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The oldest language

Linguists debate whether all languages are descended from a common ancestor. This can’t be completely true, since many sign languages have been invented out of whole cloth in modern time (Nicaraguan sign is a famous example), as was, to a meaningful extent, Hawaiian Pidgin.

However, students of history know from the ancient Greek historian Herodotus that Phrygian is the first language. According to his writings, an Egyptian king by the name of Psammetichus ordered that two children “of the ordinary sort” be raised in an isolated cabin without exposure to language. At the age of two or so, the children began to speak Phrygian, which was taken as proof that Phrygian, not Egyptian, is the world’s earliest language.

This study is a great example of why experiments need to be replicated before they are taken too seriously.

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2,593 thoughts on “The oldest language”

  1. Congress has looted the country so far and now BJP would continue..there should be strong rules and regulations to punish politicians when they are caught corrupted but unfortunately we do not have such legal system in india. It has become now a “rope stunt”..one would throw and another would catch, we had been watching this stunt silently so far for so many years and its a matter of shame that no new party is emerging.. does that mean no one has guts to form a party to protest against this sinful stunt…rich politicians would always be rich and poor people would be poor as usual. Govt.’s money to run the country has now become the personal property of crooked politicians, people raise the issue but because of “amnesia” they dont remember.. it seems because daily there is non-stop new scandal, which one to be followed and probed.. this kind of robbery is different..no hard work of breaking and looting, smoother ways are followed. May we request the politiicians to retire voluntarily and give chance to young guys and girls to run this country?

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    Sab lut gaya to ab kya karen…..this proves the helplessness of people.

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  2. Oru uthavi entru naam thedi nirkkum pozhuthu entha oru kadavulum mannirkku irangi vanthu seyyaamal manithan roopathil thaan vanthu seyya mudiyum. Vanthu seyyum manithan.. thaan entha matham, enna saathi, enna niram entru koora maataan. Uthavi perupavanum athai ketkka maattan. Angu thaan “ithayam” ennum anbu irukkum. Engu manithan.manithanukku niram, kulam, perumai paarkkaamal uthavi seyvaano angu thaan kadavul vaasam seyvaan. Ithayame illaamal palar koyilil archanai seygiraargal enbathai vida appaavi makkalin kaasai kuriyaay vaithu thaan pizhaikiraargal enbathu thaan sariyaana pathilaai irukka mudiyum. Entru manithanukku manithan ethiraay irukkiraano avanul “ithayam” enbathai kadavul vaikka maranthu vittaan, antha idathil “kallaithaan” vaithu ullaan enbathu purinthu vidum. Pala poraattangal poraadi, Mannai izhanthu, than urimayay izhanthu, ellaame koduthum aasai adangaatha Panam, porul ithai adaiya virumbum makkalukku innum vaari vazhangiyum entha oru nanmaiyum adaiyavillai. Oru pakkam ANu Ulai (nuclear plant) Oru pakkam kaaveri neer prachanai, oru pakkam sivakaasi sogam (uyirai edukkum pandigaigal thevaiya?) entru engu paarthaalum avala nilamai thaan. Oru kelvi, Kadavul manithargalai padaithu avargalul “kodiyavargalaiyum” padaithu enna thaan sothithu kondu irukkiraan? Innum naam matham, palavidamaana nambikkaikal entrum nammai naame pirithu kondu ullome athu ethanaal? Ellorum manithargal thaane, iraivan oruvan mattum thaane.

    Those who are against tamizhans should start think about “DEEDS” (KARMA THEORY).

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    • if everyone starts thinking about KARMA THEORY how can there be circle of life…there would be end of life and end for this whole earth, this earth should revolve so knowingly God had created sinners also. :)

