In this article, I’m reporting on
Prelude
Aging clocks = algorithms that compute biological age from a set of measurable markers. Why are they interesting to us? And what makes one better than another?
The human lifespan is too long for us to do experiments with anti-aging interventions and then evaluate the results based on whether our subjects live longer. The usefulness of an aging clock is that it allows us to quickly evaluate the effects on aging of an intervention, so we can learn from the experiment and move on to try a variant, or something different.
Many researchers are skeptical about using clock algorithms to evaluate anti-aging interventions. I think they are right to be asking deep questions; I also think that in the end the epigenetic clocks in particular will be vindicated for this application.
It may seem obvious that we want the clock to tell us something about biological aging at the root level. We are entranced by the sophisticated statistical techniques that bioinformaticists use to derive a clock based on hundreds of different omic factors. But all that has to start with a judgment about what’s worth looking at.
Ponder this: The biostatisticians who create these clocks are optimizing them to predict chronological age with higher and higher correlation coefficient r. But if they achieve a perfect score of r=1.00, the clock becomes useless. It cannot be used to tell a 60-year-old with the metabolism of a 70-year-old from another 60-year-old with the metabolism of a 50-year-old, because both will register 60 years on this “perfect” clock.
It’s time to back up and ask what we think aging is and where it comes from, then optimize a clock based on the answer. As different people have different answers, we will have different clocks. And we can’t objectively distinguish which is better. It depends on whose theory we believe.
Straw man: AI trained to impute age from facial photos now has an accuracy of about 3½ years, in the same ballpark with methylation clocks. If we used these algorithms to evaluate anti-aging interventions, we would conclude that the best treatments we have are facelifts and hair dye.
Brass tacks: People with different positions about the root cause of aging all agree that (a) aging manifests as damage, and (b) methylation and demethylation of DNA take place under the body’s tight and explicit site-by-site regulation.
But what is the relationship between the methylation and the damage? There are three possible answers.
- (from the “programmed” school) Aging is programmed via epigenetics. The body downregulates repair mechanisms as we get older, while upregulating apoptosis and inflammation to such an extent that they are causes of significant damage.
- (from the “damage” school) The body accumulates damage as we get older. The body tries to rescue itself from the damage by upregulating repair and renewal pathways in response to the damage.
- (also from the “damage” school) Part of the damage the body suffers is dysregulation of methylation. Methylation changes with age are stochastic. Methylation becomes more random with age.
My belief is that (1), (2), and (3) are all occurring, but that (1) predominates over (2). The “damage” school of aging would contend that (1) is excluded, and there are only (2) and (3).
How can these three types of changes contribute to a clock?
(3) makes a crummy clock, because, by definition, it’s full of noise and varies widely from person to person and from cell to cell. There is no dispute that a substantial portion (~50%) of age-related changes in DNA methylation are stochastic. But these changes are not useful and, in fact, most of the algorithms used to construct methylation clocks tend to exclude type (3) changes. I won’t say anything more about stochastic changes in methylation, but I’ll acknowledge that there is more to be said and refer you to this article if you’re interested in methylation entropy.
If you are from the “damage” school, you don’t believe in (1), so this leaves only type (2). If changes in methylation are the body trying to rescue itself, then any intervention that makes the body’s methylation “younger” is actually dialing down protection repair. You expect that reducing methylation age will actually hasten aging and shorten life expectancy. You have every reason to distrust a clinical trial or lab experiment that uses methylation age as criterion for success.
| White cell count is used as a reliable indication of cancer. As cancer progresses, white cell count increases. The higher a person’s white cell count, the closer he is to death. So let’s build a “cancer clock” based on white blood count, and let’s use it to evaluate anti-cancer interventions. The best intervention is a chemical agent that kills the most white blood cells. It reliably sets back the “cancer clock” to zero and beyond. But we’re puzzled when we find that people who get this intervention die rapidly, even though the cancer clock predicted that they were completely cured. The problem is that white blood cells are a response to cancer, not its cause. |
If you are from the “programmed” school, you think that (1) predominates, and that a clock can be designed to prefer type (1) changes to (2) and (3). Then methylation clocks measure something akin to the source of aging, and we can expect that if an intervention reduces methylation age, it is increasing life expectancy.
