The oldest language

Linguists debate whether all languages are descended from a common ancestor. This can’t be completely true, since many sign languages have been invented out of whole cloth in modern time (Nicaraguan sign is a famous example), as was, to a meaningful extent, Hawaiian Pidgin.

However, students of history know from the ancient Greek historian Herodotus that Phrygian is the first language. According to his writings, an Egyptian king by the name of Psammetichus ordered that two children “of the ordinary sort” be raised in an isolated cabin without exposure to language. At the age of two or so, the children began to speak Phrygian, which was taken as proof that Phrygian, not Egyptian, is the world’s earliest language.

This study is a great example of why experiments need to be replicated before they are taken too seriously.

2,253 Responses to “The oldest language”

  1. Amanda #

    Nice story you have I did not know I just knew that Latin was an old language. Also the oldest job is prostitution so if you search on the internet Europe live chat you will find girls that speaks a lot of different languages.

    January 26, 2012 at 4:52 am Reply
  2. Novoline Spiele #

    Thx Great Post,I enjoyed the Info.
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    January 25, 2012 at 6:38 am Reply
  3. Drop the royal ‘we’ and get cracking?” What exactly do you mean by that?

    Wouldn’t mind having an explanation that was at least a paragraph long.

    By “we” I meant people in general, not a “royal we”.

    December 22, 2011 at 12:14 am Reply
  4. ways to say i love you #

    the oldest language is from God.

    ways to say i love you

    December 12, 2011 at 3:40 am Reply
  5. vivek #

    thank u very much for ur info

    December 7, 2011 at 10:37 am Reply
  6. Das #

    Tamizh is the ancient language however not the current one its full of wrong words!! There were 4 languages descended from vaikunta loka.. Sanskrit, vraj bhasha, tamizh and i forgot the last one… However shiva is the protector… Bramhan is the creator… Vishnu is the lfe giver… Shiva is an operator as in follows the orders, who gives order its vishnu my friends!!! Bramhan is the creator how is he born…?? Vishnu wants someone to take care of everything so bramha takes birth through the lotus from which is sprouted from vishnus naval… However Ravana was a great devotee of shiva but rama had to kill him… Who is rama none other than vishnu…. So get ur info right… Follow the right path always… Look into how shiva is born and then talk about shiva!!! Ofcouse shiva is a great vaisnava!!!

    December 3, 2011 at 2:37 pm Reply
    • fire #

      First of all, you should understand the fact that sivan is fire and he is still the illusion and no one can ever find out the truth how he came into existance to create all kinds of creatures and humanbeings. When He is still Pirammai (brahmma) how can you say that he was there because of the so called vishnu the protector actually he is not in reality. So many had to loose everything because of him in this world. So, you mean to say that the people came from central asia??? are the creator of this earth and the humanbeings. By the way, who gave you this talent of knitting and stitching stories, am very much surprised. I never knew the fact that you only created the Fire. But we are using gas stoves and electric stoves these days, why did not you make the people stop finding new items like room heater, water heater etc.etc. Dont insult the illusionary God the Fire the everlasting power. Understood!! Without you, we can survive, but without fire we can not. That is the difference. Clouds of illusion still.

      December 4, 2011 at 11:09 pm Reply
    • Avner #

      In the life cycle the energy which gives birth is known as Brahma, the force which makes life possible for survival is Vishnu and then comes the decay & destruction this is known as Mahesha (Shiva). All three forces together makes a complete cycle. The word consists all three, hence we chant it. all are worshiped equally.

      December 14, 2011 at 6:22 am Reply
      • heart #

        If these gods are worshipped equally then there should not be thousands of temples. Why dont they have only one temple to celebrate. By the way, Fire is not only doing the job of destroying it is also the reason to make the foetus survive. Chivan the Piraman is still unexplainable and unexplorable. Its beyond our intellectual power. The three jobs of creating, portecting and destroying are done by the same invisible power, in the ancient period it was found but various names are given later on used by the selfish people for their comfort. When someone is saying that he is PARAM, then it shows his arrogance. There are some good humanbeings with flesh and blood with divine power and they do not call themselves that i am the supreme power.