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  3. Tamizhanin varalaatril avan chooriyanai thaan appan chivanaagavum, maariyay thaan ammanaagavum kumbittu vanthu irukkiraargal. Intru tamizhan prachanai entru ethu vanthaalum nalla yosanai kooraamal muthalil atharkku ethiraay kural kodupatho, ezhuthuvatho yaar enbathuai nangu arivulla makkal purinthu kondu iruppaargal. Kaalam kaalamaai vervai, irathham sinthi uzhaithu serthu vaitha panam, nagai anaithum kondu poi koyilil kottiyum palan illai. .. koyilil irakkame illaamal chilaikku aruge othupavar thannai bhramanar entru koori kolpavar tamizhanukkaka entraavathu poraadi irukiraargala? Theruvil vanthu kural koduthaara? illaiye..Eppozhuthum avan tamizhan azhivathai thaan virumbuvaargal. Iruppathai enakku kodu..nee sethhu madi engiraargal Tamizh maNNil kaal vaithu, vasithu, tamizh pesi, ezhuthi, intha mannil irunthu, uNavu undu, neerai kudithum intrum manathalavil tamizh makkalodu ontraathavargal. Maanam, vetkam, rocham, choodu, churanai ellaam nam tamizh thalavargalum, intha maN mel paasam kaattum islaamiyargal silarum thaan nyaayathirkkaaka kural koduthu varugintraner. Kadavul enna kaasai entraavathu vaai thiranthu kettatha? Iniyaavathu urangi kondu irukkum tamizh makkal ezhunthu tamizhar nalanukkaaka poraada vendum. Indiyavil muyarchi seythum palan illai enil ulaga makkalukku nam poraatathai solli avargalin aatharavai naada vendum. India arasaangam pasu thol porthiya puli enbathai vida “nari” enbathu thaan sariyaay irukkum. Irakkame illaathorai nam maNNil vittu vittu “vanthavarai vaazha vaippom” entru kooruvathu kozhaithanmaana pathilaai thaan irukka mudiyum. Veeram enge?? Nam kalaachaaram enge?? Nam perumai, uzhaippu, paNpaadu enge? Adimaiyaay oru silarkku panividai seyvathai vida poraadi vetri kaanbathe chaala chirantha kaariyamaai irukkum. Yaar nallavar, yaar kettavar enbathai purinthaale velicham thaan.

    Only 20% of tamizh brahmins support tamizhans. The rest are purely SELFISH and EXPLOITATIVE. Stop cheating tamizhans. There should be LIMIT.

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    • Those who can even easily cheat Gods, would they ever stop a second to help? Good conscience is necessary to understand the problems and help. You cant expect such things from people who are heartless. God only can show the results.

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  4. We are trapped between both Congress and BJP. Both will always conspire against tamizhans. By allowing nuclear project in tamizhnadu in a tsunami prone area they had again shown they are always and will be conspirators. BJP is anti-tamizh political party, exactly like Congress and they were especially the family of Mrs.Sushma Swaraj is having very good relationship with the family of Raj Pakshe. No one can hide facts and secrets for so long, it shall come out one day..God is silently watching the deeds. As far as the matter of tamizhans are concerned there are no difference of opinions, confusions and disapproval between Congress and BJP. Both are same. This game has been so far played by both the partie and they have both again proved the fact that they are Anti-tamizhans by inviting the murderer Raj Pakshe. Two or three cruel hearted persons can make 100 people to follow them and command. They dont care about scams and scandals and genocide. Unless they make their Hearts pure and caring, no one can save this country. Greediness and selfishness are the reasons.

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    • Not only tamizh literature but buddist literature also knows a chaste and generous tamizhan girl called “MANIMEKALAI” who is known for preaching buddism at the same time the subject “Charity”. Even now, tamizh literature praises this glorious girl. After experiencing what Mrs.Sushma Swaraaj is doing, now, tamizhans are going to remember this betrayal for so many coming lives. One has to give answer, she would face too. People always remember good hearted people their good deeds are respected and given a special place in the history. “Pen Entraal Peyyum Irankum” enbathu tamizh proverb… What that devil would do after seeing Sushma…She would run away from her… Hearty people are always remembered.

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      • Dear Manimekalai, i am very much impressed after reading your story, you already grabbed my mind and had been coming with me eversince i was in school, same emotions again, you are a wonderful and chaste girl, i dont have words to describe you. i would like to meet you in my next life hopefully, i am dying to see you. Be with me always. Thanks.

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    • Uranium is being loaded without giving importance to all the safety measures. God knows the destiny of koodankulam’s innocent and poor people. Why always the voice of poor people is neglected? Trivandram, Kanyakumari etc would also face the tragedy if there is leak of radiation from uranium.

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      • Always remember there are not only natural accidents some are man-made too. Humans are the most poisonous one..keep this in mind always. This whole earth is made with two forces.. both positive and negative. Good and Evil. The job of satan is to create confusion, death, calamity here the satan is “nuclear” this power is against nature…always be prepared to face nuclear accident. 70% of people are ethiest but they call themselves thiest. TRUTH. Knowingly done sin is called as Sin of Satan.

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  5. KANAPATHI MORIYA…is actually KANAM (heat) PATHI (lord) MAARI (water) AYYA (Master or Sir).

    kanyakumaari
    kannaiyya (Kanhaiyya)
    kanapathi (Ganpati)
    kankai (Ganga)
    Kanaka Thurkai (Kanaka Durga)
    Kanthan (Kaanth)
    Chooriya Kanthan
    Kanchan (Kaanchan)

    All are pure tamizh words. “Kan”apathi and Muru”kan” all are representing SUN only full of heat and magnetic power. Kaantham in tamizh means manet. One should just observe the tamizh “OM” carefully and learn the hidden meaning. Both science and spirtual matters.

