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Thanks for the information Mr.Human.
This is really a good news for tamilnadu government.Constructing tirupati in tamilnadu will create lot of revenue for tamilnadu government and also Poor people will make a living by selling flowers,coconut and shaving the head.I will be more happy if tirupathi devasthanam divert all the people from tirupati to kanyakumari.
Dear periyar mainthane,
make sure all the jewels, coins and cash are used for the welfare of people who are in need, not to the homes of aryans. I always see aryan women with diamond ear rings and nose rings eventhough they belong to middle class families. Where do they get money for buying diamonds? very very strange. observation started earlier by me not today.
yes poor people earn by selling flowers, coconut and other things…but what about people(piramans) sell their conscience? The answer is “illusion” would continue and the people would chase illusion forever.
Yesterday, 25th, november,2010, a five feet high burial urn dating to the Megalithic period (300 BC to 100 AD) and containing teeth and some other articles was unearthed by construction workers at a village near Nagapattinam, Tamil Nadu.
Taking into account the shape, colour and other aspects of the urn, it appears to belong to the Megalithic period. In this particular urn a high ranking soldier might have been buried,”
I have the knowledge that egyptians used to keep the urns digging the sand in the desert but they found that after a fiercful desert storm, they urn came out and they found out that the bodies kept with applying salt several months before was intact without decay. The egyptian after seeing the uncontrolable desert storm left the idea of burying the urns then started constructing pyramids …rest is history.
The salt almost had taken the moisture of the body that made the dead body fresh though spiritless.
In ancient tamizhnadu also we had the habit of keeping the bodies of kings, soldiers inside urns.
Need more information. Very very interesting.
One good thing Tamils should feel happy is : because there is no Hindi in tamilnadu communal parties like BJP, RSS and sangh pariwar was not active in tamilnadu.Other wise tamilnadu would be like Gujarat and orrisa where innocent muslims and christians were killed.BJP, RSS and sangh pariwar are the Brahman parties.They should not be allowed in tamilnadu.
already tirupati devasthanam has started constructing tirupati balaji temple in kanyakumari, tamilnadu. get the news from Dinamalar. They can not be stopped.
God promised that a Virgin’s foot would crush these cobras of the night. but, these cobras can not be crushed.
This is a good news for tamilnadu government.Constructing tirupati in tamilnadu will create lot of revenue for tamilnadu government.I will be more happy if tirupathi devastanam divert all the people from tirupati to kanyakumari.
send the masked murugan in tirupathi (rumours heard recently) to kanyakumari….I want to explore this Balaji temple…is he really the tamizh god murugan?….by the way why do humans shift Gods from here and there????….What kind of nonsense they are doing???….He is everywhere…Funny people…When god is not granting blessings, there you see, LTTE, NAXALITE, MAOIST and and lots and lots of them….”the Chapter of Realisation” leads to violence…Destiny is making us all move like puppets….
LET KANYAKUMARI ALONE. PLEASE. DONT DISTURB HER. SHE IS A TRUE SOUL. SHE IS INNOCENT.
Dear periyar mainthane,
Abdul thambi was right. He does not want tamizhians to let flourish the language hindi. Yes… i agree with him too. But, the knowledge of hindi is must for the tamizhians working in gulf countries. After all it is a matter of survival. We can control the aryans by our will power. But….most of the tamizhians in villages as well as in cities are still illiterate and supersticious. Who would take efforts?….hmmmmmm.
they would never become literate :)…they would never forget their past too…because they are haunted by memories of the past…..u kno….2 eyes and 1 nose…:)…just pass the coins man!!!!!…where????
I am surprised to know that you are supporting not only muslims but also christians. Hope to see brightful future for all. I think religions and thoughts attached with religions are creating commotion and confusion among people. First of all, all should be human.
This all does not make any sense. fix it up please???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Do you want to know everything then just study the culture of tamizhians and especially the worship of ‘AMMAN”. You shall be enlightened.
reg: prasaadam
is pra practically possible in tamizh?
