Study says marijuana no gateway drug

December 4, 2006
Blog Entry, Brain & Behavior, Health

Marijuana is not a “gateway” drug that predicts or eventually leads to substance abuse, suggests a 12-year University of Pittsburgh study. Moreover, the study’s findings call into question the long-held belief that has shaped prevention efforts and governmental policy for six decades and caused many a parent to panic upon discovering a bag of pot in their child’s bedroom.

The Pitt researchers tracked 214 boys beginning at ages 10-12, all of whom eventually used either legal or illegal drugs. When the boys reached age 22, they were categorized into three groups: those who used only alcohol or tobacco, those who started with alcohol and tobacco and then used marijuana (gateway sequence) and those who used marijuana prior to alcohol or tobacco (reverse sequence).

Nearly a quarter of the study population who used both legal and illegal drugs at some point – 28 boys – exhibited the reverse pattern of using marijuana prior to alcohol or tobacco, and those individuals were no more likely to develop a substance use disorder than those who followed the traditional succession of alcohol and tobacco before illegal drugs, according to the study, which appears in this month’s issue of the American Journal of Psychiatry.

“The gateway progression may be the most common pattern, but it’s certainly not the only order of drug use,” said Ralph E. Tarter, Ph.D., professor of pharmaceutical sciences at the University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy and lead author of the study. “In fact, the reverse pattern is just as accurate for predicting who might be at risk for developing a drug dependence disorder.”

In addition to determining whether the gateway hypothesis was a better predictor of substance abuse than competing theories, the investigators sought to identify characteristics that distinguished users in the gateway sequence from those who took the reverse path. Out of the 35 variables they examined, only three emerged to be differentiating factors: Reverse pattern users were more likely to have lived in poor physical neighborhood environments, had more exposure to drugs in their neighborhoods and had less parental involvement as young children. Most importantly, a general inclination for deviance from sanctioned behaviors, which can become evident early in childhood, was strongly associated with all illicit drug use, whether it came in the gateway sequence, or the reverse.

While the gateway theory posits that each type of drug is associated with certain specific risk factors that cause the use of subsequent drugs, such as cigarettes or alcohol leading to marijuana, this study’s findings indicate that environmental aspects have stronger influence on which type of substance is used. That is, if it’s easier for a teen to get his hands on marijuana than beer, then he’ll be more likely to smoke pot. This evidence supports what’s known as the common liability model, an emerging theory that states the likelihood that someone will transition to the use of illegal drugs is determined not by the preceding use of a particular drug but instead by the user’s individual tendencies and environmental circumstances.

“The emphasis on the drugs themselves, rather than other, more important factors that shape a person’s behavior, has been detrimental to drug policy and prevention programs,” Dr. Tarter said. “To become more effective in our efforts to fight drug abuse, we should devote more attention to interventions that address these issues, particularly to parenting skills that shape the child’s behavior as well as peer and neighborhood environments.”

Indeed, according to the study, interventions focusing on behavior modification may be more effective prevention tactics than current anti-drug initiatives. For example, providing guidance to parents – particularly those in high-risk neighborhoods – on how to boost their caregiving skills and foster bonding with their children, could have a measurable effect on a child’s likelihood to smoke marijuana. Also, early identification of children who exhibit antisocial tendencies could allow for interventions before drug use even begins.

Although this research has significant implications for drug abuse prevention approaches, Dr. Tarter notes that the study has some limitations. First, as only male behaviors were studied, further investigation should explore if the results apply to women as well. Also, the examination of behaviors in phases beyond alcohol and marijuana consumption in the gateway series will be necessary.

From University of Pittsburgh Medical Center


Study says marijuana no gateway drug

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409 Responses to Study says marijuana no gateway drug

  1. Shitface May 4, 2014 at 9:52 am #

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  2. Rico Marsh (12115259) May 1, 2014 at 12:59 pm #

    Society in this day and age claims that the use of marijuana has a negative impact on the youth and they express that this ‘drug’ is addictive. I have to disagree since recent studies has proven that the use of this herb (yes, it’s a herb and not a drug in my opinion) has helped reduce the consumption of alcohol and cigarette smoking among youth (http://www.drugabuse.gov/drugpages/MTF.html).

    Through my experiences i believe that youth, especially students, needs ways to relax and relieve their stress. They usually turn to alcohol to do this and usually get into trouble because they drove being drunk or they got into a fight since alcohol makes people aggressive but cannabis on the other hand helps people ‘mellow out’. I know that most people use both alcohol and cannabis to have a good time but if people, especially the youth, are aware of the dangers of using both, they will realize it and improve to use it better to have a fun time. Recent studies also indicate that crime is reduced in states that have legalized the smoking of cannabis.

    Cannabis can be used to reduce the percentage of anorexia. Since smoking the ‘herb’ gives people an appetite, they will feel forced to eat and therefore gain weight. And since smoking cannabis makes you feel ‘high’, anorexic people will enjoy that feeling and keep on smoking.

    Although studies indicate that the smoking of cannabis is addictive, it is used for medical purposes. It helps cancer patients cope with the pain and it’s not that expensive as pain killers. If people smoke it now and then and at certain times, then they won’t get easily addicted and they will still be productive at work or school. I know studies show that the consumption of weed from dealers affect people’s health so why not legalize cannabis everywhere so that people won’t have to buy it at dealers, therefore they won’t buy crappy weed which affects their health.

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  6. darian b October 1, 2012 at 7:42 am #

    i.e. shut the fuck up, marijuanna saved my life and iv been using it for 16 years strait, never even wanted to do another drug, and just cuz they werent in captivity doesnt mean they werent telling the truth, y would they lie?

  7. Marion September 4, 2012 at 9:56 pm #

    How did the researchers know the young men were telling the truth about their use of other illegal drugs? The boys weren’t held in captivity in the same place and subjected to the same conditions i.e. this was not a fair test.

  8. VVR June 9, 2012 at 5:01 am #

    Cannabis is not a drug its medicine. Especially when vaporized. Its about time the general public recognizes it as such.

  9. Harding school (coosbay OR.) May 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    WEED IS THE SHIT GET ALL THAT BULLSHIT YOU KNOW OUT OF YOUR THICK SKULL OF YOURS, STOP BEING A FUCKING DUMB ASS RABBIT TURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    FUCK YOU!

  10. liam wright April 5, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    ok mark how bout you shut up

  11. Mark April 4, 2012 at 10:40 am #

    I’m glad you said that because that comment you made was very ignorant.

  12. Liam Wright April 4, 2012 at 10:39 am #

    Just kidding ive never touched it, im clean!!!!!

  13. Liam Wright April 4, 2012 at 10:26 am #

    I SMOKE A SHIT TON, AND I FUCKING LOVE THIS SHIT!!!!! NEVER BEEN CAUGHT AND NEVER WILL!!!! NIGGASSS!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Doyen March 31, 2012 at 10:54 pm #

    Your friends moved on to harder drugs because your friends wanted to do harder drugs. Smoking weed does not make you want to do other drugs, but wanting to do other drugs is the reason people do other drugs. Also there are many intelligent and successful people who smoke cannabis. But you never hear about those people because they don’t help the anti-pot movement. I don’t want to sound some kind of radical and like I only spout baseless conspiracy theories, but half the things most people know about cannabis is wrong. Sadly though, the burden of proof is on the pro-pot movement. People believe the governments lies and misleading statistics. Like they say most people who go to rehab do it for pot when most people who go are court-ordered to in order to avoid jail or go to avoid losing their jobs. Only about 9% of people become addicted and the withdrawal symptoms are mild so unless someone has an underlying cause for why they smoke they usually can quit easily without help. Also, marijuana does not make you stupid or lazy. If someone is lazy they will be lazy when they smoke. If someone has a hard time in school they will have a hard time in school, but that isnt to say that getting high wont make it hard to take in new information. It’s up to that person to take personal responsibility and understand that cannabis can alter short-term memory and that smoking 24/7 when you are having a hard time in school is not the best of ideas. They can only blame themselves for their own problems in life when they could have quit anytime they want.(Then again if they get arrested for possession and can’t get a job I blame the cops for that. Cannabis should be legal but I do concede that the user does have to take some responsibility for being caught in the first place.)

  15. Paul March 20, 2012 at 2:57 pm #

    I’m 16 and all of my friends started smoking weed 2 years ago. Now they’ve moved on to harder drugs such as xanax and heroine. Most of these kids are heavy drinkers too. I’ve managed to stay away from that because I have no interest in coming off as as unintellegent as they do. Plus, I don’t want my life cut short because of something stupid I did in highschool.

  16. smart March 19, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

    you used a program to quit weed? You are weak and watch too much TV weed is mentaly addictive just like TV or the Internet. You suck as a person.

  17. Cedric Wiley March 5, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Yep, f our Government, you have to realize within the next 30 years, maybe 40, everything will change, I’m positive that marijuana will be legalized withing the next 5, everyone will start to realize that the Government serves no purpose to us. It was established by the people, for the people, since over half of American’s want it legalize that have no choice. I mean, what it seems like they want to do is lock up half of America. Also realize, all you people who think this hurts our youth, you cannot hide the bad in the world from them, know that there are gangsters on every corner killing each other, know that there is a gun shop on every corner, know that there are porn stores on every corner, yet no one talks about those things. To compare any of those thing to marijuana is a joke that I laugh at every time I think about it. This is ridiculous, and until everyone sees that the government just want to control everything, nothing will ever change. REVOLUTION!

  18. rigster February 26, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

    31/2 centuries ago,my ancestor developed hemp paper,so fine that, not only was he granted the position of Director of the first U.S.Mint,his fondness for astronomy was immortalized on our nations flag.His paper press in Philadelphia made him a “patriot and Hero”(according to Ben Franklin).He is David Rittenhouse.
    Fast foreward to 2004,I am arrested and jailed for 6 months for using the same plant to treat a diagnosed psychological disorder.He was a patriot,I am unemployable(according to my piss test)

    sincerely go fuck yourself Uncle Sam,Michael Rittenhouse Rigby

  19. Steve February 16, 2012 at 12:05 pm #

    Nice marketing effort. Too bad your claims are not supported by science. Go sell your “Snake Oil” somewhere else.

  20. Elizabeth Pallett February 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm #

    Firstly, I do wish people would use the plants name and not the term used to demonise it by the US government. Its true name is Hemp, Cannabis is its common name, marijuana is Mexican for dirty tobacco, used to cause harm to those who have hurt you.

    There is no addiction with Hemp/Cannabis, no more than there is with salt or sugar. Cannabis is not harmful to anyone, in fact it is essential to health and well-being of all of us.

    Cannabis matches our endocannabinoid system exactly, it keeps the body in good working order, rebuilds cells including those in the brain, it kills of cancer and other invasive nasties.

    For those who do not believe this, I challenge you to Google, endocannabinoid and any cancer, or illness you can think of, then read the many scientific studies done, all peer reviewed and most either animal or human studies.

    I am sick to death of those who in complete ignorance still fall back on reefer madness lies to support the continued prohibition laws, that have no scientific support and have even less legal support.

    I suggest everyone learn about their own endocannabiniod system, not to mention learning that if you are using anything other than organic non sexed plants, you may well be doing damage that even the Cannabis cannot protect you from.

    Now for everyone, if you are going to discuss this topic, for goodness sake take the time to get your facts straight, pro and con, both sides make claims that are in fact just misinformation.

    You can find me on Facebook if you want to learn more,

  21. Elizabeth Pallett February 15, 2012 at 3:39 pm #

    Cannabis is NOT addictive, however tobacco is, so are the chemicals used when growing non organic. Therefore if you are addicted to something, I suggest you find out what you are genuinely addicted to and stop blaming the one thing that can cure any addiction.

    Ignorance is not bliss it is simply ignorance, try educating yourself and stop being a sheeple.

  22. schyler February 8, 2012 at 8:12 am #

    Different people have different aspects on thing and you became addicted … I have’nt and I’ve been smoking herbs for several years now… Its just you

  23. littlbit February 7, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

    Not worth getting busted over until, you require it for medical purpose, then it is more than worth getting busted over.

    I use it for medical, and with the latest science, it should be available to every single person on our planet to use, to prevent and cure almost any illness.

    Perhaps if everyone started thinking of Hemp/Cannabis as the valuable herb it is and stop thinking of it as the rebellion of their younger days, we might actually get somewhere in this debate.

    Personally I am sick of those who used during their teens as a sign of their rebellion against authority, yet today demand it stays illegal when most of us use it medically, not to get stoned/drunk.

  24. Josie Glenn February 7, 2012 at 12:23 pm #

    I also have no particular intention of smoking pot again. It was interesting. Not worth getting busted over or even the fuzzy feeling it left in my head.
    Basically, it put me to sleep. Melatonin does that better.

  25. Josie Glenn February 7, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    These statements are not equivalent:

    1) Most people who go on to abuse hard drugs first try “soft” drugs.

    2) Most people who try “soft” drugs will go on to abuse hard drugs.

    Not at all.

    Of course people don’t go from drinking soda pop to injecting crystal meth. They try alcohol, tobacco, and pot first; the first two being legal and the last correctly perceived as non-addictive except in people who would get addicted to anything.

    And most people who try pot are like me. I tried it. A few times. It was interesting enough to try a few times but not more than that. It’s just not a very compelling drug. It doesn’t act on the pleasure centers of the brain, so that is no surprise. I certainly had and have no intention of getting addicted to nicotine, heroin, cocaine, amphetamines, or anything else that’s really addictive; I have no intention of trying them; never have, never will.

  26. seo company new york January 30, 2012 at 10:18 am #

    alcohol and nicotine are just as likely to be the answers to the question “If you have used more than one drug, which was your first?” Also, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that there is a “gateway personality” than a gateway drug?
    Sure, a large percentage of hard drug users will indicate that they have smoked marijuana, but a _very_ large percentage of marijuana users indicate that they have NOT EVER used a hard drug…..Sounds like the “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy to me….
    Besides, shouldn’t the government be trying to curb pharmaceutical abuse rather than simple marijuana use, as the studies say that this grows more and more every year? Xanax and Vicodin can kill quite easily in overdose or when used carelessly with alcohol. Marijuana cannot.
    This is all assuming that those “ads” work anyway…….

  27. wwwnicks January 24, 2012 at 4:35 am #

    I know everyone says that pot isn’t like addicting or whatever but if it’s not addicting why was it all that ran through my head when I tried to quit so many times before I actually found a program that really worked for me? I was what you would call and complete an utter “pothead!” I smoked when I woke up, I smoked before and after I ate a meal, I smoked before bed! All I did was smoke weed! Then one day something happened to me and I realized, ” ideally have to stop!” I was spending sooooo much money and wasting my life away with marijuana! So I searche the Internet for ways to stop. I bought multiple programs before I gave up and just kept on smoking. Then one day my brother told me about the program he had ordered a few months back. He had been clean for 57 days and is still counting! I was so proud yet so Jealous but before all of that, I was curious how he found something that worked and I didn’t! So I ordered the ” Caninis Coach: Quit Smoking Marijuana 5-disc Audio program for myself. I mean, I had already spent a couple hundred on things that didn’t do crap for helping me, why not spend $40 for something that had worked for my blood? I am now 42 days sober and getting ready to start attending the Paul Mitchell hair school I had been wanton to attend since as far back as I can remember! I am so proud of myself and I wish that anything with a marijuana habit could see what being sober and doing something with your life does to a person! I am so happy! No more depression, no more anxiety, no more other drugs just to try and get my mind off the green! I think that anyone who’s really serious about getting sober and being somebody who can say “I’m proud of myself!” should be serious enough to spend $40 to kick your habit for the rest of your life! Atleast go to the website and check it all out! I can give you my 42 days sober word, if your serious about it, this program is definitely the way to go!!!

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  28. seo firm January 24, 2012 at 2:39 am #

    1. A UCLA study was unable to link marijuana use with cancer so that argument is out
    2. You cannot overdose and die from marijuana use.
    3. It is only a gateway drug because it is grouped and sold along with the other illegal drugs.
    4. It is less addictive than caffeine.
    5. 20 million americans smoke it so it isn’t going away!

    Is there really any good reason it shouldn’t be legalized?

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  31. Henry January 3, 2012 at 8:41 am #

    Yeah buddy! They should just legalize this shit already.

  32. Mark December 8, 2011 at 3:00 am #

    Marijuana IS a gateway drug, for more marijuana.

  33. maketh December 6, 2011 at 1:59 pm #

    I would just like to point out that the title of this page is “study says marijuana no gateway drug.” I agree though that marijuana isn’t a gateway drug.

  34. Anonymous November 28, 2011 at 8:01 pm #

    I highly doubt marijuana had anything to do with your grades improving. You were probably just more motivated to get better grades and decided to study harder.

  35. joseph November 27, 2011 at 6:11 pm #

    hi I am 17 and I smoked marijuana before ever drinking alcohol. I still can get weed easier then alc. I enjoy both, alc for when i’m doing doing mindless partying and weed for when I want to just hangout. I think weed is way more available because there are designated people you can get it from. I just want to put my voice out there and say that a lot of my friends did weed before tobacco and alc. (I deeply dislike people who smoke tobacco) none of us have ever done anything harder then “weed” (I believe alc is harder then weed but that’s my opinion, also I’ve never heard of anyone dying on overdose or quitting..) I can think of 3 people who have done stronger drugs then weed they all were heavy drinkers usually blacked out often

  36. Freddy November 8, 2011 at 2:29 am #

    The worst non smokers are ex-smokers, the worst non drinkers are ex-alcoholics, the worst non racists are ex-racists, the worst non drug users are ex-drug users and so on….
    So I contend that it is more hypocritic than anything when one of these begins to teach against any of their old habits.
    I suppose you teach how the Alaskan Indian is the most susceptible to alcoholism and the worst alcoholism in the nation is in Alaska.
    Do you know where the least alcoholism is…. Utah, do you know where the highest suicide rate in the nation is…. you guessed it Utah.

  37. Kris October 10, 2011 at 11:15 am #

    Uhh Leon, I don’t think you and I are reading the same post. It looks like Warren is saying that there are two types of pot smokers: Those who are mature enough to handle it and those who aren’t.

    You should get your facts straight before you criticize and condescend others, son.

  38. ben w October 9, 2011 at 11:10 pm #

    i think it depends on the person some people like me smoke pot and thats it we are happy with it then there are other people who will stop at nothing to get a better high everytime so eventually they start doing more hardcore things..heres my blog about medical marijuana http://medical-marijuana2.blogspot.com/
    weed IS NOT A DRUG ITS A PLANT

    peace
    420

  39. Leon September 22, 2011 at 4:55 pm #

    So you are criticizing both sides of the argument with biased opinions. According to you, anyone agreeing with marijuana as a gateway is an ass; but, everyone smoking it is a lazy zombie. Oh, except for you, of course…..even though it makes you eat cheeseburgers and play video games. lol. Get your story straight, son.

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  42. Jessica Johnson August 12, 2011 at 8:40 am #

    I am working at Utah drug rehab center and there are a lot of people especially teenagers who are comming every year in order to treat their drug addiction.When asked how they’ve started taking drugs,lots of them answered that everything started with marijuana.First for curiosity,than for pleasure and finally as a habit.

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  44. Nick G June 26, 2011 at 4:02 pm #

    I have blazed for a few years and even done some halusnagens. Yet I found that it wasnt until Tobacco was rolled into joints that my friends started going down hill. We went from hiking and hangingout in the wilderness to trying to be super cool and smoke cigs in more dingy places. I am in my 2nd year of University and havent smoked pot for a year and a half. Yet all my friends who started smoking cigerettes heavily are still in my home town with no job. Cigerettes are a gateway to being a lazy, unhealthy, and toxic smelling skid. Very few heavy smokers are succesful in todays society becuase they use them symbolically to better themsleves instead of actaully doing it. Cigs dont span creativity or help in medical use, and we have to pay taxes to pay for smokers healthcare….. Yet they are legal.

  45. Dave June 17, 2011 at 4:11 am #

    Well what the fuck is wrong with YOU that you know so many junkies. I don’t know any junkies, only people who smoke pot

  46. Anon June 16, 2011 at 3:05 pm #

    THC doesn’t destroy brain cells, it activates cannabinoid receptors. Do you have a logic or philosophy class? If so, pay better attention and you’ll learn why anecdotes are a terrible thing to base an argument on.

  47. Anon June 16, 2011 at 3:03 pm #

    You’re disregarding the fact that cannabinoids, the active ingredients in marijuana, have anti-carcinogenic properties. Smoking marijuana delivers no net increase in cancer likelyhood to the lungs because the anti-carcinogens cancel out any carcinogens derived from the burning plant matter.

    When you eat it or vape it, the anti-cancer effects are even more profound.

  48. Anon June 16, 2011 at 2:57 pm #

    It’s called an analogy. He’s pointing out that you can’t call marijuana a gateway drug just because some people you know smoked marijuana and later did other drugs for the same reason you can’t say milk is a gateway food because everyone drinks milk before they drink soda.

  49. Recovered Addict June 16, 2011 at 12:01 pm #

    Seriously flawed “logic.” Milk? That doesn’t even make sense. So, you’re saying food is a gateway drug?

  50. alx June 16, 2011 at 8:45 am #

    I’ve tried almost every drug I ever came across. It wasn’t because pot was a gateway it was because I was lied to by adults my whole life about pot so when I eventually tried it I no longer believed what was said about cocaine, ecstasy, etc.

    Alcohol is the only drug that I have ever had a bad experience with.

  51. Langdon June 16, 2011 at 8:41 am #

    That’s funny, because all the junkie scum *I* know started with milk when they were kids. By your reasoning, milk’s more of a gateway drug than marijuana.

  52. warren June 16, 2011 at 6:36 am #

    anyone who says marijuana is a gateway drug is an ass….or a republican.

    pot just makes an already weak person an even weaker piece of shit.

    I’ve smoked for many years and have come across many weak people.
    they smoke and turn into zombies.
    i smoke and want to do things….make things…read….figure things out.

    it doesn’t make me want to shoot heroin or snort coke.

    it DOES, however, make me want to eat cheeseburgers and play video games sometimes.

  53. Zeke June 16, 2011 at 5:56 am #

    It’s all in the company you keep. I have been a pot smoker for 15 years and NEVER ONCE tried anything harder that weed. None of my friends ever did either, so I believe its in the company you keep. My brother started with weed and moved up to harder stuff before hitting the bottom with crank, but he hung out with a lot of people that didn’t like the mellow high that weed gives you and wanted something to keep them going all freakin’ night, so again, you have a case of “It’s all in the company you keep”. Weed is NOT a gateway drug… Just about everything besides it IS. Get your head straight.

  54. Rose June 16, 2011 at 3:38 am #

    I know this isn’t what you meant, but there are deaths recorded that are due to marijuana use. Medical marijuana users have been denied healthcare (denied life saving transplants because of their legal use of cannabis). They didn’t die directly from marijuana use, but they could have possibly lived if they were not denied healthcare because of their marijuana use. It’s a messed up world we live in. http://www.komonews.com/news/18475224.html

  55. John Self June 15, 2011 at 9:23 pm #

    Marijuana is absolutely a gateway drug. All the junkie scum I know started with pot and went balls deep with the filthier stuff.

  56. Robert June 15, 2011 at 8:59 pm #

    Really?

    So we should listen to your obviously biased, unscientific, personal observations instead of the findings of a real scientific study?

    Really?

  57. Anonymous June 15, 2011 at 3:37 pm #

    Because your control group of 0 compared to your experimental group of 1, combined with your personal bias in the experiment, would like to argue with their data?

  58. Matt June 15, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    Perfectly summarizes exactly what I was thinking reading his comment. Thank you!

  59. Hugo June 15, 2011 at 3:09 pm #

    And who is to say that an addictive personality is not to blame? Some people taste chocolate and are hooked, than they get fat, diabetes, have a heart attack and die. Now should we call chocolate a drug just because someone can’t control cravings?

    I not insulting you I just hate that one experience for a person should be all we think about.

  60. Alternate Chris Simonite June 15, 2011 at 2:56 pm #

    “A control group of 214 can hardly be truely representative can it?”