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  6. Chivan does not like that fact that i give importance to Uma. I know Him very well. Yes. Chivan is the creator of Uma. My appa, Chivane, Be cool. I am with you always. I know you are the OMNIPOTENT. I wont forget Him ever. He was the first one to stimulate my brain. He is my Father. I respect Him a lot.

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  7. YOU and Me ..both are illusion. Human Body is illusion. Life is Illusion. Death is illusion. The whole earth is illusion. Father and Mother are illusions. “Ellaaame Maayai”…SAB MAAYA HAI…We are shown only the 5 elements…the Creator is an ILLUSION.

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  8. Tamizhai kaakavo, Tamizh makkalai kaakavo,Tamizh MaNNai kaakavo, oru prachanaiykku theervu kaanavo tharkolai thaan mudivu entraal “vetri” enbathai irunthu paarkka mudiyuma? Tamizh makkal unarchi miguthiyaal tharkolai seyyum eNNaithai kaivittu uyirudan irunthu poraadi vetri kaaNa vendum. Committing suicide is cowardly act of the weak minded people. Outside brave but inside coward.. Life is struggle but only after crossing the tunnel we see the light. We should not care about the distance. Thousands of years had been spent to create one language called Tamizh..why should anyone end his life to solve problems? Heart and Brain should be strong. Almighty is watching us all..our struggle. He knows about justice. He pays attention. Our deeds are noticed.

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  9. Mrs. Sushma Swaraj, BJP has committed a crime of inviting the cruel hearted Raj Pakshe to india, here, i would like to remember the struggle of tamizhans for so many thousands of years to survive and keep alive the language TAMIZH. She should now ask Raj Pakshe one question, Does he follow buddism really?.. She has become a sinner also now with Pakshe…By destroying and damaging mosques, churches and temples in Ilankai(srilanka) Raj pakshe had proved that he wants only buddism on this earth to survive. The matter is not Buddha or Buddism but the good morals the ways that tell humans how to be human..thats it…there is a need to extract the good things from Holy books without selfishness. So many Saints of all the religions had written for us all good messages..Religion is not important…Chivan (shiva) is not important but the good things which are written in his name should be taken. Over-obsession does not help us all. We all should be broad minded to read all the valuable books in the name of religion and be friendly. Debate and discussion should be friendly that too with SMILE and HAPPINESS. Finally the small organ called HEART wins always!

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  10. Pachai in tamizh means green. Pachupathi (pashupati) is the LORD the SUN the dancing king showing his aura sometimes, he is protecting the green plants and also protecting plant eating animals (herbivorus) and he is kind towards flesh eating animals (carnivorus) also… So, he is always kind and compassionate. SUN is named as our FATHER but he is far away..UMA is very near with caring attitude and motherly affection…But, we humans and animals cant live without both APPA (fire) and AMMA (water). Kanya is fire, heat and kumaari is water and rain. whether we call them UMMISA or CHIVACHANKARI (shivshankari) both are same… Two in One.

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    • Father PIRAMAN has always been ILLUSION..still he is. He alongwith Kumari has atlast made all the humanbeings so emotional..The couple should understand now that they are loved by all. We show our affection in many ways..LOVE AND OBSESSION.

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  11. KANYAKUMARI is MOTHER..very near to all the newborn babies. Baby understands very well about its mother not father. Only when mother tells about who is its father it comes to know..so mother is special “UMMISA” (always respected given special place in all the faiths of this world but still not touched by anyone so pure and holy )…but Father is far away from us all… the mysterious, the ever stimulating… full of secrets, strange but very near, serving, generous, great, PARAMAN, (PA, RAAMAN ) PACHUPATHI (the protector of all animals both domestic and wild) KATHIRAVAN (kathir – rays, avan-he) (kathi..Raavan) CHOORIYAN (SUN)…(choo-heat…ri – she..ayan – sir or master)…PARAMAPATHAM (Prophet)…. PIRAPPUAACHI (Prophesy) PIR”APPU” and AACHI..both Father and Mother…Property (pira-para-thee)….so many words have relation with SUN and TAMIZH.