        December 14, 2011 at 8:46 pm Reply
  7. mitchell #

    According to my googling tamil is the most oldest language in the earth.there r so many facts and proofs in this language

    November 30, 2011 at 7:54 am Reply
    • heart #

      Thanks a lot Ms. M. We are grateful.

      December 2, 2011 at 9:16 pm Reply
  8. Enriko #

    the oldest language is considered to be an old version of Albanian language. The god of Sun, named by Egyptians as “Ra”, can be explained only by old Albanian language, which means “is going down”, which is the fact what sun is doing every day. The star named by astronoms Vega (one of 5 stars which can be seen by eyes in a good weasther) has been the star which about 14000 years ago used to show the North Pole, and this star was named by pellazgs (ilir people and later albanians are their descendants) “neservaki”, which means he is going tomorrow, used in the ancient times for mens when they had to go hunting, if the weather permits (when the star was possible to be seen by free eyes). If you need more information, please go after Albanian language, since between ten oldest words of the world, discovered by linguists, six of them can be explained only and only by old Albanian language.

    November 22, 2011 at 1:10 pm Reply
    • curious #

      I am very much interested about the details given by you. Especially about “Ra”, “vega” and “Nesarvaki”. About “RA” We have some mythological characters named “RAVANAN” and “RAMAN”. The meaning of “RA” is i guess “darkness” or “black Colour”, because we say in tamizh for night “IRAVU” or “RAATHIRI”. “RAAKUL” means the community with black skinned people. “the full form is “RAAKULAM” in tamizh. Keep this “Vega” away. About “NESARVAKI” we have similar name of Goddess “ISAKI” Amman, She is the wife of Eesan (Chivan). About Hunting, King Raaman was a kshatriyan, with bow and arrow. All of this would lead us to some kind of connection. Let me think. I dont have time to go to the library.

      November 22, 2011 at 8:03 pm Reply
    • curious #

      If the sun is “going down”, then it would mean “darkness” that proves the fact that “Ra” means black.

      November 22, 2011 at 8:06 pm Reply
    • curious #

      About Albanian Names, the female name “Marigona” means a historical figure, she may our “Mari” our water Goddess, Kaltrina this name means “light blue” or “blue girl” may be she is representing the colour of water, in tamizh also “Kaateri” (Amman) means the jungle lake, there is relation between these names, And “Skender” in Albania is again a name which means defender of mankind. We in tamizh call “kumaran” as “kanthan” but it is prounounced by the sanskritist as “skanda”. …”Aran” means the “protector” in tamizh, “ku”maran” means the protector of water, or the defender of “kuma” (water mother). Kumaran, Kanthan, Murugan and so many other names are given to the bird cock in tamizh. I find here, the tamizh names of Gods are used in Albania.

      Ravi in tamizh means the Sun, so the connection of “RA” and “RAVI” is understandable.The God of Sun, named by Egyptians as “RA” is already in ancient tamizh period. I am feeling so hungry..Please allow me.

      November 22, 2011 at 9:15 pm Reply
      • explorer #

        Kanthar Sasti Kavacham is a song praising the Lord Murukan in tamiznadu. The aryan’s prounounciation is Skanda Shashti Kavacham.. Leave it…There should be a small correction this Sasti was actually “Chatti Thee” in the ancient period. The meaning the “clay pot with fire”. What was in the pot i am clueless but it was used or carried by the devotees to worship Lord Kanthar (murukan) and it was regarded as a shield or armour that is kavacham in tamizh. The entire meaning has been changed after the aryan’s invasion. There was only Sivan, Murukan and Meenamma and vinayakan or kanesan(ganesha) was not so popular though the elephant was the creator of the letter “o” (OM) in tamizh. The hidden meaning was we should stand still like a elephant and medidate chanting “om”. No distraction :) No evil thoughts.

        November 30, 2011 at 10:09 pm Reply
        • heart #

          Kanthar (murukan) was called by aryans as Skantar and we also call this Lord Kanthar as Azhagu (Alagu) Kanthar means Beautiful Kanthar and i am sure this name was the inspiration to creat the name Alexander. Points to be noted for research :)

          December 3, 2011 at 12:40 am Reply
    • laughter #

      Vadakku in tamizh means the north (side) and “vada meen” is north star in tamizh. I only write about the star not about any spicy snack item, understood, because i have written vada, a deep fried south indian snack and the name of fish there ie, meen…. Here, Meen is star, the ancient symbol, what made them draw no one knows, may be literary …flying or moving fishes of sky the stars…beautiful thoughts..very very imaginative. ok..now come to the point.