‘coz I see words like prasanthi are written pirasaanthi
Saadam in tamizh means the “cooked rice”. We have so many herbs in SIDDHA MEDICINE starting with “pra”….like ‘Piramathandu”..its a kind of stem of a herbal plant. We are in need to go deep into this magical world of SIDDHA with complete “SITHHI” (the divine power). Got it.!!!!!!!
i suppose we pronounce what we write in tamizh, if that is the case why pira is to be pronounced pra; i am convinced with saatham;
Also you said words like dooram, buththi to be proper tamizh words AFAIK no authentic tamil word starts with a voiced stop(ga ja Da da ba) so how can you say dooram is a pure tamiz word and not a loan word from other language
Dear phani,
Eventhough we say or pronounce thooram as dooram and raakam as raagam its because of our relation with our neighbour state especially kerala. U may find people in tirunelveli, thootukudi cities nearby kerala prounounce the words with giving strong tone. For example, they say for sujata….jujaata.(observation is needed). the people in chennai or any other cities nearby do not proununce like them but the habit of copying people’s mannerism and style makes such words alive. Our tamizh language has been facing lots of changes because of so many literary authors and it is in our hand to make this language “survive”
PIRAPPU in tamizh means BIRTH.
PIRALAYAM means ‘CALAMITY”. (piraLayam)
We have so many words starting with “pira” like “PIRAMAKIZHANKU”…a root kind of vegetable of a plant being used in siddha medicine. I dont know how far they take this system of medicine, it is the oldest ancient medical practice….our tamizh sithars were once upon a time practising this sitha medicine in kayilaaya malai (now himalaya) in this word you get “aalaya” the banyan tree worship, now it is used for temples.(aalayam).
Our ancient tamizh culture and literature had been written on PALM LEAVES (panai olai)….hard work …you see…. and how can we ever keep them safe? We have some of them kept in Tholporul kaatchiyagam….The museum of antique treasure??? …may be “Archeology Deparment”. We lost probably during earth quake near sind region and during that time in the continent lemuria (kumari kaandam). We have lost almost all treasures. But, aryans can not manipulate the world for long…….Mainly, Siddha has been so far the inspiration for all the medical system. Some of them are not copied by the aryans like “thodu varnam” (touch therapy) though japan, china (accupressure) and other countries follow them.
HARD WORK ALWAYS PAYS.
Thanks for enquiring
who said “hard work always pays”….nope!!!! :)
Dear Pani
Dhooram is a descent of the Tamizh word “Tholaivu”,like Dhaanam is a descent of the Tamizh word “Tharuuthal”
i can not write the exact ancient meaning of the word DOORAM but for DAANAM ofcourse.
it is thaa+annam = give+ food.
Annapoorani….the one who is removing hunger.
it was “thooram” not “dhooram”….we have “thooral” also it means the “drizzling” of rain water (rain drops).. “thoora paarvai” would mean the the glance put on the long distance”. So, it proves that “dhooram” is a strong toned tamizh word. Also keep it in mind, there are so many words for everything in tamizh. Some have gone into the telugu region, malayala region and kannada region. For example, we say “Velai” for work but telugus would say “seva” but the full form in tamizh is “sevai”. Also the same with hindi people also, “kathai” in tamizh means story they say “katha” in hindi.
Each and every tamizh word can be splited and they have inner meaning in them, and for each character and thing there are so many names given…it is very difficult to plunge into this ocean and find out the meaning of each letter and words….we need time and dedication towards this language… unforutnately i dont have..what i have done is the observation over merely a smallest drop of this huge ocean. The more you dig out you would see still something is there and going deep and deep…
the way in which the brahmins have added tones differently to each tamizh word has made us all tamizhians search for the original word. Very very cunning indeed!!!! Because of them, everything changed in the entire universe, because of them only all kinds of non-sense customs started. The interesting fact here is “Even” now they are exploiting all very effectively…u see silent trespass.