The fact that methylation clocks trained on chronological age alone (with no input concerning mortality or disease state) turn out to be better predictors of life expectancy than age alone is a powerful validation of methylation technology. But only if you believe (for other reasons) that methylation is an upstream cause of aging. You could expect this from either type (1) or type (2) methylation changes.
I believe that aging is an epigenetic life program, and that methylation is one of several epigenetic mechanisms by which it is implemented. That’s why I have faith in methylation clock technology.
Conversely, people who believe that the root cause of aging is accumulated damage are right to discount evidence from epigenetic clocks as it pertains to the efficacy of particular treatments. As in the cancer example above, treatments that create a younger methylation age can actually be damaging.
The basis for my belief that aging is an epigenetic program is the subject of my two books, and was summarized several years ago in this blog. I first wrote about methylation as a cause of aging in this space in 2013. For here and now, I’ll just add that we have direct evidence for changes of type (1). Inflammatory cytokines are up-regulated with age. Apoptosis is upregulated with age. Antioxidants are downregulated with age. DNA repair enzymes and autophagy enzymes and protein-folding chaperones are all down-regulated with age. All these are changes in gene expression, presumably under epigenetic control.
Which is more basic, the proteome or the methylome?
For reasons I have elaborated often in the past, I adopt a perspective on aging as an epigenetic program. I think of methylation clocks as close to the source, because methylation is a dispersed epigenetic signal. But the proteome is, by definition, the collection of all signals transmitted in blood plasma, including all age signals and transcription factors that help to program epigenetics cell-by-cell. The proteome is generated by transcription of the DNA body-wide, which transcription is controlled by methylation among other epigenetic mechanisms. So one might argue from this that the methylome is further upstream than the proteome. On the other hand, methylation is just one among many epigenetic mechanisms, and the proteome is the net result of all of them. On this basis, I would lean toward a proteomic clock as being a more reliable surrogate for age in clinical experiments, even better than methylation clocks. It is a historic fact, however, that methylation clocks have a 6-year headstart. Methylation testing is entering the mainstream, with a dozen labs offering individual readings of methylation age, priced to attract end-users.
Let’s see if proteomic clocks can catch up. The new technology is based on SOMAscan assays, and so far is marketed to research labs, not individuals or doctors, and it is priced accordingly. The only company providing lab services is SOMAlogic.com of Boulder, CO. “SOMAscan is an aptamer-based proteomics assay capable of measuring 1,305 human protein analytes in serum, plasma, and other biological matrices with high sensitivity and specificity.” [ref] As I understand it, they have a microscope slide with 1305 tiny dots, each containing a different aptamer attached to a fluorescent dye. An aptamer is like an engineered antibody, optimized by humans to mate to a particular protein. Thus 1305 different proteins can be measured by applying a sample (in our case, blood plasma) to the slide, chemically processing the slide to remove aptamers that have not found their targets, then photographing the slide and analyzing the readout from the fluorescent dye.
Aptamers are synthetic molecules that can be raised against any kind of target, including toxic or non immunogenic ones. They bind their target with affinity similar or higher than antibodies. They are 10 fold smaller than antibodies and can be chemically-modified at will in a defined and precise way. [NOVAPTech company website]
Curiously, aptamers are not usually proteins but oligonucleotides, cousins of RNA, simply because the chemical engineers who design and optimize these structures have had good success with the RNA backbone. The SOMA in SOMAlogic stands for “Slow Off-rate Modified Aptamers”, meaning that the aptamers have been modified to make them stick tight to their target and resist dissociating.
An internal proteome-methylome clock?
It’s possible that there is a central clock that tells the body “act your age”. I have cited evidence that there is such a clock in the hypothalamus, and that it signals the whole body via secretions [2015, 2017].