      “VADA” meen and Albanian VEGA both are star only, one of 5 stars that can be seen in good weather. It seems they were in those days good people with good thoughts thats what made them to see those stars clearly. No evil thoughts. If Vada, the tamizh name for northern side is prounounced as vega in albanian language to call this northern star..if it is true then there is a strong relationship between tamizhan culture and albanian culture, may be the sanskritists made it possible while wandering around spreading our culture.

      We do not see such stars clearly today but only with telescope. Think about it deeply. We people have changed a lot. We are cunning. :) We are poinsonous. :)

      I will think about neservaki when i have time.

      November 28, 2011 at 9:18 pm Reply
      • deep thoughts #

        VATAKKU (tamizh), later on VADAGGU (aryan’s pronounciation) and VEGA (albanian’s).

        November 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm Reply
    • fire #

      Neser is Eechan, actually He is known as a hunter with trident in his hand, check it out!. The meaning of Trident is already explained. Now, in tamizh culture, there are so many gods and godesses named ISAKI, DEVAKI, VAITAKI(vaidehi),NAYAKI etc, these deiteis are known to hunt the evil doers as per stories. So, NESERVAKI this name if it is connected with hunting then it means Sivan the hunter was famous in those region of Albania in those days. I also thought so childishly before i came into this blog, that Sivan was a hunter. :) People can create anything they have really the talent. The brain matters.

      December 4, 2011 at 11:17 pm Reply
      • truth #

        NESAR is why Eechan (Eesa) because he is the subject of the Tamil Poet Maanika Vaasakar praising him in his Thiruvaachakam.

        The verse here given below for kind perusal.

        Thecha nechar soozhnthurukkun
        Thiruvalamkanch chevikka
        Eesa ponnambalathaadum
        Enthaai Inithaan Irankaaye.
        ————————————
        The meaning

        The Lord Nechar (Eechan, SUN) who lives here in pleasnt surroundings with brightness in the city Thiruvalam, I am here to worship him, Eechan, the one who is dancing in the golden sky, please show on me mercy.

        So, NECHAR is EECHAN, the SUN, the creator responsible for the 5 elements.

        Please, do not follow the story attached with this city Thiruvalam near Vellore City. Thiruvalam is nothing but the Holy Banyan Tree. Thiru means Holy and Aalam is Banyan tree in tamizh. Both Sun and Banyan Tree were worshipped as Chivan in the ancient period later on changed.

        January 24, 2012 at 6:01 am Reply
        • Ball of Fire #

          SO, the name sun has been formed from the name Eesan. Sun, the star which gives light and heat during the day and around which the earth moves.. this heavenly body that is made up of BURNING GAS. Do not explode to make further planets. Enough!!!! Just Be cool…Just tell us the secret who created u. I hope u get the point.

          January 25, 2012 at 10:16 pm Reply
        • truth #

          if Thiruvalam is the circum ambulation, (valam means rotation in tamizh) then it is really, the sunrise and the sunset not the rotation of vinayaka(elephant) around his parent. According to the story, muruka was travelling all over the world to get celestial mango from his parent but it is actually the rotation of sun. Only the movement of Sun really matters. The story attached with Thiruvalam is a complete fabrication to fool the people. The hardwork of sun is important for us not murukan (rooster). The rooster cant be blamed but only murukan, the artifical god. Only science.

          January 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm Reply
    • Avner #

      Ra in Tamil or albanian is similar to raatri in sanskrit. Sanskrit & tamil are pretty similar.

      December 14, 2011 at 6:28 am Reply
      • heart #

        it is not “raatri”.. it is “iraathiri” (the first letter is vowel) “thiri” means wick “iraathiri” means the darkness that comes like twisted wick. So, the original tamizh word is “iraathiri” but spelt as “raathri” in sanskrit. There are some other words to connect

        Irul…darkness
        iruttu..darkness
        irakkathan…devil but in sanskrit by adding the sound sh “raakshash”
        Irular……the people who catch snakes. (irula tribal community)

        There are more words like irathina kal(a kind of stone), irathham (blood).