There is no need to meditate to attain this “sitthi”…it comes to you on it own…you may not be knowing its presence…but it is within you…people who study deeply about this subject can find out the person with “sitthi” very easily….it makes you foretell about events in subconcious state of mind and makes you draw or write something dealing with spirtualism….the spirits would make you realise that it exist but it can not make you stop the natural disasters,,,catastrophe….creation and destruction both are co-related….very difficult and deep subject to be explored
aane wale ghatnawon ko mahsus to kar sakte hain koi par kisi ko keh nahi sakte…kya karein…khudrat hai aisa ek chamatkaar cheez, isko samajhna bahut mushkil hai bhai, phir bhi hum insaan aapas mein kyon larte rehtein hain.
one can easily understand or foreseen the coming events tragic natured but to express them is very very difficult, we are not given the power. Nature is when ruling this world and to understand nature is also tough job.. why we small humanbeings are fighting with each other.
When they have changed one of the names of sivan ie.. PIRAMAN as BHRAMMAN…there is no need for searching further. We say everything in full form. “pira” not “bhra”…”thira” not “thra”…”mira” not “mra”…we say “mirukam for animal but they “mrug”. “vanam” for garden or jungle they “van”. we say “mokam” (attachment, desire, passion)..they say “moh”.
Dear Periyar mainthane,
According to Mr.Fulton J.Sheen,
“The telescope does not destroy the eye, nor does it create new worlds, but it enables the eye to see realities that, although they were there before, the naked eye could never reach”
In the same manner, Tamizh does not destroy anyone, anything …it is also not creating a new world for itself…..now, Tamizh is making the people to see the realities which were already there but no one could not understand the deepest meaning of this great OCEAN”. Efforts have started already.
Time shall come and it shall prove that “Tamizh” has been so far great inspiration for all.
Be hopeful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFI0jUuV53w
Ever-green malayalam song from the film ‘CHEMMEEN’ (Red Fish). I am emotional listening to these old melodies praising the glory of ocean…kadalamma (Sea Goddess)
Those who want to learn HINDI can go to this given below site for infn.
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http://indiaedunews.net/announcement/show.asp?aid=1048
Applications may be sent to:
The Deputy Director,
Department of Correspondence Course,
Central Hindi Directorate,
West Block – 7, R.K. Puram, New Delhi – 110 066
Central Hindi Directorate Phone Number : (11) 26178454 26105526
have u all noted the above site?…:)
Today kerala chief minister has put the demand for classical language status for Malayalam.He said “It is without any credible reason that Malayalam alone is being denied the status, which has been granted to other South Indian languages Tamil, Kannada and Telugu,” he said at a meeting.Malayalam is a 1000 year old language.If Malayalam is given classical language status,Tulu people should also ask for classical language.At last there will be no respect for true classical language like Tamil.So all the tamilans should be united and try to get classical language status from united nations.united nations will surely give classical language status to Tamil because of its 2500 year age.United nations will not merely give classical language status to other Indian languages which they got by putting political pressure.
The “mother” always beautiful. We do not disrespect any language here. We only are indicating the antiquity and some times similarities. We never ever here humiliate sanskrit because we tamilians always respect people and their emotions. Hindus goes to velaankanni matha temple in nagapatinam as well as to Nagore Dargah. They have faith in all religions. In general all are in need of “peace”. We do not hate anyone here. When we say “aryans” it means the “veda period” and their torture. In my opinion they have created all the religions because of their atrocities. Lord Buddha was the first one to take step. He was frustrated seeing their cruelty. I remember my school days in the book very clearly buddism started because they could not tolerate the “HORSE SACRIFICE” during “veda yagnam”. The buddism is full of vegetarianism concepts and meditation all started from the “Sind” region. Only herbal products had been used and the people were almost peaceful watching nature. Only after the invasion of aryans everything changed. Casteism, cruelty against women, prostitution, consumption of liquor etc..etc… They wanted the people to fight with each other and UNITY of the people irritated them.
In my point of view, Malayalis have given lot of space to these people. They have the support of NATURE. My father used to listen lots of malyalam songs of JESUDOSS and others. They are very very melodious and soothing. You can see more and more christians are in kerala its because they had been facing problems from the aryans. History of kerala would give you the details. When would this country INDIA get suitable answer for our questions?
