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Tamil……………………………Sanskrit
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1. Kalam ……………………….kaal
2. Niyathi……………………….niyam
3. Kalai …………………………kala
4. Viddhai………………………vrudhi
5. Aragam, ……………………
6. Purudan…………………….
7. Mayai ……………………….maaya
8. Iswaran……………………..Ishwar
9. Sakthi……………………….Shakti
10.Sadasivan……………….Sadashivam
11.Suttham…………………..Shud
12.Aanma…………………….Aaatma
13.Prakaasam………………Prakash
14.Pradeepam…………….. Pradeep
15.tharmasankatam……….Dharmashankat
16.Sarumam…………………Sharma
17.kaaamam (pure love)…Kama
18.Sootram…………………..Sutra
19.Meenam………………….Meena
20.rathiri………………………raat
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Some of the tamizh original words and created sanskrit words for you all. Had been the aryans wrote famous ancient tamizh literatures, then they would have definitely added their foreign accent with selfish motives. It only proves they had invaded “Sind” later on only. When they had introduced “Ganesha” (elephant god) in the family of sivan then it should have been in the “Family” of sivan. Only the seval (cock) the supposed created son of sivan (seval kodi)..,with a flag with a symbol of cock) is found during excavation in Harrappa region.
“Thiruneeru” (the holy ash) is connected with the symbols excavated in harappa. The ancient tamizhian had the habit of burning the dried vilvam leaves full of medical values and applied all over his body after taking bath. What we have today the faces of Parvathi, Sivan and Murugan are imaginary. They were symbols of health related as well as life saving materials. BANYAN tree played a crucial role, it was protecting them all during natural calamities. He learnt all kinds of gymnastics and aerobatics clutching the air roots of the banyan tree. During rain, the tree protected them all giving shelter. The holy fire was burning with flames he learnt meditation and barathanaatyam under this tree. He was very much inspired by NATURE.During windy season, this tree and its rope like roots gave him different shapes and techniques.
He learnt watching monkeys and horses (definitely) and he learnt swimming watching fish………………………
c you later on
Dear all,
I have seen some websites spreading rumours about the talented tamizh sage as an aryan. The title “THIRU” itself is pure tamizh form and it is not having connection with ‘SHRI’ the foreign tongue.
TIME shall come and reveal all the FACTS about this endless OCEAN “TAMIZH” to this world. We are all merely a DROP OF THIS OCEAN.
I am not going to gain anything and no one is going to loose anything for accepting the facts. Its about the TRUTH. Atleast in India it is the oldest language grew on its own having in its womb the mysteries and wonders and unsolved questions and illusions. Those who attain wisdom shall know the glory of this illusion.
stop browsing the net. do your duty at home.
stop being “overobsessed”..
This is language website or ayurvedha,homeopathy website.I think i have came to the wrong website.
Dear Shahrukh anna,
How are you? Good morning to you. I hope you are Shahrukh anna.
hihihihi….this site has become siddha site because i am not getting any negative comments. I hope all are fine at home. Be happy!!!! My blessings (Almighty….winks winks) are with you ALWAYS.
c you in my next birth.
Dear srk anna,
I wished you HAPPY BIRTHDAY. Smile please……
remember always that i give importance to “unani” also. understood. but you forget to talk about the “antiquity”, be selfless and broadminded about facts so ancient in nature.
How to take this vilvam dried leaves powder
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MORNING : empty stomach 1/2 teaspoon with one glass of water. Water should be without chlorine. If the chlorine is mixed then keep the water for a day and then have it.
NIGHT: After food the same quantity. No need to take hot water.
For “toothache”…take this powder as i said above for continuous 48 days. Morning and Night.
For “good eyesight”…. take this powder but during this medication non-vegetarian food is not allowed, because both does not relate with each other. It wont give results.
Understood, dont spend money supersticiously and act wisely and live longer. According to Bible, ancient people lived upto 300 years. So, follow nature and avoid flour based food that would only lead indigestion and eat lots and lots of salad both vegetable and fruits.
UNDERSTOOD!!!!!!! BE HAPPY ALL OF YOU.!!!!!