Another possibility is a dispersed clock. The body’s cells manufacture proteins based on their epigenetic state, the proteins are dispersed in the blood, some of these are received by other cells and affect the epigenetic state of those cells. This is a feedback loop with a whole-body reach, and it is a good candidate for a clock mechanism in its own right.
| I’m interested in the logic and the mathematics of such a clock in the abstract. Any feedback loop can be a time-keeping mechanism. Such a mechanism is _____Epigenetics ⇒ Protein secretion ⇒ Transcription factors ⇒ Epigenetics This is difficult to document experimentally, but it is an attractive hypothesis because it would explain how the body’s age can be coordinated system-wide without a single central authority, which would be subject to evolutionary hijacking, and might be too easily affected by individual metabolism, environment, etc. But the body’s aging clock must be both robust and homeostatic. If it is thrown off by small events, it must return to the appropriate age. So my question—maybe there are readers who would like to explore this with me—is whether it is logically possible to have a timekeeping mechanism that is both homeostatic and progressive, without an external reference by which it can be reset. |
Last year, Lehalier and a Stanford-based research group jumpstarted the push toward a methylomic aging clock with this publication [my write-up here]. The same group has a follow-up, published a few weeks ago. The new work steps beyond biologically agnostic statistics to incorporate information about known functions of the proteins that they identified last year. The importance of this is twofold: It suggests targets for anti-aging interventions. And it supports the creation of a clock composed of upstream signals that have been verified to have an effect on aging. I argued in the long Prelude above that this is exactly what we want to know in order to have confidence in an algorithmic clock as surrogate to evaluate anti-aging interventions.
They work with a database I had not known about before: the Human Ageing Genomic Resources Database. HAGR indexes genes related to aging and summarizes studies that document their functions. Some highlights of the proteins they identified:
- Inflammatory pathways are right up there in importance. No surprise here. But if you can use inflammatory epigenetic changes to make an aging clock, you have a solid beginning.
- Sex hormones that change with age turn out to be even more prominent in their list. The first several involve FSH and LH. These are hormones connected with women’s ovarian cycles; but after menopause, when they are not needed, their prominence shoots up, and not just once-a-month, but always on. Men, too, show increases in LH and FSH with age, though they are more subtle. I first became aware of LH and FSH as bad actors from the writings of Jeff Bowles more than 20 years ago.
- “GDF15 It is a protein belonging to the transforming growth factor beta superfamily. Under normal conditions, GDF-15 is expressed in low concentrations in most organs and upregulated because of injury of organs such as such as liver, kidney, heart and lung.” [Wikipedia] “GDF15 deserves a story of its own. The authors identify it as the single most useful protein for their clock, increasing monotonically across the age span. It is described sketchily in Wikipedia as having a role in both inflammation and apoptosis, and it has been identified as a powerful indicator of heart disease. My guess is that it is mostly Type 1, but that it also plays a role in repair. GDF15 is too central a player to be purely an agent of self-destruction.” [from my blog last year]
- Insulin is a known modulator of aging (through caloric restriction and diabetes).
- Superoxide Dismutase (SOD2) is a ubiquitous antioxidant that decreases with age, leaving the body open to ROS damage.
- Motilin is a digestive hormone. Go figure. Until we understand more, my recommendation would be to leave this one out of the aging clock algorithm.
- Sclerostin is a hormone for bone growth. It may be related to osteoporosis, and well worth inclusion.
- RET and PTN are called “proto-oncogenes” and are important for development, but associated with cancer later in life.

Which proteins are most relevant?
The Horvath clocks have been created using “supervised” optimization, which involves human intelligence that oversees the application of sophisticated algorithms. But what happens if you automate the “supervised” part? On the one hand, you must expect mistakes and missed opportunities that you wouldn’t have with human supervision. On the other hand, once you have a machine learning algorithm, you can apply it over and over to different subsets of the data, produce hundreds of different clocks, and choose those that perform best. That’s what Johnson and co-authors have done in the current paper. They describe creating 1565 different clocks based on different subsets of a universe of 529 proteins. In my opinion, their most important work combines biochemical knowledge with statistical algorithms. The work using statistical algorithms alone are much less interesting, for reasons detailed in the Prelude above.