        As far as tamizh letters and words are concerned we do not have today the ancient records, Do not want to explain.

        December 14, 2011 at 8:36 pm Reply
    • Stop Ignorance #

      Yes, that’s totaly true…

      December 15, 2011 at 4:32 am Reply
  9. Zesante tavsiye edilir…

    November 22, 2011 at 2:32 am Reply
  10. Thamizh #

    Thamizh is the first language in the world.

    November 19, 2011 at 11:32 am Reply
    • Avner #

      Tamil is highly refined language so it can’t be first language of world. Most of the ancient languages are pretty crude by nature.

      December 14, 2011 at 6:30 am Reply
  11. Chelvan #

    To all those Tamizh lovers……..Do not be swayed away by the Untrue just because of your love to the language. Before you comment such unjustified and unacademic statements, make sure what you want to tell……Just because you all came across news about findings of Tamizh literatute to be old doesnt prove that the language can be moved back to imaginative times. ……Before commenting look into what the oldest Tamizh literature speaks. Directly and indirectly all these literatures, edicts and information provides innumerable facts about the existence of Sanskrit and its works.

    So think before you ink. If you think I am lying, go back to the libraries and go through the content well.
    Well why libraries, Read our Thirukkural well, you will know the truth…….who else can tell us better than the one who told us the moral code.

    Thank you

    November 19, 2011 at 10:27 am Reply
    • Kishore #

      Tamizh, I guess, you must go and revisit the history pages again. Why do you behave like a guy in the well……come out and see how vast the world is……

      I certainly agree with Chelvan…..
      I dont deny that Tamizh is an old language, but I clearly deny the false facts such as Tamizh is the first language, Tamizh is the oldest language.

      Dont let other academics to tarnish the fame of tamizh just because of such comments.
      Everyone has the freedom to share their thought and comment.but the comments must be justifiable.
      God save our Tamizh Mozhi and its beauty from being tarnished by such untrue facts. Tamizh’s purity comes by its true language and not with such false facts.

      God save TAMIZH MOZHI……..because of so many unacademic comments, I often find people critizing Tamizh. Let the truth triumph against all untruth.

      November 20, 2011 at 12:43 am Reply
      • unmai #

        He never went into the well on his own. He was pushed inside forcibly. Let him talk. You are cruel. Tamizh is truly honest. We know the world is vast. So, some comments justifiable for you. When you talk in hindi..you often say Accha and Acchi to accept or appreciate a thing. For example

        “Acchi baath hai”…good matter it is.. What about “acchi”..the inspiration is our “Acchi” our mother in tamizh.

        “Accha lagtha hai”… it is fine..what about “accha” it is our Acchan in tamizh.

        “Aayi hai”………she has come(feminine) what about “Aayi” she is our mother Aayi (maariyayi)

        “Aaya hai”….He has come (masculine) “Aaya” is no one but our “Ayya” or “Ayyan” (our father).

        You have these both father and mother everywhere.

        Paraman is Chivan (sivan) Parapatham or Paramapatham means the feet of that omnipotent power. If you shorten it and say parbat (mountain) then do you think it is fair to say that you have created it.

        Parama aatuman…the God without aathi(beginning) and antham(end) Aataman in tamizh and if you say Parmaatma..you have the habit of shortening everything. There are so many words.

        November 21, 2011 at 6:45 am Reply
      • naughtynuts #

        keep pronouncing “Selvan” as “Chelvan” always, thats the correct way..ok, we dont have “s” in tamizh dictionary but only “c”. Thats like a good boy. Dont ever argue. But, you ask me the question, without argument, i mean without churning the ocean there wont be butter, without melting the butter there wont be butter oil. I know but come here with real facts they should be justifiable to make people the hot blooded :) God would never save our language tamizh..u get that…We are now Gods, we are writing the destiny of tamizh. We are now playing the role of Chitraguptan, the assistant of Yaman (yama) Lord of Death. Tamizh should survive. Its written. :)

        November 22, 2011 at 2:51 am Reply
      • heart #

        I appreciate your love for your mother tongue tamizh :) Caring attitude indeed :)