    Yet you expect your single misspelled internet testimony to be more compelling somehow?

  61. frost June 15, 2011 at 2:54 pm #

    definitely agree with you james, however i wouldnt say i completely agree with this study, as ive had an alcoholic father for years, which has actually made me not want to be a drinker, despite having frequent access to it. weed on the other hand is something i had to seek out to try. the ‘gateway’ theory is hogwash if you ask me, people will do what they prefer to do, and blaming extenuating circumstances of any kind, whether it be ‘cigs led me to crack’ or ‘booze was always around’ just doesnt make much sense. it all comes down to a persons curiosity, and beyond that they can decide for themselves, the drugs arent deciding for them, people.

  62. OWNtheNWO June 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

    Oh look, someone who have a financially vested interest in the big lie disagrees. I’m shocked.

  63. Scott June 15, 2011 at 2:23 pm #

    This!

  64. LOL June 15, 2011 at 2:10 pm #

    “Typically, when a human being tries to recall certain things, it’s usually at a lightning speed.”

    Can I have what you’re smoking? You seriously can’t be serious.

  65. MU June 15, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

    Speaking of representative samples, how do you fail to see the sample bias of your own interactions? You’re a drug and alcohol counsellor (though it’s odd that you separate alcohol from drugs), so naturally those you come into contact with are the ones who have had problems with drugs. I doubt someone who recreationally smokes marijuana but has refused other drugs offered to them would turn to you for counselling. They don’t because they don’t need your assistance.

    What you’re saying is basically the equivalent of a marriage counsellor saying that all marriages are doomed, because they only ever deal with troubled marriages. It’s not true, just as your experiences tell us little about the actual causes of drug abuse.

  66. bo June 14, 2011 at 1:59 pm #

    maybe for you but in my own experience also, alcohol was drank before i smoked pot, i have had the desire to snort coke, and shoot up heroine when the time finely came, i said naw, im good. still smoke weed. been 8 years, and shrooms are the only other drug i like…alcohol is the gateway drug kids grow up with it from parents. my own dad would trick me into drinkin beer i still am disgusted by its flavor. weed is an amazing antidepressant and helps with my migraines. alcohol gives these two to me the next morning. maybe your failing cause you should look at teaching control instead of desolation of drugs, teach people to use for the effects of enhancing their life not to escape it or fly away in some dream

  67. Medical Marijuana Reviews June 3, 2011 at 6:13 am #

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  68. james May 16, 2011 at 1:07 pm #

    but zach you say these studies are from people with preconceptions? no, wrong! studies weigh out each side equally, hes not saying that marijuana IS NOT a gateway hes just proving to people that marijuana isnt the only gateway like people had previously ASSUMED hes proving that nicotine alcohole and marijuana are indeed gateways but marijuana is not the #1 gateway or #4 it is all circumstacial if a kid has access to drugs, whichever is most convienient they would probably go with so if a kid has an older brother that can buy beer hes probably going to drink because of the easy accesibility if his brother sold weed he would probably buy the weed ….but he did this not to legalize!! BUT to show to others with facts and 12 years of reasearch, proving other peoples theories, misconceptions and opinions obviously wrong because thats ALL they were

  69. Zach May 2, 2011 at 6:49 pm #

    But these are studies from people with preconceptions, they say it is and they find a way to prove it through yellow journalism. look at studies that have no starting opinion and that revolve around simple facts. That, my friend, is science, not twisting ideas and stats to make people believe what you believe.

  70. Chris Simonite March 15, 2011 at 1:13 am #

    I work in rehab as a drug and alcohol counsellor and I am a reformed cannabis smoker and poly drug user. My professional and personal experience would contradict this report.

    A control group of 214 can hardly be truely representative can it?

  71. Kimmy Bongu March 7, 2011 at 4:15 pm #

    I totally agree, weed is not a gateway drug at all. The only reason it’s even “considered” such is because of it’s “illegal” status that forces it to be sold by the same people that sell actual hard drugs and.

  72. Edward February 14, 2011 at 12:10 am #

    Kind of hilarious that this says it’s not a gateway drug, but the ads from drugfreeworld say the exact opposite.

  73. King Shid February 3, 2011 at 9:22 am #

    You got that right weed does not kill any body

  74. http://coolthingsnstuff.blogspot.com/ January 24, 2011 at 5:36 pm #

    I think it’s only a gateway drug because of the prohibition against it, if you didn’t have to go to a drugdealer to get it, you’d be much less likely to even be introduced to the more harder drugs.

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  81. The real facts November 21, 2010 at 5:44 am #

    Deaths in the United States in a typical year
    •Tobacco kills about 400,000
    •Alcohol kills about 80,000
    •Workplace accidents kill 60,000
    •Automobiles kill 40,000
    •Cocaine kills about 2,500
    •Heroin kills about 2,000
    •Aspirin kills about 2,000
    •Marijuana kills 0

  82. pro smoke November 21, 2010 at 5:37 am #

    your right its not a gateway drug. Watch the Union. It shows all the lies the government says about weed

  83. Johnny Bravo November 16, 2010 at 10:45 pm #

    Off course it’s not a gateway drug, it’s simply government propaganda.
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  84. Hokwei November 16, 2010 at 5:14 pm #

    While it’s true Bob Marley died of cancer, he didn’t die of lung cancer, he died of skin cancer.

  85. Taylor Steele November 12, 2010 at 2:21 pm #

    i know very successful people who smoke pot everyday and when they where kids. you obviously have never been high because you can control yourself and what you want to do with no problems in my experience. I smoke every night and my grades are C’S B’S and A’s and have been that way before i smoked. society is going to change, but not in any negative way. when its legalized its going to be harder for kids to get weed because they half to go threw the system first and ask an older friend to buy it for them just like alcohol. weed becomes easier to get when it’s illegal because the only thing you need to do is fine a dealer up the corner and they don’t care if your 6 or 80 years old as long as you got the money they will give you the weed. ;) just saying….

  86. Taylor Steele November 12, 2010 at 2:00 pm #

    your statement is FALSE, whose to say if someone sneaks a pill in your drink? its the same concept. shits just going to happen and the best way to prevent someone putting pills in your drink or if your joint gets laced is to watch the people you hangout with or where you go. Did you ever keep in consideration that its not weed that killed your loved one its the people who sold him the weed or gave it to him. It’s just like with guns… you kill someone its not the guns fault its the person who’s shooting it. Weed isn’t the bad guy here. It’s the corrupted people who laced the weed. I’m sorry about your loved one.RIP

  87. Taylor Steele November 12, 2010 at 1:29 pm #

    Alex thank you for being a smart kid. lol

  88. Jack November 11, 2010 at 5:29 pm #

    Marijuana was actually outlawed because it would have been one of the most used materials in the U.S. such as clothing, fuel and other commodities. It would have taken a huge revenue from cotton, tobacco, linen, and others. So the big wigs of these manufacturers had pull with people in the government to have it outlawed.

  89. Taylor Steele November 11, 2010 at 5:09 pm #

    I’m 17 years old. I have been smoking for over a year now every other day or so. Marijuana,Weed,Pot,Cannabis, whatever doesn’t make me want to skip school, it actually makes me want to prove a point. Weed doesn’t effect my school work one bit. I’m an average high school student with C’s,B’s,and A’s like i have done before smoking and still getting those grades with smoking. i had problems going to bed at night since I’ve been about 13.Marijuana has helped me fall asleep at about 10 every night. because of this i can wake up early go to school and not fall asleep in class. Calling Weed a Gateway drug isn’t very bright. One day you just don’t start smoking and think to yourself…. ” Dude i totally want to do some Crack now.” It doesn’t work that way. The point I’m trying to make is that you priority’s on life don’t change.If they do its not because of weed its because of you.

  90. Anonymous November 9, 2010 at 10:07 pm #

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  91. dylan sunshine November 8, 2010 at 8:49 am #

    i smoke pot every day…….i am 15 and i was doing cocain for 13 months….weed did lead me to it….but it was not weed that did that. it was me….whoever says its a gateway drug never did it….weed and lsd is positive…harder stuff sucks man…

  92. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 4:34 pm #

    But once your done, your IQ has dropped at least 60 points.

    It’s not addictive substantiveness that makes you want to use marijuana, but the psychological desire to feel “high”.

    We humans build up tolerance to certain substances when we use more of it, and the higher the tolerance, the stronger the desire to feel “high”.

  93. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 4:28 pm #

    Are you fucking retarded?

    The entire Chinese Qing empire collapsed because Opium and Heroin was such a hit. Everybody was smoking heroin, shit happened, and the entire empire collapsed.

    Do you want the United States of America to collapse? If you don’t, correct your thoughts and stop being such a mindless asshole.

  94. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 4:22 pm #

    1 argument.

    When you smoke marijuana you feel “high”. This is due to stimulating your brain cells and feelings in your body.

    Why would you intake such substances into your body, even legalize such substances to stimulates your brain cells and cause unruly feelings in your body?

    Why? To feel good. Almost all pot smokers smoke pot to feel “high”. They want to legalize it because they want to do it openly.

    What would our society be with say 1/3 of the people high all day long? There would be no society, no government, and no future development.

    Just a bunch of stoner’s, giggling and being happy about being able to smoke weed in broad daylight.

  95. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 4:17 pm #

    You smoke dried hay every day for 2 years, and I’m sure you’ll end up with some kind of a psychological problem.

    You smoke some kind of a grass full of THC every day for 2 years, you end up fubar.

    Still don’t see the relation?

  96. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 12:45 pm #

    Since Marijuana is illegal, statistics can often not be correctly achieved.

    For example: a group does an anonymous survey on groups of marijuana users.

    If the government bothers, they can actually acquire a court order that forces that group to disclose the names.

    The government will then proceed to arresting and punishing those individuals under statutes.

  97. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 12:42 pm #

    I’m in high school.

    Kids that smoke marijuana usually don’t do very well.

    Is there a link between that and the very high THC levels in the “very-safe herb”?

    THC destroys brain cells, how is that good for you?

  98. George Chan November 2, 2010 at 12:37 pm #

    You know Rastaman..

    Perhaps you should rearrange your priorities. Marijuana is a very severe drug, and it causes severe harm to your nervous system.

    “Only memory loss”. Typically, when a human being tries to recall certain things, it’s usually at a lightning speed. After alchohol or tabacco use, those nervous instincts are often slowed down.

    After Marijuana, memory loss kicks in, and it eventually becomes an obstacle in many things.

    Try not to skip, skipping makes causes you to delay on schoolwork.

    A 16 year old youth shouldn’t be smoking weed. They should be in school, and doing things that are fun, but also harmless to themselves.

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  100. adam B "Rastaman" October 26, 2010 at 5:31 pm #

    hi, my name is adam im 16, yes 16 and i’ve been smoking weed since i was 10 or so, honestly its been a positive effect on “my life” my grades in school have went from mybe D- and F to B and A’s when i first tried it i was like what ever it was just a first time thing. i smoked weed agian was i was in 8th grade and my grades were trash at that point but i starting smoking more offten and my grades started to go up, but it was getting to risky for me and cost for the weed was to much “rember i was an 8th grader at that point” so i decided it was over rated, but then agian started to smoke pot in the 9th grade i was smoking mybe once a month and my grades or ok but then my 10th and 11th year have been great smoking weed almost everday i have mostly A’s and no disapline issues the only negatives i have are short term memory loss, lazyness, and a mad case of the muchies which isnt bad because i am a skinny 6’1 guy who needs to put on weight, also i have been ditching to much school.If anyone or any parents want to talk to a kid who had first had exp. right at this point in life just reply back

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  101. Anonymous October 21, 2010 at 2:31 pm #

    The study should be done on more than 214 boys. And have females participate too. This needs to be more accurate. Or how is it true? What population did you survey? What kind of environments do these boys live in?

  102. Jake October 20, 2010 at 2:46 pm #

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    bullshit. psychological and health problems. tell that to the big whigs producing tobacco and LEGALLY putting destructive additives in them to lower their own costs, while paying off our worthless government to keep their efforts legal…spark up a joint that has zeroooo additives, and if you’re worried about 1 thing out of the 932509347509 things that apparently cause cancer, use a vaporizer. and what psychological problems do you speak of? please give one valid source that is not from some republican asshole or money-hungry group that wants to continue to keep marijuana illegal so tax payers can continue paying for those who are “not law-abiding”…who can verify that smoking marijuana causes psychological problems dipshit.

  108. Steve L September 13, 2010 at 11:06 am #

    If nothing else, please read the forward to the book, “marijuana is safer” which was written by former Seatle chief of police Norm Stampler. The fact is if you don’t support marijuana being legalized, you are actually contributing to allowing the current drug realities to continue. If pot was legal a substantial number of people would not drink as much alcohol which any one with half a brain knows is the far more dangerous drug. By not supporting legalization you are an accessory to the crimes that are being committed due to alcohol misuse. If pot was legal there would be fewer deaths of innocent americans caused by drunk drivers.

  109. Steve L September 13, 2010 at 10:57 am #

    If nothing else, please read the forward to the book, “marijuana is safer” which was written by former Seatle chief of police Norm Stampler. The fact is if you don’t support marijuana being legalized, you are actually contributing to allowing the current drug realities to continue. If pot was legal a substantial number of people would not drink as much alcohol which any one with half a brain knows is the far more dangerous drug. By not supporting legalization you are an accessory to the crimes that are being committed due to alcohol misuse. If pot was legal there would be fewer deaths caused to innocent americans caused by drunk drivers.

  110. Anonymous September 9, 2010 at 7:55 pm #

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  112. jesse August 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm #

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  115. Christina August 14, 2010 at 3:24 am #

    It wasn’t outlawed til 1937 & is still legal on the federal level.I find it interesting that the ones in charge of outlawing it do not seem to suffer the ill effects suggested. It brings me to another theory…Aliens in the white house JK lol.

  116. Jenn August 4, 2010 at 1:16 pm #

    The smoke from weed can cause cancer… I’m sure you wouldn’t dispute that the smoke in cigarettes that goes straight to the lungs contains carcinogens and then enters the bloodstream traveling through the body… Marijuana smoke contains 50–70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.

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  118. potheed August 3, 2010 at 5:32 am #

    As marijuana stands right now with its illegal status I must say it is a gateway drug. But if it were legalized I feel that would change. I personally don’t see marijuana as any more harmful than alcohol.

  119. Wilt August 1, 2010 at 9:27 pm #

    You wouldn’t have the whole lacing problem if it was legal.

  120. Alex July 29, 2010 at 10:17 pm #

    Wow, you really don’t know your facts. First off, yes Bob Marley did die from cancer, however, it was not from smoking weed. in 1977 he injured his foot while playing soccer with some friends. The wound seemed pretty extreme for a simple soccer injury, and when it got worse instead of healing, he decided to see a doctor. Marley was diagnosed with melanoma, and an amputation of the toe was recommended. Now you saying that weed has 10 times as much tar than tobacco is completely false. Weed does have tar in it, however there’s only 33 % of the amount of tar in tobacco. And WEED DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER!

  121. Ailith July 27, 2010 at 7:49 am #

    Well said, Ian.

  122. quitweed July 26, 2010 at 7:47 am #

    Think again Anonimo! How about Bob Marley? He sure as hell died of cancer. Marijuana smoke contains significantly more poisonous substances and 10 times as much tar (if not more). Maybe there is no proven link (yet) between weed smoking and cancer but that doesn’t mean a thing. Weed might be good fun and an ‘appropriate’ drug, but it brings serious health risks. Especially for long time users. Not to mention psychological problems too.

  123. Anonimo July 25, 2010 at 9:34 pm #

    I think it is amazing how false information can be so well promoted and credited, Marijuana is one of the best and safest herbs to use. It is natural, no possible overdose, has medical uses, and it has various methods of admissioin besides smoking.
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  124. Wessel July 23, 2010 at 11:54 pm #

    “Most people have problems using drugs.”
    That’s a wild claim, can you prove it? Because most drug users I know function just fine.

  125. The right person July 23, 2010 at 9:17 am #

    You know whats funny im an underage and yet I have people run around get my cigars, K2 (basicly like weed) and you never hear a single person complaining about 18+ers buying underagers that shit.

  126. luke July 22, 2010 at 8:57 am #

    weed is also a common term for tobacco…

  127. Trip The Shoelace Dreamer July 20, 2010 at 3:48 pm #

    Sure can. Just like any other drug, including the ones in your bathroom and coffee maker. Your comment sounds like you’re saying “if you take a substance that alters your body or mind, you may be ruining your life.” But have you considered how many drugs you take every day? Theres a difference between Drug use and Drug abuse. Whether a drug is being used or abused is up to the user, so people ruin lives, not pot.

  128. Michael D July 11, 2010 at 7:03 pm #

    The kids right! There are more and more studies being done proving marijuana’s beneficial points. The main negative effects are caused by the carcinogens from the smoke, the actual active ingredients can be useful for many patients suffering from many disorders and diseases such as and not limited to: Bi-polar disorder, AIDS/HIV, Chrons disease, and glaucoma. In fact This so called “drug” has been said to help eliminate cells that turn into cancer in the lungs. THC and related “cannabinoids” appear to be “a new family of potential antitumoral agent.”

  129. Wade July 6, 2010 at 1:16 am #

    Well it can destroy lives just like any other drug.

  130. andy July 2, 2010 at 7:17 am #

    Ian your obviously a little retarded from all the pot you have smoked

  131. Ian July 1, 2010 at 12:03 pm #

    I think marijuana should not even be considered a drug since there are no adverse side effects. People only problem with marijuana is the sterotypical “pot smoker”. These so called “pot smokers” are portrayed as lazy, un-active, and troublesome kids. I, myself smoke marijuana; but i also maintain an A/B avereage in school. So it makes me angry when we are portrayed as bad people just because marijuana was made illegal by william hearst. He was mad that he was losing money do to increase Hemp Paper at his lumber cooperation and he helped create propaganda about how its bad, even though; scientifically proven it only has benefits. The only drug that has no adverse side effects….

  132. jamie June 30, 2010 at 7:24 am #

    i my sciance case study we are doing about the debate of cannabis being used as a medical drug i personaly agree becausei take it but also because it would save the police’s time and effort because thay wont have to raid peoples house’s but i just want to know what every one else thinks? thanx

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  134. Eve Fields June 16, 2010 at 7:52 pm #

    Any drug can be used as a gateway drug, and any drug can be abused. I think there are people who can use marijuana on occasion. But yes most people have problems using drugs. Lots of people have a problem with drugs and should go to a Drug Rehab treatment program.

  135. Mo June 16, 2010 at 3:41 am #

    Marijuana is weed… Seek not to be understood but to understand.

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  156. Anonymous November 21, 2009 at 3:21 pm #

    Let me get some thigns straight rele quick; i love weed, makes everything better. I smoke about twice a week with my friends then we go out and have a blast. Point being ive personally enjoyed and experienced weed as a recreational drug so im speaking from just common sense, not a preconcieved hatred or straight facts. As a gateway drug i see it being plausible for the extreme habbitual users, upwards of like (throwing a number out there) 3 or 4 times a day, who have built up a decent amount tolerance. Depending on the person, they might want to experience a better high and might seek other means. Personally i thought about doing shrooms, cause i heard its like a better version of weed. I havent yet, but the reasoning isnt beyond everyone. Does this make week a gateway drug? More or less, depending on the person, but it could be the same deal with alcohol. The main idea revolving around the desire to attain the effect more efficiently, could prompt a small amount of people to try other things (also considering the assibility of the other drugs contrast to weed). Does this make weed worse? Not rele considering this chain of events is mostly tailered to the person, accessibility, and the drug being used.
    Weed, for all intents and purposes, is marginally bad for you. The carbon particles created by the burning of the leaves, easilly eliminated by a vapo, high end bong with multiple filters, and or baking. The only 2 side effects ive gotten is i sometimes forget small things (like where i put my keys) and im more prone to getting sick (especially during the winter). Ironaclly this prompted me to become better organized (so i can find my stuff easier) and eat healthy immunity boosting foods (like yogart) with regular excersize outside of highschool sports. I can drive high no problem and whats even funnier is that every single person i know that smokes and drives (around 50) acually drive rele slowly when theyr high. Honastly, wat other drug has “built in” safety side effects like that (not recomending doing it, just stating something i find humorous).
    Finally, why the fuck do i care wat other people do if its not bothering me. If u do it cool, call me up ill rip with ya, if u dont, w/e i dont rele care. As long as ur not hurting anyone and being respectful of other peoples’ opinions then go crazy. If u had a long day at work or u just finished a hard school week, go rip a joint with a few friends and watch a movie. Honastly, it’ll probably do u some good.

  157. Anonymous November 21, 2009 at 2:46 pm #

    Hey i feel very bad about what is occuring with ur family, having personally gone through a sloppy divource with my parents i know how harsh it is on the individuals involved. However, from what i read i believe that ur husband’s problem lies in his personality and genitics, not in the acual substance. Im not a doctor, but from personal experience ive noticed that the habbitual use of weed is caused by some personal and or emotional problem. Not being able to understand when a substance is hurting u, when it has been proven time and time again that it is not addictive, is a key note in a phycological problem. Blaming it on the weed is only a short sighted and convienant scapegoat.

  158. Anonymous November 20, 2009 at 1:25 pm #

    Study or no study I personally live with someone who is addicted to pot. I agree however that many (probably most ) will not become addicted. I smoked it in my youth and gave it up when I decided to get married and have children. No problem for me. On the other hand, my husband has ADD and he uses it to self-medicate. He buys a huge amount of it every 3 to 4 months and goes through what a normal person could make last for that duration into about a four or five day binge where his mood alters so badly that he really can not be pleasant to anyone, is red-eyed and looks at anyone and lies even though you are holding the bag he has bought in front of his face, taken directly from his drawer, show the pipe and lighter you took from his pants pocket before washing his pants that smell like pot while at the same time showing is email which has the transaction with his online dealer, a guy in BC that he buys it from. He even gets it delivered to his place of work, which is a good job that supports our family and has all kind s of benefits. Maybe you just think he is stupid,. Not stoned he is highy intelligent. But even with alll this proof, he will stare back with glossy blood shot eyes and say, ” No, I am not smoking pot…. I promise…. I wouldn`t do that. I love you and the kids. (Denial and lies two big traits of any addict) During these binges my nice husband disappears. The kids are neglected while their 40 year old dad (who is normally quite attentive) plays video games, guitar or surfs the net for the four to five days. At night, just like many of you marijuana smokers are aware of, he gets the munchies and proceeds to go to the kitchen when we are all asleep so that he can eat all the rest of the children`s treats for the week. (Ice cream, cookies) It doesn`t even matter if it is my 9 year old daughters piece of pie she was saving. I have dealt with this cycle for ten years and now as I tell him I am leaving and would like sole custody of our children he still will not stop lying and causing these disturbances four or five times per year which pretty much coincide with all Christmas`s, Kids Birthday parties and special family events. After 10 years, I can say that there is no getting between my husband and pot when he feels the need to self-medicate himself into a red-eyed, slow speaking neglectful father and husband. In my heart, I know through ten years of hard core experience that marijuana is very addictive to some. He would love these posts to prove to me otherwise….but as I have a family slowly being ripped apart by pot, I know first hand it is not. Maybe it is just all the ADDer`s out there who get addicted. I think they also use Robitussin to quiet their mind. All I know for sure is pot for him is nothing what it was ever like for me.

  159. Anonymous November 19, 2009 at 2:16 pm #

    American Euphoria
    by

    Richard Wilmot Ph.D.
    dr.docwilmot@gmail.com

    PREFACE

    Even though most psychoactive drugs in America are illegal, there are so many drug problems in this country that experts have termed drug abuse an epidemic. Yet our knowledge of drugs and drug use and abuse is inadequate. How much is too much? What does “getting high,” mean to the drug user? Are you an addict or a label?

    The purpose of writing this book is to answer questions such as these. The ideas and analysis presented here views “addiction” from a new and different perspective. It is a holistic approach to drug/alcohol use and abuse that will help to question current drug treatment and drug policy authority.