GOD IS LIGHT ……………SATAN MEANS DARKNESS.
TAMIZH IS TAMIZH.
WE DO NOT WANT ANY CERTIFICATE FROM OTHERS.
WE ARE IN NEED OF DIGNITY FOR OUR LANGUAGE “TAMIZH”
TRUTH SHALL BE TRUTH “FOREVER”.
WE ARE VERY NEAR TO “GOD”
TAMIZH IS TAMIZH.
WE DO NOT WANT ANY CERTIFICATE.
WE KNOW WHAT OUR MOTHER TONGUE “TAMIZH” IS.
WE ARE IN NEED OF DIGNITY FOR OUR LANGUAGE “TAMIZH”
TRUTH SHALL BE TRUTH “FOREVER”.
WE ARE VERY NEAR TO “GOD”
IC
when srilankan tamils were attacked everyone protested against the attack execpt brahmans.
sethu samudram project which was a dream project of kalaigner karunanidhi was stalled because of Brahmans.Example is subramaniya swamy who is a Brahman has filed a case in court against the demolition.so Brahmans behavior looks like they are against Tamils.Here itself we can see Tamil Brahmans are supporting Sanskrit instead of Tamil for oldest language status.
Dear periyar mainthane,
They can not tolerate any RELIGION. They give nick names to all the people. The history of giving nick names started from them i guess. You see, the basic four groups, brahman, kshatriya, vaishya and shudra. So, we should not blame non-brahman for uttering nick names for generally south indians of all religions. They want to create commotion and confusion among people. When they want to keep the religion and faith based on thosands of Gods then how would they ever allow the SCIENCE grow in India.
We had personal experience in the past. They are very much dominating still. They can not be loyal to anyone. They do not accept and want christianity, Islam, buddism, jainism, zorastrianism, sikism to survive. The whole nature of “SINDUISM” (NATURE WORSHIP) has GONE ALMOST. We allow them in the temples to chant, we construct the temples with hard work and we also paint the pictures of Gods, so they are exploiting the artistic treasure of non-brahmans and they are looting. IT WILL CONTINUE. Paamara makkal (illiterate people) should be educated and informed. As i said earlier EMOTIONS ARE EXPLOITED IN A VERY WELL PLANNED MANNER. The people have kept their brain in the temples and they are brainless now.
When science grow after facing all kinds of problems they will come to enjoy. Dont they have mobiles, tv, mixi, grinder, moped, fan and all kinds of electronic gadgets?? They want sophisticated life only but they will try their best to stop all the humans from using their brain towards a brightful future, they want us all dwell in the temples, listen to their created stories and pour money. By occupying all higher posts, they can implement anything and destroy a person’s life also very easily, not only they use their education to keep themselves well-settled but also destroy the supportless ones. These days non-brahmin educational institutions have come up to wipe the tears away. “Relief” but not 100%.
The king Rama (Kshatriya) was misguided by the aryans to kill King Ravanan (dravidan) in a cunning manner. So, they would continue their plot. They can never forget the PAST. If Sethu Samudram Project is not ON then it means they are still DOMINATING.
MY DEAR MISS ”M”
Ravanaa is not tamil/dravidian……….he is a half brahmin / half (asura/Daitya)
hope u got it correct……….
u mean half brahmin and half hitler…..brahmins are against brahmins….but y? that would mean then that bad brahmin was killed by a good kshatriyan..and who was that good brahmin who advised king rama…good job indeed….very interesting..i dont read stories of mythological characters. good brahmins are living in india too.
i did not know ravana’s marriage was an inter-caste marriage….who were his parent? why was not he allowed to live…he was a shiva devotee, good musician…i dont accept the killing of a good brahmana just for his keeping long moustache. it was his passion to grow a long moustache.
thanks a lot for being so polite…I am grateful.
you need to grow.
u r indeed supporting tamils…..thats like a good boy!!!!…dont change.
I want to know the list of people who protested against the killing of tamizhians in ilankai. I am really curious.