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    • PIRAPATHAM….”AATHAM” without beginning and the endless one the PROPHET…the SUN…PIRAMAN..the ILLUSION…the RA…..AAN THEE..the male fire…PEN THEE (pentir)..the female fire… the MYRA (meera) my – moisture or water or steam and heat one RAATHAI (full of flame)..KUPAALAN (gopal) (the protector of water) KURAVAN (the one who is having both ku..water and ra – heat. Maikanaathan (Meghanath) the one who is having water inside the clouds.

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    • I said, that you are generous and kind hearted, serving. You could not understand me well. I said that you are creating uma. OK. you are ALL and EVERYTHING. I got it. Now, Be Calm.

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  12. One who has washed his hands with blood of innocent tamizhans should not come to india.. Rajapakshe..can anyone say that he has done humanitarian work? Tamizhans are not given rights and opportunities they deserve. Sinhalese are the illeagal immigrants who entered into the land of tamizhans so cunningly but with smile heart full of dirt to destroy them all. Rajapakshe had done lots and lots of crimes against HUMANITY. How can he even touch the word “buddha” the another meaning is “non-violence”. His whole body should tremble if he ever thinks about the crimes he committed in the past. He should not even smile. He should fall down on the feet of Buddha to forgive him. His sins would never be get washed. He would see his next birth full of turmoil. Tamizhans had cursed him still cursing would continue. India is also going to fill its body with the innocent blood of tamizhans by inviting this criminal. STOP exploiting tamizhans.

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  13. The word “RAB” ..the Almighty has been formed from the tamizh word for that ominipresent power “PIRAPPU”…here “Appu” means father (appan, appa). This “Appu” is also pronounced as “Abbu” or “Abba”. Everything had especially all the words of all the languages relation with tamizh language. One day the whole world would accept this fact. KANYAKUMARI, the cradle of civilisation.

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    • When the evil “uranium” ever touch this holiest “Kanyakumari” she shall start cursing the whole earth. She has been so far observing silently. She and He were the reasons for creating tamizhans and they should call all of them inside. Put an end to all the pain and problems..they had suffered a lot and tolerated everything. No more tears..cant satisfy anyone all are full of greediness and exploitative natured.

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  14. People are said to be suffering from “Amnesia” in india the fact is they dont forget anything..so many scandals very much famous infact notorious so far gifted by political parties..but innocent people are helpless because the law of this land does not probe anything properly. Comman Man is standing inside the centre of circle and all are clapping hands the place is Circus company. Comedy but infact tragedy.

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  15. The Govt. should not try to divert the people’s attention from koodankulam nuclear project by creatiing sensational news like price hike of diesel this and that. Without providing all the safety pressures they should not fill up uranium, slightest leakage would damage the living cells of the human body..the innocent people are not frogs and rats of laboratory to be tested. Why the govt.not building such plants near Marina beach, Eliots beach and Besant Nagar beach, if they ever, then only the people especially those who support the plant would come to the streets to protect. All about selfishness. Innocent and poor people are always tested. It seems there is always conspiracy against tamizh community. Just like they snatched katchatheevu and made the sinhalese to attack and kill the tamizhans they are now targetting again how to finish the people. There is no need of electricity when people are having horrible nightmare. Where would the people go if there is leakage of uranium? Answers are needed.

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  16. Message for all the Koodankulam Project
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    Growing PALM TREES around upto 10 metres would stop the radiation from the nuclear plant if there is danger. MIND THIS… Because PALM TREES (panai maram) have the abilities to control the leak of radiation for upto maximum 3 hours. The radiation would start burning the tree first and then cross the border..so by planting more and more palm trees would make the people relieved from their mental agony. Start planting this tree from now onwards.

    Also, the people of koodankulam and nearby villagers should plant this wonder and divine tree near their homes. This tree should occupy the area of koodankulam and nearby villages. By doing this it will work as “FIRST AID”.. “Messiah” and “protect” the people. so, people can also escape from tragedy.

    Can anyone pass this message to the people of koodankulam and the plant????

    All the nuclear plants should take this message seriously and do the needful at the earliest. No one knows even now PALM TREE can tolerate harmful effects of poison mixed in the air.

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    • Just like “Thunder Obsorber” (Idi Thaangi) this palm tree can obsorb the radiation leakage. This tree is the “Thala Vritcham” (the supreme tree) of Tamizhnadu. From the cradle to the graveyard..from birth to death… this tree has been the protector of people from germs and bacteria especially soon after the delivery of a child, the leaves of this palm tree are kept around the mother and child to protect them from virus attack and also this tree is used to burn the dead bodies also in the graveyard. This tree is very very ancient in nature.. useful in many ways. Ancient practice was to give the newborn child before mother’s milk …palm sugar full of antibiotic qualities. Even now people follow this practice in deep south villages and cities of tamizhnadu. Just try to understand the good qualities of this tree full of wonderful information. Knowledge is powerful.