    Do the current perspectives on alcohol and drug abuse need to be questioned? After spending more than twenty years as a drug abuse counselor, researcher and educator, I believe they do. It is time for reform. It’s time for a change in thinking about euphoric drugs in general. It’s time for critical thinking about drug issues.

    My passion for drug studies grew out of my own experience with a variety of drugs, with the drug subculture while in college and later working in the “culture of recovery”. After having worked for the Addiction Research Foundation in Toronto, Canada, I received a scholarship to complete a specialized graduate degree (Ph.D.) in Drug Studies at the University of California at San Diego and spent years in the recovery field from doing research, drug counseling clients on Skid row as well as those in the film industry, editing the Journal of Drug Issues, lecturing at the Drug Policy Foundation in Washington D.C., and teaching courses in Drug Studies.

    This book focuses on the divisions between the “recovery culture” and the “drug culture”. Simply put, members of the drug culture have an acceptance of drug use while the recovery culture has an abstinence only approach. They are exclusive subcultures with little communication or acceptance of each other… although the culture of recovery is considerably more politically powerful. When one enters treatment, one must become an active, participating member in the recovery culture or risk becoming a treatment failure. One must drop all ties and interests in the drug culture and become committed only to the culture of recovery. Recovery, from the standpoint of the “culture of recovery” must be one of “higher power” conversion.

    Acknowledging that “addicts” could benefit from some of their drug experiences or part of their drug culture experience is unthinkable from the perspective of orthodox recovery. From the position of rehabilitation, all drug use is bad and any use is unacceptable. The people, places, and things that are associated with the drug culture must be disavowed. They are “triggers” to further drug use. Everything about the drug subculture is anathema from tattoos to clothing styles.

    Yet over my years in the fields of drug studies and treatment, I realized that much of what treatment had to say about “addiction” and the “addicts” themselves was based on stereotypes, stigmatization, ignorance, arrogance, and outright bigotry. Perhaps this is why eight out of every ten people entering recovery go back to using drugs.

    Historically there are a number of well-adjusted persons who made outstanding contributions to society, and took euphoric drugs. I have witnessed the same: people doing things that the recovery culture claimed were not possible for someone who regularly used drugs. These people would have been labeled “addicts” had they been noticed or caught. They were not “victims” of drugs; they had their use under control even though some used daily e.g. Pope Leo XIII. This history of controlled drug use led me to wonder about the differences between those whose drug use was non-problematic and those who abused.

    Traditional thinking is that the difference is physiological. Addicts are different biologically. They are allergic to alcohol or another drug; they have a “genetic predisposition” to abuse; they have “addictive personalities”. The scientific evidence for each of these perspectives is in dispute. Essentially there are those who understand “addiction” to be a controllable behavior and there are those who believe addiction is a disease. Yet the “treatment” for the “disease” of addiction” focuses on “character defects” and surrender to a “Higher Power” i.e. healing by faith.

    Rather, the most recent thinking is that “getting high: or “altering consciousness” is a universal biological drive arising out of the innate structure of the human brain. In other words, we are all “hard wired” to get “high”.

    Viewing intoxication as a biological inevitability gives us a better understanding of how drug use differs from drug abuse. Such use is not necessarily immoral or pathological but natural. Much like sex, drug use for humans is a natural drive. Everyone has a need to alter their consciousness and they will do so even at their own peril… from sky diving to smoking “crack” cocaine. The challenge for society is to address this biologically based need to “alter consciousness” in safe, non-abusive ways that will provide people with the “peak experiences” they universally crave. Furthermore, there is a non-abusive code for “getting high” that can be learned so that people who drink or take other drugs do not end-up embarrassed , sick, dependent or dead.

    To paraphrase this book: the ways in which we talk about drugs both to ourselves and to others perpetuates many of the problems with drugs. The content of what we have to say about drugs is a reflection of our puritan culture and our personal history.

    The answer to our current drug abuse dilemma is to: “just say know” to drugs. This book intends to further that process. The next major civil rights issue to be addressed in America will be the decriminalization of drug use.

  160. Anonymous November 19, 2009 at 5:08 am #

    Look, to all of you who are saying that marijuana is a gateway drug: It’s not. That’s like saying bread is a gateway drug. All drug users ate bread before they moved on to harder drugs. *gasp* Bread must be a gateway drug! No, but really, think about it like this: In a world where all recreational drugs are illegal, yes, marijuana will be a gateway drug. Why? Well, if you’re buying from a dealer who just so happens to have more than just marijuana, well, one day when you’re picking up a dime or some such from him, he might ask you if you want to try X drug. Now, if marijuana had been legal, and you were instead buying from say, a typical store of sorts, this situation would never have arisen. With legalization, the amount of exposure the harder drugs receive is diminished. So, legalize marijuana!

  161. Anonymous November 18, 2009 at 7:27 pm #

    It’s a personal choice, It should not be the government’s job to tell me what I can and can not do with my body if I don’t hurt other people in the process.

  162. Anonymous November 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm #

    Heres a little background for you. I do not smoke weed, actually never had. I do read the writing on the wall however. But the data is all present. Marijuana is no worse for you than alcohool or cigarettes, do some research you stepford moms…
    With those people who have diseases such as HIV, MS, Rumatiod authritis, Fibromyalgia ect. its used to actually treat them. And has been proven in many studies to have less side effects than the next prescription medication. Its used as a pain reliever, stops nasuea and vomitting. and these people deserve the best treatement possible. Marijuana has also been tested to not be a “gateway drug”. Oh yeah… its also being tested as a treated for Chemotherapy on a little sidenote. And recreational usage: get high, or dont, just dont be stupid, same with alcohool. Its all about what YOU want to do, so go ahead and legalize and give people their freedom of choice all ready…

  163. Anonymous November 11, 2009 at 11:36 am #

    i agree with you completely doing drugs is the persons choice… it sounds like youve rolled a few times

  164. Anonymous November 7, 2009 at 1:12 pm #

    American Euphoria
    by

    Richard Wilmot Ph.D.
    dr.docwilmot@gmail.com

    PREFACE

    Even though most psychoactive drugs in America are illegal, there are so many drug problems in this country that experts have termed drug abuse an epidemic. Yet our knowledge of drugs and drug use and abuse is inadequate. How much is too much? What does “getting high,” mean to the drug user? Are you an addict or a label?

    The purpose of writing this book is to answer questions such as these. The ideas and analysis presented here views “addiction” from a new and different perspective. It is a holistic approach to drug/alcohol use and abuse that will help to question current drug treatment and drug policy authority.

    Do the current perspectives on alcohol and drug abuse need to be questioned? After spending more than twenty years as a drug abuse counselor, researcher and educator, I believe they do. It is time for reform. It’s time for a change in thinking about euphoric drugs in general. It’s time for critical thinking about drug issues.

    My passion for drug studies grew out of my own experience with a variety of drugs, with the drug subculture while in college and later working in the “culture of recovery”. After having worked for the Addiction Research Foundation in Toronto, Canada, I received a scholarship to complete a specialized graduate degree (Ph.D.) in Drug Studies at the University of California at San Diego and spent years in the recovery field from doing research, drug counseling clients on Skid row as well as those in the film industry, editing the Journal of Drug Issues, lecturing at the Drug Policy Foundation in Washington D.C., and teaching courses in Drug Studies.

    This book focuses on the divisions between the “recovery culture” and the “drug culture”. Simply put, members of the drug culture have an acceptance of drug use while the recovery culture has an abstinence only approach. They are exclusive subcultures with little communication or acceptance of each other… although the culture of recovery is considerably more politically powerful. When one enters treatment, one must become an active, participating member in the recovery culture or risk becoming a treatment failure. One must drop all ties and interests in the drug culture and become committed only to the culture of recovery. Recovery, from the standpoint of the “culture of recovery” must be one of “higher power” conversion.

    Acknowledging that “addicts” could benefit from some of their drug experiences or part of their drug culture experience is unthinkable from the perspective of orthodox recovery. From the position of rehabilitation, all drug use is bad and any use is unacceptable. The people, places, and things that are associated with the drug culture must be disavowed. They are “triggers” to further drug use. Everything about the drug subculture is anathema from tattoos to clothing styles.

    Yet over my years in the fields of drug studies and treatment, I realized that much of what treatment had to say about “addiction” and the “addicts” themselves was based on stereotypes, stigmatization, ignorance, arrogance, and outright bigotry. Perhaps this is why eight out of every ten people entering recovery go back to using drugs.

    Historically there are a number of well-adjusted persons who made outstanding contributions to society, and took euphoric drugs. I have witnessed the same: people doing things that the recovery culture claimed were not possible for someone who regularly used drugs. These people would have been labeled “addicts” had they been noticed or caught. They were not “victims” of drugs; they had their use under control even though some used daily e.g. Pope Leo XIII. This history of controlled drug use led me to wonder about the differences between those whose drug use was non-problematic and those who abused.

    Traditional thinking is that the difference is physiological. Addicts are different biologically. They are allergic to alcohol or another drug; they have a “genetic predisposition” to abuse; they have “addictive personalities”. The scientific evidence for each of these perspectives is in dispute. Essentially there are those who understand “addiction” to be a controllable behavior and there are those who believe addiction is a disease. Yet the “treatment” for the “disease” of addiction” focuses on “character defects” and surrender to a “Higher Power” i.e. healing by faith.

    Rather, the most recent thinking is that “getting high: or “altering consciousness” is a universal biological drive arising out of the innate structure of the human brain. In other words, we are all “hard wired” to get “high”.

    Viewing intoxication as a biological inevitability gives us a better understanding of how drug use differs from drug abuse. Such use is not necessarily immoral or pathological but natural. Much like sex, drug use for humans is a natural drive. Everyone has a need to alter their consciousness and they will do so even at their own peril… from sky diving to smoking “crack” cocaine. The challenge for society is to address this biologically based need to “alter consciousness” in safe, non-abusive ways that will provide people with the “peak experiences” they universally crave. Furthermore, there is a non-abusive code for “getting high” that can be learned so that people who drink or take other drugs do not end-up embarrassed , sick, dependent or dead.

    To paraphrase this book: the ways in which we talk about drugs both to ourselves and to others perpetuates many of the problems with drugs. The content of what we have to say about drugs is a reflection of our puritan culture and our personal history.

    The answer to our current drug abuse dilemma is to: “just say know” to drugs. This book intends to further that process. The next major civil rights issue to be addressed in America will be the decriminalization of drug use.

  165. Anonymous November 6, 2009 at 8:17 am #

    Ask yourselves this question then..if marijuana is bad..how come Barack Obama openly admitts that in his time he did COCAINE and MARIJUANA. Does anyone know why? because obviously its not that bad..marijuana can be used for so many reasons besides what people think..its used to relieve anxiety and anger and it stops pain AND theres never been a recorded death to a overdose of marijuana..its safer then Ibuprofen and its ILLEGAL? why is that? Can anyone answer that question with out lies?

  166. Anonymous November 1, 2009 at 9:33 am #

    I started smoking marijuana before I ever took my first drink or pull on a cigarette. For new jobs who drug test and all types of other situations I would have to stop smoking marijuana for months at a time (one time for a couple of years). The time periods I quit smoking marijuana went by as a breeze and the times I started back were even more enjoyable. On the other hand when my girlfriends and other female company started complaining about the horrible stinch cigarettes left on me, it made me decide to quit cigarettes. OH MY GOD! Being that I quit smoking marijuana so easily on numerous occasions, I decided to quit cold-turkey like I did with marijuana. HOLY SHIT! The withdraws that I faced were out of this world! Every muscle in my body burned as my limbs shivered under the sheets each night. My nerves were uncontrolable making me snap on any innocent person with a question to ask me. After I got past it all I realized that cigarettes are 10t more addictive than marijuana. Right now the only thing I smoke is marijuana and I have no urge to do anything else. I work out every morning, work 5 days a week, go to school 3 days a week, and still find time to record music. I am in no way looked at as a “pot head”. So for anyone who thinks that marijuana is SOO horrible, I just ask them to look at me.

  167. Anonymous October 28, 2009 at 7:33 pm #

    The reason that there are more teens in treatment is because their are more court referrals and/or other (family, friend, employer) referrals to treatment. When a kid gets in trouble for marijuana they give them a choice between treatment and a harsher punishment. Which would you choose?

  168. Anonymous October 23, 2009 at 11:35 pm #

    I think we all should be open to the possibility that marijuana could be harmful and possibly should not be used as a medicine.

    Although based on most studies i have seen i feel much more inclined to believe that its harmfulness is quite low (yes it is harmful, breathing in smoke damages the cells in your lungs. Although there are no implications yet that it can cause lung cancer. If you do not believe me look up Dr. Donald Tashkins he is a professor at UCLA who did a study on whether or not marijuana causes lung cancer.) but the question is to bring this harm into perspective because there are so many harmful things.

    Also I think we need to question the logic behind why we legalize certain substances. If the argument is that we legalize substances because of the harm the substance does to the body and the mind then my question would be why is alcohol and tobacco usage legal when they clearly display equally harmful if not more harmful consequences to the body and mind the marijuana?

    As for the gateway argument, i think it is ill founded. If i drink milk does that mean ill go on to drink alcohol? I think if we did a study we could clearly show that most users who abuse alcohol started with milk. Is milk a gateway drug? The flaw in the gateway assumption is initially that there is nothing in marijuana that causes one to want to do other more harmful drugs the same goes with milk.

    Why then, do we link the two? If anything i would say it is because marijuana is illegal and people link it to other illegal drugs. If they can justify doing one illegal some what potentially harmful drug then why not other? If then that is correct then, it would not be marijuana that is the problem, it would be the prohibition of marijuana that is the problem.

    I however have a bias in all of this because i am guilty of smoking marijuana and would like it to not be harmful and would like it to be legalized. Thus, I am in the mists of a great study to see whether or not it is worth the potential harm. Perhaps vaporization would greatly reduce the health risk.

    Anyways if you have read this far and are as interested as i am than i suggest you study it. Dont become the typical uneducated stoner, read about it and study it, if people disrespect your personal choice than attleast make it an well known and thought out one for your own self respect. I think you owe it to yourself.

  169. Anonymous October 23, 2009 at 9:58 pm #

    There should be new laws to help mitigate this. It is a sad fact but it is reality. Many teens are abusing the loophole which leads to addiction. I did a study at an Addiction Treatment Clinic in Malibu and I was surprise to see the statistics that more teens this year has been treated as compared to last year for marijuana abuse.

  170. Anonymous October 23, 2009 at 11:23 am #

    you said always; however, i know plenty of people who have indeed not tried anything harder then marijuana and have never had the desire to do so. i believe that moving on to the much harder drugs is more of a choice than a “forced thing.” the people who do not get a satisfying high from weed then choose to move to a harder drug, it does not guarantee that you will try harder drugs if you choose to smoke pot.

  171. Anonymous October 22, 2009 at 1:23 am #

    Ive Smoked Weed Just Hada Cone Its Kept Me Healthy And I Just Wanna Say Its A Persons Choice To Decide Whether Or Not 2 Drop An Acid Trip Or Take A Line Of E. Statiistics Have No effect on The Persons Mind At The Time
    yo
    west

  172. Anonymous October 19, 2009 at 9:39 am #

    you are an idiot and shouldn’t even be allowed near a computer.

  173. Anonymous October 21, 2009 at 8:34 am #

    Hello, Have you ever smoked pot because I have. But first I drank perfectly legal alcohol. And I still smoke and I have never ever wanted to use any other drugs for the fear of dieing and also i don’t wanna fuck up my life due to the addiction that comes from that. I am a Casual smoker I smoke once every week to every two to three weeks. I have no Addiction to it and I have never tried or wanted to try other drugs.

  174. Anonymous October 20, 2009 at 4:49 pm #

    what does that have to do with weed? That is what everyone says on that side of the argument – you say we don’t know anything but then you have nothing to back it up. Marijuana has been something that people have studied for a long time because they like it. it didnt just start getting studied. People have been learning about weed for years because they enjoy smoking it and want to learn more about it. Weed is in no way worse than cigarrettes. Everyone that i know that smokes cigs coughs up black stuff and is miserable whenever they exercise. i smoke weed everyday and i have no problem exercising. So dont give me that crap. Weed is not good for you, but anything that makes you feel good is probably not good for you (except for one thing but i think we can all figure out what it is).

    I have no problem accepting that weed is a bad thing if there is legitimate info to back it up.

  175. Anonymous October 16, 2009 at 7:10 am #

    Weed has NEVER NEVER, NEVER been HARDLY even studied until recently. YOUR INHALING SMOKE, but weed is worse. YES WORSE THEN CIGS. Why does everybody or, at least a lot, say “ooo its not harmful, its good for you, its not a drug its a herbbb.” ITS BC THATS ALL THEY KNOW. just because it feels good and makes so called “better”, doesn’t been its actually GOOD AND HEALTHY.
    Take for example RX drugs. Yea they are good for you and to help you, BUT HOW LONG DO MOST OF THEM STAY ON THE MARKET BECAUSE THEY CAUSE DEALTH OR COMPLICATIONS???
    because they’ve never been fully studied and not always actually “good for you”

  176. Anonymous October 18, 2009 at 10:35 am #

    Do you know that most of the drugs approved by the FDA are the drugs that actually cause cancer and other LIFE threatning illnesses. Show me a study of someone or multiple people who are addicted to marijuana. You will find that there are more alcoholics and tobacco addicts than there are pot heads. Check the stats no related deaths to pot….all that do involve pot are in conjunction with another drug not pot alone. FDA that!!

  177. Anonymous October 19, 2009 at 5:28 pm #

    I’ve made it only through the first couple comments in response to this blog and would just like to point out that anything in over consumption is not “good for you”. Please, do me a favor and refrain from making this seem like its incredibly dangerous because realistically, there are an infinite number of ways we all die.

  178. Anonymous October 12, 2009 at 4:51 pm #

    it is common sense we ban marijuana they just broke a law so why stop you are already “doing a bad thing” so might as well keep going into deeper water. people need to be educated on the difference between marijuana and drugs. that was not an error either. another possible factor is their outside influences such as the people they might hang around with. as long as people know the difference you will see a difference in centers such as these.

  179. Anonymous October 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm #

    ignorant in so many ways……………..there is nothing wrong with marijuana just like there is nothing wrong with coca leaves. once you start to add artificial chemicals then you have drugs. marijuana has been studied by top scientist but their work has been shunned from the medical community. marijuana honestly can not be abused. cigarettes and alcohol(both legal) are substances you can actually abuse. now common sense should kick in and you start asking yourself why is it illegal. but no one would really tell you why. you ask yourself the pros and cons and you dont know what to believe. think about the fact that people can drive high/stoned but people can not drive drunk. now alcohol and cigarettes (both addicting) are the legal ones. both can kill you. go online and try and look for marijuana related deaths. there are none. we need to be fighting against real drugs such as cocaine meth crack etc…. you know the actual drugs that are harmful instead of a stress reliever. oh and for those who say that it is wrong to use it because you will not learn how to cope with life problems. then people should stop going to yoga classes or aroma therapy or masoose parlors because these are all things that help cope with stress…………….. maybe people are just ignorant in so many ways.

  180. Anonymous October 6, 2009 at 6:31 am #

    love the way you put it ,yust comes to so how ganja inprove brain power. 2 be able to think straight without crooked ways. God bless!!!

  181. Anonymous October 9, 2009 at 12:07 am #

    First off I disagree with anyone who states that marijuana is addicting. I am a frequent marijuana smoker and have been for some time. I show no signs of being addicted to marijuana. When a person is arrested for possession and is forced to get drug tested they must immediately stop smoking in order to pass. I have not heard of anyone who has failed to be able to do this no matter how often they smoke. That alone should show that everyone who believes marijuana is addicting is indeed………. A FUCKING IDIOT. Next i would like to state that i agree marijuana is not a gateway drug. I agree 100% with the segment of the article which says, “the likelihood that someone will transition to the use of illegal drugs is determined not by the preceding use of a particular drug but instead by the user’s individual tendencies and environmental circumstances.” I have no desire to go into harder drugs then marijuana. Throughout the years of smoking, i have started to despise harder drugs. Alcohol even seems much less appealing and i no longer enjoy it. In conclusion i find it funny that all the accusation that marijuana is a gateway drug, is addicting, is cancerous, etc. are all being proved wrong, and soon people will discover all the bullshit about marijuana that our government has been hypnotizing us with.

  182. Anonymous October 4, 2009 at 7:38 am #

    I disagreement with a lot of the comment on this post. Most of the guys will say that they can stop anytime they want. Tell them to stop for a month. You will end with answers such as “it is just cause i don’t want to” ” I am not interested for now”. I had the same problem and saying the same things. I am a living example of that. I was smoking pot nothing else until I ended up in a drug rehab center. It is easy to talk when you are not stopping.

  183. Anonymous October 3, 2009 at 12:45 pm #

    I think marijuana is definitely a drug It is classified as so by the FDA and people are addicted to it.

  184. Anonymous October 1, 2009 at 8:03 pm #

    I smoke weed and i can just drop it when i want. I’ve went months without weed and have been perfectly fine. Marijuana itself is not addictive. What happens is there are people that are unable to cope with something in their lives and they use it to escape those problems and that’s why they don’t stop.

  185. Anonymous September 24, 2009 at 11:48 am #

    i love everything about what you said right here

  186. Anonymous September 23, 2009 at 10:39 pm #

    I love how you bash someone for their grammar and spelling mistakes and blame it on drugs,when the comment below yours is so full of them its almost unreadable. They are against drugs completely, so whats their excuse for writing nonsense like this?

    “…drugs lead to worser circumstances”

    “However, growing up and using drugs most likely that bad circumstance would be
    repeated onto the next generation through spawn”

    “If we as a society legalize marajuana we are saying mood altering substances are excepted among society as a way of coping with life.”

    I thought only potheads and druggies were uneducated and unable to write properly. By the way I smoke marijuana on a regular basis to help me replax, and I do not have a problem writing correctly.

  187. Anonymous September 22, 2009 at 11:03 am #

    I do not care what you think marijuana is addicting. If you say it is not try going without it for awhile chances are you cant. also some people do not go into drug rehab just because the cops make them I have a friend that went to Narconons drug rehab and she went cause one day she woke up in the hospital covered in blood and the doctor told her it was a miracle that she made it through the night . That was her wake up call that she needed help she was a mother and she wanted to see her child grow up , and that was when she went to narconon.

  188. Anonymous September 22, 2009 at 7:57 pm #

    It’s funny, all the things that you would miss when your not surrounded by them anymore. And for that we have this word addiction that people mess around with way too much. What is the purpose of the word, when it is today, the definition of just ‘missing’ something.

    Try go without internet for a while (It’s possible, but why?)
    Try go without electricity for a while (It’s also possible but also not so entertaining)
    Try go without your car for a while (Also possible but could end up with you loosing your job)

    Why not step it up a notch? Stop with something for good. Let’s start with;

    Stop using your bed (Also possible, but would probably end up with sleeping distortions)
    Stop using all forms of medications (Also possible, but why not medicate when we can?)
    Stop using your brain (Because maybe you shouldn’t have in the first place.)

    It’s not only pot that gives you dangerous satisfactions. Don’t be tempted people! By all means sleep on the floor, learn to accept the darkness, don’t even look at a television (it’s like heroin), no internet, never electricity it’s a gateway to internet & television, love, coffe, clothes of all kind, don’t talk, don’t do anything because it can be too tough to be without one day.

    Missing someone or something is a part of what makes us human beings, and people want to prevent that?

    (The text is definitely not eye-candy & probably just pure-nonsense. This is what came to my mind when i started to read what I did not finish on this page.)

  189. Anonymous September 20, 2009 at 4:29 pm #

    I’ve seen from personal experience that it is a gateway drug.

  190. Anonymous September 20, 2009 at 10:55 am #

    there have been no DIRECT deaths from marijuana use, THC and caffeine are both drugs, and if someone fell on a pencil after taking caffeine you wouldn’t call it a coffee related death would you? What I mean is marijuana causes no direct health damage, in the same way that alcohol causes liver damage

  191. Anonymous September 16, 2009 at 5:58 pm #

    After all these years of an insane drug policy based on misinformation we are starting to finally see a little bit of light. Marijuana doesn’t lead to crack! Duh!