The medicinal properties of “VILVA PODI” (POWDERED VILVA LEAVES) VILVA CHOORANAM. (WOOD APPLE LEAVES DRIED)
1) It removes cataract, improves eyesight
2) nasal congestion, coungh, sinus
3) tooth decay, tooth pain generally tooth related all problems
4) skin diseases, irritation, itching all kinds of skin related
5) removes cholestrol and maintain the blood pressure
6) diabetic (gradually it cures)
7) gastric problems
8) ulcer
Generally, it increase saliva and create good degestion.
I will give medicinal properties of MARGOSA TREE (Neem leaves) and TULSI (basil leaves)
All nature related. It seems in ancient time the people started applying on their body the ash of the dried vilvam leaves for good health. It does not have any connection with what Agori Babas are doing today, they are almost CANNIBALS.
c you all.
very very funny face indeed.
nalla comedy thaan ponga
i come later on….some one come and attack me. hihihihi
Agori Babas should not be blamed…because they are following their ancient practices…ofcourse i came to know that siddha medical practice is inclusive of human skulls and non-vegetarian item like eggs too for preparing medicines. Powder of Human skull is especially used for treating mentally retarded people. I dunno how they prepared or even now prepare the medicine? have they stopped this or not?..The agori babas of kaasi city(india) are telling by eating the human flesh (of dead bodies) they actually are getting medicine to regain power..it works magically on their body…the flesh has all kinds of proteins and vitamins for them…cruelty it seems but what is the reality?
HISTORY OF FAMILY OF SIVAN
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FISH+AALAMARAM,VELAMARAM+SEVAL
WATER+BANYAN TREE, WOOD APPLE TREE+COCK
MAARIAMMAN+THIRISOOLAM+SEVAL
AALAYAM+SIVAN+MURUNGAN
AALAMMAN+SIVAN+MURUGAN
PARVATI+SIVAN+MURUGAN (THE FAMILY OF THREE GODS)
THE MEANING OF “THRISOOLAM” IS “SPEAR” OR “TRIDENT”( A kind of scepter or spear with three prongs.
“Trishool” in hindi. So, the word “Thirisoolam” is in hindi with adding sound “sh”.
thirisoolam…….”thirichoolam…..thiricha means “twisted”.
the twisted air roots of (aala maram) banyan tree.
The name of Fish in tamizh is “Meen” and the name “meenaaatchi” or meenakshi (“sh” added) is given to parvati, wife of Sivan….meenaaatchi means, the “rule of fish”….when the river is full of fish it is good for the river water…fish removes the dirt from the water and keep it clean and hygienic…..so the importance is given to “fish” and it was worshipped in ancient world….when there wont be fish in the river it would mean the spread of diesease especially water related ailments such as chicken pox and measles…later on fish was given different names and worship started ….they made fish the wife of sivan….
The ancient kingdom of Tamizh king Pandiyan had in their flag the symbol FISH. Their capital was Madhurai, in this city we can find the famous temple “MEENAATCHI”, the rule of fish…later on face given to this “amman”. This is one of so many examples to prove the antiquity of tamizh culture.
MURUGAN+SIVAN+MEENAM
1) Get early in the morning
2) Brush your teeth.
3) Have a good early morning bath.
These above three good morals have almost changed and today we have Appan sivan, Amman Meenaampal, and Makan murukan. I think they have stopped adding the members but only “Ganesha”, the elephant god he is the eldest son. I think though the tamizhian kings were intelligent they were all fools also to believe everything the aryans advised them to follow. Somehow, we are today watching the artistic treasure of the dravidans in the temples in tamizh nadu….hardwork and true arts indeed. I had been to “sankaran kovil” near tirunelveli and i was wondering the time and labour of these people. I appreciate them all.
Dear all,
http://karthiksgraffiti.blogspot.com/2010/06/did-harappans-speak-tamil.html
In the above website you can find a symbol in the middle with BANYAN TREE(aalamaram( AND WOOD APPLE TREE(velamaram), on the right side it is “COCk”, the name given to this bird in ancient time is MURUGAN.