Summary
This new offering from Lehalier and Johnson is a great step forward in that
- proteins in the blood are a broader picture of epigenetics than methylation alone
- specific proteins are linked to specific interventions that are reliably connected to aging in the right direction. Crucially, the clock is designed to have type (1) epigenetic changes (from the Prelude above) and to exclude type (2)
Next steps
- to calibrate the clock not with calendar age but with future mortality. This would require historic blood samples, and it is the basis of the Levine/Horvath PhenoAge clock.
- to optimize the clock separately for different age ranges or, equivalently, to use non-linear fitting techniques in constructing the clock algorithm
- to commercialize the Aptomer technology, so that it is available more widely and more cheaply
Elysium Index
Elysium is a Boston company advised by Len Guarente of MIT and Morgan Levine (formerly Horvath’s student, now at Yale). They have an advanced methylation clock available to the public, which they claim is more accurate than any so far. Other clocks are based on a few hundred CpG sites that change most reliably with age, but the Index clock uses 150,000 separate sites (!) which, they claim, offers more stability. The Horvath clocks can be overwhelmed by a single CpG site that is measured badly. Elysium claims that variations from one day to the next or one lab slide to the next tend to average out over such a large number of contributions.
I have been talking to Elysium in connection with the DataBETA project, and I am impressed that they have done some homework that other labs have not done. They compare the same subject in different slides. They store samples and freeze them and compare results to fresh samples. They compare different clocks using saliva and blood.
I wish I could say more but Elysium Index is proprietary. There is a lot I have not been told, and there is more that I know that I have been asked not to reveal. I don’t like this. I wish that all aging research could be open sourced so that researchers could learn from one another’s work.
Two other related papers
DeepMAge is a new methylation clock, published just this month, based on more sophisticated AI algorithms instead of the standard 20th-century statistics used by Horvath and others thus far. Galkin and his (mostly Hong Kong, mostly InSilico) team are able to get impressive accuracy in tracking chronological age. This technology has forensic applications, in which evidence of someone’s calendar age is relevant, independent of senescence. And the technology may someday be the basis for more accurate predictions of individual life expectancy. But, as I have argued above, a good clock for evaluating anti-aging measures must look at more than statistics. Correlation is not the same as causation, and only detailed reference to the biochemistry can give confidence that we have found causation.
Biohorology is a review paper from some of this same InSilico team together with some prominent academics, describing the latest crop of aging clocks. The ms is long and detailed, yet it never addresses the core issue that I raise in the Prelude above, about the need to distinguish upstream causes of aging from downstream responses to damage.
The beginning of the ms contains a gratuitous and outdated dismissal of programmed aging theories.
“Firstly, programmed aging contains an implicit contradiction with observations, since it requires group selection for elderly elimination to be stronger than individual selection for increased lifespan.”
Personally, I bristle at reading statements like this. which ignore an important message of my own work and, more broadly, ignore the broadened understanding of evolution that has emerged over the last four decades.
“Secondly, in order for the mechanism to come into place, natural populations should contain a significant fraction of old individuals, which is not observed either (Williams, 1957).”
This statement was the basis not just of Williams’s 1957 theory, but more explicitly of the Medawar theory 5 years earlier. Neither of these eminent scientists could have known that their conjecture about the absence of senescence in the wild would be thoroughly disproven by field studies in the 1990s, The definitive recent work on this subject is [Jones, 2014].
Take-home message
For the purpose of evaluating anti-aging treatments, the ideal biological clock should be created with these two techniques:
- It should be trained on historic samples where mortality data is available, rather than current samples where all we know is chronological age, and
- Components should be chosen “by hand” to assure all are upstream causes of aging rather than downstream responses to damage. (Type 1 from analysis above.)
Discussion
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Don't be so quick to discount motilin signalling as an important finding from the Stanford group. Ghrelin gets implicated in aging related things all the time, and it's closely related.