    Jason

  192. Anonymous September 5, 2009 at 9:47 am #

    Mr. “much more intelligent” check your grammar before you write an argument it may help your creditabiliy as a drug user. In reading this it is clear you use marajuana. Mispellings and bad grammmar are very prevelant and rampid. Justify your harmful acts to yourself and society however you may. Don’t worry it won’t kill you to hear the truth. lol

  193. Anonymous September 4, 2009 at 2:58 am #

    Marijuana .. whether good or bad … just dont get addicted. addiction of any sort is bad. and even if you are addicted, get treated for. places like drug rehab at malibu have very good facilities. Personalized care and support program etc.

  194. Anonymous September 5, 2009 at 9:34 am #

    Yes its true that enviormental circumstances play into drug use. However, drugs lead to worser circumstances and cause more damage to that individual. Then for say his original bad circumstance at home as a child. If that child grew into an adult without drugs he would overcome his original bad circumstance most likely. However, growing up and using drugs most likely that bad circumstance would be repeated onto the next generation through spawn. Legalizing marajuana will encourage more drug use. If we as a society legalize marajuana we are saying mood altering substances are excepted among society as a way of coping with life. Whether one use mood altering substances to socialize, relax, or for boredom it is all counterproductive ,and a method of coping. People that wouldn’t normally use marajuana because it’s illegal would end up using it. If it is a gateway drug even in a small percentage. We would see a rise in illegal drug use. Alchohol and synthetic drugs have harmed society enough why add one more to the nightmare we are already dealing with. I work for a drug rehab and see the results of drug use everyday. We as an organization work hard on focusing on drug prevention directed towards our youth. Legalization of marajuana would contradict every effort our drug preventionist have done towards our younger generation to discourage any use mood altering substances. Drugs are destructive to the well being of our society period.

  195. Anonymous September 3, 2009 at 10:52 am #

    Well, i’ve smoked weed for about 10 years, i hold a successful job, am in great physical shape, have never went on to harder drugs, pay my bills, clean license, great lover(so i’ve been told)….. also i have multiple friends who only smoke weed, heck, dont even drink alchohol, and if used in a Vaporizer weed has no long term affects on your health. People need to stop making assumptions cause they cant handle their own addictions and want to ruin it for everyone else……

    sooo if i get fed candy when i’m a kid, does that mean i’m gonna grow up to have a fatty ice cream, chocolate cake, sugary, horrible diet?!!!!!
    no no, its called self control

    It just seems that people have become sooo softened over the years, instead of realizing they have a problem and confronting it, they have to come up with some medical term to give them an excuse “oh its not my fault cause my daddy drank and my mommy was overweight so i can live my life like that and shouldnt recieve any blame” straight BS

    Sure hereditary situations can have effects on people, but(for the most part) instead of getting another drug from the Doc to fix the problem, the real prescriptions should be hard work, dedication, and willpower, the only true way to overcome your problems…..

  196. Anonymous September 3, 2009 at 10:47 am #

    Someone commented:

    “Weed always leads to harder drugs. I work in a drug rehab and about 80% of people started out with marijuana”

    Well, i’ve smoked weed for about 10 years, i hold a successful job, am in great physical shape, have never went on to harder drugs, pay my bills, clean license, great lover(so i’ve been told)….. also i have multiple friends who only smoke weed, heck, dont even drink alchohol, and if used in a Vaporizer weed has no long term affects on your health. People need to stop making assumptions cause they cant handle their own addictions and want to ruin it for everyone else……

    sooo if i get fed candy when i’m a kid, does that mean i’m gonna grow up to have a fatty ice cream, chocolate cake, sugary, horrible diet?!!!!!
    no no, its called self control

    It just seems that people have become sooo softened over the years, instead of realizing they have a problem and confronting it, they have to come up with some medical term to give them an excuse “oh its not my fault my daddy drank and my mommy was a lazy fat pig so i can live my life like that and shouldnt recieve any blame” straight BS

    Sure hereditary situations can have effects on people, but(for the most part) instead of getting another drug from the Doc to fix the problem, the real prescriptions should be hard work, dedication, and willpower, the only true way to overcome your problems…..

  197. Anonymous September 4, 2009 at 7:33 am #

    Also ask your ‘weed addicts’ how many of them are in your rehab on their own free will. Most of them have been arrestted on some b/s charge and forced into rehab. that is only good for the rehab workers who have job security because they will never run out of people to arrest for possession for marijuana. It is also good for the courts, lawyers, and police who all get a little kickback for taking drugs of any kind off the streets. I bet that rehab workers in general would rather have people in their programs on pot than on heroin anyway… I mean if you had real addicts in your program you might have to work harder!

  198. Anonymous September 1, 2009 at 9:50 am #

    How come this study only focused on marijuana, alcohol and weed? How many of those who participated ended up using harder drugs? How can they determine which is a gateway drug without that additional info?

  199. Anonymous September 1, 2009 at 9:41 am #

    I think the article was comparing marijuana with tobacco and alcohol use. Did you ask how many of your 80% started by smoking cigarettes or alcohol? I think it’s pretty unfair to say they are your patients due to marijuana alone (and not environmental factors) I assume all of your patients ate. Maybe that’s what did it.

  200. Anonymous September 1, 2009 at 2:47 am #

    the question you should be looking at is how many of the total population of those who smoke weed end up in rehabs?

  201. Anonymous August 30, 2009 at 6:11 am #

    This whole conversation bring us back to that age old saying “politics over anything logical or scientific:.Ultimately although the science may say a certain thing if the economics and politics dont much up what scientically logica is ignored…..sad but true

    Luckson
    http://mydrugtherapy.blogspot.com/

  202. Anonymous August 28, 2009 at 10:10 am #

    dude weed is badass cant wait to get home from school an blaze it up..

  203. Anonymous August 19, 2009 at 11:17 pm #

    WELL?

  204. Anonymous August 18, 2009 at 1:05 pm #

    you’re not accounting for the marijuana users that have stuck to marijuana and don’t need rehab as a result of.

    you’re missing a very large number of people there.

  205. Anonymous August 18, 2009 at 1:26 am #

    there have been studies i lost them but they were something like for every like 15 drunk driving accidents there is 1 marijuana related driving accident
    but pots pretty damn harmless on its own

  206. Anonymous August 7, 2009 at 6:58 am #

    there is only a hand full of chemicals in rat poison, so does that make it safer than both of them?? eh no

  207. Anonymous August 13, 2009 at 12:44 pm #

    Actually it is safer than tobacco. In fact weed has cancer fighting agents. There has never been a case of lung cancer caused by smoking weed. It prevents cancer of the neck and head. The number of chemicals is not the issue, neither is the number of harmful chemicals and weather it is addicting. Tobacco is harmful and addicting, Weed is arguably much less harmful and not addicting. But the issue is weather you have the right to decide what you put in your body or not. Factual information, and informed choices by adults on what they choose to use and what they choose not to. All prohibition is wrong!

  208. Anonymous August 13, 2009 at 11:30 am #

    Where does your research say that people who smoke weed don’t ever drive after/while smoking and not ever crash as a result? Arguing “ZERO” deaths from something is very naive. With 300 million Americans, everybody dies of something, and virtually everything kills people, even falling on pencils. So, it’s hard to argue that there are ZERO deaths from marijuana.

  209. Anonymous August 12, 2009 at 7:34 am #

    that’s not true. it’s not a drug. it’s a plant. viagra is a drug. it’s not any more harmful than a lot of other things people ingest on a daily basis.

  210. Anonymous August 12, 2009 at 7:34 am #

    Cannabis is still illegal due to the many competing products that could be formed from hemp which directly compete with corporate America. Underneath all the crap is a little known fact that big corporate America found it useful for cannabis/hemp to remain a prohibited substance by disguising it as Marijuana which meant something very different at the time … around 1937. Here is a agood primer though there is much fact out there:

    http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/

    If you ever make it to Amsterdam stop by the Cannabis and Hash museum where thee are many facts on this subject – one notable fact is that caffeine has proven to be more dangerous than hash/cannabis

  211. Anonymous August 11, 2009 at 9:48 pm #

    There was a similar finding by the Institute of Medicine in 1999. Performed at the behest of the former drug czar Barry McCaffrey, it ALSO found that marijuana was NOT a gateway drug, but in fact alcohol and nicotine are FAR more likely to act as ‘gateway’ drugs.

    Odd that the study is never mentioned, even by those who PAID FOR IT, the ONDCP.

    Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base

    The government has known for a decade, they’ve just continued to destroy people’s lives because it’s easier to let a runaway train mow down fellow citizens, than it is to try and stop the injustice.

    The VAST majority of cannabis aficonados are hard-working, home-owning, child-rearing, tax-paying American CITIZENS, who simply want to relax with a safer alternative to alcohol, which KILLS 150,000 Americans a year by the way, and addicts 15% of those who try it. Or cigarettes, which KILL 450,000 Americans every year, and addicts 30%+ of those who try them.

    Or we could go with cannabis, which kills ZERO Americans every year, and can lead to dependence in 10 % of its users.

    Kills no one, is LESS addictive, and marijuana is illegal?! Certainly there are those who have problems, let’s not kid ourselves, marijuana is not totally harmless. But it is LESS harmful than the two leading intoxicants, alcohol and nicotine. All we want is parity. All we want is for folks to stop oppressing us for what we do behind the doors of our own home. If what I do hurts no one else, I should be left to my own devices. Or do you want ME telling YOU how to live?

  212. Anonymous August 11, 2009 at 8:33 pm #

    the point of this whole article was disproving the “fact” that marijuana leads to other, more dangerous drugs

  213. Anonymous August 12, 2009 at 3:13 pm #

    Why don’t people that advocate pot legalisation start over advertising the fact that you don’t need to smoke it. It feels great to eat it to, as well “occaisonal” pot use wont get you addicted occaisonal cigarette use WILL. Legalise it tax it and sell just like alcohol!!!

  214. Anonymous August 12, 2009 at 1:25 pm #

    In that it leads to greater experimentation.
    But not due to any particular psychotropic or chemical reaction.

    No, it’s because after hearing all the horror stories, the forced screenings of Reefer Madness, the ONDCP propaganda and the lectures from teachers, preachers, and parents,
    the youth who tries cannabis is left to wonder:

    “What else did they lie to me about?”

  215. Anonymous August 16, 2009 at 9:22 am #

    Weed always leads to harder drugs. I work in a drug rehab and about 80% of people started out with marijuana.

  216. Anonymous August 14, 2009 at 7:51 am #

    THEY SAID WEED WOULDNT LEAD TO HARDER DRUGS… THEY LIED?

    or did they?

  217. Anonymous August 12, 2009 at 9:59 am #

    A wise man by the name of George Carlin once said, “Mothers Milk leads to everyhing”, so do we outlaw Mothers Milk?

  218. Anonymous August 15, 2009 at 9:30 pm #

    ..

    The argument they will always have on their side is, “Knowing that marajuana is illegal, why would someone risk so much to use and possess it?” The definition of addiction is the “allure of doing something repeatedly which has negative consequences and disregarding the risk.”

    ..

  219. Anonymous July 28, 2009 at 7:13 am #

    And by the way, smoking pot doesn’t make you stupid. Anybody who thinks that is an idiot who gets all their beliefs and opinions spoon-fed to them. I’ve known many potheads, and been a hardcore pot head at various times myself, and have never seen ANY evidence that pot makes you stupid. On the contrary, some of the most intelligent, perceptive and independent thinkers I’ve ever known have been regulars users of cannabis.

    Stupid beliefs foiled again by the weapons of logic, facts, and first-hand experience! :-)

  220. Anonymous July 25, 2009 at 12:00 pm #

    First….my question……Why do you all apposed to pot critisize those of us who smoke pot. Yes typo i know. But does being intelligent have anything to do with this at all. Some people are born stupid and some born smart and no matter what you do throughout your life your not going to change that fact…Smoking pot doesn’t make you stupid and it doesn’t kill you. Were not trying to get you straight edge people to try our way of life we just want you to leave our way of life alone. Now for my fact….It has been proven by scientist….yes by scientist for those of you apposed that pot marijuana weed hemp what ever it is you want to call it does in fact make your intellect increase. NOW…before you go arguing or calling me names and stuff and saying well your a stoner so of course your going to say that RESEARCH IT. Now if pot makes you stupid you need to come to my dudes house with me and see what its like when he gets high…..you will never see another 17 year old guy as intelligent and philosophical as he. Now stop arguing. Stoners go smoke your pot….Straight edge people either leave us alone and go about your lives preventing the people that actually care what you think from smoking….maybe your kids or family or even friends for instance….if you don’t know us leave us alone and stop trying to convert and get us in trouble.

  221. Anonymous July 25, 2009 at 11:45 am #

    your quite mistaken….i’ve done some tests personally on marijuana. 1 pot is a natural drug as every one knows and it doesn’t have any negative heath effects at all….i have never…ever heard or seen of some one dying due to smoking pot UNLESS you smoke more then your own body weights worth….Pot is not an addiction either…its all a mental issue on wether or not you think you need it…hence the true reason rehab acctually works….because if you did truelly need it you would die in rehab. As for the gateway thing….i’m 16 and have been smoking pot since i was 7 and never once have i ever tried or even want to try anything else. So as far as i can see we as people are either being lied to by so called scientific studies…or we just haven’t had the right case yet…..that and most scientist are always proven wrong at one point or another throughout history right.

  222. Anonymous July 1, 2009 at 1:07 pm #

    The real difference between tobacco and weed is that weed places 3 times the tar in your lungs as tobacco. There are 400 chemicals in tobacco, 600 known in weed. So you tell me, if you basing your smoking of weed on health facts. Isn’t tobacco less toxic than weed? Weed is not safer than tobacco

  223. Anonymous August 1, 2009 at 5:44 pm #

    … is that cannabis can open the mind to new thoughts and ideas or new ways of looking at old ideas and beliefs. This then may lead to increased awareness of the truth. And the truth will set you free, which is the *last* thing *they* want.

  224. Anonymous June 5, 2009 at 12:16 am #

    I used to smoke pot quite frequently, and during the time that I did(age 14 until 18) I’ve successfully taught myself how to program in around 7 programming/scripting/structured query languages of different functions and overall usefulness. You know what inspired me to do this? I was stoned and playing a game… Then I got a great idea, I SHOULD MAKE MY OWN GAME. That was the start of the years of research I put into learning various programming languages(as I needed them). During that time, I learned so much more than just programming, though. You should know, no game is complete without some bad-ass graphics, music, and sounds right? Well, I didn’t have money to pay for any of these. So I “rolled my own,” as some would call it, and learned as I went(using software such as Photoshop(My mother got a computer that came with it.), Renoise(Pirated… But later legally purchased.), Audacity(Great piece of open-source beauty, look it up.), Milky Tracker(Another wonderful open-source project.), just as I did with my programming.

    Did I mention I also write in my free time? I may have a few flaws(Using pseudo-words like “Yeh,” “Gotta,” etc., along with the occasional typo, like anyone else.), but if you look past those, there aren’t too many flaws in my grammar. Being a computer geek paid off, in that case… I was labeled a “n00b,” by the “smart kids,” because of my grammar… Which, at that time, I was actually converting proper grammar to chat speak, just to fit in with the rest. I was later accepted, in case you care… (I’m sure you don’t, since I’m a stoner, and all.)

    Oh, one more thing, I dropped out at 16. Not because of pot, but for personal reasons. Was tested soon after and found to have an IQ of 143, 3 points above genius. I believe I was 17 at that time… So I’ve still got so much to learn, and practice. This paragraph is here for no other reason but to invalidate any claims that “pot makes you stupid.”

    Good day. ^^

  225. Anonymous August 3, 2009 at 12:13 pm #

    Marijuana could be harmless but it’s still a drug. It could also lead up to more dangerous drugs such as meth and heroin. So it is harmful in some kind of way

  226. Anonymous May 30, 2009 at 8:45 am #

    Why don’t people listen to scientists anymore?

  227. Anonymous May 28, 2009 at 3:12 pm #

    Set the bong down and pick up a grammar book you illiterate son of a…

    why so angry? Maybe you should smoke a joint with us, we’ll laugh it off, and think about the fact that that you felt the need to hate one someone on the internet.

  228. Anonymous May 28, 2009 at 10:37 am #

    weed is noy a bad drug it treat people with cancer..

  229. Anonymous July 7, 2009 at 2:31 pm #

    700 chemicals in tobacco, 400 in marijuana as well as any other plant nature provides

  230. Anonymous May 26, 2009 at 6:05 am #

    I personally do not know anyone who smoked pot before trying alcohol and cigarettes, and I know a lot of pot smokers! I went that same route as well and have had a hell of a time trying to quit cigarettes as well as dealing with an alcoholic husband. I admit that I have also tried other drugs, however it was due to plain old curiosity and/or being under the influence of ALCOHOL (as others have stated). I believe that alcohol and cigarettes are the real gateway drugs and the most dangerous of the three! If people are so worried that kids who try marijuana will be exposed to drug dealers who will sell them other illegal drugs, then WHY wouldn’t they WANT to legalize it and diminish that risk? Oh, maybe it’s because alcohol and cigarettes are LEGAL but kids get THEM anyway!!! Kids who want to experiment will find a way to get what they want. Stop prosecuting pot users who for the most part ARE intelligent, hard-working, responsible citizens (like I said, I know a lot of them!). Legalize, or at the very least decriminalize.

  231. Anonymous May 24, 2009 at 6:50 pm #

    anyone who tries to produce a logical argument for why marijuana should be illegal is clearly misinformed. First of all if marijuana were legalized, it would be slightly harder for a 12 year old to get some weed. This is due to the fact that drug dealers do not ask for ID, honestly if all drugs were legal the number of people who use addictive drugs during adolescence would drop. There is not a single bit of evidence that proves that weed is “bad” and in my opinion if marijuana is illegal ONLY because it is unhealthy, then make alcohol and cigs illegal and make them Schedule 1 along with meth, heroine, and cocaine.

    I smoke weed on a daily basis and I get As and Bs in school. actually before I smoked weed I was getting Fs and just barely pulling them up to Ds at the end of the year. Also The only time I have ever used any “harder” drugs was when I was drunk, not high.

  232. Anonymous May 22, 2009 at 8:54 am #

    Lady Mary Jane,

    You said, “…prohibition only works for a bit, people do what they want either way.”

    Prohibition doesn’t work. Study your history. Why do you think it was repealed? Because the government saw they could make more money from taxing it than fighting it. It will be the same with marijuana. When enough people come out and say this simple truth: “Smoking a plant is not wrong”, the government will swoop in and start taxing it. They have already begun this with the medical marijuana acts you see in so many state law books now.

  233. Anonymous May 22, 2009 at 8:45 am #

    To the moron that wrote: “Your stupid”

    Enough said.

  234. Anonymous May 22, 2009 at 8:41 am #

    To the idiot who posted this:

    “You see what a life time of smoking pot does to you. Makes you write long run on sentence full of misspellings.”

    Before you correct someone’s grammar, you might want to look at your own.

    ‘Makes you write long run on sentence full of misspellings.’ This is a fragment ( which is just as incorrect as a run on sentence). You also used the word sentence instead of sentences. If you meant ‘…a long sentence full of misspellings.’ then you you were incorrect because you didn’t include the ‘a’. If you meant ‘…sentences full of misspellings.’ , you should have used the plural ‘sentence(s)’. Regardless, you’ve not proven that smoking pot makes you stupid or bad a grammar. You’ve only proven that you are intolerant, uninformed, ignorant and bad at grammar.

  235. Anonymous May 18, 2009 at 9:41 am #

    #1 People educate yourselves. #2 Stop smoking tobacco #3 Stop drinking that alcohol. # 4 Shut up and smoke the high grade. You will feel so better after reading this shit . LOL

  236. Anonymous May 5, 2009 at 2:10 pm #

    Maybe that is because the people doing this are uneducated. That would be a completely logical statement, but i think it is safe to say that there are not a group of people going around trying to legalize heroin or cocaine. And guess who told them that weed was bad…oh yeah our own government. If anything the government is to blame in your argument. They should not lie to the people

  237. Anonymous May 2, 2009 at 3:13 pm #

    All the bull shit that the government wants you to believe about weed is totally bogus. I have been a “pot head” for a little over twelve years and I do not have cancer! I do not suffer from any long term memory loss. I have a bachelor’s degree in history and associates in criminal justice. I am currently working on my bachelors in criminal justice and I will continue my education to earn a law degree. The problem with the American public today is that they believe all of the false propaganda that the government is trying to tell them is true. Smoking pot did not make me stupid! I am quit intelligent compared to other people. I am not a criminal, but the people who are against weed say that I am! This is only a great example of the government creating criminals. During prohibition people who drank one day were fine but the next day were criminals. The number one killer of Americans today is tobacco not weed, so people need to do their own research in spite of what of the government tells them to believe. All of the people reading stories of accidents and people dying of marijuana need to look deeper because every case I have seen where an accident happened leading to the death of someone, and the driver was high on weed; I have found that the drive was also drunk, but they never tell you that part of the story. In all actuality I have never reviewed a case where someone died strictly due to the causes of marijuana, anyone who died also were on the influence of another drug! I recommend that everyone do their own research. Don’t worry it won’t kill you to hear the truth!

  238. Anonymous April 29, 2009 at 12:55 am #

    You actually think smoking weed turns you into a moron?

    You know what, like Bill Hicks said, “If you don’t think drugs have done good things for us, then do me a favor, go home and take all of your records, tapes and CD’s and burn them. Cuz you know what, the musicians who made all that great music thats enhanced your life throughout the years, RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReal fuckin high drugs.”

    By the way, smoking weed isnt a gateway drug. People are far more likely to try something like a line of cocaine for the first time when they are drunk than when they are high. Its okay to drink your drug, its those other drugs, the untaxed ones that will fuck you up. Watch out for those drugs, they might just make you realize that youre being fucked over every day of your life.
    Smoking weed is like god delivering the message “Just relax and take the stick out of your ass, you working stiff neck.”

  239. Anonymous April 26, 2009 at 8:46 pm #

    I love how no one responds to the educated supporters of marijuana because there really is no way to put it down when the facts are clearly stated. It is such a harmless, productive plant that we can no longer afford to have it prohibited because of outdated, improbable myths.

  240. Anonymous April 26, 2009 at 2:26 pm #

    The fact that his sentence structure and grammer is poor has nothing to do with the fact that he smokes marijuana. I have personally qualified in test-taking competitions while under the influence of this herb. I have a 4.0 GPA and a full payed scholarship to the State University of my choice. Many non-marijuana smokers would’ve made many of the same grammatical errors that he did. It is scientifically proven that ciggarettes cause cancer. There has never been marijuana related cancer. The bud of the marijuana plant has only 33% as much tar as tobacco, and marijuana, unlike tobacco, has no radioactive chemicals. Stop putting down weed smokers who make mistakes. Would you put down someone for their ignorance if they had not smoked weed? I think thats an unfair prejudice.

  241. Anonymous April 24, 2009 at 11:54 am #

    i used to smoke every day and my grades actually went up when i began using marijuana
    i have not smoked for about 3 weeks and i am still getting A’s and doing well in school. i have not damaged my brain at all and out of all the people i know i have the best memory
    marijuana does not change the type of person you are however people who convince themselves that they need it may be different because they are psychologically addicted which is completely brought on by themselves not one bit by the marijuana
    the most harmful thing about marijuana is that most people smoke it in order to ingest it but that can be easily avoided by vaporizing it which turns it into pure marijuana vapor and does not damage your airways one bit
    you may not be influenced by user comments but you are ignorant and close-minded if you dont actually do research yourself and i know that if you actually read the studies done by scientists instead of listening to government propaganda and spewing the things that were engraved in your mind since you were a child you will not be against it
    i, too, used to be against it and never thought i would use it but i was not close-minded and actually did research and looked for myself at what the scientists were saying and realized how safe this drug actually is
    the only reason the government is against it is because if it were legalized they would not make much of a profit from it because its so easy to grow and many people would grow their own
    this is why tobacco and alcohol are legal because people cant provide those for themselves so the government makes a major profit from the sales
    if it is so dangerous and harmful to your brain then tell me how amsterdam survives economically

  242. Anonymous April 24, 2009 at 5:49 am #

    ha ha
    There is no way that none-users will “try” marijuana.