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    • Villagers build their huts using the leaves of this tree to protect themselves from harmful effects of poisonous matters mixed in the air and also it protect them from the strong and powerful rays of sun. The leaves of this tree are very very strong. No tree even banyan tree cant tolerate the radiation eventhough it is called as the “immortal tree”. Banyan (Aala Maram) and Sacred Fig (Aracha Maram) trees are used only for meditation and known for giving shelter for birds. We will learn about “ozone” and banyan tree later on. Can Tamizhnadu stop constructing flats and apartments and plant more and more trees and make the state a “Green state”? GLOBAL WARMING.

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  17. Tamizhan mattum thaan than nalanukkaaka poraadi kolla vendum, veru yaarum poraada maataargal, athisayamaai veru yaarum tamizhanukkaaka poraadinaal athu vithiyaasamaai thaan paarkkapadum…ellaame suyanalathodu thaan tamizh mannirrkku varuvaargal..ithu thaan marukka mudiyaatha unmai..poraadi petra payanai anubavikka pala koottangal ingu undu…namithaavum, hansikaavuma poraaduvaargal? pananthai surandavuthu mattum avargalin kuri. Aniyaayam…Palar seyyum paavangalukku udanukkudan pathil kadavul koduppathillai..amaithiyaaga vedikkai paarthu marupiraviyil kodukkumaai irukkum…ellaavatrikkum oru ellai undu.

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  18. Na sirf shahron mein par gaon gaon mein har ek kissan, har ek coolie, har ek rickshawwala agar “Politics” ke baare mein jaanne laga hai to is ke kaaran “Annaji” aur “Arvind Kejriwalji” hain. Bharat Bhushan aur kiran ji bhi bahut awaaz de rahe hain. Har ek ke man mein saawaal hai, logon mein “Jaagruti” paida karaane mein kai log aaj kal din aur raat mehnat karne mein uthre hain. Yeh tareef ki baat hai. Kyonki hamse hai “Government” hamse bane hain desh ko chalaanewaale. Hamaare vote se hi hamaare khoon aur paseene se hi government chalta hai. Hame tukraana acchi baat nahi hai. Desh ke log aur Govt. ke beech mein shaanthi swaroop se har ek problem ko mittaane ka thareeka sochna zaroori hai. Chaahe party ke naam kuch bhi ho progress har ek insaan ki aur saath saath desh ki bhi hona zaroori hai. Dil khush ho to sab khush. Jaan hai to jahaan hai. India pehle kissan (farmer) aur Machuwaaron (fishermen) ke desh tha…aaj dono hi musibat mein hain. Kya unki bhi awaaz ham zara sune..un hi ki zameen par aaj ham sab khade hain.

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  19. Har ek vyakthi jo uranium ke khilaaf laraai mein uthra hai uski karthavya banta hai ki woh pehle Arvind Kejriwal ji ko shukriya ada karein. “Insaaniyat ki baat hai”..Kyonki yeh zindagi aur maut ke beech ki masla ban chuka hai. Uranium ek haanikaarak zahreela vasthu hai usse insaan ko kuch faaida nahi hai..zara si uranium hawa mein milne se kai tarah ke bimaari failaatha hai. Pehle se tamizhnaadu mein kalpaakkam mein nuclear plant hai to baar baar isi state mein khatra failaane waali nuclear plant ko kyon shuru kar rahe hain..kya tamizhnadu ko koi nahi chahta usko shamshaan ghaat bananaa chahte hain kya? jis din pehle pathhar koodankulam mein dhaala gaya yeh plant banaane ke liye usi din se logon mein dhar hai..bahut saalon se bholebaale log lar rahe hain. Mujhe yakeen hai duniya waale nuclear khilaaf awaaz denge…yen prithvi ko mitta dega ek din.

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    • People of Tamizhnadu are thanking Mr.Arvind Kejriwal for making the whole world aware of the hazardous effect of uranium. Mr.Udaykumar is not a criminal to be arrested.It is the duty of every citizen of india not only tamizhan to stop the nuclear plant from functioning. Tamizhnadu is multi-cultural state, here not only tamizhans are living marathis, gujratis, saurashtrans, biharis, assamese, manipuris, telugus, malayaalis, punjabis and people from the whole world are living. So, all of them selflessly should also raise their voice against uranium. Its after all a matter of survival. Tamizhnadu is not only facing uranium threat but also tsunami threat all the time. So, we should give importance to the emotions of people here.

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