It is evidant that this bird cock was given importance as it was waking the people in the morning. After the bird gave them sound, they had to brush their teeth with stem of aalamaram (banyan tree) and they had to take the powder of the leaves or the fresh leaves of velamaram (wood apple tree) before taking food. It seems it was their routine job in the morning.
The left side symbol of “fish” shows that it was “water”. May be they had to use the water or to worship the river or to take bath.
So, the COCK’s name was “MURUGAN”. Today in north india people call this bird in hindi MURUGA. But after aryans invasion the form was given to this bird and different names given. It is clear during the ancient time no idol in the name of murugan was worshipped. But, the bird “cock” was almost worshipped (given importance)
May be while waking up the people the cock was by its body’s gesture by twisting its body made them to give them the name
murukan means murunkan = muru+ankam (angam)
= twist+body
In hindi “ang” means “body”. So, the tamil word “ankam” is in hindi.
I dont know if this word “muru”GAN” has relation with “Big “BEN” (Big Ben is the nickname for the great bell of the clock at the north end of the Palace of Westminster in London)
CLOCK indeed has relation with COCK. Because it is the early morning bird to make people wake.
PENDULUM has relation with “PINDAM” (tamizh word for the centre part of anything) because the pendulum is fixed to stand in the middle and move right and left.
c you all.
Make my brain ACTIVE.
Instead of giving importance to emotions, SCIENCE about this earth and evolution should be given importance.
All started from the basic five energies. “THIRUMANTHIRAM” the tamizh literature full of verses becomes the basic treasure for leading life. Those who read this thirumanthiram would come to know about all secrets.
AGATHIYAR…………it is not Agasthiyar
AKAM+IYAR…………INNER+WRITE meaning whatever inside mind is written. Written with mental power.
So, we should not be emotional about anything from now ON.
“SINDU”ISM AND SIVAN BOTH ARE CRUSIFIED BY THE ARYANS.
Today no LINGAM is made of navapaasanam. They are merely ordinary stones. There are only two lingams made of navapaasanam the one is in Andhrapradesh “TIRUPATI” (tamizh chittar made it) another one in PAZHANI (Tamizh nadu). The idols kept in the temples were made of navapaaasanam (9 chemicals)
The meaning of tamizh words later on stolen almost by aryans.
Tamil…………………….sanskrit
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apisekam……………….abhishekam
appi+sekam= paste+collect
This is connected with the “navapasanam lingam” since this stone was made mixing 9 kinds of chemicals, whatever food was applied on this stone would cure the ailments. The meaning you have to collect for example, curd, coconut water, honey etc after they have been applied over this lingam(mixture of chemicals) would create a magic of curing dreadful ailments. SO, in the beginning the tamizhians (sitthars) knew the importance of this stone made of 9 chemicals.
The stone was given importance and today what we have the meaning so vulgar is because of aryans. The exact meaning was changed by the aryans for minting money keeping the lingam in temples and they dont give the prasaadam (the holy food) to the devotees.
Tamil……………………………..sanskrit
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PRASAADAM ………………PRASHAD
pra+saadam
wonder+food (rice)
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I wrote about KAATERI = kaatu+aeri= jungle+lake (river)
Since the ancient tamizhians had to face wrath of nature in the form of flood….they began to worship jungle lake…..kaateri.
KAATERIAMMAN= KAAATU+AERI+AMMAN.
So, i think the english name “catherine” is nothing but kaateriamman in short form.
SEMAATHAMMAN = semam+aatha+amman= may be the “SIMON” in english language.
Semam+aatha+amman
welfare+mother+goddess
Hi dear MISS M! U exectly right about the meaning of “Simon” and ‘cetirine’ then wot abt ‘Elizabeth’ i hope eliza+beth= elzhel = natural and beth = born so naturaly born ah?
You dont deserve to use the word ‘TAMIZH”.
but he is fully deserved when he writes thirukkural that too in this modern world..seems to be full of discipline but his brain drag him somewhere else :) the reason is “over chatting” online.
you seem to be full of FRUSTRATION. Be logical not comical.
come as luvkus you the childish one.
you need to learn a lot my child….I can’t curse you…
“Elizh” in tamil means beautiful “beth” or if u say “path” means feet. so it is beautiful feet. elizhpaatham. dont make us go deep into each words….everyone created names and words as they wished too. if u ask what is the meaning of anban it means one who loves…tamil anban…the one who loves tamil…but if u ask why it is “anban” then we should ask the creator of this word…y and what made him to create that?…if u ask why the word “science” exist and what is the exact meaning of it? then i am with answer “progress related to nature or related with nature” but y it is “science” the sound it gives it is beautiful but am with “no answer”…perfect answer….