    We value our brains, as they are, undamaged. You will never get your intellect back.

    We will never be influenced by user comments.

  243. Anonymous April 23, 2009 at 10:24 pm #

    I love how the people posting here who are against marijuana seem to usually put the person who is in favor of marijuana down. Really, your arguments are so weak that you must stoop down to childish name calling. I myself would not stoop to that level. The support for the legalization/decriminalization of marijuana is ever growing, mostly because people are realizing the truth. Marijuana is not perfect, its not some magical plant, it has its downsides but compared to the already legalized substances (alcohol and tobacco) its health side effects are substantially lower. For all you people who simply want to put people down, do some research for yourself, maybe even try it…….The vast majority of people who are in opposition have never had an actual experience with the drug. I hope that in the future those in opposition can bring forth evidence in support of their argument as opposed to narrow-minded and childish comments.

  244. Anonymous April 17, 2009 at 4:02 pm #

    you know what look at a smoker of tobacco then look at a smoker of weed can you figure out the diffrience cause i know what it is one ask a smoker who smokes daily for a ciggerete then look at a kid 15 16 and see what he dose when he gets some the first thing he dose is calls his or her friends and saies hey man i just got some cool new shit bring your piece and we can smoke some bowl then go and ask a smoker of cigertettes and see what they say some will give it to you and walk away and mabey offer you a light but others will just be like no i see weed as a better thing to do if any of the two even if it is illegaile thats why ill never smoke a ciggerete peace

  245. Anonymous April 16, 2009 at 4:24 pm #

    I don’t believe this is a drug I believe this plant, such as tobacco. Another thing is that it causes peace and thoughts of love not anger. Drug dealers and people who test the limits of weed are stupid they give this plant the wrong perspective. How many deaths have occurred from weed vs. ALCOHOL which makes not only your vision bad but puts bad thoughts into your head like driving drunk, having sex with somebody with out a condom and breaking into stores to get more ALCOHOL lol. I just think it should be LEGAL.

  246. Anonymous April 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm #

    I don’t believe this is a drug I believe this plant, such a tobacco is another thing that causes peace and thoughts of love not anger. Drug dealers and people who test the limits of weed are stupid they give this plant the wrong perspective. How many deaths have occured from weed vs. ALCOHOL which makes not only makes your vision bad but puts bad thoughts into your head like driving drunk, having sex with somebody with out a condom and breaking into stores to get more ALCOHOL lol. I just think it should be LEGAL.

  247. Anonymous April 15, 2009 at 2:11 pm #

    just to let your pot smoking ass know…MAIL is spelled MALE..im assuming since you are possibly a MALE you should know how to spell your own gender. just a thought…have a nice day love you bye

    love michelle

  248. Anonymous April 14, 2009 at 4:18 am #

    Substance Abuse cannot be primarily attributed to marijuana or any other drug/substance. It is the ‘habit’ / ‘addiction’ that drives a person to keep using the substance/drug to an extent that it becomes an ‘abuse’! Also, as someone mentioned above, it could be as addictive as eating an chocolate. You never know when you start abusing anything.

  249. Anonymous April 10, 2009 at 10:21 pm #

    as a 15 year old american mail living in the heartland of america i have used marijuana recreationaly. At one time I used it every day atleast once if not more, and it was not addictive i have since quit do to my parents. Marijuanna did not cause me to be lazy or not try at school or social activities. It relaxed me and worked as good medicine stress is a main killer in america it causes many health conditions. Maybe with the utilization of marijuanna we can combat theese symptoms and problems. i believe that marijuana can help many citisenze of the united states

  250. Anonymous April 9, 2009 at 5:35 am #

    your stupid

  251. Anonymous April 9, 2009 at 5:34 am #

    wow your a douche bag

  252. Anonymous April 8, 2009 at 4:38 pm #

    When marijuana is smoked, the THC hits the sensory/memory part of the brain, and slows down your perception of time, therefore having a peaceful feeling in noticing details and connections that our brain has adapted to seeing. Of course that is not the only way to do that; time is relative anyways (time zones). So if one can control their mind to move slower, by slow deep breathes as an example, the same effects can occur. Just stop and look around you and realize (and feel) the connections of your body with the environment–a rather nice influence of science and eastern philosophy. It is extremely attractive in our constantly fast-paced culture, chock full of immediate gratification that goes along with it, dominated by caffeine and energy.No wonder why this surge in ADD has occurred. So marijuana seems to be a readily available substance that immediately changes one’s state of mind. Not to mention the medicinal uses cannabis has for patients with various disorders. However, I think that one can be addicted/attached to anything, thats part of humanity. Moderation is key here, but of course one has to recognize black and white to understand gray, just as long as the gray is understood. So once you get the message, hang up the phone….all you need is you, and sometimes a little bit of help from the earth :) I think legalization would greatly help the economy as well, prohibition only works for a bit, people do what they want either way.

  253. Anonymous April 6, 2009 at 5:29 pm #

    For me personally, I started drinking at 14 and popping pills at 15. Started smoking pot later at 15 and have been ever since (18 now). I smoked cigarettes for a couple short periods last year, and have since quit and only smoke Marijuana. So, what about the kids that don’t necessarily go in order of legality?

  254. Anonymous April 3, 2009 at 5:45 pm #

    the other reasons its not leglazied is that it makes the legal system rich for processing the people who use weed and the reason tobacco is legal is becaus e when they lehglazie d it they could tax it cause they have to process it so you can smoke it als o they cant tax weed caus e all you have to do to it is harvest it and dry it then package it and there you have it weed no labor no nothing tobacco is a long process and you add stuff to it like decon=rat killing pellets and such also it was once legal in america to smoke weed for it was legal in the 1910 or sometime close to that so what the hell happened
    alfred manch

  255. Anonymous April 3, 2009 at 5:35 pm #

    i agree i knew a bunch of kids who smoked weed ibn high school iam a sophmore and i hung out with the seniors from my running team and we drank for a while and they all smoked and one day they asked if i wanted to try it so i said yeah i tried it and i read up on it and i read up on drinking and weed is much safer for there is no realated death to smoking weed alone opposed to some one only drink beer. also the strait a thing i knew the class victorian he was strait a s and coolest kid ever very involverd in school had a steady girlfriend all through highschool and they were amazing and i my self get A’s and B’s and like one other said it opens your imangtion for i ised to suck in my creative writing class coming up with spin off but smoking weeed on the weekends and just chillin with friends i went from a c- to a b+ it was awsome also i read on the web that 11 million people in america have a substance abuse now if we leglazied weed it would drop to 3 million roughly another cool fact hemp the orignal purpose for weed is much stronger thn cotton and why do we use it we could have stavia strain crops all over producing stronger material than cotton and make it a lot easieer so iam all for leglazing it but iam not saying everyone who dosnt do it is dumb or people who do it are smaet iam just saying why dosent the goverment stop looking at it as a crime and to leglaize it but to look at what the plants can do for us. it can help cancer patients it can help aids patients it help depression pain a lot moer also so why not look as if we just discovered it look at the real reasearch not funded by the goverment and then descide on what it is

    by readiny this you proballt think i smoke everyday so did my parents when i told them this but i only smoke on weekends and when it dosent put any one on danger or me and in approite ways
    alfred

  256. Anonymous April 2, 2009 at 6:20 am #

    you guys are wierdos

  257. Anonymous April 1, 2009 at 8:03 am #

    In high school, I smoked a lot of weed, it wasn’t until my junior year that I was introduced to alcohol, and my life went to hell. Before that, I skipped a grade in school, and was set to graduate early, with straight A’s. After I started drinking, I began smoking (cigarettes), was introduced to meth, coke, heroin, and slew of other drugs. Personally, I would rather smoke than any of the above. After I got my life back on track, I am now in college again, and majoring in psychology. I still smoke occasionally. I do not push my personal beliefs onto anyone, because they are my own. I also do not appreciate anyone pushing they’re beliefs on me. Don’t take you’re personal problems out on me, if you had a bad experience with pot well, I’m sorry, that’s not my problem, I never have. Even though I still smoke on occasion, I still get honors on my work in college, and no one gives me crap for my personal beliefs. Btw, do you know that hemp can be used for several other purposes also? Not just for personal recreation? Our constitution is written on hemp… Here is a quote from our very own first president: “Make the most of the Indian Hemp Seed and sow it everywhere.” George Washington So do you’re own research before you criticize others. Thank you very much.

  258. Anonymous March 31, 2009 at 7:41 am #

    just a response to u saying that “stoners” “ARENT” strait A students fair enough not all of them are but some are and i think it is unfair for u to group the whole lot. i no quite a few smokers who are unbelivably smart what it all boils down to is circumstances legalize weed and most of these problems will finish i can garantee that these kids are smoking the weed and thinking they are fighting the power so they lose all respect for everything and anyone, i think we should start a revolution lol DO YA FEEL ME!!!!!!!!!!

  259. Anonymous April 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm #

    I have a theory about this theory. There’s no scientific data nor has there ever been to support the gateway theory. None. This was spun up as more propaganda to keep the people away from marijuana. It’s all about the threshold. Some people are terrified of downloading music illegally. However, as soon they do it the first time without repercussion’s, they look back on their fear of doing it as unfounded. “I was just being silly”, a person might think. This may lead to downloading more music, or even going a step further, downloading a movie. This is how it happened with me, and others I had talked to. The most common response to the question “what made you download a movie after downloading songs?” was “after the first time, nothing bad happened and it seemed safe”. Relating the “pot is a gateway drug” argument to this, downloading music is a gateway to downloading movies. Is it physical addiction? No, it’s the threshold. The threshold in this case is the boundary between legal and illegal. Once a person downloads a song, they cross the threshold. They’ve experienced it, and did it without any trouble. After the first, a second doesn’t seem so big. Or a third. After a while, they download bigger things. When a person smokes marijuana, the most tame of all illicit substances, they cross this threshold. Nothing they were told about marijuana is true, so they relate this to the other substances their dealer might have.

    “Wanna try cocaine?”
    “I don’t know, I’ve been told cocaine is bad and addictive.”
    “Isn’t that what you said about pot?”
    “Hmm…”

    Personally, I did do cocaine because of this reason. It wasn’t very smart, but I was younger and it was a mistake I learned from, which we could use more of(alcohol prohibition anyone?). Luckily I don’t have an addictive personality, so when I ran out of money for cocaine, I accepted that. Others can’t accept this, and they do whatever they need to do to get more.

    It doesn’t happen this way for everyone, but it does for many. It’s unfortunate but the reason is that the government has lumped cannabis, heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine and others into the same category. With basic reasoning, one could assume that since marijuana didn’t make them fiend for more, it might be the same about cocaine. What’s sad is that cocaine actually is dangerous, and people get caught off guard. To quote Rick James, “cocaine’s a hell of a drug”. When people think about seeking help, they’re afraid to at risk of getting in trouble for using the drug in the first place. I can’t even stress how much it’s just not supposed to be that way.

    Anyone who has smoked knows what they were told in the past about it was lies, at least if they went through a DARE program like my peers. The people whose lives it didn’t have the slightest negative effect on, are the people you never hear about. It’s always lies and slander. A whole new world was opened up to me about the positive effects of marijuana, but I had to use my time well and look hard for it. The internet is changing these things though, as positive marijuana testimonials are as easy to find as a few words and a search engine. It’s becoming evident as I see more and more arguments from anti-prohibitionists on a daily. Every day, someone’s eyes are opened to the truth. When a person is actually told the reasons why marijuana was made illegal and why it still is, they appear confused. Usually followed by anger, but for me it was more calm. I knew what I needed and still need to do. Tell people the truth. It’s pretty simple. You don’t even have to make stuff up. In my opinion, the anti-prohibitionists side is easier to take in this argument because what most people still believe are just lies, and these lies are laughably simple to counter with a small bit of reasoning. It’s fun for me, which is why I spend my free time thinking about this topic.

    Education is the key. When debating this topic, keep a level head, and don’t give your opponent any room to throw a arbitrary stoner stereotype your way. Stay cool, be dignified and represent your peers well, and maybe some of these stereotypes such as “stupid” and “lazy” will no longer be related to pot smokers. They never truly fit anyway.

  260. Anonymous March 17, 2009 at 3:18 pm #

    I’m the “smart kid” in every class…and a pot head…so whats this crap about it being bad? It can’t kill you and yet one sharpie sniffed can kill enough brain cells to do noticable damage. Besides, the one friend I have that does anything harder never smoked the blessed plant.

  261. Anonymous March 19, 2009 at 10:13 pm #

    Word to that… I am that kid as well… Graduating an entire year early- and not for self indulgement later- but to go to college to study. I just think people have it so wrong to say all these things, create all these stereotypes, and make millions miserable with no legitimate reason.

  262. Anonymous July 16, 2009 at 1:39 pm #

    i feel that it IS usally best to educate yourself on things that you decide that you “know” all about. And just so you know grouping people into one big group and making an assumption about them when you havent even met them all is a form a bigatry that im sure that your maker looks down.

  263. Anonymous February 25, 2009 at 2:04 pm #

    Hmmm. All I have to say is screw the studies and look at the facts. If you look around ANY high school, the teenagers catorgorized under “stoners” AREN’T the straight A students and don’t participate in any extra cirrucular activities. I believe weed ruins relationships and makes you say stupid things that aren’t yourself!! If your going to smoke pot, look around you first.

  264. Anonymous February 6, 2009 at 8:13 am #

    good old U. of Pittsburgh Medical, doing more great work like they have consistently done over the years…..

    (from a Carnegie-Mellon alumnus, even though CMU and Pitt are traditional down-the-street rivals)

  265. Anonymous February 5, 2009 at 9:01 am #

    i love how all the people that talk about how it should be illegal en stuff jus basically copy and paste stuff from an anti-drug website that is obviously going to be very biased so before you judge try it dont just go with what the government tells you, i dont understand why you would do that anyway after all the government hides stuff from us all the time, its like believing a liar to give a truthful answer it just isnt gunna happen

  266. Anonymous February 5, 2009 at 1:52 am #

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  267. Anonymous February 4, 2009 at 9:17 am #

    just one thing, the definition of drug is something created or manipulted by human hands to have a desired reactions. Marijuana is 100% natural plant that God himself put on this planet, man doesnt need to do anything to or for it. It just grows. Every other “drug” has to have something done to it.

  268. Anonymous February 4, 2009 at 9:07 am #

    It is down right ridiculous that after all these years and studies that marijuana is still illegal. Marijuana is not addictive is someone wants to quit you can its easy to quit. The chemicals in marijauna do not kill brain cells any faster then drinking beer, smoking ciggerates or even the caffine in soda. The laws are crazy, the government wants to take a good hard working citizen and make them into a criminal. If someone is found quilty on even a minor pot charge; they lose their license for 6 months and when you get it back you have to have sr22 insurance which is like 1200 a month. And they lose all abilty to get finacial aid from the government for college. How can a person better themselves when their oburtunities to are taken away. The use of marijuana does not lead to other drugs. What leads to other drugs are the stupid laws that makes these people criminals because if you can’t better yourselve because of what the government has done, if life cant get better then these people will run to other things for confort, like harder drugs, thats human nature. Another thing is marijuana does not make you do bad in school if do care about your future thats what makes someone do bad in college. The law on marijauna should be that a person 18 years or older should be able to buy and smoke marijuana when they want to. Only resonsible adults should be allowed to do it though because as child you can abuse it because you do not yet understand the responsiblities of life. And those people that say marijauna is like drinking you are 10000000% wrong drinking a lot will kill you your liver cant take the alchol, and you cant opperate a car after do it but in smoking weed it “cant”kill you no one as died from smoking to much weed, you can very easly opperate a car high and actual better then you can not high because you are more observesive and careful. High drivers dont kill people drunk drivers kill people. Talking on the phone, eating, and doing many other “normal” things is much more likely to cause a wreck then being high on marijauna. The american bullsh*t laws piss me off so much they need to keep thier freaking noses out the personal business of the people. Like how america was founded to be.

  269. Anonymous February 3, 2009 at 3:03 pm #

    You have all made some really good points. It’s funny too. Your spelling sucks, you braindead stoners. That having been said, I smoke weed. Not much anymore (I’m 31, I have a wife and family), but I still like to get high every now and again. Two or three puffs, watch some Sportscenter, I’m there. I can see where the anti-weed people are coming from based on how I used to smoke it. An ounce a week, for five years, smoking while driving, before dinner, after dinner, before work, after work, during work, etc….Point is, most people grow out of that. People mature and realize they like weed in their brains, they just don’t need to have it there constantly. The only problem I see with marijuana, truly, is that it can make you OK with being bored. It can make you complacent. Instead of going out and learning something or experiencing something, the pothead opts to get baked. And while that isn’t the greatest crime against humanity that can be commited, it isn’t the best way to go about things. It should be legal. Legalizing pot alone would erase the deficit (think about it. Readily available weed…C’Mon). And the true gateway drugs are alcohol and cigarettes. I’m sorry but it’s true. I’ve done every drug under the sun (most of them) and this is the order I did them in: Booze, Butts, Pot, Acid, Opium, Coke (lots of coke), Heroin. I never developed a problem with any of them (although I did use blow heavily in my mid-20’s) but in the end, you realize what you like and stick with it. I stopped buying weed in bulk because I take so long to smoke it. The last ounce I bought lasted seven months. Now I just buy eighths or quarters. Take it from someone who knows…

  270. Anonymous February 2, 2009 at 11:25 am #

    MARJAUNA is not as harmful as alot of drugs or alcohol but it can do some bad like for instance give u the f en munchies that makes alot of food taste fuken gooood and make u make a lot of food to eat that isn t good for your health but it can be usefull like make you happy or if u can t sleep after all this writing i’ll get to my point weed isn t a bad drug its just that the government wote legallize it because i don’t know y but i think its be cuz they don t want a bonch of people walking around and giving the us a more of a bad name than it has but only they really know or don t

    but i don t really care i just got bored and found this web site
    so if u don t agreee u can suck a dick for all i care

  271. Anonymous March 25, 2009 at 9:53 pm #

    im just gunna say this.
    Mary Jane is a fuckin natural drug think about it asswipes if there is a GOD he would have wanted us 2 try it and fucking using it….its ther for a damn reason.

  272. Anonymous March 25, 2009 at 9:48 pm #

    yepp honestly i know yu haven’t tried it. your dumb sack of shit, first of all how would you know it makes you say stupid things? cuz it doesn’t it helps you say the things you have in your mind you want to say. so why don’t you just go go to hell and burn.

    what doesnt fuckin kill you these days?………did you know nicatine is more harmful than THC? It has not been scientificly proven thta it kills brain cells or hurts your lungs because scientist can not try more than2 joints. Therefore it is not proven to be a gateway drug & not proven to be addicting.

    P.S. YUR A DICK SLURPER

  273. Anonymous November 4, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

    Weed has been studied for over 25 years. Where have you gotten your info from because you are SERIOUSLY mistaken. As clinical research into the therapeutic value of cannabinoids has proliferated – there are now more than 17,000 published papers in the scientific literature analyzing marijuana and its constituents — so too has investigators’ understanding of cannabis’ remarkable capability to combat disease. Whereas researchers in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s primarily assessed cannabis’ ability to temporarily alleviate various disease symptoms — such as the nausea associated with cancer chemotherapy — scientists today are exploring the potential role of cannabinoids to modify disease.
    Investigators are also studying the anti-cancer activities of cannabis, as a growing body of preclinical and clinical data concludes that cannabinoids can reduce the spread of specific cancer cells via apoptosis (programmed cell death) and by the inhibition of angiogenesis (the formation of new blood vessels). Arguably, these latter trends represent far broader and more significant applications for cannabinoid therapeutics than researchers could have imagined some thirty or even twenty years ago.
    State facts instead of your opinion and I might actually listen to you.

  274. Anonymous August 27, 2009 at 1:08 pm #

    I’ve had a father that tried them all, from mj to LSD passing through heroin and a lot more.
    How can anyone in a medical center say it’s not a gateway drug. Because they asked the blood cells if they wanted coke next?

    I’ve seen the decadence mj and the rest bring. It’s not small. I wrote an article in my blog about it recently.
    http://ourearthlyrights.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-i-believe-in-drug-education.html

  275. Anonymous April 2, 2009 at 1:15 pm #

    I smoke marijuana almost every weekend and afterschool sometimes. I agree that its a mental game because for one, the reason we have laws is becuase of the irresponsible people who make stupid desicions. before I started smokin weed i was stupid as shit and when I started my mind opened more. I have a larger imagination and that helps with school it gives you more creativity as a person. i do alot better in school now and Ive been smokin for about 3 years now =] I do smoke cigs but i was addicted to cigs before i started smokin weed so yeah. and drinkin i would if I was old enough but im not so I don’t. being drunk makes you do a lot more stupid things then marijuana definatly.So if people just think before doing these things then maybe our world would have more freedom to smoke marijuana! and for the people I chill wit I dont think that I could fit in wit any other group,i kno people in other kinds of “groups” but i dnt chill wit them. so yeahh smokin weed helps my anxiety and depression. it makes me happy and I fit in wit tha people I chill wit. I have an emotional attachment to marijuana I love it and i always will even if i cant smoke it at some point, ill dream about it……..

  276. Anonymous August 15, 2009 at 8:07 am #

    There is no such thing as a gateway drug. Addictions are symptoms of an underlying genetic disease called Hypoism. Initial use of an addictor(substance or behavioral) is a choice. The book has been written for 13 years now. If you want to reach a new level of self-understanding check this website out. http://www.hypoism.com This is the real deal. Hope it helps!

  277. Anonymous August 13, 2009 at 3:20 pm #

    your from reddit, arnt you. i’am lol

  278. Anonymous February 19, 2009 at 6:14 pm #

    It is illegal because of Govt. FAILURE & they cannot control it
    LOL
    because the dolts (american people) in America made it so, out of fear & also so that the Govt. could control people. (AS ALWAYS)
    If they cannot manipulate & control you, they loose their power. GET IT ?

    Now? What makes a really, really good LIAR a good liar ? ? ?

  279. Anonymous February 19, 2009 at 11:51 am #

    There never was a gateway property, inherent to Marijuana itself. It was nothing more than a backwards correlation fallacy, and statistical manipulation.
    In reality, only 1 in 100 Marijuana users ever try anything harder, that’s just 1%, certainly not enough to suggest Marijuana was the cause of it. And even LESS than that actually stick with a harder drug, becoming users of it. For most, Marijuana is the end of the line, they don’t care for anything harder.

    AT THE VERY MOST, It is the Prohibition of Marijuana, which contributes to people trying harder drugs. If it was legal, this would not be the case.
    Prohibition creates unregulated black markets for it, and those dealers push harder drugs. Which wouldn’t happen under legalization.
    Prohibition forces drug tests on TONS of people… and since Marijuana is the EASIEST to detect drug, users sometimes start using harder drugs, because they wont get caught as easilly. The list of why prohibition causes this, goes on for a while.

    Legalization solves more problems than Prohibition… Prohibition is counterproductive towards it’s own goals, hypocritical, creates more problems than the drug does, and is unfair in a free society.

  280. Anonymous February 12, 2009 at 10:49 am #

    i love how all the people that talk about how it should be illegal en stuff jus basically copy and paste stuff from an anti-drug website that is obviously going to be very biased so before you judge try it dont just go with what the government tells you, i dont understand why you would do that anyway after all the government hides stuff from us all the time, its like believing a liar to give a truthful answer it just isnt gunna happen

  281. Anonymous February 12, 2009 at 8:53 am #

    u know. im 16 and i smoke pot at least 4 days of the week. im doin fine in school. i have a wider vocabulary than most of the “model” students. but i do think that people should mature first. such as doing it on your own time. not during school, work, social gatherings. thats irresponsible. but having realized that at 16 and have been smoking for 3 years counter-proves every1s theory that it makes you a lazy and idiotic person. if i can realize this, than so should adults twice my age. and as for the gateway theory. i started smoking weed and i dont drink or smoke tobacco. its all a mental game. you can quit if you want. but it is not needed to get by in life. just wait and see.