        December 2, 2011 at 8:06 pm Reply
    • naughtynuts #

      what moral code you are talking about …they did not care about it…sanskritists wrote “kama sutra”..you are humiliating the 5 elements and its undeniable power and the art of curing people, the Sittha (siddha) maruthuvam., the first ever, the ancient medical practice. whatever, i would go to the library to see who was the, PRAMMAN ( brahma )(the creator) and who was the Sivan (the destroyer). In my point of view, Sivan is pramman the creator as well as the destroyer, the TRINITY, the three laws or justice that would make me again to back to the ancient period and explore further. No need to go to the library. Tamizh is the creator of words, you dont accept. I am very much serious now. I dont have time now. After the invasion, our mother tamizh was murdered brutally. They snatched all of her ornaments forcibly.

      November 22, 2011 at 3:02 am Reply
    • crackednuts #

      Sage Thiruvalluvar was elder brother..he wrote Thirukkural 2000 years back, at that time he was very well experienced to write those couplets explaining about so many things. He had to struggle to expose those details to this world. There were enemies, they did not allow him to write his thoughts, he suffered a lot. You should understand now the situation. Before 2000 years, they built kallanai, it was not that much easy, there was a need for technical mind, preparation, planning and well equipped people with keen interest and determination. You can not make or brake anything so easily, life is about struggle. Do not blame our tamizh, She is the oldest, still surviving..later on younger brother entered with evil mind, he was against his elder brother, because the blood was different..i guess you get my point. :)

      November 24, 2011 at 12:39 am Reply
      • heart #

        I respect Mr.Suki Sivam a lot, he is different, exactly like Subramaniya Bharathiyar…he is kind of ethiest, i appreciate his thoughts and courage in this cunning world, He is rare. Today, i heard him talk about Bhodhi Dharman and his careless attitude to express his ideas. He asks, have you ever seen God? Where is He? Have you spent your time with him? Questions to be answered. To me, Conscience and Heart both are important. Thanks a lot Suki Sivam Sir.

        November 26, 2011 at 11:28 pm Reply
        • heart #

          All are asking questions they are chasing Suki Sivam and Suki Sivam Sir says, ESCAPE :) i want to survive.

          December 2, 2011 at 8:09 pm Reply
          • hearty #

            CHIVAM IS LOVE. ANBE CHIVAM. Dont be an ethiest. God has no form.

            December 12, 2011 at 8:53 pm
          • truth #

            Aalayam and Kovil both are truly tamizh names for temple.

            January 29, 2012 at 9:35 pm
      • tamil #

        hey i understood your comment……do you mean that the younger brother is sanskrit……………………….?if so, you are absolutely right

        December 30, 2011 at 10:03 pm Reply
    • laughter #

      We talk abt only language not letters. :)

      November 28, 2011 at 8:47 pm Reply
  12. Sam #

    No doubt Tamil is the oldest living language that has the most evidence. Tamil language texts can be dated back to 5500 years, whereas indo-european languages like sanscript can only be dated back to 2000 years. And, even that, there is no clear evidence.

    November 18, 2011 at 9:20 pm Reply
    • heart #

      After the invasion, there were natural calamities, tremor, hurricane, flood…you see thats why there were no evidence, do u know one fact..when u try to spoil the nature, she would be angry, thats what happend, its very very difficult to explain. Be good always :)
      our mother tamizh, the poor soul.

      December 2, 2011 at 8:14 pm Reply
  13. what language?

    November 17, 2011 at 5:56 am Reply
  14. its good products….

    November 17, 2011 at 5:55 am Reply
    • mother #

      caring attitude :)

      November 27, 2011 at 9:13 pm Reply
  15. its better than other.. thanks…

    November 17, 2011 at 5:53 am Reply
  16. truth #

    Mark Twain quotes (American Humorist, Writer and Lecturer. 1835-1910)
    ==========================================================

    India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. Our most valuable and most astrictive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only!”