The name “padma” has been formed from the tamizh words “paatha malar”….feet+flower …the flower under the feet….so, padma is lotus and this flower is kept under the feet of gods as per hinduism.
Difference between a Tamilan and other language people are – other language people can be seen in all religion related websites but Tamil people can be seen in all Language related websites.Religion is more important to other language people particularly north Indians.Example – Ayodhya and Godhra riots.Hindus and Muslims will not even drink water from each other in North India.But For a Tamilan Language is more important than religion even though every tamilan worship god.
PERIYAR MAINTHA,
you have written “GOLDEN WORDS”.
but infact he has complaints with all the tamizhians.
the real creator is the one who created illusion purely man-made not God-made..all cant be blamed on earth.
Do you know why tamizhians and muslims especially in this country india are close to each other? Because these two cultures shared a lot with each other the “faith” the most important one. Thats why we always see the “harmony” here. “Assalaamu Alekkum..vaalekkum salaam”…you get the name of the religion “islam” here in the beginning and also at the end. ….in tamizh we say “islaam azhaikkum, vaazha vaikkum islam…the meaning and explanation i can now give here…. i see here, that the “islaam is inviting and it will let you live”.. the exact translation of what i have wriiten in tamizh. Thats why we always respect each other and no violence here. Nowhere you can find this “unity” but only in tamizhnadu. The nature worship of “sun” later on changed because of aryans and the worship of “moon” started i am sure. Eesan is still the water, the fire, the earth, the air and the sky…they are worshipped in different ways. We do we all fight with each other unnecessarily. We should all be HUMANE.
Even today in villages old aged people use the stem of BANYAN TREE to brush their teeth.
The connection between sivan and vilva leaves and banyan tree is explained. The vivam leaf (BEL LEAF in nothern india) is associated with sivan.
“AALUM VELUM PALLUKKU URUDI”
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This above tamizh proveb says that the BANYAN TREE and the VILVAM TREE (WOOD APPLE TREE) helps improve the strength of TOOTH.
The Tamil proverb says that ‘Aalum Velum pallukku urudhi’, meaning that the barks of these two trees of Aala Maram (Banyan tree) and Vela Maram (coniferous tree of the sea shore), are good for strength of the teeth. (Point to note is that the tooth brush made out from a tiny twig of such a tree is also bio-degradable!)
POINT TO BE NOTED FOREVER AND SHOULD BE STORED.
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So, the symbols of banyan tree and the symbol give us an impression of a spear is vilvam tree.
If you observe the symbols carefully, you will see that both the trees the trunk of the banyan tree and the leaf of wood apple (vilvam tree) are UNITED.
So, it is very much clear that the ancient tamizhians or the dravidians in general belived these trees VERY MUCH HOLI.
AALUM VELUM PALLUKU URUTHI.
In siddha medicine these two trees play main roles
We have MAHA VILVA PODI, the powdered vilva leaves for treating so many ailments.
The same vilva tree’s leaves are shown in CHIDAMBARAM temple in the dark room to cheat the innocent people to loot their money.
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USE BRAIN AND ESCAPE FROM THE DARK ROOM.
The ancient practice of waking up early (cock), brushing the teeth (with banyan tree stem and vilva stem) and having an early morning bath(fish symbol, explains the water) these three main matters full of discipline are now completely changed. Purely NATURAL thoughts are given different shapes and faces and the people are believing with closing their eyes. Everone has problems in life, this is the very factor that made the aryans to loot them by showing artificial faces. The one which is still FORMLESS, what is it doing?