  282. Anonymous March 3, 2009 at 7:04 am #

    Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC- Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer
    John S. James

    AIDS TREATMENT NEWS Issue #263, January 17, 1997; Published twice monthly Subscription and Editorial Office: P.O. Box 411256 San Francisco, CA 94141 800/TREAT-1-2 toll-free U.S. and Canada 415/255-0588 regular office number fax: 415/255-4659 Internet: aidsnews@aidsnews.org

    AIDS TREATMENT NEWS has obtained a 126-page draft report of a major toxicology study of THC, the main psychoactive ingredient of marijuana. The study was completed over two and a half years ago, and passed peer review for publication, but has been kept quiet until this month, when someone leaked copies of the draft report. As far as we know, the public has never been told about this research — for example, the drug- reform movement seems not to have known about its existence. This work may have been hushed because its findings are not what the drug-war industry would want.

    The study gave huge doses of THC to rats and mice by stomach tube, and looked for cancers and other evidence of toxicity. First there were small toxicity studies, which used enough THC to kill some of the animals; later, two-year studies were run in both rats and mice, using doses which were still much higher than those of marijuana smokers. The two-year studies tested THC in several hundred rats and several hundred mice.

    In rats, those given THC had a clear survival advantage over the untreated controls; this effect was statistically significant in all dose groups, and in both males and females. In mice (which were given much larger doses than the rats relative to body weight) there was no survival difference among the groups — except that those given the highest dose (which was close to the lethal dose for mice) had worse survival.

    In both mice and rats, in both males and females, “the incidence of benign and malignant neoplasms … were decreased in a dose-dependent manner” — meaning that the more THC the animals were given, the fewer tumors they developed.

    The treated animals weighed less than the controls (even though both ate about the same amount of food); the researchers speculated that the lower body weight may have partly accounted for the increased survival and reduced tumors in the THC-treated animals.

    The doses were large enough to cause seizures and convulsions in many of the animals, especially when they were dosed or handled. These did not start immediately, but after many weeks, depending on the dose. The researchers looked for brain lesions in animals which had seizures, but found none.

    No evidence of carcinogenic activity in the rats, but there was “equivocal evidence” of one kind of thyroid tumor in the mice — with no evidence of a dose-dependent response. Other tumors were less common in the treated animals than in the controls — except in one case, which the toxicologists believed was due to the fact that the treated animals lived longer, and therefore had more opportunity to develop tumors.

    The report includes a professionally objective review of the biological effects, possible toxicities, and possible medical uses of THC and marijuana.

    The title of the report is “NTP Technical Report on the Toxicology and Carcinogenesis Studies of 1-Trans-Delta(9)- Tetrahydrocannabinol (CAS No. 1972-08-3) in F344/N Rats and B6C3F(1) Mice (Gavage Studies).” Over 35 researchers contributed to this study, and 12 others reviewed their work; several institutions, including the National Toxicology Program and SRI International, were involved. The document we received is report NTP TR 446, NIH Publication No. 94-3362, of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. (“NTP” stands for National Toxicology Program, which is made up of four Federal agencies within Health and Human Services.) Each page of the draft is stamped “not for distribution or attribution.” In addition to the 126-page document we have reviewed here, there are 11 appendices, which we have not seen.

    According to the draft, the report will be available from NTP Central Data Management, 919/541-1371. AIDS TREATMENT NEWS requested a copy of the final report when it is ready, and also requested a copy of the draft. Now that the existence of the report has become publicly known, we have heard that draft copies are being sent if requested — despite the notice on each page not to distribute them.

    Comment

    It would be wrong to interpret this study as showing a beneficial or protective effect of marijuana. The animals were given very large doses, resulting in substantially lower body weight, which may itself have caused much of the survival and tumor improvements. Also, this study used THC, not marijuana smoke — which like any smoke contains many chemicals, some of which are likely to be harmful.

    But the study does provide strong evidence that there is no significant cancer risk (if any at all) from the main psychoactive ingredient of marijuana; any such risk would be from incidental substances in the smoke. And if there is such a risk, the modern high-potency marijuana would likely reduce it, by reducing the amount of smoke required to obtain the desired effect.

    Also, there is no known case of any human death from overdose of marijuana or THC, or from any other acute toxicity of these substances — a remarkable safety record, compared with alcohol, aspirin, or many other common drugs. (The toxicology report does not say there have been no deaths, but the authors listed none, after doing an exhaustive survey of the literature.)

    The literature review on the effects of THC and marijuana shows how medical research has been politically skewed (although the paper itself does not state this point). There are almost no studies of possible medical uses of marijuana, but many studies looking for possible harm. Any positive findings, therefore, can be used to support the drug war — while negative findings (those which fail to show any effect) are usually ignored. Although many doctors and patients have reported important medical benefits, scientific studies of medicinal use have seldom been allowed to happen, since positive findings could challenge the official public- relations tactic of demonization. The drug war itself has controlled the medical research agenda, since it controls legal access to marijuana. Like most permanent wars, it strives for self preservation.

    The newly available Federal toxicology study provides the best evidence yet that the risks of THC are small. What other drug would increase life expectancy of rats when given in huge overdoses daily for two years? The recent Federal attacks on medical marijuana — against doctors and desperately ill patients — are needlessly cruel, and bizarrely inappropriate to scientific and medical understanding.

  283. Anonymous March 3, 2009 at 7:00 am #

    Study Shows Marijuana Smoke Does Not Raise Cancer Risk
    Thursday, May 25, 2006

    A study presented at a meeting of the American Thoracic Society on May 24 found that smoking marijuana, even heavily, does not increase the risk of cancer. The study was headed by Dr. Donald Tashkin of the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA.

    Tashkin, who has studied the effects of marijuana on the lungs for years, had expected the study to reveal that heavy marijuana use results in elevated cancer risk.

    Past studies have yielded varied results on this question, but most were conducted on a small scale and possibly affected by bias. The large-scale UCLA study focused on 2,200 people, about 1,200 of whom had lung, oral, laryngeal or esophageal cancer.

    The study used personal interviews to collect information about lifetime marijuana, tobacco and other drug use, as well as information about family history of cancer, diet and other possible factors. The result was that people who smoked marijuana, even those who smoked heavily for years, were at no greater risk of developing cancer than those who did not smoke. In contrast, people who smoked more than two packs of cigarettes per day were 20 times more likely to develop cancer than those who smoked nothing.

    Tashkin said that past studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain many of the same carcinogenic chemicals found in cigarette smoke. The findings of the study now have researchers considering the possibility that marijuana may have a protective effect against cancer, perhaps deterring tumor growth.

  284. Anonymous January 30, 2009 at 6:53 am #

    much like alcohol, marijuana is a mood altering substance. it impairs judgement and there are certain common situations where this type of impairment would be detrimental to the safety of both the user as well as anyone around them. it is different from alcohol in how many people are privately producing their own product; there is no way to effectively regulate it.

    i am not an advocate of legalization; I’ve seen the impact; I’ve seen too many cases of it being, along with cigarettes, used as a gateway drug. it’s all about moral relativity. I’m using weed and i feel good. if this is how weed makes me feel, crack must be better and so on…

  285. Anonymous April 21, 2009 at 2:52 pm #

    Response to the writer of “you know what look at a.” You are not doing any good to the people who want to legalize marijuana. You see what a life time of smoking pot does to you. Makes you write long run on sentence full of misspellings. Set the bong down and pick up a grammar book you illiterate son of a…

  286. Anonymous January 27, 2009 at 3:42 pm #

    The US policy on marijuana is one of the least scientific, and quite frankly, most idiotic, policies at this time. Much safer and far less addictive than alcohol or tobacco, and with documented, studied, accepted, medicinal value. There are negative effects also, but these are minor compared to the two legal drugs I mentioned.

  287. Anonymous January 26, 2009 at 2:01 pm #

    Who the hell cares, you don’t see people fussing about the fact that many people buy cigarettes for underage children all the time. Educate yourself!!!

  288. Anonymous January 19, 2009 at 6:37 pm #

    i completely agreee that marijuana is not a gateway drug. I believe it is a person’s choice whether he/she chooses to take their drug usage to the next level. i think that marijuana is just like alcohol and tobacco with the exception that marijuana is illegal and if i werent restricted people wouldnt abuse it as much, simply because its not off limits.

  289. Anonymous January 8, 2009 at 8:35 am #

    marijuana isnt a gateway drug…. it mostly depends the neighborhood and what other kinds of drugs revolve in it…. i also depends on peer pressure, but its notlike anyone got a gun to your head and telling you to smoke…. marijuana also is used in medical treatments with people who have HIV, Pain, and Cancer,so we need to legalize it before its too late…………..email @ maketerror@yahoo.com

  290. Anonymous January 5, 2009 at 10:28 pm #

    Marijuana has signifigant medical value. It should be legal for many reasons. It has negative effects but it also has medical value and some people really need it in their lives. If people want to go smoke instead of drink, then should have the right to do so. The government spends tax payers money on putting people away to prison. It cost $200,000 a year for one prisoner. Also, they spend billions of dollars to put advertisments on TV.

  291. Anonymous January 2, 2009 at 8:16 pm #

    To me whether it’s a gateway drug or not isn’t really the issue. Smoking marijuana has more than enough negative effects in its own right, without having to use the excuse that it may lead to using other drugs, as a reason not to abuse it.

    Marijuana Addiction Forum
    http://www.forummatters.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16

  292. Anonymous December 31, 2008 at 12:42 pm #

    The punishment for having weed is ridiculous…all states should make under 1oz a civil matter not criminal…

  293. Anonymous December 28, 2008 at 2:09 am #

    Thank god! Let people smoke whatever the fuck they want. I’m tired of these conservative tight asses who give into propaganda, and now fear a PLANT. Why don’t you try lighting up a ‘marijuana cigarette’ and see what all the fuss is about? I’m 100% sure that after that, you’ll wonder what the big deal is. Alcohol destroys you, it’s legal, and available everywhere. Why don’t you bitch about that?

    (By the way, all the liberals KNEW what they were voting for, and it feels soooo good.)

  294. Anonymous December 17, 2008 at 8:53 am #

    hell ya there is nothen wrong with it

  295. Anonymous December 4, 2008 at 7:24 pm #

    i know doctors teachers hell i smoked with my teachers if u think weed is a gateway drug its because you are a weak willed person. i been smoking weed for almost 9 years now and i never once thought o damn now i want exstacy so no your wrong its the person that chooses. If weed is a gateway drug what was the gateway drug you used that started you on weed?
    if you had an urge to do drugs in the first place dont blame the weed blame yourself for being a fucken idiot no shit your going to want to do more drugs u started off wanting to do drugs so put the blame where it belongs on yourself

  296. Anonymous December 1, 2008 at 9:08 pm #

    The only people that voted for proposal 1 were all the liberals that did not know what they were really voting for. Marijuanna is now going to be used constantly by people who do not need it in the first place. Now they have a reason to grow it in their own homes. They could very well be selling it to other people, and will get away with it, because it would be too hard for the police to track down.

  297. Anonymous November 30, 2008 at 10:01 am #

    Prohibition causes Cannabis to be a gateway drug. Without prohibition there’d be no dealers on the street saying “You wanna try something stronger?” So prohibition has caused Cannabis to be a gateway drug, however, there’s nothing IN cannabis that makes you want to do something else. It is the person who chooses it, and it is the dealer who made it knowledge to you.

    Stick to pot, it doesn’t kill you. Alcohol kills, tobacco kills, cocaine kills, heroin kills, Tylenol Kills.

    Stick to pot.

  298. Anonymous November 21, 2008 at 9:26 pm #

    I smoke weed all the time it lead me to doing mushrooms mushrooms lead to doing ecstasy and lsd and they lead to cocaine i dont care what any stoner has to say ( which I am) pot is a gateway drug and im not saying everyone that smokes weed is goin to do other drugs im just saying u dont meet many ppl that have done ecstasy or acid that didnt try weed first noone just decides one day im gonna try ecstasy they get the feeling of what drugs are like and weed is virtually impossible to have a bad reaction off so the persons like well if pot did that to me something better will be even funner, but weed to me makes it easier not to do other drugs because i dont feel in the party mood I just wanna watch movies and eat so weed leads to and prevents you from doing hard drugs if that makes sense to neone. my advice is this try lsd E mushrooms once and stick to weed cocaine is proly better to leave alone………..stay in school kids

  299. Anonymous November 10, 2008 at 8:19 pm #

    I blame Citizen Kane (aka William Randolph Hearst and his opposition to people making profits off of hemp farms – which he did not own – instead of lumber – which he did own) and Puritans.

  300. Anonymous November 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm #

    I was searching on the web and I found an article that said in 1974 a U.S. Government study was conducted on lab rats that had cancerous tumors was extensively test with marijuana smoke. When the test was complete the cancers shrunk which lead to believe that marijuana is like the miracle drug that cures cancer. Later in 1997 studies on marijuana proved that people who have cancer benefits from medicinal marijuana because the cannabinoids in marijuana reduces the rate of reproduction of the cancer cells and will shrink the cancer. It is cheaper than synthetic cancer meds that are more expensive ($800 a pill) and less effective than the naturally grown marijuana.
    As for the addiction. Marijuana is just as addictive as eating chocolate. Those of you who love the to eat a whole box of chocolate in one shot. There is no chemical like nicotine in tobacco that will make you addicted. I simply do not see how it is addictive. I think it’s the habit simply rolling it, lighting, and smoking it. Some people just eat it and like the taste… So what I want you guys to do is when you read an article saying how ‘addictive’ marijuana is, just replace “marijuana” with “chocolate” and “smoking” with “eating”. So basically you are now criminalizing chocolate instead of marijuana.

  301. Anonymous November 5, 2008 at 2:09 pm #

    The whole thing was a racist law!!against Mexicans and Blacks. same reason opium-chinese and cocaine- blacks are illegal..*Doesnt kill brain cells* and hemp is actually considered to be the most Useful plant known to Man.look it up

  302. Anonymous October 22, 2008 at 10:54 pm #

    marijuana does not impair memory in the slightest. every single time i have smoked i have perfect recollection of the events that took place. i smoked every day at band camp and i was able to memorize seven minutes worth of music and complicated drill charts in a week. also, marijuana is not addicting either. your body does not become dependant on it no matter how much is consumed. however you “can” become psychologically addicted. i say “can” because i don’t believe in psychological addiction. anything that on THINKS they are addicted to can be overcome. studies have also shown that the majority of people who smoke marijuana regularly, stop around the age of 35. therefore, the statement “i can quit i just don’t have a need to.” does not count as psycological addiction. they really don’t have a need to. if there arises an occasion that it is imperative that they quit, then i guarantee that they have the ability to. it’s all will power. make sure you have the facts, check out Erowid.org.

  303. Anonymous October 22, 2008 at 10:44 pm #

    The chemical in marijuana that gets one high is called THC. Now, if you research that you will find that THC is theoretically impossible to overdose on. One would have to consume a third of their body weight to “die”. This cannot be tested therefore, it is theory. So, I do not believe you when you say you know someone who has died from marijuana. Even smoke inhilation would not kill a person. It will lessen the strength of one’s lungs over a long time, similar to cigarette smoking, except marijuana DOES NOT cause lung cancer. There has not been a single report saying that marijuana ALONE has caused cancer. Any one who has been diagnosed with lung cancer and has smoked marijuana has also smoked cigarettes. The only way I could be convinced that you know someone who died from marijuana, is if they did something stupid while high. However, that would mean that the person is stupid or has no self control. I have smoked before, and therefore I can maintain self control, no matter the amount of THC consumed. Well, that concludes my rant to prove you wrong. If you, or anyone for that matter thinks I am wrong, check out Erowid.org. Notice the .org tag, that means that it is an official site, unlike the .com sites where anyone can post whatever they want and have it misconstrewed as fact.

  304. Anonymous October 21, 2008 at 5:45 pm #

    This is a tough issue to decide on because of the implications that marijuana has in our society. Although I have never partaken in experimenting with any marijuana or required to take any for medicinal purposes; I do believe that marijuana should be legalized. After researching and looking at both sides, I feel that there are more pros for legalizing marijuana then cons.
    I believe the primary reason we should legalize marijuana is because it will save our government tons of money. In the United States all levels of government (federal, state, and local authorities) are involved with “War on Drugs.” We currently spend billions of dollars every year to prevent people from using marijuana. We then have to pay for housing, food, clothing, court costs, and other expenses to lock these people up. Our nation could save billions of dollars every year if we legalize marijuana. The government would actually be able to tax marijuana and would be able to spend that money to pay for effective drug education programs and other important causes.
    The second major reason is that there is no good evidence that prohibition decreases drug use. “Prohibition of marijuana doesn’t work. It has only spawned an enormous black market, eroded our civil rights and corrupted our justice system (soyouwanna.com/site/pros_cons/pot/potz.html).” It is actually easier for some high school students to obtain marijuana than it is for them to obtain alcohol, because alcohol is legal and therefore regulated to keep it away from kids. “If our goal is to reduce drug consumption, then we should focus on open and honest programs to educate youth, regulation to keep drugs away from kids, and treatment programs for people with drug problems. But the current prohibition scheme does not allow such reasonable approaches

    to marijuana; instead we are stuck with ‘DARE’ police officers spreading lies about drugs in schools, and policies that result in jail time rather than treatment for people with drug problems (www.economics.about.com/od/incometaxestaxcuts/a/marijuana.htm).”
    The final reason is because it can be used as medicine that shows new promise for reducing neuropathic pain and in helping patients with AIDS to stick with their multiple-drug regimens. It can be used to treat patients for various diseases. I strongly believe that more good can come out of legalizing marijuana in the long run. Individuals should have the right to decide for themselves and should understand the consequences of using marijuana.

  305. Anonymous October 17, 2008 at 5:43 pm #

    Marijuana of course is a natural medicine. Something that grows out of soil with no human involvement is obviously natural. Alcohol is a man made invention and far more dangerous than Cannabis. When anyone smokes marijuana they become extremely peaceful and creative. I am 16, a smoker myself, and I don’t see why it is sad that younger people are smoking cannabis. They can see the truth behind the governmental spun lies. It sounds like you’ve gotten most of your information from mainstream media.I suggest you use a search engine to find different resources, in order to ponder on other ideas and opions. Better yet, go to a music festival, try some of the holy bud, and have a blast!

    Have a grateful day!
    Peace

  306. Anonymous October 10, 2008 at 12:41 am #

    Marijuana is illegal for the simple fact that the government makes more money off it by locking people up than they would by taxing it

    The gov’t makes about $30,000 off each inmate, well over 10 million a year.
    Most people are locked up because of a charge including marijuana.

    You say marijuana is a drug because that is what the gov’t refers to it as.

    If you check your sources a drug is any substance that alters your physical state and/or state of mind. Therefore making cigarettes and brew a drug.

    I would rather see my kid hitting a bong rather than seeing him smoke a cigarette.
    At least i know marijuana isnt going to hurt him as bad and it will ease their mind.

    If marijuana was legal, youd still have the choice of buying a pack of joints or not. JUST LIKE CIGARETTES AND ALCOHOL.

    Hell, ALCOHOL should have remained illegal and cannabis legal.

  307. Anonymous July 28, 2009 at 7:06 am #

    Of course weed isn’t a gateway drug, you know why? BECAUSE THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A GATEWAY DRUG!

    Really. Its the most fallacious logic ever sold to the public, and of course people lapped it up. I cant believe anybody ever bought into it. By the same logic it could be argued that breast feeding leads to heroin addiction. Its real easy, watch this: Billy’s a heroin addict, before that he smoked weed, before that he drank beer, before that he drank tea, before that his mother breast fed him… Well, obviously his mother f***ed him up!

    You wanna know what causes hard drug addiction? Taking hard drugs.

  308. Anonymous October 5, 2008 at 7:14 pm #

    The biggest reason marijuana IS a gateway drug is because it’s in the hands of the crooks who deal the hard drugs.

  309. Anonymous February 24, 2009 at 6:53 am #

    I’m not argueing, i think. HAW HAW, but weed is my main drug and i like the feeling i never did anything stupid enough to get to jail or shit it made me calm, they should legalize it!

    WEED IS FUN!!!!

  310. Anonymous April 13, 2009 at 4:58 pm #

    Drugs are a health issue. Not a perceived criminal issue that LE would have you want to believe. As with anything, I have observed, follow the money. The LE, prison industrial complex, and Rehabilitation Industry have a lot to lose if drugs were to be decriminalized and treated in a doctor – patient treatment.

    Most of the harm that comes from drugs is because they are illegal.
    – Milton Friedman

    Rev.Sleezy
    Minister, Universal Life Church

  311. Anonymous August 9, 2008 at 6:57 pm #

    Marijuana definetely does not lead to heavier drug use. I have smoked pot for almost three years and have not even had a dsire to try anything harder like heroin because i understand how addictive it is. Marijuana should be legalized because it is not a gateway drug, our government could tax the hell out of it to help boost the economy, and because it does not cause any type of long-term disease. Watch the movie Super High Me because it follows a guy who had smoked for thirty years and he had a check-up, at which the doctor said there was ZERO long term damage to his body. He also did better on the SAT high versus when he was sober.
    It should also be legalized because it helps cancer patients. My aunt was diagnosed with breast cancer and she became addicted to morphine which was her pain killing drug during chemo. She tried hard to use as little morphine as possible but she said she would wake up screaming during the night. Marijuana also does not produce that “there but not there” experience like morphine.
    Those of you who think it should be illegal have fallen for the DARE propaganda where they tell you if you smoke one blunt you will di. Pot is only illegal because of movies in the 1930s like Reefer Madness, a film in which they show men of color acting crazy as a result of smoking.

  312. Anonymous August 4, 2008 at 4:41 pm #

    I smoke almost everyday and I work 2 full time jobs. It helps me relax and concentrate on what I am doing, also I think alot better when I am high, I think more “outside the box” as they say. I don’t know why everyone things its a bad “drug”, I mean its just a planet that grows like that. Besides the fact that things are used in it to help it grow doesn’t mean jack. There is alot of things out there we eat that have the same thing done to them. Research it and you will find out its true. Fruits and vegetables get sprayed down with pesticides to keep bugs off of them, yet we still eat them don’t we? I agree with whoever posted this subject “It IS a gateway drug… But not why they think.” the truth does need to be told about weed, whoever has any other info that they would like to share with me or just wanna chat feel free to hit me up on AIM at snipingkirby

  313. Anonymous July 29, 2008 at 9:06 am #

    I’m so glad someone has done this study! All throughout high school the information saying that marijuana would lead to harder things, etc, just seemed unlikely to me that someone would smoke a joint and then suddenly wind up in a drug rehab center? This is why D.A.R.E. never really panned out (I’m sure you remember D.A.R.E.- that program that never worked but Zack Morris helped speak for?) D.A.R.E. didn’t pan out because people weren’t being told the truth. If you are honest with people, then the information you give will sink in much deeper.

  314. Anonymous December 28, 2008 at 4:57 pm #

    I know that people dont die from marijuana use but a lot of people that end up in a drug rehab say that it all started with smoking pot.

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  316. Anonymous July 14, 2008 at 2:43 pm #

    The first statement “Marijuana is not a “gateway” drug that predicts or eventually leads to substance abuse, suggests a 12-year University of Pittsburgh study.” is lunacy.

    There is multiple issues with just that one statement which make this article a laughing stock. I’m an addictions counsellor who has a very intense history with personal drug use. So I have first hand experience with hard drugs and years education to back me up.

    First, using marijuana for reasons other than those you would be prescribed, is substance abuse in itself. So obviously, the person writing the article is very uneducated or purposely misleading. Substance abuse is using an illegal drug or using a legal drug beyond the suggested consumption base. For many, that means drinking over 3 beer or 4 1/2 oz of hard liqour are suffering from problematic behavior.