First of all make a list of people who hate tamizhians, why they hate and what is reason and their grievance may please be explored and actions may please be taken at the earliest. So far tamizhnadu has been a state full of peaceful atmosphere, culture and disipline and whoever spoiling may please be noted and strict actions may please be taken. Censor board of tamizhnadu should be warned, they are allowing guys to paste vulgar posters in the cities. it will spoil the minds of school and college going students and mainly all the public who watch them. how to escape man from all these problems???? the solution is here, towards ocean, no pain.
brahmins are always united from kashmir to kanyakumari. They hav mixed poison into our culture so…like pure and unspoiled milk got in it the poison mixed.. how can anyone?..its very very difficult to take out the poison. Those who escaped are in peace, they had to do this because of the atrocities the brahmins committed.
The different ancient names of Sivan in tamizh language
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KARUTHAMANIKANDAR…. meaning the black cloud
CHALAMANIVAAN……………falls+neer+sky
GURUMANI…………………….master+rainwater
MAASILAMANI………………..spotless rain water
MANITAN……………………….rainwater (definitely)
MANIKANTAN…………………he noted rain
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All the above names of Sivan clearly indicate “water”
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Neerchadaiyan………………the air roots of banyan tree drenched
chaDaimuDiyan …………….the one who has rope like hair chadaiyan…………………….again the same meaning
chaDaiyANDi…………………same meaning “Aandi” means one who
sacrifice earthly pleasures
chaDaiyappan……………….the Father with rope like hair
chalamaNivAn……………….the one who is almost the water fall
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The above names of sivan in tamizh shows Sivan was the name given to the “Banyan Tree”. We can verify with the picture of sivan with rope like hair.
me smiling here.
“OM MANI PADME HUM”
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I am researching this sentence.
“Chinna chinna paadam vaithu kanna vaa.
please come kanna (krishna) step by step with your little feet”
Here we are worshipping infact the “rain” God “Mani” is definitely the rain water….mazhai+neer…..rain+water. It seems the ancient sages were worshipping sitting folding their feet (padmaasanam) (leg+seat)…paadam=leg and aasanam=seat. After meditation, they had seen “rain”…..MANIKANDAN….is mazhai+neer+kandaan….the exact meaning in english “he noted rain water”. The meditation all started worshipping water and fire basically. Our tamizh words generally end with “om” sound, like kalasam(a vessel), paavam(sin), mathuram, maayam(illusion), rokam(disease), sukam(good health), kopam (anger), aalayam (the banyan tree+Goddess, the place of worship) raagam (tune), selvam(property), rathham(blood), sarithiram(history)….etc…etc…..Each time we utter these words daily we unknowingly say “om”. Treasure of knowledge.
According to Buddha, he said, that make your body the river and let all the fire crackers (negative comments) fall into it. They would get extinguished.
If Tamil is a banyan tree it can hold all air roots and bear them.
“SATHYAM SIVAM SUNTHARAM” ……
DO YOU GET THE SOUND “OM” HERE?
“ARAM SEYYA VIRUMPU” (Have passion for doing good deed)
PURELY “TAMIZH” WORDS.
“OM SAANTHAM OM”……TAMIZH IS LIVING.
Joke : A man went to Tamil political leader Ramadoss and given a gift which contains HOT DOG.Ramadoss after eating little bit asked him what, it is a bun?
because ramadoss has ordered everybody has to speak Tamil in front of him.the man replied in Tamil iiya idhu soodana naai.After hearing this ramadoss thrown the hot dog and run away crying.
Which part of this world you are kk? very cheap naai….cool down!!!
good story teller, you have forgotten to add the name “anand” to your name.
pet animal dog is said to be faithful always…dont use the word dog in future…got it!!!!
yes i understand…tamizhians should learn english well and express. no one could not get you. Because you also created “illusion” here :) which kaliyugam could not recognise. :)
VEERAMAMUNIVAR
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Beschi composed three Tamil grammars and three dictionaries, Tamil-Latin, Tamil-Portuguese and Tamil-Tamil. His magnum opus, the Thembavani is considered by experts to this day as one of the best Tamil works ever written.