In chitambaram temple,(TN) one chamber is locked for thousands of years i heard this some years back, what is in there? mystery!!!! Explore this temple further, we may get clues about our ancient culture. So, far 50,000/- crores of jewellery and valuables are taken out from the chambers of padmanabha temple, kerala, mindblowing and still in there, 2 chambers still not opened. open all the secret chambers of all the temples and find out what kind of mysteries and ancient treasure they had.
Tamil was the official language of Srilanka,Singapore and Malaysia.Apart from that Tamil is spoken in south Africa,Mauritius,Fiji and Trinidad.Classical language status should be given to a language when it is more than 2000 year old.According to this Tamil was recognized as classical language but other languages which has got classical language status even though it is less than 1500 year old is because of politics.
dear periyar mainthane,
i will explore the titile “latin of the east” given to the language TELUGU. Since all the original words we have in tamizh in full form. Was there misunderstanding because of the mixture and domination of sanskrit (the roots in tamizh) in telungu,
Dear all,
Professor Asko Parpola of Helsinki University about Tamizh
http://karthiksgraffiti.blogspot.com/2010/06/did-harappans-speak-tamil.html
Since in the above website it is written that the symbol of a FIG TREE (BANYAN TREE, ….in tamizh AALAMARAM) the air roots of the tree which looks like the ropes…. are giving me some clues. We often see that the sanyasis or the agori babas in Varanasi (kaasi) with rope like hair and they call themselves the devotee of Siva (shiva). Even in tamizh nadu if the hair on the head get glued together to give an impression like rope then the people say that they are cursed by the Maariamman for not fulfilling their prayer, a pledge they have taken while prayer for welfare or good health of a child or a person.
So, to me BANYAN TREE is playing an important part in clearing my doubts about the rope like hair of sanyasis (saadhus) of this whole india.
There is a Tamil phrase which says
‘Aalayam thozhuvathu saalavaum nandru’
which means
‘Worshipping the ‘Aalayam (temple)’ is greatest of many.
The another name of amman in salem district (TN) is “ayam” ayee.
So, the tree aalamaram is associated with aalayam (temple),
if we split this word “aalamaram” then it is
Aala+maari+amman.
Banyan+water+mother (goddess).
So, the thick rope like hair of sadhus are connected with banyan tree near the river.
ARURE……the babylonian God, if we split the name then it is
ARu+uyire………river+spirit… in tamil….short name “arure”
The agori babas in india are almost naked with thick rope like hair and they can be associated with a festival in ujjain city during KUMBH MELA.
c u all.
miss m and mr.abdul
im sorry i have my semester exams going on so oly i couldnt reply yesterday.all the information provided by both of u were quite interesting and useful, i told my firends and they were also mesmerised by the facts .they also wished both of u.and once again thanks a lot for the service you have provided to our language guys . continue the good work .
Dear Shyam,
Still i am searching “SIVAN” ….EESAN.
The name “EESAN” should be EENDRA+ACCHAN.
Meaning delivered+father (exact meaning in tamizh) the one who created us. the FATHER..
ACCHAN means APPAN in tamizh this word acchan is used by malayalis for father still.
Dear shyam and friends,
STORE THE FACTS IN BRAIN FOREVER.
Dear Shyam,
Good work.aCTUALLY I AM IN official tour to karnatka ,so couldnt concentrate or contribute much to this forum.Shortly,i may resume the same
Are they wishing me or cursing me? What is my fault?
youngsters are very much jovial and they would LISTEN always.
I am curious about the “third person” here.
Dear abdul thambi,
Let us not follow the north indians with “racism” and get out from a place full of emotionless people and reach a destination with full of emotions and those who respect emotions.
Dear abdul thambi,
The domination the north indians in the name of “colour” wont affect us all. Because we have talent. If the tamizhians (south indians) had to go out of india because of humiliation as the north indians keep nick names for us, then an Almighty is somewhere it shall take care of us all in india as well as in foreign countries.
Relality has been shown. Its upto them to understand. Even after realising the facts shown if they continue “racism” then they should not talk about british rule and they dont deserve to celebrate and speak in the name of “INDEPENDANCE”.
Tamizhians had been neglected so far. No one is ready to accept their talent then we should be away from all of them. We do not want dead bodies almost emotionless people.