    The reason I feel marijuana is a gateway drug, is because of the misinformation and propaghanda available and so highly distributed about it. If people are responsible and smoke reasonably, the harm done by pot is extremely low. The “negative” symptoms, you sleep well. That’s more of a blessing to most of us. Now back on track. With how evil and dangerous they make marijuana sound, you’d think it were life or death with each toke. When someone uses it and realizes that it’s all bull, they WILL become more willing to try other things which do cause potential harm. In order to prevent it from being a gateway, the governments have to start being honest and provide accurate information about these substances. By providing lies, they do nothing other than create a feeling of rebellion in youth who in turn, may say to themselves “Wow, pot’s not very bad for you. I’ve been lied to. I here heroins pretty good, and they say things about it just as they did marihjuana. I’m smart though. I know it’s a ploy. I’m going to try it”. I’ve seen this situation too often in my career.

    Fight the lies and speak the truth. Don’t cry wolf.

  317. Anonymous July 6, 2008 at 1:40 pm #

    hey there, me no english but me know this

    MARIII JEE WANNNA DIS FUN !
    and no harmfull, if vapirizor is used

    tank u

    I LUVE WEED

  318. Anonymous May 26, 2008 at 6:15 pm #
  319. Anonymous May 18, 2008 at 7:09 pm #

    I agree with you and I love my pot smoking wife deborak smith

  320. Anonymous May 18, 2008 at 7:03 pm #

    well there is no way that statement is true, there is however, a few who have died that I PERSONALLY KNOW ABOUT. The truth is, it’s a medicine that some people abuse. It’s called self medicating. Life is more managable high. I can’t smoke pot, becuse it makes me paranoid, but i remember a time when it was the best feeling ever, man….

  321. Anonymous September 4, 2009 at 7:26 am #

    One does NOT get addicted to marijuana, at least not to the point that you need rehab. We don’t NEED to smoke pot like a heroin addict NEEDS to get their fix. We just like to smoke because it makes just about everything better!

  322. Anonymous May 8, 2008 at 9:17 am #

    those studies are not completely credible i have studied psychology and there is no way to tell if it actually causes it the only thing they found hard evidence of is if someone has it and smoke marijuana they have a chance of developing it sooner but that was never completely proven schizophrenia is not even completely understood so trying to blame marijuana for it is asenine also as a side note 30 days of not using marijuana your memory returns and it is completely out of your body it has also been proven that caffeine is more addicting than marijuana while nicatine is more addicting than cocain so put that in ure ass and smoke it

  323. Anonymous May 8, 2008 at 9:14 am #

    this is one thing people dont understand marijuana does impair driving but is not nearly as impairing as drinking also there are ways to sober yourself up once you are high get fresh air eat something work out for a little bit and you are back to normal and whoever keeps bitching about how things are spelled go to fucking hell man thats not the point of these conversations…

  324. Anonymous May 8, 2008 at 9:11 am #

    it is more effective in treating aids victims who if it did cause lung cancer it wouldnt matter no other drugs will work for them they take them and throw them up and then they cant eat the pill form already being prescribed nationwide meridinol is used for many disease’s aqcuired later on in life gluecoma alzheimers etc. look at all the other prescription drug commercials read the health risks caused by them “nausea heart attack stroke etc” people who are pregnant should not take this medicine… marijuana doesnt even cause that many things. its one of the leading treatments for multiple sclorosis parkinsons disease and turettes because it is also a muscle relaxant the pill forms dont work for this either because it is hard to manage the dosage due to the wait in effectiveness to kill the whole joint thing there were studies done and marijuana does not cause lung cancer it was one done at the university of california with over 2000 people 50 years old who smoked pot when they were younger the reasons it does not cause lung cancer are still unkown some leading theories include you dont smoke 200 joints (10packs) a day its not necesarry as it is with nicotine there is also cancer fighting agents in THC and in the possibility of legalization the use of Vaporizer’s which almost completely demolishes the harmful things in the plant because it doesnt burn the plant it burns the chemical THC which would help people who have lung cancer Al Gore’s sisters did it when they got lung cancer. it is also humanly impossible to overdose on Cannabis the closest thing to overdose ever recorded by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT was in one case a large dose of hashhish was consumed this is the strongest concentrate of THC known and resulted in a stomach ach a person cannot hummanly smoke enough to kill themselves they fall asleep before that happens and wake up 100% fine and of all the years i have participated in use of the drug i have seen one anxiety attack and that was someone who has mental disorders. any questions or challenges email me please jaredlowry515@hotmail.com

  325. Anonymous May 8, 2008 at 8:59 am #

    i kept to pot and cigs for awhile just my thing never liked drinking to messy stupid and u dont remember anything i ate a plant datura moonflower and that has caused me to have a 12 hour scizophrenic episode thats a drug i continue to smoke pot because it keeps me from needing my sedatives for bipolar manic depression completely i understand it is mentally addicting but so is falling in love if consumed right and used for the right reasons it is fine you can use anything as a drug if you want to they easily legalize tobacco and alcohol which account for 700,000 deaths every year nationwide 242,000 accidents are caused from people driving under the influence of marijuana its simple legalize tax and make same laws as alcohol its less harmfull than almost all prescription drugs if anyone would like to challenge anything jaredlowry515@hotmail.com any questions will be answered

  326. Anonymous May 7, 2008 at 9:16 am #

    I love weed

  327. Anonymous May 4, 2008 at 4:59 am #

    the reason you dont find a problem with it is because there is nothing wrong with it. The goverment dosent wanna make weed legal. Think of all the DEA agent,pision guards, probation officers,and of corse gotta get that tax money. America has wasted billions of dollars in just a fews. they have doubled thier nationl debt in just a few years (manly since Bush got in there) i cant think of a single reason that the goverment shouldent make it legal. look at amsterdam i went there last fall and i was talkin to a police officer and told me they little or no violence over weed. the government make money the charge the coffie shops a tax. As well as the hookers. they have bodyguards in the room and they have to get tested once a week (well at least they are supposed to) in 2000 Texas whata shitty place to live.(a state that gives out less years for intoxicated vehicular manslaughter than if u get caught 5-50 pounds of pot) which is totaly harmless!! but like i was saying they said at alcohol was responcible for 120,000 deaths a year and that not includind 50% of all fatal car accidents and 65% of all murders! and can you guess how many marijuana had including intentional overdose and unitentional? ZERO not a single person has died as a direct effect of this little green plant.

  328. Anonymous May 3, 2008 at 6:23 am #

    to tha guy who begged “please no”… i luv tha way u put that. thank god somebody is finally bein fukin real. “..and you get addicted. and die. and it sucks.” lol!! i luv it!!

  329. Anonymous May 2, 2008 at 1:24 pm #

    OKAY, THE REASON WEED IS LACED IS BECAUSE THE DEALERS SOMETIMES NEEDA REUP ON THEIR SUPPLY OF GREEN SO THEY TRY TO EXPERIMENT AND SALVAGE WHATEVER THEY CAN TO GET MORE…IF WEED WAS LEGALIZED THEIR WOULDNT HAVE TO BE DEALERS PULLING STUNTS LIKE THAT…SO DNT HATE THE WEED CHANGE THE LAW

  330. Anonymous May 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm #

    ….i think your an idiot..in my opinion booze is the main drug that leads to other things…people get so drunk they dont know what the fuck they are doing…ive been smoking pot for awhile and ive never been that fucked up nor have i had the urge to try harder drugs…most people are fine with just smoking weed…douchebag.

  331. Anonymous May 8, 2008 at 8:47 am #

    man this states that marijuana is NOT a gateway drug anymore than tobacco or alcohol but yes i agree i smoke marijuana and choose not to drink because i like to have a fun time and wake up and be fine not hungover and wondering what the hell happened the night before

  332. Anonymous April 29, 2008 at 8:13 pm #

    you guys should all be ashamed on both sides.

    those of you on the super legalization liberal side, look at what marijuana really does…. not much, but still… don’t pretend that it doesn’t have any negative effects, i can promise you inhaling any type of smoke is not good for you. don’t trick yourself into thinking you’re becoming “closer to god”(thats what mushrooms are for.)don’t call marijuana medicine if the real reason you smoke it is to get stoned, you like to be stoned! so what?!

    those of you on the opposite side with the gateway drug viewpoint, wake the fuck up. alcohol? nicotine? ever hear of these drugs our society rams down our children’s throats every day? do you actually think more people try marijuana before they try alcohol or nicotine? do you think these may not be gateway drugs in and of themselves? don’t get into semantics with me on it either; they’re drugs plain and simple. you use alcohol and nicotine, it doesn’t kill you so, you’re more likely to use pot, you say “hey this stuff isn’t so bad, i’ll try pot” then you try pot and you say “oh this is even better than alcohol and nicotine! it doesn’t give you hangovers, make you throw up, give you headaches, make you crash cars, make you rape people, make you get into fights, or make you walk funny, or kill you, or taste like an ashtray”

    then you do harder drugs thinking maybe they wont be so bad either, but they are, and you get addicted. and die. and it sucks.

  333. Anonymous April 28, 2008 at 7:34 pm #

    some of you are right and some of you are wrong, first of all recent studies show there is NO connection between heavy marijuana use and CANCER!!!! Even though marijuana has 25 x more amonia, and 5 x more carbon dioxide and carcinogens, all which can cause cancer, there is no relation. Scientists say it may be because of the known chemical THC, research shows it has anti tumoristic properties and kills ageing cells around it before they can become cancerous, and may make a protective barrier, and this is a known fact because i have been reading alot up on marijuana the past year from studies from universities so i dont wanna hear this my own opinion bullshit. The government has been lying to us from day one, there is no reason why it should be illegal. So fuck the US because i know more about whats going on than they think

  334. Anonymous April 28, 2008 at 7:18 pm #

    I am a child that uses pot I guess you could say. I find no problem with it at all. It can be a gateway drug, because I myself after trying weed have wanted to try somthing better or higher. But I will not die from using it, I’m not addicted.

  335. Anonymous April 28, 2008 at 9:13 am #

    In my opinion marijuana is and will always be the first drug attempted and is the drug that leads to heavier addicting drugs! Many say that it is a natural drug BUT how natural can this be if it is still a drug! many start with marijuana and lead to more addictive drugs and then wind requiringdrug treatment.

    It is soo sad to see how many children are smoking it and how young they are!

    Lora

  336. Renaisauce April 27, 2008 at 11:17 am #

    Nice try with writing the word “Period”- that almost worked in giving you the last word.

    There’s no way someone should be allowed to post something like “THC is mostly hydrogen, carbon and oxygen, and therefore it’s harmless” and get away with it on a Science-focused site. Do you know what else is made of those molecules? Hemlock. (Also mentioned in the Bible, by the way). Also, carbon monoxide. You want to smoke that stuff? It’s totally natural!

    Now, no one is saying that it’s as dangerous a substance as the stuff in cigarettes, but it certainly isn’t healthy or good. Do you know what it actually does to cells? Look it up. And even then, there are cases (not a few) in which marijuana use was involved in some kind of accident. Do you know how many people who are stoned are more likely to do something stupid? That’s right– all of the ones that can move.

  337. Anonymous April 27, 2008 at 8:51 am #

    PERIOD
    it does no harm unless your allergic to it
    anything is bad for you if you over do it
    even water so unless you overdose yourself with thc (C21H30O20)BASICALLY OXYGEN CARBON AND HYDROGEN
    nothing will happen people used it for centuries to cure diseases its even refered to in the bible
    just do you research before you yourself are “influenced” by these anti-marijuana claims.

  338. Anonymous April 27, 2008 at 7:41 am #

    zero people die a year due to marjauna use

  339. Renaisauce April 23, 2008 at 11:18 am #

    If there’s a legitimate pharmaceutical chemical or two (out of what, 3000?) in marijuana that is unrelated to getting people stoned, then I’m sure that they would jump on (and one would think that they would have looked). Also, I’m confident that drug lords would still do pretty good business.

    Can anyone explain to me why it would be good to have joints around under any circumstances, or can I just put it under the category of “moronic things that people do in spite of warnings” along with cigarettes. Even if they could, is there any reason why anyone should?

  340. Anonymous April 23, 2008 at 11:05 am #

    I will not comment upon marijauna being a gateway or not, nor am I going to comment upon how it can hurt. Instead, I want to talk about the legalization of Marijuana and how it would work out. If and when it is legalized the Government would immidatly put research into it along with corperate pharmacuticals to comment with how they would market it, control it and make it. I doubt they would be selling doobies and more likly find a way to put it in pill form. Then they would put laws down as to age limits and tax laws to make money off of it. This is comment pointed towards the medical use of the drug, not the recreational. Kids would stop buying from dealers who cut their weed with differant chemicals and start stealing Grandma’s painkillers instead. This is not exactly a great change but at least the drug lords would no longer be getting American Kid’s money.

  341. Anonymous April 12, 2008 at 10:08 pm #

    One should always run a spell check prior to posting a comment intended to point out other people’s spelling errors :)

  342. Anonymous April 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm #

    marijuana should be legalized. so many people die. on the other hand, it is your choice whether you decide to leep on using it or you can just stop.

  343. Anonymous April 11, 2008 at 1:58 pm #

    GRINGO FLEETO

  344. Anonymous April 11, 2008 at 7:09 am #

    ok maybe if you could learn how 2 spell and make actual sentances people might, just might listen to you. But until then shut up!

  345. Anonymous April 11, 2008 at 7:04 am #

    why do people smoke pot anyway i tryed it 1nce i dint do it again im not adickted so what the hell why such a big fus i think it shoukld be leaglised and regulated so it dont get laced and become harmfull
    tobaco is more harmful to your body that marijuana
    whats up with thst tobaco is legal y shouldent marijuana be legal

  346. Anonymous April 10, 2008 at 10:21 pm #

    first of all, you dont take pot, you smoke it. Second, I watched a video of a guy driving sober on a road course, and then he smoked pot and did the same thing and pot did not effect his drving at all.

  347. Anonymous April 9, 2008 at 10:33 pm #

    I smoke weed to get closer to my spiritual side. I try and understand myself and my life, and get a closer connection with god spiritually. This has changed me as a person, and my life. Im happier now, and seem to have a better and bigger scope of things. If used sparingly, i view weed as a gift. But just like everything else, too much of anything isnt good for you.

  348. Anonymous April 7, 2008 at 5:55 am #

    Well, it could be less harmful than we thought but I still have a question: how many of you would let your children to smoke it? I still see it as an innocent start for heavy drugs. Many drug rehab former attendants have declared they started with grass.

  349. Renaisauce March 31, 2008 at 11:40 am #

    I can’t believe this thread has been going on for two years without anyone citing any actual science. Regardless of whether or not pot makes you dumber, reading about people who pretend to quote science to justify their habit might have that effect on readers. Just scanning the thread made me strangely bleary-eyed, and weirdly hungry. Maybe THC stands for “thick hash commentary”.

    At the risk of continuing a discussion that should probably end quickly, I think a few points need to be addressed.

    1) No, you can’t function normally under the influence of pot. If you could, no one would know that you’re high. They know. By the way, I hope you aren’t driving with that stuff in your system.

    2) Yes, the main ingredient of marijuana does at least effect brain cells. The main ingredient, THC, interacts with cannabanoid receptors in multiple cell types (especially CNS neurons), so-named because they were discovered by studying the obvious effects of marijuana. Guess what? Artificial chemical stimulation of neurons is going to have some kind of effect on you, especially if you’re messing with the dopamine system (which pot does, eventually). If THC didn’t cause some kind of chemical imbalance in the brain, it wouldn’t make you high.

    And it isn’t hard to find research that strongly suggests that it has long term toxic and psychotic effects. I did a 5 second pubmed search just now and found tons of stuff from the last 2 years. One is coming out tomorrow, actually, in the Journal of Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology (It’s been e-published since November). F Monet-Tschudi et al. Look it up, as a start.

    Now, there is a lot of very specific research about the effects on at least 2 different receptors in different model systems, and if someone wants to discuss that research, that would be awesome. But you people who have heard information from somebody else that “science” says pot is OK– especially if you heard it from somebody that was high at the time– need to be able to back yourself up with real neuroscience. Sociology stuff like the article that started this thread is OK, but its much more subjective and hard to interpret (and the one above is hardly impressive).

    3. It doesn’t matter if pot is decriminalized or not. AS an official Renaisauce public service announcement, you’re being an idiot if you’re taking this stuff. You can’t screw with your neurotransmitter concentration on a regular basis and expect everything to be OK (ignoring, for a moment, the effect that pot has on the entire body). I don’t think most people who use pot care what science says, for the same reason that nicotine smokers don’t care what the surgeon general says. There’s a whole different set of problems that need to be addressed, but they have nothing to do with science.

  350. Anonymous March 31, 2008 at 9:52 am #

    I don’t want it legalized because then it’ll be sold by the government, overpriced and taxed to the max you know?
    Decriminalization of marijuana would be nice though, grow your own and smoke it if you like.
    All the decent studies have shown no longterm damage from marijuana except for making users more likely to develop mental disorders (such as schizophrenia).
    I don’t see it as a problem though.

  351. Anonymous March 31, 2008 at 9:50 am #

    i love u

  352. Anonymous March 31, 2008 at 4:58 am #

    don’t legalize marijuana, then we’ll all have to go to some stupid coffee shop with silly psychedelic mushrooms and giant bob marleys painted on the wall just to get high with a bunch of 18 year olds and people who’ve decided to give it a try now that its legal(if you’re too scared try marijuana because the government says you can’t, then my feeling is you’re not mature enough to indulge when they say you can.)

    personally i would also rather that everyone wasn’t stoned all the time. marijuana is so harmless, that you can function “nearly normally” in public no matter how much you smoke. i see this as a problem because you’re either (depending on the strain, your mood, energy level, time of day, etc.) going to “tweek” out and talk happy nonsense to someone for 20 minutes and crash, or just sit staring at a screen and have verbal constipation while you stumble over that important thing you’re trying to spit out. not my idea of advancing society, or getting us out of any sort of debt (no matter how much the tax).

    not to mention the idea of marijuana being suddenly capitalized on is bothersome to me.

    i don’t think our government is humble enough to back down yet anyway. it will take a few years after they stop running anti-drug commercials before people forget they were being lied to for a century.

    maybe legalized home growing for personal use? then people actually have to put forth a little effort, instead of heading down to the store to pick up a pack of “Camel Lefts” or “Marlboro Blazes” (with cool green filter tip 420 fresh air intake technology!) before they get back on the highway.

    we should all just fuck off shouldn’t we?

  353. Anonymous March 29, 2008 at 2:14 pm #

    So you’re saying that you lost a loved one due to using pot. I am sorry for your loss. But, that does not justify in any way to keep marijuana illegal. It actually helps the argument of legalizing it.

    You loved one could have had his own plants legally growing and had enough quality weed to last for a year’s time.

    Unfortunately it is still illegal and it is on the black market where some scumbags supposedly added something to it resulting in your tragic loss.

  354. ssss March 31, 2008 at 12:46 pm #

    Put it this way your social circle is a gateway drug but doing marijuana I do not belive since you make the decisions if doing harder drugs is your thing.

    There are many strains of marijuana, such as mauwie wauwie that have their characteristics highs or buzzes.

    Now this cannot lead to harder drugs at all since it is your choice as marijuana does not make the human addtced to the substance or give the urge to seek a bigger buzz unlike Cocain or Heroin.

  355. Anonymous March 25, 2008 at 1:35 am #

    Actually marijuana kills less brain cells than alcohol, and there have been no deaths resulting solely from marijuana use. I also believe memory loss is a naturally occurring process as people become older i.e. Alzheimer’s Diesease.

  356. Anonymous March 3, 2009 at 6:57 am #

    May 3, 2004

    Dutch drug policies do not increase marijuana use, first rigorous comparative study finds

    By Jennifer McNulty

    In the first rigorous study comparing marijuana use in the Netherlands and the United States, researchers have found no evidence that decriminalization of marijuana leads to increased drug use. The results suggest that drug policies may have less impact on marijuana use than is currently thought.

    In Amsterdam, coffeeshops can be licensed to sell hashish and marijuana in small quantities for personal consumption by adults. Photo by Janice Tetlow

    The findings appear in the May issue of the American Journal of Public Health. Craig Reinarman, professor of sociology at UCSC, coauthored the article, “The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy: Cannabis in Amsterdam and in San Francisco,” with Peter D. A. Cohen, director of the Centre for Drug Research (CEDRO) at the University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands, and Hendrien L. Kaal, now an instructor at the University of Leiden in the Netherlands.

    The study compared the cannabis (marijuana and hashish) habits of users in Amsterdam and San Francisco to test the premise that punishment for cannabis use deters use and thereby benefits public health.

    “We compared representative samples of experienced marijuana users to see whether the lawful availability of marijuana did, in fact, lead to the problems critics of the Dutch system have claimed,” said Reinarman. “We found no evidence that it does. In fact, we found consistently strong similarities in patterns of marijuana use, despite vastly different national drug policies.”

    Highlights of the study include:

    • The mean age at onset of use was 16.95 years in Amsterdam and 16.43 years in San Francisco.

    • The mean age at which respondents began using marijuana more than once per month was 19.11 years in Amsterdam and 18.81 years in San Francisco.

    • In both cities, users began their periods of maximum use about two years after they began regular use: 21.46 years in Amsterdam and 21.98 years in San Francisco.

    • About 75 percent in both cities had used cannabis less than once per week or not at all in the year before the interview.

    • Majorities of experienced users in both cities never used marijuana daily or in large amounts even during their periods of peak use, and use declined after those peak periods.

    The Netherlands effectively decriminalized marijuana use in 1976, and it is available for purchase in small quantities by adults in licensed coffee shops; in the United States, marijuana use carries stiff criminal penalties, and more than 720,000 people were arrested for marijuana offenses in 2001.

    The study was funded by the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and the Dutch Ministry of Health.

    In identical questionnaires administered in Amsterdam and San Francisco (cities chosen for their similarities as politically liberal northern port cities with universities and populations of roughly 700,000 people), nearly 500 respondents who had used marijuana at least 25 times were asked detailed questions about their marijuana use. The questionnaire explored such issues as age at first use, regular and maximum use, frequency and quantity of use over time, intensity and duration of intoxication, career use patterns, and use of other illicit drugs.

    “In the United States, marijuana policy is based on the assertion that strict penalties are the best way to inhibit use,” said Reinarman.

    The study’s findings cast doubt on that scenario, he said. Despite widespread lawful availability of cannabis in Amsterdam, there were no differences between the two cities in age at onset of use, age at first regular use, or age at the start of maximum use.

    The study found no evidence that lawfully regulated cannabis provides a “gateway” to other illicit drug use. In fact, marijuana users in San Francisco were far more likely to have used other illicit drugs–cocaine, crack, amphetamines, ecstasy, and opiates–than users in Amsterdam, said Reinarman.

    “The results of this study shift the burden of proof now to those who would arrest hundreds of thousands of Americans each year on the grounds that it deters use,” said Reinarman.

  357. Anonymous February 23, 2008 at 10:24 am #

    Where is this guy geting his info? Have you even smoked before? There is no way to die from marijuana. If the weed is laced the smoker probably knows about it because a dealer wouldnt waste money like that. Telling me that im, withoutadoubt, going to be a deadbeat is ignorant of you. I have been smoking off and on for a few years. I’ll go months without and im just fine.im not doing heroin, crack,or anything. i dont even drink. im not hurting myself or anyone else. even if there is a little damage from the smoke that is my choice to make, the pros outweigh the cons. So take a couple of hits and relax.

  358. Anonymous February 20, 2008 at 4:47 pm #

    I don’t understand why they allow people over a certain age to smoke cigarettes when its proven that tobacco can kill you within a short amount of years. While marijuana is illegal but cannot harm you. The only harm that is caused by marijuana is getting caught by the authority because they will put you in jail and on their records. I don’t believe how many prisoners are actually in jail because of possession of marijuana. The government needs to quit trying to give out the message that marijuana will ruin any chances of success and focus on how many people are dying because of overdose of over-the-counter and prescribed(half the time not even prescribed to them) pills, cocaine, heroin, and other MAN-MADE products. Think about it people and don’t judge until you try…maybe then you can get your head out of your …. ass.

