion, vigour and vitality to the body. It also helps digestion, circulation and stimulation besides respiration and the nervous system. Above all other is the characteristic of man’s mental and spiritual faculties. A suitable proportion of these five elements in combination with each other produce a healthy person.
c you all.
ANDAM VATTAMAANATHU ENDRU KANDU PIDITHATHU TAMIZHANE.
THE ONE WHO FOUND THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH IS CIRCLE IS A TAMIZHIAN. THE WORD “ANDAM” IN ANCIENT TAMIZH TEXT PROVES THE FACT.
Andathil ulathe pindam
Pindathil ulathe andam
Andamum pindamum Onre
Arinthu than parkum poluthu”.
(Sattamuni Siddhar)
The elliptical facts (The cosmos and the earth): The earth and everything above and below it, as a whole, constitute the cosmos. Siddhas compared this structure to an egg* (Andam). The earth on which we live, the small globe of all our hopes, exists within it, is compared to egg yolk (Pindam). As long as the egg is intact and safe the yolk is also safe. As long as there is good harmony between the egg and its yolk, via, the egg white, the embryonic life is ensured. Thus, according to the Siddhas, Pindam is always dependent on Andam. In other words, the world is always dependent on the cosmos surrounded by it. Siddhas have referred world as Earth, the surrounding cosmos as Sky and established the connection of these two by the three other basic factors, viz., water, fire and air. Thus, defined the state of art of the entire cosmos with a compound word (referring to five basic factors) as Panchaboodhas
The egg contains the embryo,
The embryo contains the egg;
The egg and embryo are alike,
The informed one will know!
>> An old Siddha song.
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The body machine, a product of Panchaboodhas,
Ruled by aspects of water and fire and also,
Nurtured by air that is inhaled through the right nose,
That nurtures the life-force that known as sky!
>> Thirumoolar Naadi-13
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Thus, the body was, in their discovery, quite comparable to cosmos. Thus they further their comparative study on these two calling them both as bigger-egg (Per+andam) and smaller-egg (Chitr-andam). Now, this comparative study opened a newer question before them. It is nothing but, WHY the bigger-egg is immortal while the smaller-egg is mortal. The God, in response to Siddhas selfless prayers, blessed their unusual question with an apt answer, based on their worthiness to know the same.
DEAR ALL, the word “Andam” refers the shape of egg…..
in hindi also for egg…the word is “Anda” because it has the shape of an earth. So, we find here the tamizh word andam is living in HINDI. The andam gives the shape of CYPHER…that is CIRCLE or ZERO.
If the exploitation of aryans in the name of hinduism should be over.
As long as this smaller egg (the core) survive, the bigger egg (the outer earth) would also be safer. When this chitra andam (uterus) is destroyed, the evolution would get stopped. With Gods’ grace it may continue.