    November 16, 2011 at 8:04 pm Reply
    • heart #

      But, india is not developing WHY? the BIG question unexplored still. :) I am now very much serious about it… Where is the money going? Be Frank. We are in need of a new political party full of young blood with good hearts with revolutionary ideas to reform the society. All of you young guys go towards the parliament and capture the seats. Enough is enough. We want progress. :) All of you the old ones go for voluntary retirement and take rest. Old is not gold. :)

      December 2, 2011 at 8:22 pm Reply
      • hearty #

        white hair means WISDOM :) full of experience. They are not nagging elders :) Because of the matter of money we are frustrated. Anna is old too but he is BOLD :)

        December 12, 2011 at 8:46 pm Reply
  17. D. Raj kumar #

    Tamil is the oldest Language in the world. Beacause the oldest Authors like Thiruvallur, kambar, kabilar, ottakkuthar are wrote their poems in TAMIL. Besides The temples in TamilNadu Shows the age of the Tamil. For Example PERUR PATTESHWARA TEMPLE IN COIMBATORE is constructed before 2000 years ago. In that temple there were various types of information about the Tamil and the kings of Tamilnadu. Not only in that Temple Various Temples Like Tanjore Brahadeeshwara temple, kanchipuram Kamatchiamman temple, Madurai Meenakshiamman temples, SriRangam Ranganathar temple in Trichy shows the details and the speciality of TAMIL LANGUAGE. And the Researches saying that the Tamil is speaking before 20,000 years ago. So I trust Tamil is the oldest language in the world

    November 12, 2011 at 8:37 am Reply
  18. Sathish Backstreetboy #

    Tamil is the oldest language in the world.Some saying that tamil is spoken for more than 30,000 years ago:-)..

    November 4, 2011 at 5:05 am Reply
    • meehs100 #

      INDEED ITS TRUE…TAMIL IS THE OLDEST LANGUAGE TO INHERIT THE EARTH. IT EMERGED WHEN THE DEMONS AND THE GODS CHURNED THE OCEAN SO CALLED [ paar kaddal in tamil ] WITH THE HELP OF SNAKE ACTING AS A ROPE. THE DEMONS AND THE GODS CHURNED THE OCEAN TO GET MANY VALUABLE THINGS. TAMIL SCRIPT WRITTEN BY THE LORD SHIVA HIMSELF WAS ONE AMONG THEM. THIS IS A TRUE STORY HAPPENED LAKHS OF YEARS BEFORE WHEN THERE WAS NO HUMAN REIGN BUT HAD DEMONS AND GODS.

      November 10, 2011 at 9:12 am Reply
      • truth #

        yes you are right. Lord Sivan (shiva) is nothing but FIRE. You know what…this fire or heat is the main force or source that makes a person or stimulate the brains to do something. It makes all the people active. The coldness or the winter would make the people so lazy, they would be slumbering but would wake up and be active once the sun would be there. Do u get my point? I dont want how butter was made, why dont they churn the ocean now to get valuable things? forget about the past, come to the present world, everything has been changed. have you ever heard how cows are with the sound “moooo” this is where the word “amma” introduced. One another interprettation, soon after the earth was created or whatever, there was not any loud noice but only a silent sound heard slightly “om”..exactly like have you ever heard the bees humming around the beehive…to make a continuous low sound. And to tell you the truth why “tamizh” is considered the oldest one, the letter “om” written in tamizh and the inspiration is the elephant you start drawing now…ok…from its right ear, go upwards around and then the left ear make a curve and come down alongwith the trunk the tip twisted right side (the elephant is standing before you or keep a picture of it)…draw it now you get the exact shape of “om” the letter in tamizh. NOW, can you ever match this or connect this with the hindi letter “om”. This proves the incredible fact that tamizhans only found or responsible for the letter “om” that leads us all to the meditation art “YOKAM” (yoga) all the sages uttering “om” closing eyes. If you ever without consulting the facts with tamizhans then it would mean that you are also a cheater.

        November 16, 2011 at 11:06 pm Reply
      • naughty #

        Why snake was acting as a rope? it is cruel. Its against law. Animal Protection Force should take action. Yes, in those days, it was not there. But, why the snake was silent? why it was asking them the question, i am your God, Snake God, you should worship me..you people are torturing me like this. The demons replied, Who cares, lets do it…we are in need of valuable things. If it ever ask you question, shoot it down. Catch some more silent snakes, Anaconda would be so silent, go to the rain forest at once..Amazon Forest. Jennifer Lopez is saying, Nooooooo. am scared. :)

        November 22, 2011 at 2:42 am Reply
        • naughtynuts #

          snake was not asking them the question, it was in a mood of shock.