  359. Anonymous February 9, 2008 at 10:31 am #

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  360. skyneur May 27, 2010 at 9:36 am #

    How come this study only focused on marijuana, alcohol and weed? How many of those who participated ended up using harder drugs? How can they determine which is a gateway drug without that additional info?
    Regards,
    Manu | Giochi di auto

  361. Sam Basinger January 19, 2008 at 12:49 pm #

    if marijuana were legal and sold in stores, not only could the government tax them nd make a steady profit, but the farmers would actually have a quick growing resource that grows year round and is useful in hundreds of ways. and also, it wouldnt be laced if it was legal unless the government was lacing it with something. idiot.

  362. Anonymous May 19, 2010 at 1:32 pm #

    first off, marijuana alone, unlike all the other synthetic drugs out there today, hasn’t killed a single person. Marijuana does not cause anger issues to arise or any sort of violence, even if the user has a history of violence. the government noted that marijuana actually makes people calm, and pessimistic. In 2001, a report by David Boyum and Mark Kleiman entitled “Substance Abuse Policy from a Crime-Control Perspective” found the “high” from cannabis is unlikely to trigger violence and concluded: “Making marijuana legally available to adults on more or less the same terms as alcohol would tend to reduce crime, certainly by greatly shrinking the illicit market and possibly by reducing alcohol consumption via substitution if smoking marijuana acts, on balance, as a substitute for drinking alcohol rather than a complement to it since drinking seems to have a greater tendency to unleash aggression than does cannabis use.” another point to consider would be that In 1999, a study by the Division of Neuroscience and Behavioral Health at the Institute of Medicine entitled “Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base,” found no evidence of a link between cannabis use and the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs on the basis of its particular physiological effect. so please, get your facts right before you start commenting on serious issues.

  363. Anonymous December 12, 2007 at 8:00 am #

    i agree

  364. Anonymous May 4, 2010 at 8:58 pm #

    I smoke cannabis on a regular basis, but I must say, It’s a blessing. I don’t abuse it, I don’t smoke 24/7, I only smoke right before I go to bed so I can sleep. It works wonders. I used to be an alcoholic, and definitely, easily, cannabis is so much better for you.

    All of you anti-pot individuals seem to believe that once you smoke pot, you are a disappointment to society. You must look at it this way. We smoke weed. Yes. But we still retain the same cognizance, even after years of smoking. And don’t give me that “Burn Out living down your street” story. Cannabis actually helps brain functions. Studies have proven it. Hard drugs… I can’t say for those though. I’ve seen individuals completely stupefied in their later years due to alcohol use in excess.

    Please stop the idiocy.

  365. Anonymous November 5, 2007 at 2:50 pm #

    Although your assertion may be correct, it’s off topic. We are talking about marijuana not laced marijuana. If you get laced marijuana then you’re utterly stupid for one, trusting people that much, and secondly for not having enough respect for yourself to check everything…EVERYTHING before you partake in it. I mean would you just accept a sandwich off the street from a random person, even if the person was a cop-someone supposedly high respected, or a billionaire- yeah he won’t hurt you. What you probably need to take in consideration is self-awareness. Most people like to hang around people they know, not people they don’t. But don’t get me wrong people engage in frivolous acts all the time. That’s a risk they are willing to take.

  366. Anonymous April 23, 2010 at 8:11 pm #

    In my experience MJ was a gateway drug because it is lumped in with all of the other illegal substances. I smoked pot and thought “what the hell is all the fuss about”. I figured if the government was that stupid about pot, how much did they know about other substances. So I did other drugs that probably are dangerous in one way or another. If pot was legal and the truly dangerous substances were illegal then I would have been a lot more hesitant to try other things. But, it turns out that a lot of other illegal substances don’t seem that bad to me either. The government would do a great service if they only illegalized things that are absolutely dangerous – if there are such things – I personally “think” crystal meth is real scary – I’ve never used it but there is plenty of first hand testimony out there documenting how devestating and addictive it is. I don’t care if it becomes legal – I am not going to mess with it. But Pot, c’mon – if I want to light up with some friends on a Friday or Saturday night and laugh or asses off – who has the right to tell us that we can’t do it? It’s a lot less dangerous than alcohol. Forgive me for wanting that little bit of freedom. Legalize pot and tax it just like alcohol and cigarettes – stop waging a stupid ass war against it that can’t be won and is a huge drain on money and law enforcement resources. I get so pissed when I see a cop on TV gloating about getting another ounce of pot off of the streets – how brain washed is that cop if he thinks he’s making a difference?

  367. Anonymous October 31, 2007 at 7:33 pm #

    weed is not a drug a drug is whin u have to add something to it to make it and thin once u start to smoke or eject your self with it thin things will start to happend to u like a werds body oder or even makes u want it so bad that your willing to kill some one over it so dont sit there and try to make people sound guilty about smoking weed it there lives and wat give u the fucking right to make comments about thim it./ becouse who know wat type of sick things u do to relax your self so stay the fuck out of other people lives and and start living your own

    now that real talk for your ass

  368. Anonymous April 23, 2010 at 11:02 am #

    Heroin should not be legalized at all.

    Heroin and opiods in general increase a persons pain thresholds. It may sound pretty hard to believe, but we do work much like video games depict humams as working – and that is with different guages and tolerances.

    People have emotional, physical, pain, love, anger, attachment, crazy, and a whole lot more thresholds that are sort of like meters in a video game (think street fighter or better yet GTA San Andreas).

    What opium does is increase your pain threshold for a certain amount of time. Once it goes, you feel the pain again. That’s why a nurse will say to you ‘don’t chase the pain’ and rather ask for more morphene when the previous finishes instead.

    But it seems to go a bit further. It decreases your current threshold. So once you’re off the stuff, the pain that was otherwise normal seems unbearable.

    before (normal):

    |++++++++++++++++++————|

    with opium (7 over max):

    |++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|+++++++

    after opium (7 under normal – now permanent):

    |+++++++++++——————-|

    Weed, on the other hand, works on our maturity level. It’s a crazy ‘trip’ because we feel so much more aware. As one becomes more spiritually concious, the same is true. When we meditate, it causes us to go to a similar level as marijuana does. That’s why reading some scriptures when high can give you a sense of what is expected in the scirptures, and then you can acieve the same high weeks after without even using any weed (e.g. sikh scriptures).

    Alcohol though is a downer, and for good reason. It makes you feel like a kid again – decreases your maturity level. Tobacco has a similar effect.

    Notice how the legal vices are ones taht decrease your tolerances, rather than increasing them??

    What government, afterall, would want a bunch of free-thinking independant thinkers when they can instead have a bunch of sheep that do whatever they want them to???

  369. Anonymous October 31, 2007 at 12:02 pm #

    I dont think that there is necesarrily any reason not to partake in the use of marijuana, though I myself do not.. The main thing to remember is that this issue should be looked at from a truly understanding vantage point. Marijuana in and of itself is not the cause of the problem. It is however the means used by the creators of the problems, the users themselves, to create problems. I have been straight edge for about 5 years now and have stayed completely clean from any kind of mind-altering substance: drugs of any kind, or alcohol. This is because of a personal choice to try to stay as physically and mentally healthy and independant as possible, and to stay out of any kind of legal trouble. Marijuana as of now is illegal, and thats another issue that will render the need for a decision on your part.. Is it worth the risk from a legal standpoint? As far as the whole deadbeat thing, I have friends who use regularly and are in much better physical shape than myself and are certainly much more intelligent than myself as well, and have also managed to stay out of legal trouble by being responsible about it. The risk level of marijuana use and the problems it can causes depend more on the users themselves- thier personalities, their maturity level, and their discipline level. As stated above, it has been proven that marijuana is not physically addictive. However, study and research have also proven that marijuana is psychologically addictive.. Meaning that those who regularly use the substance have a hard time stopping, not because of a physical craving (necisarrily), but because of a mental need of sorts. So really what it comes down to is this.
    Can you handle it? Are you informed and knowledgeable on the subject? Make your choice. I personally acquire ample joy and happiness from other activities in my life such as spending time with loved ones, playing music, etc. If you feel a void in your life, filling it with any kind of substance use is probably not a good idea. Those are generally the situations that breed addiction, dependence, gateways to heavier drugs, etc. It all depends on you- Make an educated and well-thought out choice.
    Thanks!
    Caleb

  370. Anonymous April 20, 2010 at 7:57 am #

    You’re not very bright, are you?

    Actually, most people would say that a free society means allowing people to do whatever the heck they like so long as it doesn’t hurt someone else. So why not allow the free sale of high strength pain killers? And incidentally, if dangerous things should be banned as a matter of course, then guns are obviously at the top of the list.

    But back to the topic. “Hard” drugs (and I’m referring specifically to heroin here) do not destroy the body and lead to crime. Let me repeat that: hard drugs do not destroy the body and lead to crime. Clearly you’ll need that explaining.

    OK, first up, heroin is a pretty harmless drug. When I say “pretty harmless” I mean it is less harmful than tobacco, aspirin, alcohol, paracetemol, caffeine and orange soda. I know you won’t believe that so I would say look at the scientific research. You will find little research suggesting that heroin harms the body. You can find plenty that comfirms it is essentially harmless. The harm that we see from “heroin” is due to all the crap that is added to it due to its illegaility. You still won’t believe it, so let me try this. Why do you think opium (essentially heroin) was such a hit in society for centuries? Did people drop dead by the thousand? No they didn’t. And why is morphine (again, essentially heroin) one of the most widely used painkillers? Because it works and is basically harmless.

    Secondly, the criminality associated with heroin is almost exclusively down to its illegal status. Legalise heroin, tax it and regulate its production and hey presto! Suddenly crime virtually disappears off our streets.

    So if we want to improve the health of the nation and save billions upon billions of dollars…. legalise, regulate and tax heroin. Brilliant!

  371. Anonymous October 20, 2007 at 12:44 am #

    It’s still illegal because people like you literally try to scare other people with baseless facts from ever using or trying Marijuana.

    If you’d open your mind, and did some ACTUAL research, you’d find that a lot of credible institutes have concluded Marijuana to be quite harmless. It doesn’t even cause lung cancer, or brain cell degeneration.

    You simply cannot die from a direct result of Marijuana. You would literally need to consume 2x your bodyweight of it to theoretically induce death… But then, just the act of consuming twice your weight of ANYTHING would probably kill you.

    Also, if Marijuana makes you a dead beat who lives on the street… Why aren’t our city streets absolutely littered in stoners?

    As for being dependent on it… Well, we all become dependent on something. Some people depend on their favorite show at the end of the day, some turn to a glass of wine after a hard day’s work, or an ice cold beer, and some depend on a harmless joint to relax them.

  372. Anonymous April 18, 2010 at 4:36 am #

    “Posted by Anonymous on Nov 19th, 2009 at 6:08 am.” said:

    Now, if marijuana had been legal, and you were instead buying from say, a typical store of sorts, this situation would never have arisen. With legalization, the amount of exposure the harder drugs receive is diminished. So, legalize marijuana!

    —————————-

    couldn’t agree more.
    also: i am pretty sure that 100% of all heroin/crack/meds users have been using caffeine before they tried their heroin/…
    does that make coffee a gateway drug now? after all, caffeine is WAY more dangerous then thc. or what about nicotine…

  373. Anonymous October 14, 2007 at 4:55 pm #

    Alright everybody here is talking about making marijuana legal but nobody talks about when a joint gets laced with something. Then that leads to harder drugs. Don’t say it can’t happen to you because you are wrong. It can happen to anybody. It kills the braincells. As you get older you start forgetting things and not remembering one thing from the next. It causes a person to become slow. You can say you are still active and anything you want, but when you grow up watch where it leads . You are going to be a dead beat living off of someone else because you are going to be to afraid to do anything alone. You become dependant on it. Say what you will but it will kill you. I had a love one die from it, what you don’t realize is that you are not just hurting yourself but you are hurting the people that love you and care about what happens to you. SDo no matter what statistics or psychologists say it is a drug and there is a reason it isn’t legal. Stop thinking about yourself and stop being selfish. Start thinking about the people that love you and need you in their life. All because you are the one that makes them happy.

  374. Anonymous April 17, 2010 at 7:00 am #

    It’s been shown to cause an increase in neuron (brain cell) generation in the hippocampus (section of the brain).

    You have some nice breasts in your pic, though.

  375. Anonymous October 2, 2007 at 7:56 am #

    I’m a long-time supporter of the legalization of marijuana. An official NORML member.

    However, the conclusions drawn from the research in this article are dubious. This study shows that there is no particular order for the usage of tobacco, alcohol, and marijuana. It shows that environmental factors are the best predictor of drug usage for the use of these particular drugs, rather than the order that a drug was used.

    There is nothing about the usage of marijuana being linked, or not linked, to the usage of other more serious illegal drugs. (In fact, those who use marijuana are more likely to use harder drugs than those who have never smoked marijuana. Thats because people tend to use the milder substances first — like tobacco and alcohol in this study — and then move onto the harder substances. Fact is though that marijuana is just a stepping stone for these users who may fully intend, conscious or not, to end up using cocaine or heroin or whatever. Marijuana gets a bad rep like that.)

    The use of research is important in the effort to re-legalize marijuana, but we must use it in an appropriate scientific context. If we misuse research, then we look like a sham effort of stoners incapable of complex thought. The research is overwhelmingly on our side already. All we need to do is effectively and accurately communicate it to the public in a convincing manner.

  376. Anonymous April 16, 2010 at 9:08 am #

    Ya, why don’t we just make high strength prescription pain killers available over the counter too? I mean, being a “Land of the Free” means letting people do whatever the hell they want, doesn’t it? Get a grip, man. There is no such thing as a completely free society. If there was, it would be anarchic. Hard drugs destroy the body and lead to crime. Making them freely accessible would only crowd the jails more. Life isn’t about doing whatever we want; it’s about allowing and sacrificing certain liberties so that we may live in a fully functioning society with each other. Read some philosophy or just sit down and use some common sense. There are rules in society for a reason.

  377. Anonymous September 24, 2007 at 7:26 am #

    What would you even expect ? it might be true but some people want to promote lies i guess. But the drug problem is real, no wonder so many people end up in facilities like california drug northern rehab.

  378. Anonymous April 16, 2010 at 12:07 pm #

    Oh no you haven’t…not once…

  379. Anonymous March 26, 2007 at 5:09 pm #

    Scientists continue to press the well informed case for a restructuring of drug classifications

  380. Anonymous April 16, 2010 at 12:51 pm #

    I havent smoked in 6 months, and I was truly successful. I did not crave it, it was never a problem and I had been smoking weed everyday for a few years before hand. Marijuana is not addictive.

  381. Anonymous February 28, 2007 at 6:57 pm #

    Helps others feel better when stressed or upset, makes the aching pain go away where ever it hurts… what’s so bad about chronic? To be honest I’m on it. I’m not brain dead, I don’t feel lazy I’m active. If you feeling sad. Hey!!! I have something for you to make you glad. If you can’t sleep why count sheep then just blaze a joint sooner or later you’ll be in a deep sleep. PEACE!!

  382. Anonymous April 15, 2010 at 11:09 pm #

    So sad that you believe this to be true, that’s a false fact. Marijuana is not a drug that causes direct or in-direct destruction of the brain.

    Alcohol however is a drug that does. That’s a fact unfortunately.

  383. Anonymous March 26, 2010 at 8:33 pm #

    Uncertain future.Tax and information might help …

  384. Anonymous March 25, 2010 at 7:34 pm #

    WOW! hahaha calm down

  385. Anonymous March 20, 2010 at 8:43 pm #

    LAND OF THE FREE….. MEXICO!

    The US should give up, I am ashamed that I live in a country that can’t do anything right. Drugs were legal years back, ever heard of COCAINE TOOTHACHE medication? What about Cocaine-Cola?The original formula included cocaine. SEARS was selling Heroin! But only our grandparents could buy it before it became illegal. It has been said that coffee would be illegal if we had known more about it in the past, why not make it illegal now? What kind of county would this be then? How about announcing that cigarettes will be illegal in 2011? Do you realize what kind of opposition there would be? Here it is… it comes down to the FDA regulating all drugs, the government taxing all now illegal drugs, the trillion dollar deficit would be gone in just a few years. I HOPE THAT BEFORE I DIE THE US WILL TRULY BE THE LAND OF THE FREE, THERE’S NO MORE ROOM IN OUR JAILS, WE SPEND MILLIONS ENFORCING THE STUPID LAWS, ONLY TO DESTROY WHAT THE DEA SEIZES, WHY NOT BURN THE MONEY SEIZED ALSO? WHAT A WASTE. I WANT TO DEFECT TO MEXICO, CLAIM POLITICAL ASYLUM! I RENOUNCE MY CITIZENSHIP!

  386. Anonymous March 14, 2010 at 10:45 am #

    Ive quit smoking many times. i have smoked everyday for more then a year and stopped. i have never had a craving for weed that is anything like my cravings for cigarettes.

  387. Anonymous March 14, 2010 at 10:45 am #

    Ive quit smoking many times. i have smoked everyday for more then a year and stopped. i have never had a craving for weed that is anything like my cravings for cigarettes.

  388. sumimasen March 9, 2010 at 12:02 pm #

    I do not push my personal beliefs onto anyone, because they are my own. I also do not appreciate anyone pushing they’re beliefs on me

  389. Anonymous March 4, 2010 at 9:47 pm #

    find one tiny spec of addictive substance found in marijuana. It simply cannot be done because it does not exist. you should really use your own brain and do your own research and learn the facts to come to your own conclusion instead of using someone else’s closed minded,completely false statements to fuel your own poor ignorant excuse for an argument.

    and by the way i have stopped multiple times, cold turkey, for more than three months and have never suffered any form of withdrawal.

  390. Anonymous March 5, 2010 at 10:30 am #

    schizophrenia is a genetic disorder i know my grampa had it and i know about it your full of it. pot can’t make you schizo

  391. Anonymous March 3, 2010 at 7:54 pm #

    I can do that, easily. It’s already been 2 months, and I’m not even planning on quitting, I just haven’t smoked it in 2 months. And believe me if I wanted to I could never smoke it ever again without putting for any real effort or restraint. It isn’t addictive.

  392. Anonymous March 3, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

    I often go several months (4 to 6) at a time without smoking marijuana, I only use it when my Rheumatoid and Psoriatic arthritis, Marfanoid complex, spinal damage, and seisures begin to cause me so much pain that I simply cannot handle it anymore. I have, over time, become resistant to the effects of “approved” painkillers such as Vicodin, Demorol, Percocet, Morphine, and all OTC’s like Tylenol, Advil, or Aleve. It is people like you that make living day to day almost unbearable for people like me. Most days I can’t even play with my children because of the almost constant pain I am in, which is VERY depressing. Try to understand BOTH sides of the issue before making unfounded judgements. If you want to get a better idea of how life is when legal drugs are less than no use, go to any place where they treat incurable degenerative physical conditions like Marfans syndrome, Marfanoid complex, or Cancer!

  393. Anonymous March 2, 2010 at 8:12 pm #

    It’s actually better for you thank alcohol, mack.

  394. Anonymous March 1, 2010 at 8:20 am #

    Marijuana is NOT Addictive, it is only psychologically addictive in that most people do not feel a desire to smoke marijuana everyday, but there are a few people that have a very addictive personality and so they are more inclined to feel like they are in fact addicted.

  395. Anonymous February 24, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    Marijana IS addictive. your obviously in denial. try to stop smoking pot for… 3 months. if your TRULY successful, ill believe you.

  396. Anonymous February 24, 2010 at 8:08 am #

    is NOT addictive i dont care what anybody says. theres no way that it can be addictive. you dont NEEED to smoke. you dont go thru withdrawls from smoking. i smoke. and when im not smoking i want to, but i dont NEED to. so enough of this shit about marijuana being addictive and its NOT a drug. its an herb. get that shit straight. :)

  397. mpod February 22, 2010 at 12:13 pm #

    I agree that there is no difference, if kids get inot that drug environment they will smoke pot regardless of what they have tried before.

    And yes, marijuana IS a drug that destroys mental health and damages brain.

  398. Anonymous February 17, 2010 at 5:45 pm #

    right on

  399. Butters February 11, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    Marijuana is considered as a gateway drug after all.

    Thx for sharing this info!

    Drug Addiction Treatment Center
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  400. Anonymous February 11, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    Marijuana is illegal substance just like heroin. I don’t see any difference, it’s either first step on the way to “heavy” drugs abuse either people stay addicted only to it. The worst of all is that it’s a trigger for schizophrenia or paranoia or some othe mental deceases.

  401. Anonymous January 14, 2010 at 6:11 am #

    Medical Marijuana, Inc’s Educational Expo has a buy one ticket get one free to their Medical Marijuana Business Expo. They are going to teach you how to get in the Medical Marijuana business, how to grow medical marijuana and more: hxxp://medicalmarijuanaeducationalexpo.com.

    Spread the word far and wide.

  402. Anonymous January 4, 2010 at 2:57 am #

    if you are going to do drugs, you are inherently predisposed to doing them. if you have the want in you to do them you will, regarless of what you start with.
    cus i got married to marijuana and my connect was my best man

  403. Anonymous January 2, 2010 at 9:06 pm #

    The very first thing you’ll see when after entering Oaksterdam U. is pictures of Families . So you say…………so what……… except the pictures are there for a purpose . These pictures show the Father’s that were once part of the family unit now seperated because of
    ” marijuana crimes “. Below the photos tell a story of why each one was incarcerated , their sentence & in detail tells how several of these men either have killed themselves or have been killed while in prison .
    Their is now no Father .The family has been broken apart .
    How can the Mother work when she takes care of her Children ?
    Furthermore the Children are now worse off than ever before . For what purpose does incarceration serve for what otherwise is a victimless crime ? Cannabis helps rather than it hurts . Yet some of you will say ,
    ” well this man committed a crime & as a result of breaking the law he must pay for his crime ” …………
    and some of you will say ” what about the man who committed murder then he too needs to be free ” . Murder is a crime and he must be prosecuted for his crime but , possessing a plant called Cannabis is not a crime .

    This man did not commit a crime .
    Rather the crime was committed against the man .

  404. Anonymous December 14, 2009 at 9:28 am #

    know the truth or jsut remain ignorant. hemp for victory!

  405. jmauinet December 6, 2009 at 12:11 pm #

    Here is the real problem in USA the so called war on drugs really started when Carter admin decided to stop all pot flow from South America. They put all the military force into play and stopped most all big shipments of Colombian pot. At that time large fishing boats were bringing in major tonnage of pot. That supplied USA. Well they did not know this would backfire into smugglers turning to easy to smuggle cocaine. In large amounts. Before this pot was what kids experimented with but once pot became super expensive due to supply and demand. Cocaine became the new gateway drug due to price economic 101. Then came the war on Cocaine the cracked down on it. Stopped the major flow some what. Then Crack became the new gateway drug (rocks for $5 on every street corner in the USA.
    In the mean time California has major boom in pot growers. And lax laws on growers. So the smart folks at the DEA steps in and cracks down on growers in California and Hawaii pot at this point was as expensive as Gold. And Hawaii has always been the hot bed for ice. So Ice has now become the new gateway drug any kid can now buy with their lunch money but cannot afford to buy pot. So kids take one puff and ruin their life’s with about a 95% instant addition rate. This is all because of the war on drugs. My point is. It all economic whatever is cheapest is the gateway drug and it can be your med cabinet also it free. At least before the war on drugs kids had pot to experiment with and not all moved on to other drugs now it’s just ICE. DEMAND A CHANGE LEGALIZE POT or buy a gun to shot the kids that robs your home to get money for ICE once they are addicted. On the big island thing are changing people are fed up with DEA spending big money to eradicate pot while ICE addiction murder and other crimes stemming from ICE are out of control so the people voted against DEA moneys and have decided pot not so bad after all. USA better wake up our country is being destroyed from within.

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