I am today remembering and thanking CONSTANZO BESCHI (VEERAMAMUNIVAR) wholeheartedly.
Which is the earlest civilization KUMARI KANDAM or MESAPATOMIAN?
make a plunge into the sea and find out…you are not a true dravidan….aryan indeed
She is under the ocean now,,because of atrocities..leave her alone there, dont try to explore her..humans have the habit of digging the graveyard even. She is very much happy deep there. by the way who named her “kumari”???
Digging “Veeramamunivar” makes people irritated because he had taken away with him the ancient tamizh world…..
miss m,
Dont care about others.Actually you had given good information about vilvam.
Dear Periyar mainthane,
Thank you. I knew from the beginning there would be protest against Tamizh and i did not come here with any intention. Everything had to happen. Suddenly, i caught a facination. This is the TRUTH. Its very difficult for people to accept the “REALITY”. Emotions are attached with devotion. I do not force anyone. They know how to accept. Never ever tamizh was pushed and forced upon others. We were doing our duty only. It is a sin to murder a language which grew on its own. I wont be here after some days. I think i have written a LOT. How much i dig out?
c you all.
vilvam is pure tamil sittha medicine…not ayurvedic….dont change the truth….try to give dignity to this …the oldest tamil ancient medical practice of this world.
But you are not giving respect to “siddha” medical practice…thats your mistake…What is your opinion about me a tamizhan?..i am not sitting seriously here, i am with smile..
Uruvam illa iraivanai
uLLe thedu manithane nee un uLLe thedu.
maasu atra manam kondaal
Eesane unnai vaazhthuvaar!!!!!!
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The who does not have “form”
Have not you tried so far to find Him? search Him!! He is “IN” u
when you have flawless mind and heart
The Almighty shall bless U!!!!!!!
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miss m, i think you are working or owning a internet centre that is why you can be seen here 24/7.
I do my duty and serve.
Dear lavkus,
you should appreciate her work.she is doing a nice work.Every Tamilan should be proud of her.
she came here accidentally….she is in the hospital now..
Tamizh is a huge ocean that can’t be crossed. My brain is aching.
but you are concerned about “tamizh” only…very very funny!!!!
Are they really??? i don’t think so…this world is very very selfish and money minded….most of them brainless thats why they are exploited. I give importance to the hardwork of ancient people…am not modern.
it seems she is not operating the computer but the good conscience which sadly no one has in reality.
miss m,
keep it up.nice message.
THANKS A LOT.
but you are sending bad message for me…i want pure tamizh of madurai, the capital of pandya kingdom and the birth place of courageous woman RANI MANGAMMA….hell with chennai chentamizh…..i never thought you practiced this language seriously….go to madurai at once and be good…let me go to my father;s native place too…hell with madras tamil…
I use my MENTAL POWER to feel your PRESENCE.
I caught you……
again want a negative comment ?
I know about “veda” culture. “k”Uma” is a female..She has the capacity to engulf all.
had i been your own sister what would you do? I had enough!!!!
but only when i apply my mental power not “always”. I am always casual that makes people narrow minded. I always want to laugh and be cheerful but i can not.
negative comment : miss m = miss mental
It proves you are noting. Thank you.
i realise all can create ILLUSION. Everyone has the ability. Earth is full of confusion. The one who created the illusion in the past triumphed over innocent people. But, today all are in trouble.
ADYAR BANYAN TREE
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Adyar is very famous for its Banyan tree. The vast area occupied by the Banyan tree belongs to the Theosophical Society. It stretches from a bridge at the banks of Adyar River to the Seashore and the Banyan tree is in the centre. T
There are people who often say that this is the largest Banyan tree in the world. People, who have some doubts about this statement, claim this to be the second largest Banyan tree. Some say that the largest is in Calcutta. Others say it is in Kasi and in Prayag too.
Adyar Banyan Tree, believed to be around 450 years old, is located on the campus of Theosophical Society at Adyar in Chennai. Its sprawling branches cover 40,000 sq ft. Under its shade, as many as 3000 people at a time have sat and listened to discourses by J Krishnamurthi, Annie Besant, Maria Montessori and others.