I think it will be useful and interesting for you to know the following. Of all the elements, only hydrogen has memory; the hydrogen atom has an information field structure that has 2.3 kilobytes of memory. This is similar to a person who has a Soul that controls all processes. The hydrogen atom is a part of organic molecules and the structure of these compounds is created by the command of God and the Creator through the hydrogen atom. The hydrogen information field perceives commands through the information field and transmits this impact through energy fields - a magnetic field and an electric field. Thus, the whole variety of molecular organic compounds is created.
Information from the Creator. The human soul is created in the cosmic place of creation of human souls. After that, the Soul is placed on planets with biological life. We live on Earth from 5 to 12 cycles. In between, the Human Soul undergoes additional training in the afterlife. God is teaching. After a person ends his life cycles, a person's Soul is transferred to a certain alien civilization, where the person's soul lives endlessly or is destroyed by the Creator for its sins. The purpose of man's stay on Earth is to learn the caution of life. For training, a person on Earth is given diseases, various events, the opportunity to partially cognize the world. To accelerate education on Earth, representatives of the alien civilization Shambhala created Bibles. It will never be calm on Earth, thus human learning is accelerated.
We know as much as the Creator wants to give us information. We miss the opportunity to know the world through the information systems of the Creator, the Universe, God, Earth, Shambhala ... Our knowledge through trial and error gives very little information. Unfortunately, many are not admitted to the top-level source of information. Reasoning at the level of trial and error does not allow us to know the higher laws and regulations of the structure of our world. Of the field structures, the information field occupies the highest level, which can direct the actions of the magnetic field, then the magnetic field can control the actions of the electric field. From this it follows that the correct thought and spoken by those who are admitted to control, governs energy fields and matter. When we change genes, we disrupt the natural course of control - from thought to matter. The Creator punishes for such actions. Most medicine goes exactly this wrong way. It will be a long time before scientists begin to understand the erroneousness of their actions in the field of genetics, but they will cause a lot of problems during this time.
That’s not true. We could not imagine that but one day David Sinclair told us about the molecule called NAD. Today we are able to super easily buy it’s boosters. Then we figured out Ca AKG, which significantly extended the lifespan of rats and kept them amazingly healthy during their healthspan. It’s very rational to think tomorrow, day after tomorrow or after several month Dr Katcher will tell us about the miraculous molecule which will not only slow but actually reverse the aging process. I used to study a Kabbalah and was under the same “regulations” and thoughts. That’s wrong. Do not think the creator sits somewhere in the sky and thinks what to tell us, please.
I will tell only part of the truth. The Soul is immortal, but some Souls are destroyed by the Creator for sins. Jesus was a man of the Earth and after leaving the Earth he left for his extraterrestrial civilization of a high level of development. Twenty years ago, I met a man of extraordinarily high ability who was suggested by one of the alien civilizations to become the new resurrected Jesus. He refused, since before that he had traveled all over space for 20 years and was preparing for life, after leaving Earth, in his most advanced alien civilization, which followed the instructions of the Creator. Man will never see the Creator. The information is given to expand the knowledge of the world.
According to ISD (diagtor.com.ua), the human soul lives for many trillions of years. On Earth, the Soul lives from 5 to 12 cycles and leaves its biological body every time after death. After staying on Earth, a person lives in his alien civilization in accordance with his destiny forever. The fate of everyone is different and the civilizations where a person will live will be different in their development. On Earth, with rejuvenation, a person will live as long as it is written in fate. In order to prolong life, it is necessary to implement another doctrine - the doctrine of life extension. Rejuvenation and life extension depend only on the Creator.
Please note that the lifetime on Earth depends on the structure of the consumed water. When consuming ordinary old water, a person does not live for more than 100 years; when consuming water with 44 molecules in a cluster, a person lives no more than 122 years; when consuming water with 33 molecules in a cluster, a person does not live for more than 182 years. The structure of water is one of the main reasons for the accelerated death of a living organism.