          November 22, 2011 at 2:44 am Reply
      • hearty #

        who were demons and who were gods? :) now almost everything changed because of inter-caste marriage. :)

        December 12, 2011 at 8:49 pm Reply
    • shankara #

      dont be funny……….who is that some

      November 18, 2011 at 2:59 am Reply
      • naughty #

        excavation

        November 22, 2011 at 2:33 am Reply
    • saravanan #

      also, as per the bible, seth is adam’s son i think.. thats why we have sethusamudram plan, so many ancient kings r named as seth.. also carbon dating dates ramar paalam lakhs yrs back… wen ancient ppl believed earth is above a row of tortoises, the thamizh word for world is gnaalam which means something suspending freely(gnaaluthal). Also wen ppl thought earth s flat, we said is andam, whose other meaning is sphere.

      January 1, 2012 at 1:44 am Reply
      • truth #

        Chathuppu nilam in tamizh is soft land that is partly covered with water.(swamp or marsh land). Saravanan (murukan) poikai is the holy or the sacred pond or pool. Water again one of five elements. Cheru in tamizh means mud. So, Sethu Samudram (chethu samudram) would mean the the power and the union of water. Sethu here is water.

        January 29, 2012 at 9:32 pm Reply
  19. Neeraj Lohani #

    I believe that, when it comes to history, those who appear 100% confident of their belief are almost always 100% wrong. Every religion of the world claims that our earth has been wiped clean of human liife in apocalypses except few survivors and if that is really the case what is the point in locating the first civilisation and oldest language when clearly the proof can not exist. In my strong belief any historical exercise done for finding the “oldest” of anything will always be incomplete and will have a lot more impossible to find stuff. Some people honestly claim based on what appears as a proof to them (though inconclusive) and others just do so out of the preconceived/preprogrammed thought that their culture is the oldest inhabitant on this planet. In line with the above I will choose not to mention here my personal beliefe about the oldest language as I could be wrong like anyone else.

    October 26, 2011 at 2:02 am Reply
    • truth #

      No one is forcing you to go to the ancient period. It was our duty..we did it. Thats enough. All the languages are beautiful only. But, what about the first ever person who introduced or written letters. You forget about him. Thats not fair. You forgot about “mother” and “father”…maata (maariyaata) mother, and pita (pitthar) father. Ma is our own Kanya “kuma”ri, the water, the cradle of civilisation, Pa is our pitthan our Appa, our father ie the Fire. If you ever come back to this blog, just try to keep all the details. Without these two main elements can you imagine anything possible? If you do not accept, then KANYAKUMARI wont forgive you. Got it!!!! By the way, our mother is water and our father is heat..i talk about only the nature, not our own mothers and fathers. They can play different roles in real life. :)

      November 16, 2011 at 11:16 pm Reply
      • naughty #

        mother can be fire and father can be water so cool…its about their nature, we can’t blame them both..its about the situation they are in. They are portraying their roles before you they are REALISTIC, they dont go to Film Institute in Pune to get training how to act :) from that also you can confirm the fact tht their body is made of 5 elements. :) i hope you get that.

        November 22, 2011 at 2:16 am Reply
  20. I agree with the history coming from ancient Greek that Phrygian is the first formed those times because it was the first civilization.

    October 5, 2011 at 10:42 pm Reply
    • sunny #

      I am pretty sure that the first civilizations begun in Asia and apart from drawings, the first language written and spoken came from Sanskrit….But i’m no historian

      October 17, 2011 at 2:09 pm Reply
      • hearty #

        be what you are ..leave the matter to us..dont be a historian :) no more confusion.

        December 12, 2011 at 8:50 pm Reply
    • truth #

      its not about civilisation, this blog is about oldest language..what are the letters uttered came out from the mouth. I have not studied so far the culture of Greek or Phrygian..let me study i would one day come with similarities..understood. I dont have details now. You can escape for now. I want the words ..man. Let me explore. If everything is different i wont be adamant. Keep it in mind.

      November 16, 2011 at 11:26 pm Reply
    • naughty #

      is it orange county or orange candy? I am very much sure about the mould. Would you teach me how to make orange flavoured cake?