Above “Navapasnam”(siddha medicine) spelt wrongly as “Navapashanam” manipulated by the aryans.
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Most of the well known temples of Tamil Nadu have historical significance but Palani’s history has facinated me. Palani Murugan was created by a siddha called Bogar, around 3000 BC. Bogar was a saint, authority in medicine and a yogi. He created the Lord Murugan of Palani using, nine different poisonous and naturally occuring matter called “Navapashanam”. They are Veeram, Pooram, Rasam, Jathilingam, Kandagam, Gauri Pasanam, Vellai Pasanam, Mridharsingh, Silasat.
This Navapashanam is supposed to be a Master Medicine of Siddha Medicinal System that cures all kinds of diseases. Even today people who take the prasad of panjamirtham after its abhisekam on the Deity claim that its cures many of their diseases. Later Bogar created his own samadhi in the Palani hill underneath the Navabasha idol of Murugan and entered into his samadhi to attain Nirvana, Nirvigalpa samadhi, a stage where the mind gets dissolved into the universal energy. The cave of entrance to his samadhi is still present at the Palani Hill. Legend has it that Bogar was the sage who visited China and was instrumental in spreading the Yogic/Kalari Payattu principles among chinese. Kalari form of martial arts is said to be the oldest of its kind in the world. Palani is also one of the Six Military Camps of the Lord Murugan from where he fought and defeated Soorapadma, leader of demonic forces.
ARYAND DO NOT DESERVE TO ENTER THE PLACE SO DIVINE.
There was not a God by the name of “Murugan” (as we see today the photo) in reality with flesh and blood and the saying that he had achieved a lot as written by people full of imagination to stimulate the faith of the innocent people. When there was not Lord Siva and Goddess Parvati ..how come Lord Muruga lived…NO. It was the bird “Cock” which was given priority in ancient time and now it is changed and people really belive that Muruga is a “Living God” to bless them…they have strong faith and devotion…somehow i think they have peace of mind believing the false belief still….let it continue…I am still a tiny drop of this huge ocean….Those who understood would continue seeking too….for the ultimate bliss that is the abode of God full of wonders…….and shining particles swaying away behind white angels are flying with smile on face….so innocent!!!!!…glittering dust so colourful …..i wish i could see all of them in reality!!!….. and also the innocent and compassionate face of Jesus!!!!! Would it be real or my imagination?? Mystery prevails!!!!
i remember my childhood christian friend who used to show me a lot of greeting cards with colourful shiny particles with angels, a small room in the upstair in tirunelveli i used to rotate and shake the cards to see how they glitter… and i am fond of these greeting cards and i remember the church where the father used to feed the new born children with holy water, the giant white coloured church on the roadside i dont forget anything and my schoolmate catherine and her mother, the principal of our school in pavoorchathiram, i want to see them all again.
This proves the ANTIQUITY of the tamizh civilisation and SIDDHA medicine.
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Siddha medicine is practised in Southern India. The origin of the Tamil language is attributed to the sage Agasthya and the origin of Siddha medicine is also attributed to him. Before the Aryan occupation of the Sind region and the Gangetic plain there existed in the southern India, on the banks of the river Kavery, and Tamirapani, a civilization which was highly organised
(1) This civilization has a system of medicine to deal with problems of sanitation and treatment of diseases. This is the Siddha system of medicine. It is possible that in the course of time this system and the one prevalent in the north supplemented and enriched each other. The therapeutics of Siddha medicines consists mainly of the use of metals and minerals whereas in the earlier Ayurveda texts there is no mention of metals and minerals
The universe consists of two essential entities, matter and energy. The Siddhas call them Siva (male) and Sakti (female, creation). Matter cannot exist without energy inherent in it and vice versa. The two co-exist and are inseparable.
They are the primordial elements PUTAS not to be confused with modern chemistry. Their names are
Munn(solid) (sand),
Neer (fluid) (water),
Thee (radiance) (fire),
Vayu (gas) and
Aakasam (ether) (sky)
These five elements (Bhutas) are present in every substance, but in different proportions. Earth, water , fire , air and ether are manifestations of these 5 elements .
OLD FASHION means the OLD PEOPLE WHO KNEW THE SECRET.