Experiments are now being carried out with stabilized MAS malic acid, which is energized using the ISD technology. The first results show that when the grains are wetted with MAS, the growth of grain and their yield is significantly accelerated. The idea is that MAS suppresses all infection and stimulates grain growth and increases its energy output.
During the growth phase, the epigenetic clock is shown to advance at a very rapid pace. But during the intervention in an aged individual by OSK factors/young blood plasma which can be considered as growth factors, the epigenetic clock is shown to reverse rather than advance. That can be an indication that there is an optimal level of cpg density at peak maturity/youth.
https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/37365788/LU-DISSERTATION-2020.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
Yuancheng Lu's PhD thesis. He is Sinclair's student who published the latest OSK driven rejuvenation study. I like the thesis very much. Gives a nice concise explanation about the mechanism of aging (digital information in DNA versus analog information in epigenetics) also a nice history of the recent rejuvenation advances from Belmonte's 2016 paper.
I like elements of this idea but it clearly isn't all right. For example, epigenetic dysregulation as a result of (past) DNA damage should be random, but it ain't. Secondly, the additional methylation is posited to occur at or near sites of repair, but this doesn't match the findings of their more recent work. So part of the puzzle. But certainly not the whole picture.
I think their idea is that epigenetic maintenance factors are recruited to sites of double strand breaks thus causing slow erosion of of epigenetic information at sites where it is highly needed
This anti-aging interventions can only have temporary effects. The organism will "adapt" in time to such interventions and the antiging effects will fade.
This is the fate of all interventions to an organism. There are only 2 possibilities: the organism will be destroyed by the intervention or the organism will adapt and the effect of intervention will fade away in time
This effect will fade in time because the organism will learn to evade the signals that reset its epigenetic clock? I don't think so, but we will find out, as, with the help of Didier Corneille, we have started a study wherein we will keep giving rats elixir at regular intervals, or according to some criterion, like levels of proinflammatory enzymes, or grip strength, so long as they live. There may be a limit to the number of times rejuvenations can take place, or there may not. No one can say at this point, but we believe we can reset the epigenetic clock and the body will never learn to evade this trick - but we'll see.
Harold doesn't yet believe that all men must die. I am trying to inform him that it is not the first death that is as significant as the second one. Mercy to all.
Floretin has spoken before of his belief that aging cannot be reversed until certain toxins like heavy metals are removed from the body. Cadmium for example is troubling - kind of like taking out metal fillings from your teeth - is it best to leave them be, or extract them with the danger of contaminating other tissues? We can hope that a youthful body will have sufficient detox ability to overcome build up of heavy metals, for a few centuries at least.
Truthfully how long of a life can a (wo)man endure? My sister asked if she would still have to work if she regained her youth, of course, I replied. She wasn't so happy about that extension. My hope is that with long lives we will begin to treat the Earth as the treasure she is and at the same time go out and conquer the galaxy. We may be the only life, and only those with very long lives are suitable for the decade and century-long journeys and those who wait for their return.
Harod! I don't think those who live a long time and remain young will have to worry about working more than a decade or two...Haven't you heard about the miracle of compound interest?
" My sister asked if she would still have to work if she regained her youth, of course, I replied."
This depends on investments.
SP500 index doubles in value approximately every 7 years.
A 3% annual withdrawal rate, means it is extremely unlikely to run out, and the value of your assets will increase dramatically over time.
At 1% annual withdrawal it is practically impossible to run out of money, unless global economy permanently collapses and civilization comes to an end.
A really wealthy person makes more from their investments in a month than the average working person makes in a lifetime from their work.
Compound interest really is one of the wonders of the world.
Heavy metal accumulation would be highly problematic to long lived apex predators like whales. Yet these manage to live for centuries without problem. Do they have additional mechanisms to deal with this?
There are also other organisms like certain sharks that again last for centuries.
Do you all think that by 2025 we will have enough knowledge to at least guess, or try, particular plasmapheresis protocols along with mild supplementation with T or growth factors that will show promise?
When would be the earliest you would try these protocols in the expectation that the cellular milieu (or Ermakov's "soul") might be aided in longevity or quality of life?