      November 22, 2011 at 2:19 am Reply
    • be good #

      don comment without proof..sanskrit is said 2 b the first language…and the first civlaisatio s harappan(indus valley,india)….n phrygian s 10 th oldest language

      December 23, 2011 at 12:54 pm Reply
      • tamil #

        hey saravanan, you are right….there are many examples of this sort which prove that tamil is the oldest language ………and many people have commented that sanskrit is the oldest language…………….that is absolutely stupid……..b coz thirukkural was written 2000 years before …..it is such a marvellous literature and tamil was developed that much before 2000 years……….so its origin must be dated to the earliest.sanskrit was the language of the aryans and history says that they invaded india 2000 years ago and sanskrit originated only after that …………..there is no literary proof to show that sanskrit is the oldest…………its a stupid language ……….

        January 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm Reply
  21. The first language arise from the very first city of Egypt – the first civilization.

    September 27, 2011 at 11:11 pm Reply
    • anonymous #

      that is so true becouse every single bible in the world may it be jewish christian islamic or whatever was originally in arabic but have all been translated to make sense to the peopel who practisced the religion and so have lost some of its meaning and have been rewritten alot of times and lost more of its meaning and so on.. but the oldest language ever to be spoken is arabic, it is the language in which all others came from. it has so many words that it is uncountable and have been the most acknowleged language, and is still known and spoken today since it was so ancient

      November 11, 2011 at 9:12 pm Reply
      • truth #

        “Aram”…..”ARA”M represents VIRTUE.

        “Porul”…..PORUL defines the principles of LIFE for common people as well as the
        …..State.

        Inbam……INBAM deals with aspects of LOVE.

        The above three main points in tamizh literature “Thirukkural” clearly telling us the good morals we should follow in life. If you say “arabic” is the oldest one, then all are written in this three above given Adhikaarams (couplets) in a simple way but in ancient tamizh. ARAam, Porul, Iinbam in KURAL and you say ARABIC. I want to know the words for parents, Ammi and Abba…we say in tamizh Ammai, Ammaayi, Ammani (woman), k”uma, Amma etc. and Appa, Appan, Ayyan etc. Truth is Truth forever.

        November 17, 2011 at 12:05 am Reply
      • naughty #

        It seems there were difference of opinions, so the matter was again and again discussed, how many people lost their lives? What was the need for religion? We are all humanbeings with a little fleshy part inside called heart. We should follow it. Leave everything to the ultimate power that is destiny. Why they had been wasting their time? Almighty never wanted that it was our decision. I am thinking deeply..so let me sit and think about that “dot” which operates everything. It seems we never had will power thats why there was a need for holy books thats the way we can make ourselves sit quietly and shut our mouth. no quarrel, no commotion, no questions…continue reading. :)

        November 22, 2011 at 2:28 am Reply
    • truth #

      Our tamizhan father is EECHAN (prounounced as Eesan) Eeshwar in sanskrit or in hindi. You say the name “Egypt”, who found the first letter “E”?….All He is…Eesane Ellaam….that means “All is Fire” How can anyone say the exact date and time of the beginning of this Fire? Yes, scientist can give all kinds of explanations, there was huge fire ball later on it broke into pieces one of the pieces is our planet earth etc..etc…BUT, who or what had created that “fire”?…Because of this fire, there is water, steam, evaporation, clouds, rain later on the evolution. My dear, Isuve Ellaam, you worship him in a different way, you dont have form. Eeesane Ellaam, we say in tamizh “Aathamili” means “endless”…He is endless….Aathi Antham illaathavan. He does not have the beginning as well as the end. He is our Acchan (Eechan), Appan our Father.

      November 16, 2011 at 11:41 pm Reply
  22. my heart #

    May the Almighty bless all the hearts full of pain of this earth. All the people should have “brightness” in their life. I wish them all good luck.

    We are born to be crucified only to reach the abode of God. Be tolerant always.

    TEARS.

    Bye bye all of you….be cheerful always!!!!!!!

    September 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm Reply
    • fire #

      i was numb and dumb for some days, that does not mean that i would be the same. Its about time and destiny.

      December 4, 2011 at 11:19 pm Reply

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