No, Palamas, that's not how aging works, it's not a defect it's a programmed progressive process, a continuation of development with the body doing more to kill itself with advancing years, progressive life-states where each succeeding life-stage has a higher mortality (there are rare exceptions). Cellular aging externally controlled (cell non-autonomous), and none of those remedies that slow 'cell aging' (basically all antiaging medicines) can significantly extend anything but old age, rejuvenation is the only path, returning your body to early adulthood (or earlier?) and pretty much keeping it that way. Sure but if you want Bible, Abraham bemoaned the fact that he was an old man at 130 years of life, while his father was a young man at the same age, so maybe live in youthful conditon for as long as Methusalah.
Let me just add that the early Church once Rome took it over could deal with 'resurrection' so they used Plato as an Authority that there was an immortal soul. What kind of authority is that, Plato knew hardly anything despite his great mind. The way the world works cannot be revealed by deep thinking, science is needed. Later Aristotle became the Church's 'authority' (People south of the equator walked on their heads) - and his 'soul' is very much a description of the nervous and endocrine system; he though only the part capable of logic was immortal. Again, would you take Aristotle as an expert in physics? No, he was mostly totally wrong, then why would you take him as an authority on the after-life? Why?
The entire Bible speaks about the soul/spirit living on after physical death. At the resurrection when Jesus returns then soul and body are reunited to either eternal life with God on a renewed earth or to eternal damnation. Aging began when mankind fell in paradise and no one lived past 1000 years. After the global flood only 8 persons carried the genes forward and thereafter lifespan dwindled to what it is today. Death is still an enemy even for Christians and so we highly value life, even unborn human life. So we support efforts to mitigate the effects of a sin-filled world and the diseases of aging. Your mission of immortality in this existing world won't and can't happen but the science discussed on this blog is interesting nonetheless. Happy new year to all.
Yes, this is correct and true. Thanks Rick. In any case, Christ defeated death and his new body is a prefiguration of our transfiguration if we live in Him - he alone defeated death because he lived in accordance with life and obedience to God His Father. So, if we do as he commanded us, and his commandment is eternal life, we will live in such a manner. Notice that his actions, deeds, thoughts and virtues were all beautiful and eternal - that's what He is. As a result, no follower of His could ever say that loving death and destruction is the path of a Christian, as you state.
I state these things to clarify the truth about the only man who trampled down death by his own death. How could the author of Life be a victim of corruption? Thus, he was raised for all, and us with him, if we love Him and keep his commandments (repentance is one of them!). Self preservation is not one of those commandments - thought I as a physician will help others in their sufferings just as God did. Love to all.
Where? The Hebrew Nashuma translated as 'soul' means 'breathe'. Jews didn't, don't believe in an immortal soul but in a resurrection, a belief that started about 200 years before Jesus. The 'immortal soul' came from Greek philosophers and is believed by most major religions on the planet. It is an ancient belief, but it has no evidence than the contents of the after-life vary from culture to culture. Jesus did not believe in an immortal soul but in resurrection - did you ever hear (by repute) say "I am the Resurrection and the Life?" Since there is not subjective time between death and resurrection, no time has passed for the deceased between death and resurrection ("Tomorrow you will sit...") and everyone will be resurrected. Those bound for destruction will regret their lives and feel remorse for their sins and only they be burnt as chaff tossed into a furnance, not everlasting Hell, just oblivion. The good would live forever with perfect bodies in the heavens. Not my words, but my objective as well.
I'm curious as to why death would be anything but a joyous event to Christians who are about to enter a better world?
I would like to suggest that the best aging clock would include both DNA methylation and histone modifications. I am constantly reminded of what happens to H3K27me3 in C. elegans upon reproductive maturity - a phenomenon that certainly seems to be causative.
I am disappointed that nobody has responded to my question/assertion about relative therapy times. After all, if a therapy obtains optimal efficacy in a given time in mice, we would need to have a good idea of how long to wait for the same results in humans. Relative life expectancy? Relative metabolic rates? Some other parameter?